Homeowner shoots dead two teens allegedly trespassing on his property in Ohio, black of course

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Homeowner shoots dead two teens allegedly trespassing on his property in Ohio
The shooter was taken into custody by Dayton police for questioning about the deaths of the two 17-year-olds, but was not immediately charged with a crime.

Two 17-year-olds were fatally shot by a man in Dayton, Ohio, on Wednesday after they allegedly trespassed on his property, authorities said.

The man called 911 at about 9:30 p.m. to report that he had shot two people who were in or near his garage, according to the Dayton Police Department. The unidentified resident of the home said he saw a light from that area of the property and encountered three people inside his car in the garage.


He then fired a .38 caliber revolver, which killed two of the three people. The Montgomery County Coroner's Office identified them as teenagers Devin Henderson and Javier Harrison.

The third person in the car was arrested on a breaking and entering charge.

The man who shot the teens was taken into custody for questioning, and then released. He was not immediately charged with any crime.

Police said Thursday that they were consulting with prosecutors, as recent changes to Ohio law places the burden of proof for cases of self-defense on the state.

“It will take time for us to comb through the evidence and statements in order to determine if what transpired was a criminal act or an act of self-defense," Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl said. "We ask for patience on behalf of the public as our detectives do their due diligence in investigating this case.”

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"I need police, I shot two guys ... trying to do something in the house," the man told a 911 dispatcher, according to audio recording released on Thursday afternoon by the Montgomery County Sheriff's Department.

“They’re on the floor in the garage.”

The man and dispatcher appeared to struggle with a language barrier. The dispatcher asked twice if the two people shot were dead, and the man did not answer.

At the end of the 4 1/2-minute-long recording, the sound of police sirens could be heard in the background. The final second of the recording appeared to be of the man meeting police at the door, with him saying, "Here's the gun."

The scene of Wednesday night's shooting is about 2½ miles from Dayton's downtown entertainment district where a 24-year-old gunman killed nine people, including his sister, on Aug. 4.

And Monday, two 6-year-old girls were killed when a man suspected in a stabbing and driving a stolen police cruiser crashed into two vehicles near a library in Dayton, officials said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...egedly-trespassing-his-property-ohio-n1047686

EDIT: You shouldn't judge a book by it's cover buuuuut ….. these two ….. in my garage ??? Would've gotten peppered with bullets ……

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[theart0f69]

I read this yesterday and I guess I'm not understanding...at least I hope I'm not understanding it correctly. So, lemme get this straight...A homeowner was at his home and saw a light on in or around his garage. He went to investigate, and upon arriving sees 3 teens in his vehicle. He then fired into the vehicle thus killing 2 of the 3 teens. He was briefly taken into custody but then released and no charges were filed because the police are trying to determine if he fired in self defense or did he break the law? According to this article, he was not in any immediate danger, nor did he see any weapons on the teens...correct? Ok, so if someone is on my property, I can shoot to kill with reckless abandon simply because they are trespassing on my property or attempting to steal my property? Do I understand this correctly? If so...its gonna be a long winter here in Cleveland! A long Cold Winter!

 

[EPDC]

Someone breaks into my garage, I’m shooting too. Especially if I don’t see whether they are armed or not. Entering someone’s property is a deadly game.

 

[lightbright]

I read this yesterday and I guess I'm not understanding...at least I hope I'm not understanding it correctly. So, lemme get this straight...A homeowner was at his home and saw a light on in or around his garage. He went to investigate, and upon arriving sees 3 teens in his vehicle. He then fired into the vehicle thus killing 2 of the 3 teens. He was briefly taken into custody but then released and no charges were filed because the police are trying to determine if he fired in self defense or did he break the law? According to this article, he was not in any immediate danger, nor did he see any weapons on the teens...correct? Ok, so if someone is on my property, I can shoot to kill with reckless abandon simply because they are trespassing on my property or attempting to steal my property? Do I understand this correctly? If so...its gonna be a long winter here in Cleveland! A long Cold Winter!

The whole shit sounds screwy to me …. was he a cac ???


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[aldoogie]

I read this yesterday and I guess I'm not understanding...at least I hope I'm not understanding it correctly. So, lemme get this straight...A homeowner was at his home and saw a light on in or around his garage. He went to investigate, and upon arriving sees 3 teens in his vehicle. He then fired into the vehicle thus killing 2 of the 3 teens. He was briefly taken into custody but then released and no charges were filed because the police are trying to determine if he fired in self defense or did he break the law? According to this article, he was not in any immediate danger, nor did he see any weapons on the teens...correct? Ok, so if someone is on my property, I can shoot to kill with reckless abandon simply because they are trespassing on my property or attempting to steal my property? Do I understand this correctly? If so...its gonna be a long winter here in Cleveland! A long Cold Winter!

Look up that Castle Law my dude. I think it may apply there.

 

[theart0f69]

The whole shit sounds screwy to me …. was he a cac ???


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I'm willing to bet he was and they weren't.

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

Shit I would've shot them too if the story is accurate

 

[DirtyCake]

Damn Chappelle just talked about this shit in Ohio

 

[Shaka54]

I read this yesterday and I guess I'm not understanding...at least I hope I'm not understanding it correctly. So, lemme get this straight...A homeowner was at his home and saw a light on in or around his garage. He went to investigate, and upon arriving sees 3 teens in his vehicle. He then fired into the vehicle thus killing 2 of the 3 teens. He was briefly taken into custody but then released and no charges were filed because the police are trying to determine if he fired in self defense or did he break the law? According to this article, he was not in any immediate danger, nor did he see any weapons on the teens...correct? Ok, so if someone is on my property, I can shoot to kill with reckless abandon simply because they are trespassing on my property or attempting to steal my property? Do I understand this correctly? If so...its gonna be a long winter here in Cleveland! A long Cold Winter!

They are on the interior of his home, or property if the garage is detached. In WI, if you shoot 'em while they're climbing through the window and fall outside, you best go throw that body inside the house.
At least that's the way it was before Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws existed.

This may well be found to be legitimate and justified. I'll wait for more definitive details before judging.

 

[Africanama]

I understand if they were knocking on a door or on the sidewalk but all bets are off once you enter someone’s house (yes, the garage is part of the house).

 

[michigantoga]

I read this yesterday and I guess I'm not understanding...at least I hope I'm not understanding it correctly. So, lemme get this straight...A homeowner was at his home and saw a light on in or around his garage. He went to investigate, and upon arriving sees 3 teens in his vehicle. He then fired into the vehicle thus killing 2 of the 3 teens. He was briefly taken into custody but then released and no charges were filed because the police are trying to determine if he fired in self defense or did he break the law? According to this article, he was not in any immediate danger, nor did he see any weapons on the teens...correct? Ok, so if someone is on my property, I can shoot to kill with reckless abandon simply because they are trespassing on my property or attempting to steal my property? Do I understand this correctly? If so...its gonna be a long winter here in Cleveland! A long Cold Winter!

If you're white, then yes if victims are black...

I hope this helps

 

[Deezz]

I am 100% OK with this shooting by the homeowner. Is he supposed to wait until one of the kids jumps out on him w/ a gun?! Plus he was outnumbered. He didn't know if all three had firearms.

Just a fatal decision made my those kids.

Not all homeowners would have shot them, I'm OK w/ that too, but for the one's that do, I'm cool w/ that as well.

 

[cincitystudios]

Article said they were in his car... I see no problem with the shooting if that is the case

 

[Flawless]

If you break in my house I'm shooting first and ask questions later

 

[peterlongshort]

The kids were doing too much. All in the garage, AND in the car. Crime is a dangerous game.

What’s with the ‘allegedly’ trespassing though? Did they live there or no?

 

[LegendOfLedo]

Look up that Castle Law my dude. I think it may apply or there.

Didnt think we have that law in ohio.

 

[LegendOfLedo]

Didnt think we have that law in ohio.

I stand corrected. We do have castle law here in ohio.

 

[Deezz]

This makes it pretty clear that the homeowner will not be charged.

In Ohio, there's a legal presumption that a person acts in self-defense when he or she uses force against anyone who unlawfully enters his or her residence or vehicle. Additionally, Ohio adheres to the castle doctrine, meaning that you don't have a duty to retreat before using force in your residence or vehicle.

 

[TENT]

Yup. Leave peoples shit alone.

I read this yesterday and I guess I'm not understanding...at least I hope I'm not understanding it correctly. So, lemme get this straight...A homeowner was at his home and saw a light on in or around his garage. He went to investigate, and upon arriving sees 3 teens in his vehicle. He then fired into the vehicle thus killing 2 of the 3 teens. He was briefly taken into custody but then released and no charges were filed because the police are trying to determine if he fired in self defense or did he break the law? According to this article, he was not in any immediate danger, nor did he see any weapons on the teens...correct? Ok, so if someone is on my property, I can shoot to kill with reckless abandon simply because they are trespassing on my property or attempting to steal my property? Do I understand this correctly? If so...its gonna be a long winter here in Cleveland! A long Cold Winter!

 

[BrownTurd]

Shit I would've shot them too if the story is accurate

Yeah I can’t defend this. I would have shot also

 

[BrownTurd]

They are on the interior of his home, or property if the garage is detached. In WI, if you shoot 'em while they're climbing through the window and fall outside, you best go throw that body inside the house.
At least that's the way it was before Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws existed.

This may well be found to be legitimate and justified. I'll wait for more definitive details before judging.

That is not true. Once you attempt to break in a house the person can use deadly force to protect themselves. As soon as you break the window or door it is fair game. If you are actively trying to enter such as breaking down the door they can shoot through the door

 

[34real]

I get it,I understand but I just look at things differently now that I have a kid and see how one simple stupid mistake can lead to something like this.
You know how many times I was on or near someone's property that I didn't know,taking short cuts,retrieving a ball or just doing something I wasn't suppose to do like climbing onto their garage roof or even inside,I was lucky I guess but even now that I have my own place I'm more understanding and I don't ever want to mistakenly kill anyone especially my own child;youtube pranks and all the shit like that going on...

You can replace most materialist items but can you replace a life or in some cases your own....it's just one of those things.

 

[Star]

Simple Mistake

1- Goto someone else's Home
2- Enter someone else's Garage , ( why ? )
3 - Enter someone else's Car , inside the Garage ( why ? )
4 - That looks like a Triple inside someone else's property

Fine people do this everyday, when they get lost ( sarcasm )

 

[Shaka54]

That is not true. Once you attempt to break in a house the person can use deadly force to protect themselves. As soon as you break the window or door it is fair game. If you are actively trying to enter such as breaking down the door they can shoot through the door

They are on the interior of his home, or property if the garage is detached. In WI, if you shoot 'em while they're climbing through the window and fall outside, you best go throw that body inside the house.
At least that's the way it was before Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws existed.

This may well be found to be legitimate and justified. I'll wait for more definitive details before judging.

 

[SmoothD]

This wouldn't be news in Texas.

 

[lightbright]

Simple Mistake
1- Goto someone else's Home
2- Enter someone else's Garage , ( why ? )
3 - Enter someone else's Car , inside the Garage ( why ? )
4 - That looks like a Triple inside someone else's property
Fine people do this everyday, when they get lost ( sarcasm )

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[theart0f69]

This wouldn't be news in Texas.

Or Florida.

 

[Cross]

I dont trust the fucking word of any cac when they murder my people I will wait until the one that survived tells his story for all we know that cac had a car for sale and they were checking it out when he murdered them I'm just saying.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

if that story is true then those young heads fucked

up...I think he overreacted but he had every right to, especially if he was a beta male lil faggot and they were on his property...

I was thinkin he had massive property and the young bruhs were just passing through... but apparently they were in his car..
they said one of those boys survived... if he has a caring family and some support we may get to hear his side of it..

but if he doesnt.... he will have no side..

Im just wondering if the shooter knew them... were they complete strangers or was there some familiarity there

 

[lightbright]

Someone breaks into my garage, I’m shooting too. Especially if I don’t see whether they are armed or not. Entering someone’s property is a deadly game.

Shit I would've shot them too if the story is accurate

I understand if they were knocking on a door or on the sidewalk but all bets are off once you enter someone’s house (yes, the garage is part of the house).

I am 100% OK with this shooting by the homeowner. Is he supposed to wait until one of the kids jumps out on him w/ a gun?! Plus he was outnumbered. He didn't know if all three had firearms.

Just a fatal decision made my those kids.

Not all homeowners would have shot them, I'm OK w/ that too, but for the one's that do, I'm cool w/ that as well.

Article said they were in his car... I see no problem with the shooting if that is the case

If you break in my house I'm shooting first and ask questions later

The kids were doing too much. All in the garage, AND in the car. Crime is a dangerous game.

What’s with the ‘allegedly’ trespassing though? Did they live there or no?

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I had to edit the post when I saw these pics and 100% agree with you @EPDC ….. and in the edit … I said that I would've peppered them with bullets …..

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[Shaka54]

I dont trust the fucking word of any cac when they murder my people I will wait until the one that survived tells his story for all we know that cac had a car for sale and they were checking it out when he murdered them I'm just saying.

In his garage Bruh? In the middle of the night?
We DO have some bad elements among us and if they got caught up, then that's just what it is.

 

[donwuan]

The man and dispatcher appeared to struggle with a language barrier. The dispatcher asked twice if the two people shot were dead, and the man did not answer.

Sounds like he may be Hispanic.

 

[lightbright]

I dont trust the fucking word of any cac when they murder my people I will wait until the one that survived tells his story for all we know that cac had a car for sale and they were checking it out when he murdered them I'm just saying.

Imma let this shooting stand …. look at the mofos that he found in his garage and car …… like I said above … ur not supposed to judge a book by it's cover …. but this book got one … fucked ...up … cover on it ...

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[phanatic]

Someone breaks into my garage, I’m shooting too. Especially if I don’t see whether they are armed or not. Entering someone’s property is a deadly game.

It's a fool's errand. I'm not getting into a scuffle on my own property.

 

[God-Of-War-420]

If true, I have no problems with this at all. It’s unfortunate and sad that these young men died but they where playing stupid games and you know the rest.