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Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowess'

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Shakespeare. Aristotle. Jay-Z?

The collected works of the New York rapper have found their way into the curriculum at prestigious Georgetown University — and that’s riling some students and critics.

Jay-Z’s boasts about being the “Mike Jordan of recording” and his riffs on both street life and luxury living are the basis of a class entitled “Sociology of Hip-Hop: Jay-Z.”

It’s taught by TV pundit Michael Eric Dyson, who is an unabashed fan of what he calls Jay-Z’s social commentary — as well as the rapper’s business acumen.

“I think he’s an icon of American excellence,” the professor told the Associated Press.

Dyson praised Jay-Z’s “lyrical prowess.” He said the rapper is exploring contemporary black culture and that his rap songs confront timely issues like racial, gender and economic inequality.

Dyson has also made Jay-Z’s book “Decoded” required reading and hit students with both a midterm and final exam in Jay-Z-ology.

While the chairman of Georgetown’s sociology department defends the class, outraged students like junior Stephen Wu have called it “poppycock” and said serious scholars should be delving into Homer not Shawn Carter (Jay-Z’s real name).

“The great bard inclines toward the divine; he brings to light much of the character of human nature and puts man in communion with higher things,” Wu sniffed in the Georgetown campus newspaper, The Hoya. “Rap music frolics in the gutter, resplendent in vulgarity and the most crass of man’s wants.”

Other critics contend Dyson is giving a pass to a rapper who made his bones with raunchy lyrics that ripped women as greedy gold diggers in songs like “Big Pimpin’.”

Jay-Z, who is now happily married to Beyonce — and expecting their first child, has said he regrets writing those words.

“I can’t believe I said that,” he told the Wall Street Journal last year. “And kept saying it. What kind of animal would say this sort of thing?”

Jay-Z is not the first star to be the subject of a serious college class. There are a number of courses devoted to the words and music of The Beatles, Bruce Springsteen and others.

Nor is Jay-Z the first artist to be dismissed as too nasty for serious study. The same was said of poet Allen Ginsberg, whose epic poem “Howl” was deemed obscene when it first appeared in the 1950s, and is now taught in English classes.

csiemaszko@nydailynews.com

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Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Michael Dyson fails with this one.:smh:
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

A whole semester of Jay-Z with a Jigga-related mid-term and final???!!!

As a parent, all I gotta say is this...

Georgetown costs about $1500 a credit hour.

A full semester class is 3 credit hours.

That's $4500 of MY hard earned cash literally pissed away by Michael Eric Dyson.

:smh:

No way in hell I pay for some info my kid can get off WSHH
 
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Other critics contend Dyson is giving a pass to a rapper who made his bones with raunchy lyrics that ripped women as greedy gold diggers in songs like “Big Pimpin’.”

Jay-Z, who is now happily married to Beyonce — and expecting their first child, has said he regrets writing those words.

“I can’t believe I said that,” he told the Wall Street Journal last year. “And kept saying it. What kind of animal would say this sort of thing?”

jigga man is officially a sell out.
now that he got in with those white folks, he wants to run from is past...:smh::smh:

pathetic.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

A whole semester of Jay-Z with a Jigga-related mid-term and final???!!!

As a parent, all I gotta say is this...

Georgetown costs about $1500 a credit hour.

A full semester class is 3 credit hours.

That's $4500 of MY hard earned cash literally pissed away by Michael Eric Dyson.

:smh:

dawg, colleges and universities are filled with worthless stupid courses.

this ain't the only one.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

dawg, colleges and universities are filled with worthless stupid courses.

this ain't the only one.

Dog, a history of Hip-Hop class, I can see, even a study of a few prominent artists, but a semester of Jigga??!! Liberal arts classes are required, but c'mon son, a semester of studying one rapper??!! And not his business career, but his lyrics (the cat is not known for his deep lyrical content)?

If nothing else, it's a half-assed lesson plan. If dude doesn't have the time to put together a coherent lesson plan for his classes because he's too busy dropping books and doing speaking engagements, then he needs to take his ass on a sabbatical.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

A whole semester of Jay-Z with a Jigga-related mid-term and final???!!!

As a parent, all I gotta say is this...

Georgetown costs about $1500 a credit hour.

A full semester class is 3 credit hours.

That's $4500 of MY hard earned cash literally pissed away by Michael Eric Dyson.

:smh:

No way in hell I pay for some info my kid can get off WSHH

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Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

jay-z is the definition of hiphop capitalism and entrepreneurship.

he's the reason that most of your kids dream of having their own companies when 20 years ago the dream was to get a nice six figure job and a parking spot.

even though he's an asshole i give the man his props.

plus, nobody is forcing the kids to take the course.

if there are courses on elvis, lady gaga and star trek and shit like that then whats wrong with this?
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Dog, a history of Hip-Hop class, I can see, even a study of a few prominent artists, but a semester of Jigga??!! Liberal arts classes are required, but c'mon son, a semester of studying one rapper??!! And not his business career, but his lyrics (the cat is not known for his deep lyrical content)?

If nothing else, it's a half-assed lesson plan. If dude doesn't have the time to put together a coherent lesson plan for his classes because he's too busy dropping books and doing speaking engagements, then he needs to take his ass on a sabbatical.

This course gives ammo to Dyson's critics who have claimed all along that he's nothing more than a pimp and snake oil salesman trying to make a profit on the next hot thing in pop culture.

Heaven help me if he pens a book on Jigga.:smh:
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

A whole semester of Jay-Z with a Jigga-related mid-term and final???!!!

As a parent, all I gotta say is this...

Georgetown costs about $1500 a credit hour.

A full semester class is 3 credit hours.

That's $4500 of MY hard earned cash literally pissed away by Michael Eric Dyson.

:smh:

No way in hell I pay for some info my kid can get off WSHH
Real talk. I would have a fuckin' fit. If I wanted to piss off money, I can think of better ways than paying for a semister in Jigga-nomics.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Dyson just wants the publicity.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

you old dudes are really full of shit man.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

jigga man is officially a sell out.
now that he got in with those white folks, he wants to run from is past...:smh::smh:

pathetic.

It s called growing up and reflecting
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Ya'll some lames, and while yall set back and hate your silently saying hip-hop is not an art comparable to whatever cac's say. Rapping is art form and if you know anything about jigga you would know he took it seriously. There should be courses with KRS, eminem, Andre 3000 etc. You niggas should have more respect for the culture, its just not niggas rapping on the corner spitting jibberish. I bet if there was a course on Miles Davis nobody would even think twice but sinces its hip hop its not art.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Ya'll some lames, and while yall set back and hate your silently saying hip-hop is not an art comparable to whatever cac's say. Rapping is art form and if you know anything about jigga you would know he took it seriously. There should be courses with KRS, eminem, Andre 3000 etc. You niggas should have more respect for the culture, its just not niggas rapping on the corner spitting jibberish. I bet if there was a course on Miles Davis nobody would even think twice but sinces its hip hop its not art.

That is complete and utter bullshit dog. I grew up on hip-hop. You young cats look at it as a fun course to take in school because you could give two shits about how you waste your parents money. That shit is a waste of credit ours and credit hours translate to CASH.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Ive got mixed feelings on this. I like the idea of people understanding what hip hop represents and formal classes makes people take is seriously ....it is more than just the music...but a whole SEMESTER solely on Jay Z? lol... for real?
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

That is complete and utter bullshit dog. I grew up on hip-hop. You young cats look at it as a fun course to take in school because you could give two shits about how you waste your parents money. That shit is a waste of credit ours and credit hours translate to CASH.

Perhaps a waste of credit hours, but doesn't defeat the fact that hip-hop is art and there isn't anything wrong with studying it. The fact that hip-hop says a lot of bad things at times doesn't make it less of an art. There are many artist worth studying....A lot of things you kids will study in school are way more deadly than studying hip-hop...
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Ive got mixed feelings on this. I like the idea of people understanding what hip hop represents and formal classes makes people take is seriously ....it is more than just the music...but a whole SEMESTER solely on Jay Z? lol... for real?

i mean.. they have whole semesters on lady gaga, elvis and basket weaving...why not?
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

That is complete and utter bullshit dog. I grew up on hip-hop. You young cats look at it as a fun course to take in school because you could give two shits about how you waste your parents money. That shit is a waste of credit ours and credit hours translate to CASH.

you take it as an elective along with some of the other filler bullshit you are forced to take. i'd rather take this than something i have no interest at all in.

in fact i wish there were more courses on black people, musicians, artists and other influential figures.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

i mean.. they have whole semesters on lady gaga, elvis and basket weaving...why not?

im out of the loop.... there are entire semesters on fucking lady gaga :confused::confused::confused:

well carry on then....
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

im out of the loop.... there are entire semesters on fucking lady gaga :confused::confused::confused:

well carry on then....

http://www.cas.sc.edu/socy/faculty/deflem/gaga.html

The course analyzes the following selection of themes in the sociology of popular culture and fame.

Part I – Analytical Framework: The Sociology of Popular Culture
a) Sociological Perspectives of Music
b) The Sociology of Pop & Rock
c) Fame and Celebrity as Social Facts

Part II – Topic of Inquiry: An Introduction to Lady Gaga
a) Life and Times
b) The Music (incl. videos & performances)

Part III – Dimensions of Analysis: The Fame of Lady Gaga
a) Business and Marketing
b) Law and Legalities
c) Media: From Radio to Internet
d) Fans and Live Shows
e) Gay Culture
f) Religion and Politics
g) Sex, Gender, and Sexuality
h) New York (& Hollywood)
 
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wtf :smh::confused::(:hmm::lol:

` Within a framework of the sociology of popular culture and music, this lecture-based course focuses on societal elements in the rise of Lady Gaga’s popularity to her global status as a pop music icon.`

repacking madonna for this era is worthy of a semester?..smh...damn...
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

That is complete and utter bullshit dog. I grew up on hip-hop. You young cats look at it as a fun course to take in school because you could give two shits about how you waste your parents money. That shit is a waste of credit ours and credit hours translate to CASH.
KNOW THIS! Its easy to say shit like that when he's not paying for the courses. A course in hip-hop history is questionable but understandable. A course on Jay-Z is some bullshit.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

A course in hip-hop history is questionable

:smh::smh:

the turtleneck gang is killin me.

hiphop is damn near the most powerful phenomena that the world has ever seen. from the bronx to global in less than 30 years.

how is understanding that considered questionable?
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

I think as a people we are quick to call a bluff on our own inventions. Hip Hop is an art of a big stature. It is a phenomenon. And there is absolutely nothing wrong to study one of the top gurus who helped shaped the art. I am not particularly interested in Jay Z, but the idea isn't bad.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

A whole semester of Jay-Z with a Jigga-related mid-term and final???!!!

As a parent, all I gotta say is this...

Georgetown costs about $1500 a credit hour.

A full semester class is 3 credit hours.

That's $4500 of MY hard earned cash literally pissed away by Michael Eric Dyson.

:smh:

No way in hell I pay for some info my kid can get off WSHH

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Well, some colleges have a Tupac course and some have graffit art courses as well so i don't know.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Ya'll some lames, and while yall set back and hate your silently saying hip-hop is not an art comparable to whatever cac's say. Rapping is art form and if you know anything about jigga you would know he took it seriously. There should be courses with KRS, eminem, Andre 3000 etc. You niggas should have more respect for the culture, its just not niggas rapping on the corner spitting jibberish. I bet if there was a course on Miles Davis nobody would even think twice but sinces its hip hop its not art.

The fact that you would even compare Miles davis to some Nursery rhymes over a beat says a lot.:smh::smh:

Genocidal nursery rhymes written by jewish slaves isnt shit, and nobody who arent complete culture vultures(Jews and CACs) or idiots(Jews, CACS, Bottom tier from everybody else) will ever respect it as anything more.
 
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http://www.cas.sc.edu/socy/faculty/deflem/gaga.html


The course analyzes the following selection of themes in the sociology of popular culture and fame.

Part I – Analytical Framework: The Sociology of Popular Culture
a) Sociological Perspectives of Music
b) The Sociology of Pop & Rock
c) Fame and Celebrity as Social Facts

Part II – Topic of Inquiry: An Introduction to Lady Gaga
a) Life and Times
b) The Music (incl. videos & performances)

Part III – Dimensions of Analysis: The Fame of Lady Gaga
a) Business and Marketing
b) Law and Legalities
c) Media: From Radio to Internet
d) Fans and Live Shows
e) Gay Culture
f) Religion and Politics
g) Sex, Gender, and Sexuality
h) New York (& Hollywood)

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Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Jay-Z is lyrical? I always thought his delivery/flow was dope... biggie was lyrical... Must be old :dunno:
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

The fact that you would even compare Miles davis to some Nursery rhymes over a beat says a lot.:smh::smh:

Genocidal nursery rhymes written by jewish slaves isnt shit, and nobody who arent complete culture vultures(Jews and CACs) or idiots(Jews, CACS, Bottom tier from everybody else) will ever respect it as anything more.

your opinions on anything race related are irrelevant though. ur more confused than halo.
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Just proving that you turtleneck niggas are the worst.

3 credit class on Elvis.
INART 200 (GA) The Popular Arts in America: Elvis Presley - The King of Rock and Roll (3) The significance and influence of Elvis Presley as an artist and cultural force focusing on his recordings and major performances.
http://bulletins.psu.edu/bulletins/...ns.cfm?letter=I&courselong=INART|200|200607SP

or

How about University of Alabama at Birmingham, “Harry Potter: Ethics and Imagina”

or

HONR 172 - Maple Syrup: The Real Thing

yes a class about maple fucking syrup. do you see how stupid it is to hate on a course about one of the most successful black men in the country taught by another successful black man when there is a course on elvis, harry potter and making some gotdamn syrup?
 
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Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

so wheres the onion link


A whole semester of Jay-Z with a Jigga-related mid-term and final???!!!

As a parent, all I gotta say is this...

Georgetown costs about $1500 a credit hour.

A full semester class is 3 credit hours.

That's $4500 of MY hard earned cash literally pissed away by Michael Eric Dyson.

:smh:

No way in hell I pay for some info my kid can get off WSHH


couldnt put it any better



Just proving that you turtleneck niggas are the worst.

3 credit class on Elvis.
INART 200 (GA) The Popular Arts in America: Elvis Presley - The King of Rock and Roll (3) The significance and influence of Elvis Presley as an artist and cultural force focusing on his recordings and major performances.
http://bulletins.psu.edu/bulletins/...ns.cfm?letter=I&courselong=INART|200|200607SP

or

How about University of Alabama at Birmingham, “Harry Potter: Ethics and Imagina”

or

HONR 172 - Maple Syrup: The Real Thing

yes a class about maple fucking syrup. do you see how stupid it is to hate on a course about one of the most successful black men in the country taught by another successful black man when there is a course on elvis, harry potter and making some gotdamn syrup?


they need to get rid of that shit along with this fuckery
them bullshit courses serve no purpose other than bleed money from the government and/or some bank byway of some shitty loan
all that crap is the kind of stuff ur supposed to learn on ur own ( like most of them bullshit courses and majors out there )
an i coulda swore colleges arent supposed to just let the students wander around fallin into profit driven traps that they set for the kids

but this is just too crazy for me to take seriously so i'm just gonna assume theres an onion link in there somewhere that i didnt see an u niggas c/s this are just bein sarcastic
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

Jay-Z is lyrical? I always thought his delivery/flow was dope... biggie was lyrical... Must be old :dunno:



an this
of all the rappers to go in depth as far as lyrics they pick jay
examining dudes business moves maybe but for lyrics
fuck outta here

fuck kinda bizzaro world i'm in right now:smh:
 
Re: Hip-hop hoorays and nays for Jay-Z college course that studies his 'lyrical prowe

so wheres the onion link





couldnt put it any better






they need to get rid of that shit along with this fuckery
them bullshit courses serve no purpose other than bleed money from the government and/or some bank byway of some shitty loan
all that crap is the kind of stuff ur supposed to learn on ur own ( like most of them bullshit courses and majors out there )
an i coulda swore colleges arent supposed to just let the students wander around fallin into profit driven traps that they set for the kids

but this is just too crazy for me to take seriously so i'm just gonna assume theres an onion link in there somewhere that i didnt see an u niggas c/s this are just bein sarcastic

:lol::lol::lol:

real talk
 
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