History channel shows Hannibal as a Black man. Whites go crazy cry revisionism.

[exiledking]

not true,

crackers in power knew who we were.. they knew back in slavery days and they know now...

Yes and you can see in all the references what they called them, from here to Brazil , as they bought and sold them. You never see "berber" written anywhere, but ya do see Angolans , igbo, nago (subgroup of yorubas), Ashanti, and so on. This would be a perfect opportunity for you to provide that evidence.

the Barbary pirates were Berbers. America has had a friendship treaty with Morocco then as a base from which to fight the pirates- the land of Berbers. There are well known Barbary pirates. Name some of em..they are your ancestors after all.


When Abdul Rahman, known as prince among slaves wrote a letter tag got to the Morocco consulate because it was written in arabic, they made arrangements to get him freed. And he wasn't even a Moor, he was Fulani. And guess where he called home...Futa Jallon, not where Berbers live. Same with Ayuba Suleiman Diallo, another Fulani who got the chance to go home based in his knowledge of arabic- and neither of them called themselves Moors. He went home to Futa Tooro.

And since they spoke arabic, you would think ALL these Africans over here who were supposedly real Moors would have spoken arabic. The deal with Morocco was honored every time it was brought to someone's attention. But somehow millions of Moors were too stupid to take advantage of this according to you. You would think the Islamic folks on the malé rebellion in Brazil wouldve called it the Moorish rebellion and been claiming Moor like you. They didn't but they fought on their own merit. You screaming Moor and ain't done sheeyit. Youre a blemish on the name.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Yes and you can see in all the references what they called them, from here to Brazil , as they bought and sold them. You never see "berber" written anywhere, but ya do see Angolans , igbo, nago (subgroup of yorubas), Ashanti, and so on. This would be a perfect opportunity for you to provide that evidence.

the Barbary pirates were Berbers. America has had a friendship treaty with Morocco then as a base from which to fight the pirates- the land of Berbers. There are well known Barbary pirates. Name some of em..they are your ancestors after all.


When Abdul Rahman, known as prince among slaves wrote a letter tag got to the Morocco consulate because it was written in arabic, they made arrangements to get him freed. And he wasn't even a Moor, he was Fulani. And guess where he called home...Futa Jallon, not where Berbers live. Same with Ayuba Suleiman Diallo, another Fulani who got the chance to go home based in his knowledge of arabic- and neither of them called themselves Moors. He went home to Futa Tooro.

And since they spoke arabic, you would think ALL these Africans over here who were supposedly real Moors would have spoken arabic. The deal with Morocco was honored every time it was brought to someone's attention. But somehow millions of Moors were too stupid to take advantage of this according to you. You would think the Islamic folks on the malé rebellion in Brazil wouldve called it the Moorish rebellion and been claiming Moor like you. They didn't but they fought on their own merit. You screaming Moor and ain't done sheeyit. Youre a blemish on the name.

hey yo Gene, and VA do you agree with this statement...

Yes and you can see in all the references what they called them, from here to Brazil , as they bought and sold them. You never see "berber" written anywhere, but ya do see Angolans , igbo, nago (subgroup of yorubas), Ashanti, and so on. This would be a perfect opportunity for you to provide that evidence.

 

[exiledking]

hey yo Gene, and VA do you agree with this statement...

Yes and you can see in all the references what they called them, from here to Brazil , as they bought and sold them. You never see "berber" written anywhere, but ya do see Angolans , igbo, nago (subgroup of yorubas), Ashanti, and so on. This would be a perfect opportunity for you to provide that evidence.

Lol you can't field this one on your own? Its not something you AGREE on, you either show it to be untrue by ... Gasp - showing a source or stfu.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Lol you can't field this one on your own? Its not something you AGREE on, you either show it to be untrue by ... Gasp - showing a source or stfu.

I just want to know if your crew agrees with you...

 

[exiledking]

I just want to know if your crew agrees with you...

You could change everyone's view of it by posting a source contrary to it. I'll wait.

 

[Joe Money]

You might have overlooked this part..

NATURALLY CANADA'S POPULATION IS AMONG THE WORLDS HEALTHIEST, AND IN NO WAY COULD BE COMPARED TO UNDERFED OVERWORKED SLAVES OF LONG AGO. BUT THE CANADIAN NUMBERS WILL BE USED TO MAKE THE STRONGEST POINT.

You could say the same thing about all of Europe right now, or even Japan, but many European countries currently have negative replacement rates. You should be looking at the birth and death rates in Canada and perhaps compare that to the antebellum South.

hey yo Gene, and VA do you agree with this statement...

Yes and you can see in all the references what they called them, from here to Brazil , as they bought and sold them. You never see "berber" written anywhere, but ya do see Angolans , igbo, nago (subgroup of yorubas), Ashanti, and so on. This would be a perfect opportunity for you to provide that evidence.

You could change everyone's view of it by posting a source contrary to it. I'll wait.

I know he wants to reference the South Carolina Negro Law of 1740, because it mentions "ancient Berbers" in Section 4. I'm just waiting to see if he does it.

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

One reason why I dont get involved in History debates is because Im not a fan of History. I can debate about a lot of things..History aint one of em. Shit bores me. But another reason is because I know im about to hear a bunch of bs that more than likely will never be 100% correct.

Everyone always seems to put their personal spin on things. But the truth is no one knows the complete truth. So why stress/argue about it???

SOME have become the very monsters they tried to debunk.

True.

The problem with Historians is that its hard to figure out who genuinely searched for the truth, and who was just bitter/trying to find things to heal their low self esteem.

All groups have had successes and failures. But having an honest discussion about those successes and failures will be hard to have as long as Racism is around.

 

[exiledking]

The problem with Historians is that its hard to figure out who genuinely searched for the truth, and who was just bitter/trying to find things to heal their low self esteem.

.

I don't see it as being too hard at all, especially in certain cases.

Case in point, even though he's no where near a historian, we can see someone in this thread who obviously just trying to heal his low self esteem. How can we tell? By the way he continually presents hi is flimsy points

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

You could say the same thing about all of Europe right now, or even Japan, but many European countries currently have negative replacement rates. You should be looking at the birth and death rates in Canada and perhaps compare that to the antebellum South.

SO you are saying the underfed and maltreated slaves had a population growth rate compared to modern day Canada?

Is THAT what you are implying??

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

You could say the same thing about all of Europe right now, or even Japan, but many European countries currently have negative replacement rates. You should be looking at the birth and death rates in Canada and perhaps compare that to the antebellum South.





I know he wants to reference the South Carolina Negro Law of 1740, because it mentions "ancient Berbers" in Section 4. I'm just waiting to see if he does it.

Exactly so now tell exiled king he is full of shit...

Since you know this why are you hiding it an covering up??

Now tell exiled king he is full of shit because that law clearly states who an educate elite member of the ruling class.

Knew who we were at that time...


dont be a bitch tell exiled king he was wrong,
so called Negros WERE acknowledged as the ancient berbers....not in russia, or china

but right here in the good ol USA. and by an educated uniformed member of society but by an actual Judge....

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Oh ya mean where it says it DOES NOT refer to those africans as negros? right It specically says those people are NOT included. So again that's who he wants to be lol. Ashamed to be west african.


I'm talking about slave trade documents that list west Africans brought over. Those. I wonder of he will find a ship document that lists berbers.

Just as now, Libyans, Egyptians, Tunisians, NORTH AFRICANS are not referred to in that way.

Once again, what he is preparing to drop as knowledge will betray him.

wow so now you cannot read..

it clearly states.

Negros(the ancient berbers).....

exactly how it is written..

there is no way around this one.....

come on.. admit you were wrong!!

or have reading comprehension problems...

 

[exiledking]

wow so now you cannot read..

it clearly states.

Negros(the ancient berbers).....

exactly how it is written..

there is no way around this one.....

come on.. admit you were wrong!!

or have reading comprehension problems...

Oh ok. You are correct it does.

What else does it say about Moors and Egyptians? Go ahead and post it.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Oh ok. You are correct it does.

What else does it say about Moors and Egyptians? Go ahead and post it.

it just breaks down who they considered freemen at that time, because they were losing slave labor to freemen.

so they had to legally change a moor into a negro thus takng away all his rights..

It proves elite cacs knew who we were then and the elite cacs know now...

the uh not so elite dont have a clue...

See how our true history is hidden and how we have to dig in places they forgot to cover up to reveal it..


they made sure to rewrite the history books but they forgot about the law books../missionary letters.... which also describe what that indigenous people of the americas looked like.. before critobal colon aka chrissy columbus invaded, raped and stole..

we also need our own schools to teach our own children so they will stop blindly following the cac narrative of who we are..

and one of the main subjects should be teaching our youth languages like latin and hebrew, so much more information of our true history could be found under those languages...

 

[exiledking]

it just breaks down who they considered freemen at that time, because they were losing slave labor to freemen.

so they had to legally change a moor into a negro thus takng away all his rights..

It proves elite cacs knew who we were then and the elite cacs know now...

the uh not so elite dont have a clue...

See how our true history is hidden and how we have to dig in places they forgot to cover up to reveal it..


they made sure to rewrite the history books but they forgot about the law books../missionary letters.... which also describe what that indigenous people of the americas looked like.. before critobal colon aka chrissy columbus invaded, raped and stole..

we also need our own schools to teach our own children so they will stop blindly following the cac narrative of who we are..

and one of the main subjects should be teaching our youth languages like latin and hebrew, so much more information of our true history could be found under those languages...

Wow you just made that shit all the way up lol. Where'd you get that idea from?

Btw this is only one document that even mentions this. Any documents of sales, transactions that ever reference this ?

Funny how the same document you're saying you caught them on where they forgot to change, you seem to also be catching them in a change lol

You are west african. Quit crying.

 

[gene cisco]

Nope. Not at all.

Some were called yoruba at some point, Hausa, Fulani in some case, soninké, mandinka, Ashanti, Angolan, igbo, Bini, etc... All those people you skip over in your quest to be from somewhere and a part of something you ain't.

And these people existed in these areas at the same as the Berbers stupid.

Mansa Musa would gone through the land of the Berberson his pilgrimage. He may have bought a berber concubine or two, so if he fucked em and had kids, there's a few in your mix.

The MOORS came through west Africa and spread Islam, but not nearly as much of the civilization they so called gave to the Mediterranean europeans. Strange that they spread this civilization there and not as much in West Africa. Also strange that the AFROASIATIC language aren't as closely related to the Niger congo languages The closest you get are the Chadic languages like Hausa. But you won't claim Hausa , cuz no white people told you to.

I guess they are doctoring DNA tests since that's where we trace back to when taking them. I've seen this cat post some present day berbers before, so we know they are there, right? Why no genetic connection to ANY of the tribes/people?

It's funny. One of my friends was a christian, but she's also very afrocentric. So in the past when I called her out on being a christian instead of focusing on the religion of her ancestors, she would come with the 'Ethiopians were the first christians' argument. I'd ask her what the hell she had to do with Ethiopia, to which she would say that we don't know that we aren't.

Well, her and a few of her family members took DNA tests. Nothing close to Ethiopia showed up. Not a surprise to anyone who studies history.

I guess after months of thinking about it she stopped with the church shit(admitting how it was forced on our ancestors) and started looking deeper into the true religions of her ancestors. Knowing the history of the slave trade isn't enough for some people. They will continue lying to themselves and making fantastical claims into they see other evidence smack them right in the fucking face.

I didn't know she did all this until a recent talk with her, but DNA testing definitely helps us sort out some of what was lost during the horrific slave trade. It's like not knowing who your parents are and then being handed all their contact info. I mean, you can know they live in the west coast of Africa, but without direct contact info, you just don't know shit and there are many people to choose from.

One reason why I dont get involved in History debates is because Im not a fan of History. I can debate about a lot of things..History aint one of em. Shit bores me. But another reason is because I know im about to hear a bunch of bs that more than likely will never be 100% correct.

Everyone always seems to put their personal spin on things. But the truth is no one knows the complete truth. So why stress/argue about it???




True.

The problem with Historians is that its hard to figure out who genuinely searched for the truth, and who was just bitter/trying to find things to heal their low self esteem.

All groups have had successes and failures. But having an honest discussion about those successes and failures will be hard to have as long as Racism is around.

We know outright lies though, e.g., Columbus discovered America and we are the Moors who civilized Europe.

I think it's important to have debate likes this because people seem to be putting more and more stake in the fucking past and making even crazier claims. The 'they hid this and that from us' movement seems to be growing. The culture jacking is growing. As MOSTLY West Africans, we tend to claim everything but our own. Some of the folks running around talking about cultural appropriation are some of the biggest fucking cultural appropriators. Let people have their culture and history. We have our own.

And yes, a lot of it has to do with self-esteem. It's the same reason a lot of cacs wanted to claim Rome and Greece -- even the cacs who were responsible for Rome's downfall. All that WE did this, and WE did that shit.

I'm seeing more and more young people like "We were this, we were that" and it's everything except who are ancestors were. Information still seems hidden, but it's us who are hiding it while running to other cultures and people and claiming their shit. Folks can tell me everything about East Africa, North Africa, and even fucking West Asia, but not a damn thing about West Africa unless it is referring to Timbuktu AFTER the moors invaded and traders brought the paper for the fucking library.

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

Folks can tell me everything about East Africa, North Africa, and even fucking West Asia, but not a damn thing about West Africa unless it is referring to Timbuktu AFTER the moors invaded and traders brought the paper for the fucking library.

Because a lot of people equate West Africa to failure. When you talk about West Africa, most folks cant get their minds around what they learned in American schools; the Slave trade.

If White folks started pumping up West Africa, as much as they do the Horn of Africa, then more Black folks will start paying attention.

We need to stop responding to nonsense and worry about us.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Wow you just made that shit all the way up lol. Where'd you get that idea from?

Btw this is only one document that even mentions this. Any documents of sales, transactions that ever reference this ?

Funny how the same document you're saying you caught them on where they forgot to change, you seem to also be catching them in a change lol

You are west african. Quit crying.

all I need is one legit document to prove my point that we are the ancient berbers...

the rest of your post makes no sense, its all over the place..

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

LOL,

I just jibber jabber after jibber jabber,

The Negro Law of South Carolina 1793-1863

section 4.

Clearly states the american negro were the ancient berbers...

I notice nobody is addressing this... and just blabbing away...

yall act like cause someone was living in a country means that is where they are genetically from.

as if people though generations always stayed in the same place.

un fuckin beliveable...

How many of you Hannibal is not black nay sayers,

represented in the Identity thread..??

only cacs have a problem with Hannibal being a black african...

exiled king of delusion
gene cisco
chitown
vahustlez

be honest, nobody is gonna kick your ass,

simple yes or no.

Have you confirmed your identity in the steelwill Identity thread??

 

[gene cisco]

Because a lot of people equate West Africa to failure. When you talk about West Africa, most folks cant get their minds around what they learned in American schools; the Slave trade.

If White folks started pumping up West Africa, as much as they do the Horn of Africa, then more Black folks will start paying attention.

We need to stop responding to nonsense and worry about us.

Exactly. All of this is a direct response to Eurocentric fuckery. Before DNA testing, folks were lost. We didn't have an African identity. A lot of guessing. They never taught anything about West Africa in school. To cacs, it didn't exist. Egypt did. Christianity did. Moors invading Europe was brought up with Shakespeare.

But as facts come out, things change. These DNA tests black folks are taking are like being on the Maury show. It's eye opening to some. To actually KNOW something for sure just like other groups have had the privilege of knowing for centuries. Hopefully, this will lead to more black people studying the history of our ancestors instead of traveling to the other side of Africa and even West Asia looking to claim cultures.

It's funny. One of the commercials shows a cac who thought his family was from a certain part of Europe(I think Italy). Turns out, cac was Scottish. Could have been the other way around, but the point is he had some adjusting to do. lol

 

[gene cisco]

LOL,

I just jibber jabber after jibber jabber,

The Negro Law of South Carolina 1793-1863

section 4.

Clearly states the american negro were the ancient berbers...

I notice nobody is addressing this... and just blabbing away...

yall act like cause someone was living in a country means that is where they are genetically from.

as if people though generations always stayed in the same place.

un fuckin beliveable...

How many of you Hannibal is not black nay sayers,

represented in the Identity thread..??

only cacs have a problem with Hannibal being a black african...

exiled king of delusion
gene cisco
chitown
vahustlez

be honest, nobody is gonna kick your ass,

simple yes or no.

Have you confirmed your identity in the steelwill Identity thread??

I had to like this because you finally tried to post a fucking source after your other source failures. And cut the cac shit. It's a sign you are throwing the towel in. As I told you, if you have definite proof, you will be a legend in the world of scholars. All anyone is asking for is fucking proof.

As for your berber claim, aren't the ancient berbers still up there? Why aren't we genetically linked to them. Just answer that. Are the cacs burying that info and falsifying DNA tests so we don't build warp engines and ray guns and exterminate all the cacs?

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

I had to like this because you finally tried to post a fucking source after your other source failures. And cut the cac shit. It's a sign you are throwing the towel in. As I told you, if you have definite proof, you will be a legend in the world of scholars. All anyone is asking for is fucking proof.

As for your berber claim, aren't the ancient berbers still up there? Why aren't we genetically linked to them. Just answer that. Are the cacs burying that info and falsifying DNA tests so we don't build warp engines and ray guns and exterminate all the cacs?

Ok first did you represent in the identity thread yes or no? simple question just need a simple answer.

Secondly

I provided proof that DIRECTLTY states from an ELITE member of cac society who the so called american negros really are... on an official historical legal document...

and all I get is pussyfooting around it with constant talks of dna testing..

Thirdly,

How accurate is commerical dna testing to prove genetics...

and how much of it is hype?

fourthly to compare modern day berbers to ancient berbers is just foolishly simple minded...

The document I provided clearly says ancient berbers,

you do not know of the many germanic invasions of that region since then..

I gave you a lot more credit than that dude... you seem on the levels of exiled king of delusion with your logic..

 

[gene cisco]

Ok first did you represent in the identity thread yes or no? simple question just need a simple answer.

Secondly

I provided proof that DIRECTLTY states from an ELITE member of cac society who the so called american negros really are... on an official historical legal document...

and all I get is pussyfooting around it with constant talks of dna testing..

Thirdly,

How accurate is commerical dna testing to prove genetics...

and how much of it is hype?

fourthly to compare modern day berbers to ancient berbers is just foolishly simple minded...

The document I provided clearly says ancient berbers,

you do not know of the many germanic invasions of that region since then..

I gave you a lot more credit than that dude... you seem on the levels of exiled king of delusion with your logic..

No, I never did any of that shit. I've known posters off this board(Some of us are from the same areas of D'ville, Heights, HVD, and so on). If anyone else thinks I'm a cac or a coon, fuck'em. It's usually because I don't cosign some type of fuckery and have strong opinions. It's cool when my opinions are with them, but I'm a cac or coon when my opinions don't go with the flow. Childish shit.

Second, so now you trust cac sources? When I posted the source saying they couldn't determine Hannibal's heritage, it was because they want to hide something for whatever fucking reason they would want to hide it. Now, cacs are reliable sources? Which is it?

Third, they have genetic profiles. Once you have them, you can compare. It's why they have DNA databases here. They collect for future comparison. But hey, I've heard cats get mad as fuck when DNA was brought into the equation but they throw twisted linguistic arguments around like Brady throws touchdowns. You speak English, does that make you a cac? Of course not. If a black person calls a dark-skin black person purple black, does that mean they actually fucking purple? Are light skin people really fucking yellow? Of course not. But cats will dismiss DNA and go for absurd plays on language.

Fourth, define ancient. The moors of recent years were arabs AND berbers. You have posted modern Berbers claiming them to be ancient before. So how ancient are you talking 500 years? 1000 years? 3000 years? If you are talking recent, we are clearly not related to the 'ancient moors' who help west Asians invade Africa. If you are talking about 3000 years ago, you have a lot of room to work with, but there still isn't PROOF on your side.

That's why we have been asking you for fucking timelines.

1. Are the recent moors that you claim as 'we' when referring the the invasion of Europe the same as the ones from 2500 years ago?

Give us some damn timelines.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

No, I never did any of that shit. I've known posters off this board(Some of us are from the same areas of D'ville, Heights, HVD, and so on). If anyone else thinks I'm a cac or a coon, fuck'em. It's usually because I don't cosign some type of fuckery and have strong opinions. It's cool when my opinions are with them, but I'm a cac or coon when my opinions don't go with the flow. Childish shit.

Second, so now you trust cac sources? When I posted the source saying they couldn't determine Hannibal's heritage, it was because they want to hide something for whatever fucking reason they would want to hide it. Now, cacs are reliable sources? Which is it?

Third, they have genetic profiles. Once you have them, you can compare. It's why they have DNA databases here. They collect for future comparison. But hey, I've heard cats get mad as fuck when DNA was brought into the equation but they throw twisted linguistic arguments around like Brady throws touchdowns. You speak English, does that make you a cac? Of course not. If a black person calls a dark-skin black person purple black, does that mean they actually fucking purple? Are light skin people really fucking yellow? Of course not. But cats will dismiss DNA and go for absurd plays on language.

Fourth, define ancient. The moors of recent years were arabs AND berbers. You have posted modern Berbers claiming them to be ancient before. So how ancient are you talking 500 years? 1000 years? 3000 years? If you are talking recent, we are clearly not related to the 'ancient moors' who help west Asians invade Africa. If you are talking about 3000 years ago, you have a lot of room to work with, but there still isn't PROOF on your side.

That's why we have been asking you for fucking timelines.

1. Are the recent moors that you claim as 'we' when referring the the invasion of Europe the same as the ones from 2500 years ago?

Give us some damn timelines.

lol,

dude asking you if you identified yourself in that thread is a simple yes or no answer, that got pretty emotional and defensive... there...

Now first you ask for a source, I provided one, now you are makng this about me asking me if I agree with the source.

which clearly states on an historic legal document who the so called negro actually is....

so instead of dealing with that, and debunking it.. which you cannot do...

you are asking me if I believe in sources now...

How about debunking the source which you cant and leaving your personal issues about me out this, now that I provided a source lets deal with the facts..

and that is the so called Negro are the ancient berbers/moors...

and it obvious cacs want to hide this fact because Its in legal documents and NOT in history books where it belongs.. you really lack logical thought dont you?

now why on earth would I provide a time line if you cant even deal with the source I provide,

LOL

too funny...

where did your band of merry mental midgets go..?

I want to know if they are in the hand verification thread...

only because it will explain why yall are so defensive about Hanibal being a black african...

I am not going to provide a timeline because all you going to do is say..

oh you got this time line from a white source as if you would trust any black sources..

Hannibal is a black african

Blacks are Moors aka Ancient berbers, aka the original hebrews, the Olmecs, the REAL Pharoahs etc.....

so why waste time with a timeline when you cant even deal with the source I posted....

 

[gene cisco]

lol,

dude asking you if you identified yourself in that thread is a simple yes or no answer, that got pretty emotional and defensive... there...

Now first you ask for a source, I provided one, now you are makng this about me asking me if I agree with the source.

which clearly states on an historic legal document who the so called negro actually is....

so instead of dealing with that, and debunking it.. which you cannot do...

you are asking me if I believe in sources now...

How about debunking the source which you cant and leaving your personal issues about me out this, now that I provided a source lets deal with the facts..

and that is the so called Negro are the ancient berbers/moors...

and it obvious cacs want to hide this fact because Its in legal documents and NOT in history books where it belongs.. you really lack logical thought dont you?

now why on earth would I provide a time line if you cant even deal with the source I provide,

LOL

too funny...

where did your band of merry mental midgets go..?

I want to know if they are in the hand verification thread...

only because it will explain why yall are so defensive about Hanibal being a black african...

I am not going to provide a timeline because all you going to do is say..

oh you got this time line from a white source as if you would trust any black sources..

Hannibal is a black african

Blacks are Moors aka Ancient berbers, aka the original hebrews, the Olmecs, the REAL Pharoahs etc.....

so why waste time with a timeline when you cant even deal with the source I posted....

Defensive? Not at all. Just know if a poster insists I'm a cac or a coon because they can't win a debate with sourced facts that I've already won. It's childish. I don't know about the other posters' verification nor do I care. I've noticed nothing racist about their posts. They just ask for valid sources and info like scholars are asking for. You just can't state shit and make it true.

Those who follow history want proof. Not pseudo history from either the eurocentric or afrocentric sides.

I've shown DNA evidence showing no fucking link to north Africa for us. So your recent examples of of claiming moor are out. So how ancient are you talking? Also, I've already showed we don't trace to Native Americans, so let them have their culture.

And cacs want to hide this 'fact' that you claim because of legal documents? The same documents they change whenever the fuck they want to? Like what? We are going to court and get them to hand their drones, nukes, and weapons over to us? Fuck are you talking about?

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Defensive? Not at all. Just know if a poster insists I'm a cac or a coon because they can't win a debate with sourced facts that I've already won. It's childish. I don't know about the other posters' verification nor do I care. I've noticed nothing racist about their posts. They just ask for valid sources and info like scholars are asking for. You just can't state shit and make it true.

Those who follow history want proof. Not pseudo history from either the eurocentric or afrocentric sides.

I've shown DNA evidence showing no fucking link to north Africa for us. So your recent examples of of claiming moor are out. So how ancient are you talking? Also, I've already showed we don't trace to Native Americans, so let them have their culture.

And cacs want to hide this 'fact' that you claim because of legal documents? The same documents they change whenever the fuck they want to? Like what? We are going to court and get them to hand their drones, nukes, and weapons over to us? Fuck are you talking about?

Nobody insisting you are a cac or coon, its justs I notice only caucasion euros have issues with Hannibal being a black african.. thats all...

Ok let me get this right, you are saying an Historic Legal Document stating Negros are the ancient berbers....

but you are comparing modern day north africans to ancient berbers is this correct??

No you silly hillbilly who said cacs want to hide this claim because of legal documents what are you talkin about..

Im saying the fact that I have to pull sources from a legal documents and its not available where it should be in history books, is proof they are covering shit up...

If you cant logically deduce that simple fact then your thought process is lacking.

 

[gene cisco]

Nobody insisting you are a cac or coon, its justs I notice only caucasion euros have issues with Hannibal being a black african.. thats all...

Ok let me get this right, you are saying an Historic Legal Document stating Negros are the ancient berbers....

but you are comparing modern day north africans to ancient berbers is this correct??

No you silly hillbilly who said cacs want to hide this claim because of legal documents what are you talkin about..

Im saying the fact that I have to pull sources from a legal documents and its not available where it should be in history books, is proof they are covering shit up...

If you cant logically deduce that simple fact then your thought process is lacking.

I agree cacs have problems admitting things. I never argued that. And you'll never see me argue against conclusive proof. Scholars just don't know Hannibal's race. The presence of non-black Africans complicated matters.

We are seriously going to have to define north African populations.

Simple yes or no as you would say...

1. Were the ancient berbers in Hannibals' time the same as the ones who invaded Spain in the 700s?

Now not so simple.

2. If not, who were the recent ones in the 700s to 1400s?

3. If they were the same during the 'civilization' of Europe and ancient times, when did they change so that our DNA doesn't match theirs?

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

1- yes

3- dude you don't know how many times and when north africa was invaded by Savage germanic tribes

Google that bitch for your time line.

 

[Joe Money]

Nobody insisting you are a cac or coon, its justs I notice only caucasion euros have issues with Hannibal being a black african.. thats all...

Ok let me get this right, you are saying an Historic Legal Document stating Negros are the ancient berbers....

but you are comparing modern day north africans to ancient berbers is this correct??

No you silly hillbilly who said cacs want to hide this claim because of legal documents what are you talkin about..

Im saying the fact that I have to pull sources from a legal documents and its not available where it should be in history books, is proof they are covering shit up...

If you cant logically deduce that simple fact then your thought process is lacking.

A few things:

1. You are the only one claiming that Hannibal was a Berber.

2. Do you know the history and etymology of the term "Berber" and why and how it has been used? I would post the info but you won't read it anyway.

3. You want to have your cake and eat it to. You want to cite an "elite CAC" from a single law when you think it proves your point (which I will disprove later), but the second sentence of the section in question says that "Negro" does not embrace "Egyptians, Moors, or the Negro Asiatics," -- all groups you want to identify as being black as well.

SECTION 4 The term Negro is confined to slave Africans (The ancient Berbers) and their descendants. It does not embrace the free inhabitants of Africa, such as the Egyptians, Moors, or the Negro Asiatics, such as Lascars.​

 

[Joe Money]

1- yes

3- dude you don't know how many times and when north africa was invaded by Savage germanic tribes

Google that bitch for your time line.

When did Germanic tribes invade North Africa?

 

[Joe Money]

1- yes

3- dude you don't know how many times and when north africa was invaded by Savage germanic tribes

Google that bitch for your time line.

When did Germanic tribes invade North Africa?

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

A few things:

1. You are the only one claiming that Hannibal was a Berber.

2. Do you know the history and etymology of the term "Berber" and why and how it has been used? I would post the info but you won't read it anyway.

3. You want to have your cake and eat it to. You want to cite an "elite CAC" from a single law when you think it proves your point (which I will disprove later), but the second sentence of the section in question says that "Negro" does not embrace "Egyptians, Moors, or the Negro Asiatics," -- all groups you want to identify as being black as well.

SECTION 4 The term Negro is confined to slave Africans (The ancient Berbers) and their descendants. It does not embrace the free inhabitants of Africa, such as the Egyptians, Moors, or the Negro Asiatics, such as Lascars.​

We will deal with that later here are the facts..

You guys are jumping all over the place like hot locust. ..

Your team stated that so called african Americans aka so called negros had no ties to North africa

Went on rants about the muthafucka.

So I show a legit historical legal document that clearly states the so called negro are the ancient berbers

And so now yall trying to swarm on a knigga.

from Yourself, gene , exile king of delusion, dudes coming out the wood work

to say nothing Charlie doo doo brown..


It's like a cyber support group.


So the point is the document clearly shows that so called American negro were also known as ancient berbers showing a clear link with

So called african Americans aka the ancient berbers and North Africa.

And now you want to talk about moors...

Yall some locust fo real...

Simple yes or no

Have you represented in the identity thread

Just out of sheer curiosity.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

When did Germanic tribes invade North Africa?

About a century or so after Scipio pulled that pussy move on Hannibal and attacked Carthage instead of attacking hannibal on some real man shit.

 

[Joe Money]

We will deal with that later here are the facts..

You guys are jumping all over the place like hot locust. ..

Your team stated that so called african Americans aka so called negros had no ties to North africa

Went on rants about the muthafucka.

So I show a legit historical legal document that clearly states the so called negro are the ancient berbers

And so now yall trying to swarm on a knigga.

from Yourself, gene , exile king of delusion, dudes coming out the wood work

to say nothing Charlie doo doo brown..


It's like a cyber support group.


So the point is the document clearly shows that so called American negro were also known as ancient berbers showing a clear link with

So called african Americans aka the ancient berbers and North Africa.

And now you want to talk about moors...

Yall some locust fo real...

Simple yes or no

Have you represented in the identity thread

Just out of sheer curiosity.

Nobody is jumping all over the place but YOU! But back to the topic. You are arguing that Black Americans are descended from NORTH Africans, and we're arguing that Black Americans are descended from WEST Africans. You are also assuming that the term "ancient Berbers" is only or primarily referring to North Africans, and you don't know what the term "Berber" means or where it comes from. I am going to educate you on that later, although you still won't learn anything. You are also arguing that Hannibal was a Berber, which is a claim that NO ONE else is making, and which you can't source or prove at all. Lastly, the same document that you are sourcing ALSO says that the term "Negro" does NOT include the Moors, and you want to conveniently overlook this. Not to mention, your primary source was written by a blatant white supremacist, and was a law that codified and enshrined chattel slavery of black people. I find it highly ironic that you want to use this as your principle source.

About a century or so after Scipio pulled that pussy move on Hannibal and attacked Carthage instead of attacking hannibal on some real man shit.

Scipio fought and defeated Hannibal directly at the Battle of Zama, which ended the Second Punic War. He laid siege to Carthage to prevent any supplies from getting to Hannibal's army, but Carthage wasn't destroyed until the Third Punic War, which was about 60 years later. And there was no "Germanic" invasion after Hannibal. This information is easily found with a simple search, but you won't even do that!

Oh yeah, your "proof" is below! Read a book nigga! And post your timelines while your at it!

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Nobody is jumping all over the place but YOU! But back to the topic. You are arguing that Black Americans are descended from NORTH Africans, and we're arguing that Black Americans are descended from WEST Africans. You are also assuming that the term "ancient Berbers" is only or primarily referring to North Africans, and you don't know what the term "Berber" means or where it comes from. I am going to educate you on that later, although you still won't learn anything. You are also arguing that Hannibal was a Berber, which is a claim that NO ONE else is making, and which you can't source or prove at all. Lastly, the same document that you are sourcing ALSO says that the term "Negro" does NOT include the Moors, and you want to conveniently overlook this. Not to mention, your primary source was written by a blatant white supremacist, and was a law that codified and enshrined chattel slavery of black people. I find it highly ironic that you want to use this as your principle source.



Scipio fought and defeated Hannibal directly at the Battle of Zama, which ended the Second Punic War. He laid siege to Carthage to prevent any supplies from getting to Hannibal's army, but Carthage wasn't destroyed until the Third Punic War, which was about 60 years later. And there was no "Germanic" invasion after Hannibal. This information is easily found with a simple search, but you won't even do that!

Oh yeah, your "proof" is below! Read a book nigga! And post your timelines while your at it!

Moor, in English usage, a Moroccan or, formerly, a member of the Muslim population of what is now Spain andPortugal. Of mixed Arab, Spanish, andAmazig h (Berber) origins

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Moor-people


If we were the Ancient Berbers then....

but first..

thanks for the verification..

you just proved my point...

by identifying yourself those that have nothing to hide wont hesitiate... big shout out to exiled king, charlie brown and gene cisco..

but you still could be a cac on the inside.. lol nah I knew you were either a brother or a confused wigger by your previous postings...


Never the less, in case you didnt know the Ancient Moors were the Berbers and there is a direct connection to both....

from wikipedia,

Moors refers to the Muslim inhabitants of theMaghreb, North Africa, the Iberian Peninsula,Sicily, and Malta during the Middle Ages, who initially were Berber and Arab peoples fromNorth Africa.[1][2]

So apparently Im not the only one "assuming'.


Of course the legal source I provided was written by a cracker white supremecist..

who else would have a better idea of who we are as a people than those that actually covered it up.

As I stated before they would never make that correlation between so called negros and ancient berbers in any history book... Why is that?

see how we have to really dig and put pieces together to find out

who we are??

Some are still confused after reading that proof I provided but those that can incorporate simple logic and reasoning easily make the conection..

secondly

They the racist crackers knew we were moors they were just tryin to find reasons to strip that title from us and redefine what a Berber actually is..

It was widely known at that time we were indigenous people descendant from moors/hebrews/original so called arabs.

but the needed to separate us from that, which is why they used the term negro and put ancient berbers in parenthesis.

but as you can see there is a direct correlation between Ancient moors and berbers...

So by confirming we are the Ancient Berbers just opened up the flood gates...

there is no thing and has never been in our existence any race called negro...

they had to create one, to take our freedoms away as a people...

Its all simple deductive reasoning... and logic..

Some people have it..

Most dont!!

And Yes most of those that were bought here from the atlantic slave trade came from west africa, after all thats where the ports were..

But most of us were already here... and indigenous to this land.

In addition are you familiar with Etymology and Etymological dictionarys..

You know the ORGIN of words and not just how they are currently used.

Well lets look up the ORGIN of the word MOOR.. lets see what we find..

Moors refers to the Muslim inhabitants of theMaghreb, North Africa, the Iberian Peninsula,Sicily, and Malta during the Middle Ages, who initially were Berber and Arab peoples fromNorth Africa.[1][2]

are you saying there was NO germanic invasion by the barbaric savage germanic tribe the vandals after Hannibal..

and you are TELLING ME TO READ..

un fuckin believable...

and stop the mind fuckery,

I never denied any west african connection,

it was yo crew that was saying, there were NO ties to american blacks and north africa.. especially egypt..

show me where I denied we came from west africa..

Im telling you our antcestors were Afro Asiatic...

show once where I said we were not from west africa,

we had to be from west africa..from places like Maurantania,

where to you think the Maur in Maurantania comes from...

Africa and America were connected at one time but thats just another topic for another day, your reasoning skills can just barely handle the simple logic of connecting so called negros, ancient berbers and moors.

 

[Joe Money]

Moor, in English usage, a Moroccan or, formerly, a member of the Muslim population of what is now Spain andPortugal. Of mixed Arab, Spanish, andAmazig h (Berber) origins

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Moor-people


If we were the Ancient Berbers then....

but first..

thanks for the verification..

you just proved my point...

by identifying yourself those that have nothing to hide wont hesitiate... big shout out to exiled king, charlie brown and gene cisco..

but you still could be a cac on the inside.. lol nah I knew you were either a brother or a confused wigger by your previous postings...


Never the less, in case you didnt know the Ancient Moors were the Berbers and there is a direct connection to both....

from wikipedia,

Moors refers to the Muslim inhabitants of theMaghreb, North Africa, the Iberian Peninsula,Sicily, and Malta during the Middle Ages, who initially were Berber and Arab peoples fromNorth Africa.[1][2]

So apparently Im not the only one "assuming'.

No one is denying that the Moors of Spain were Arabs and Berbers. And both of the definitions YOU used reference the "Muslim population" and "Muslim inhabitants...during the Middle Ages." You are claiming that:

1. "Moors" existed during the time of Hannibal;
2. that he himself was a "Moor,";
3. that Moors and Berbers are the same people;
4. that Black Americans are descended from these people.

The only claim here that can be proven is #3, but there is a 1,000-year historical gap that you aren't aware of. You have no concept of time.

course the legal source I provided was written by a cracker white supremecist..

who else would have a better idea of who we are as a people than those that actually covered it up.

As I stated before they would never make that correlation between so called negros and ancient berbers in any history book... Why is that?

see how we have to really dig and put pieces together to find out

who we are??

Some are still confused after reading that proof I provided but those that can incorporate simple logic and reasoning easily make the conection..

secondly

They the racist crackers knew we were moors they were just tryin to find reasons to strip that title from us and redefine what a Berber actually is..

It was widely known at that time we were indigenous people descendant from moors/hebrews/original so called arabs.

but the needed to separate us from that, which is why they used the term negro and put ancient berbers in parenthesis.

but as you can see there is a direct correlation between Ancient moors and berbers...

So by confirming we are the Ancient Berbers just opened up the flood gates...

there is no thing and has never been in our existence any race called negro...

they had to create one, to take our freedoms away as a people...

Its all simple deductive reasoning... and logic..

Some people have it..

Most dont!!

Yes, like you. So I will ask again, why do you believe the source when it says that "Negro" includes the "ancient Berbers" but does not include the "Moors?" Evidently, your source makes a distinction between the Berbers and the Moors. You believe the first sentence of your source but do not believe the second sentence. If the second sentence is not to be believed, then why should the first sentence be believed? If the "cracker" who wrote it was so intent on hiding our history and origins, why would he keep "the ancient Berbers" in there?

Yes most of those that were bought here from the atlantic slave trade came from west africa, after all thats where the ports were..

But most of us were already here... and indigenous to this land.

This opens up a whole new debate. So is this the ultimate point you are trying to make? That the majority of black people were already here PRIOR to the Middle Passage?

In addition are you familiar with Etymology and Etymological dictionarys..

You know the ORGIN of words and not just how they are currently used.

Well lets look up the ORGIN of the word MOOR.. lets see what we find..

Moors refers to the Muslim inhabitants of theMaghreb, North Africa, the Iberian Peninsula,Sicily, and Malta during the Middle Ages, who initially were Berber and Arab peoples fromNorth Africa.[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors#cite_note-2

Are YOU familiar with etymology? That's not the origin of the word "Moor"; that's the contemporary meaning. The word "Moor" comes from the Greek word mauros, which means "black." Ironically, if you knew what you were talking about, you could use that to support some of the bullshit you're saying.

you saying there was NO germanic invasion by the barbaric savage germanic tribe the vandals after Hannibal..

and you are TELLING ME TO READ..

un fuckin believable...

and stop the mind fuckery,

The Vandals and Goths overran Rome ABOUT 500 YEARS AFTER THE LAST PUNIC WARS! And they didn't overrun Carthage!!

never denied any west african connection,

it was yo crew that was saying, there were NO ties to american blacks and north africa.. especially egypt..

And I will repeat, your goddamn source implied that "negroes" and "Egyptians" were distinct from each other!! So what is it? You want to believe the source or not? I find it highly ironic that, of the few sources you have shown, you never use a Black or African scholar as a source.

show me where I denied we came from west africa..

Im telling you our antcestors were Afro Asiatic...

show once where I said we were not from west africa,

we had to be from west africa..from places like Maurantania,

where to you think the Maur in Maurantania comes from...

Africa and America were connected at one time but thats just another topic for another day, your reasoning skills can just barely handle the simple logic of connecting so called negros, ancient berbers and moors.

Jesus Christ. This nigga done gone back to Pangaea!! So black people were walking the Earth when all the continents were one?

Since you can drop these word salad posts (or copied-and-pasted posts), why not drop a historical timeline?