Hillary To Attend State Of Black America

[Dkounciler]

WHY ATTEND NOW?

The game of politics and its manipulative edge. Was she invited to be there by Tavis? This is a way for her to control the landscape of the campaign right now.

1.Free publicity at the expense of this conference
2.Manipulate Barack into a third debate amongst the participants at the symposium when he said he would only do two. If he declines to be baited into the situation, he's setup as not caring enough about Black issues to participate Thats some cunning shit. Thats a setup to get Blacks to disconnect and follow "the great white hope". Damn these people playing for keeps.

Don't sleep!

 

[gene cisco]

Of all the Obama doubters, I respect your and Black HHH's posts the most.

At least you've reviewed his record in making your decision, whether I agree with your conclusion or not.

I do hope you will cast a vote tho even if it is a write-in.

Yeah, at first I thought a write in was joke, but at least I would make my voice heard since I support none of the candidates forced on me.

I try not to come like a "hater" and voice why I think he is just another "tool", but it isnt the voters fault, they just react to what the media gives them, we must want and demand more.

Obama supporters usually have good intentions, but they are just clouded by the fact he is "slightly" different than his opponents, not enough for me!!!!!!!!

I do say, if any obama supporter believes with a straight face that bush committed no crimes, they should vote for obama, if they believe bush committed crimes, they shouldnt give him their vote, maybe in 12 we wont have centrists running for nomination if we speak the fuck up, cause this country needs a serious wheel turn.

 

[BDR]

 

[RoyalKing718]

WTF is wrong with TAVIS SMILEY and his ragtag out-of-touch do nothing, talk all day, bunch of so-called leaders doing???

State of Black America

WHY IN THE WORLD DOES SOBA HAVE A Hillary (WHITE LADY) ATTENDING THERE MEETING on black america??

I hope they at least ask her tough questions (which I doubt they will, they are the bunch that love to talk shit about white people, yet bow down the first chance they get.)

Its like sabotage. They should stay nuetral, at least until it is more clear who will be the nominee. They must still hold belief that OBAMA cant win and are edging their bets with the hillary campaign.

WHAT R UR THOUGHTS??


WHAT HAS SOBA EVER ACHIEVED. THEY SIT AROUND TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING, but does nothing.

I DONT KNOW ABOUT YALL, but Im tired of these do-nothing so called leaders. Trying to stop a man that can actually affect change. I guess they hate to see someone actually do what they have only talked about for years, so they are hating.

I never elected any of them as my leaders. NOT ONCE. The first chance I get to actually elect my leader, now they pull this shit. I will never forgive these M*****F**kers if they cause OBAMA to lose.

We have been talking about change forever, we finally get a chance to actually to do it or at least move closer towards it. And now our out-of-touch so-called leaders are buckling under pressure.

Can someone explains this to me. Does Tavis owe a favor? Have they been promised something?

 

[Mask]

I don't disagree. The whole internet saw it go down and how silly it looked. I don't know for a fact if Tavis has "beef" or not. Really I couldn't give a shit if he did because Farrakhan has been laid down the answer for all this bullshit.

The year before that one at Eddie Longs church he asked the people what good is a contract with a person who doesn't intend to honor their end of it?

yea i saw that shit, got hyped after that, he kinda put all of them on blast, that day...

Yeah, man, I would have loved to feel the energy of that crowd that day, I only heard the raucous cheers on C-SPAN for what Farrakhan was saying. You're right SOBA has jumped the shark, unfortunately. Too bad they don't refuse corporate sponsorship and then invite the more radical elements of the Black community in for a real discussion of where we are heading as Black folks.

just think if more people would back what he says, saw the one with the book, shit bout to go search for last year's on youtube

 

[Mask]

yea this shit is fire

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/FiEKS5iPtDs[/flash]

 

[Blaq]

It befuddles the fuck out me how anyone could see how the Clintons race baited in S.C. and would still consider voting for them. That's what really trips me the fuck out.

We need to wake the fuck up. Although, i'm guessing Obama probably would've gotten 65-70% instead of 80+% of the black vote in SC had that not have happened. Good to know some of us came to our senses. Those like Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel, etc. know better and I hope in the future they're held accountable for their current actions.

Great thread. Makk & Dale Mabry great posts as always.

 

[Ultramagnetic]

How hard is it to Google, Wikipedia or type www.barackobama.com and find out?

Thank you. I've gotten sick and tired of hearing that 'but all he does is speeches" bullshit. Cats want people to come to them and present themselves but won't take the fucking time to do a little research for themselves. Other than 35 yrs of 'experience' and "universal health care' *which won't work* WTF does HIllary stand for? I mean thats all I hear from her. And Tavis needs to fall back. I noticed that Cornell West Is supporting Obama as is Jesse Sr. and Jesse Jr. also the mayor of atlanta and a few others on that list. I think they know that if Obama shows up He runs the risk of being further seen as just a black candidate. While its Obvious that Hillary is only going for PR and to try and repair the damage Bill did. And if she cared so much about Blacks Why wasn't she there last year? I mean if Tavis can bitch about Obama not being there then why not put the other candidates on blast?

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

Farakhan should be there to tear into that ass! No way Hillary wants to share the stage with Farrakhan at this stage in her campaign. Blacks may admire her volunteering to share the stage with Farrakhan, but Jews/White folks, John McCain and the media (especially Fox News) will crucify her if she doesn't 100% condemn Farrakhan to his face. A move that will result in Farrakhan unleashing the hounds on her monkey ass. Win or lose, she can't win.

 

[Mask]

Farakhan should be there to tear into that ass! No way Hillary wants to share the stage with Farrakhan at this stage in her campaign. Blacks may admire her volunteering to share the stage with Farrakhan, but Jews/White folks, John McCain and the media (especially Fox News) will crucify her if she doesn't 100% condemn Farrakhan to his face. A move that will result in Farrakhan unleashing the hounds on her monkey ass. Win or lose, she can't win.

if she would put her self in that type of environment with him being there, i would think that she's really trying to win over the people(black), I really doubt it's likely to happen, but we have to wait.....

 

[football]

funny how when election time comes around they want to start attending all these black functions. Why not do that when you dont need votes

 

[DANGEROUSBLACKMAN]

 

[DjMorpheus]

yea this shit is fire

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/FiEKS5iPtDs[/flash]

The ONLY way she showin up is she has Tavis word that Farrakahn won't be there. If she shows up and Farrakhan ain't there U know wassup.

 

[Spectrum]

yea this shit is fire

Tavis' facial expressions are priceless

 

[d_the_inc]

THIS IS WHY I SUPPORT HER. SHE RESPECTS BLACK PEOPLE AND WOULD DO GOOD BY US. BARACK WOULD NOT HAVE COME, BUT NOW I AM SURE THAT HE WILL YA'LL BLIND AS A MUTHAF**KA.

Not offense homey...but this is a high stake chess game...She needs to attend, she has all to gain. BO...does not to validate himself through this medium...as of matter of fact...it's wise for him to avoid it...This shit is chess not checkers (I need an assist with the Training Day gif)

 

[geechiedan]

If anything Obama needs to attend any latino events or conferences happening around the country..

 

[NinjaspiT]

bla bla bla

 

[geechiedan]

WTF is wrong with TAVIS SMILEY and his ragtag out-of-touch do nothing, talk all day, bunch of so-called leaders doing???

State of Black America

WHY IN THE WORLD DOES SOBA HAVE A Hillary (WHITE LADY) ATTENDING THERE MEETING on black america??

I hope they at least ask her tough questions (which I doubt they will, they are the bunch that love to talk shit about white people, yet bow down the first chance they get.)

Its like sabotage. They should stay nuetral, at least until it is more clear who will be the nominee. They must still hold belief that OBAMA cant win and are edging their bets with the hillary campaign.

WHAT R UR THOUGHTS??


WHAT HAS SOBA EVER ACHIEVED. THEY SIT AROUND TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING, but does nothing.

I DONT KNOW ABOUT YALL, but Im tired of these do-nothing so called leaders. Trying to stop a man that can actually affect change. I guess they hate to see someone actually do what they have only talked about for years, so they are hating.

I never elected any of them as my leaders. NOT ONCE. The first chance I get to actually elect my leader, now they pull this shit. I will never forgive these M*****F**kers if they cause OBAMA to lose.

We have been talking about change forever, we finally get a chance to actually to do it or at least move closer towards it. And now our out-of-touch so-called leaders are buckling under pressure.

Can someone explains this to me. Does Tavis owe a favor? Have they been promised something?

1. They can have on anyone they want...its a free country (or so I'm told)

2. Hillary has black supporters and many of them so its not like she has to convince anyone to vote for her..this is her endorsement.

3. they CAN'T...CAN NOT..ARE NOT CAPABLE OF...causing Obama to lose the nomination...IF obama doesn't get the nomination it won't be because if lack of black support...so stop looking for black people as the culprit

 

[Makkonnen]

How bout obama saying yes to the patriot act instead of letting it die.

How about obama saying bush hasnt committed any grave wrong doings.

How bout obama voting against immediate troop withdrawing?

I just cannot take a man seriously when every BGOL'er knows bush has violated many laws, international and national.

I cannot take a man seriously, when we know 9/11 could have been stopped with current tools of law enforcement and no patriot act, modified or otherwise is needed.(we all know how law enforcment uses crooked tactics to get legit info, its just hey way it is. A legal upgrade makes for police state).

The votes would be better explained by the actual resolutions.
The Bush thing is about him not sounding like a bitch. He talks steady shit about Bush but do you really think he's going to sick the attorney general on Cheney and Bush if he's pres? Do you really think Hillary will? I think she might want to if it suits her political goals otherwise she couldnt give a fuck.

Good points though. Obama is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from perfect and far from my first choice but he's secretly waaaaaaaaaaaaay more liberal than he lets on. Repubs know this. Shillary knows this.

 

[The Lawnmower Man]

Why don't you tell us how you're a gynecologist and Hillary's hymen is intact?

 

[teetha304]

THIS IS WHY I SUPPORT HER. SHE RESPECTS BLACK PEOPLE AND WOULD DO GOOD BY US. BARACK WOULD NOT HAVE COME, BUT NOW I AM SURE THAT HE WILL YA'LL BLIND AS A MUTHAF**KA.

You blind dog, Obama not trying to turn this into race thing it's up to us to support him so it can be easier on our kids to be President of the United States and hold various other positions him seating in this seat will open up all kinds of doors for people of color. We need to support his ideas of equality, dont vote for her because her husband had a good run vote her because of what she can do for you and your kids future dog.

 

[HAR125LEM]

...Mental circle jerks with the likes of Cornell West are nice for passing the time but have added up to next to nothing in actual on the ground movements that actually help those in need.

"Mental Circle Jerks" is the GREATEST term I've seen on BGOL ever. Especially as an apt description of these SOBA cats. I do watch these Tavis Smiley extravaganzas when I can now. I don't make way for them like I used to.

Because most of those folks up on those stages I truly believe make money off our misery. Talk the same SHIT year after year. Black folks whoopin' and hollerin'. Shit's a side-show now.

Average Black folks need to stop looking for these SOBA participants to be our saviors. We need to (re)start grassroot efforts to deal with our pains. Because most of these SOBA folks have lost touch.

 

[Makkonnen]

bump

 

[Rtu456]

A white feminist has no place at the State of Black America.
Just days ago she discredited MLK and she's been throwing race jabs at Barack Obama who has a chance to be the first black president.
I have a lot of respect for Tavis Smiley but but she doesn't belong.

Exactly.

And after how Hillary denigrated MLK and the Civil Rights Movement collectively she has absolutely no business being at the SOBA. And the fact that Hillary is only getting 15% of the Black vote shows just how disgusted most black people are with her and how much they support Obama given that he's now getting around 85%+ of that vote.

 

[Lattimore]

IT'S ABOUT TO GET DEEP. THIS GUY, OBAMA, DON'T KNOW WHAT HE IS ABOUT TO GET HIMSELF IN....HE GOT A LOT OF SHIT THAT CAN COME OUT.....BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR

I've read quite a few post regarding Obama Clinton and the election in general, not one time have you presented a solid argument without bias. Furthermore your opinion is always negative and antagonistic... I see why people have you on ignore.

I've chosen to quote the above load of shit comment, as opposed to the countless other load of shit comments, bc it perfectly illustrates how bias you are. Logic would suggest that from this point on everyone involved in the race is going to face more intense scrutiny... the negative aspect of your comment, of course, was reserved for Obama. If you were just a Hillary supporter I wouldn't have a problem with your ignorant shit... the fact that you use your support for Hillary as a reason to attack of Obama makes me wonder whether your real bias is against Obama or black people in general.

 

[Zero]

I've read quite a few post regarding Obama Clinton and the election in general, not one time have you presented a solid argument without bias. Furthermore your opinion is always negative and antagonistic... I see why people have you on ignore.

I've chosen to quote the above load of shit comment, as opposed to the countless other load of shit comments, bc it perfectly illustrates how bias you are. Logic would suggest that from this point on everyone involved in the race is going to face more intense scrutiny... the negative aspect of your comment, of course, was reserved for Obama. If you were just a Hillary supporter I wouldn't have a problem with your ignorant shit... the fact that you use your support for Hillary as a reason to attack of Obama makes me wonder whether your real bias is against Obama or black people in general.

His sole purpose is to draw the attention of other men by any means necessary.

 

[Makkonnen]

Exactly.

And after how Hillary denigrated MLK and the Civil Rights Movement collectively she has absolutely no business being at the SOBA. And the fact that Hillary is only getting 15% of the Black vote shows just how disgusted most black people are with her and how much they support Obama given that he's now getting around 85%+ of that vote.

That number is down to 10% after yesterday. That isn't the point of inviting the candidates though. The point is inviting politicians to see if they will address the needs of the black community as it is represented in the SOTBU conference. Unfortunately for Tavis, he hasn't realized that he and his other speakers do not actually represent the black community and so days after his conference is over, so is his mandate and ability to act. The shit is a fucking joke.

The fact Hillary wants to attend is proof positive it is a joke. Watch and see who asks her about the numerous racial games her campaign has played.

Tavis needs to realize he isn't MLK and Hillary isn't Johnson. Getting a powerless Washington shill on board for your powerless convention of bullshitters(most not all) is a colossal waste of fucking time.

 

[magnetic god]

Mental circle jerks with the likes of Cornell West are nice for passing the time but have added up to next to nothing in actual on the ground movements that actually help those in need.

Could not agree more.

 

[magnetic god]

That number is down to 10% after yesterday. That isn't the point of inviting the candidates though. The point is inviting politicians to see if they will address the needs of the black community as it is represented in the SOTBU conference. Unfortunately for Tavis, he hasn't realized that he and his other speakers do not actually represent the black community and so days after his conference is over, so is his mandate and ability to act. The shit is a fucking joke.

The fact Hillary wants to attend is proof positive it is a joke. Watch and see who asks her about the numerous racial games her campaign has played.

Tavis needs to realize he isn't MLK and Hillary isn't Johnson. Getting a powerless Washington shill on board for your powerless convention of bullshitters(most not all) is a colossal waste of fucking time.

..brother you are on fire today! good post and good thread.

 

[Makkonnen]

for the past 7 years we've been under a president who probably didn't see a real black person until adulthood. this particular state of the black provides a platform to say, if you want OUR votes, this is OUR agenda, we want it to move foward.

Just so you know Mobutu was ultratight with Bush Sr since his CIA days. Mobutu's kids were like part of the Bush family and used to spend summers with them. Bush Sr also put billions in Mobutu's pockets. Its not racial - its moral.

 

[Zero]

Just so you know Mobutu was ultratight with Bush Sr since his CIA days. Mobutu's kids were like part of the Bush family and used to spend summers with them. Bush Sr also put billions in Mobutu's pockets. Its not racial - its moral.

Not to mention the fact that the SOTBU's influence is NOWHERE NEAR wide enough in the black community to make a statement like that. Tavis only speaks for himself, not the entire panel or the entire race. I'm sure the contrubutors to SOTBU that aren't on an ego trip right now understand that Obama has other priorities as a candidate for president.

 

[Makkonnen]

Not to mention the fact that the SOTBU's influence is NOWHERE NEAR wide enough in the black community to make a statement like that. Tavis only speaks for himself, not the entire panel or the entire race. I'm sure the contrubutors to SOTBU that aren't on an ego trip right now understand that Obama has other priorities as a candidate for president.

Pretty much. The whole episode screams of political ineptitude. Why alienate someone clearly a friend to your cause? Their group has no power to help or hurt Obama so why act like it does? Tavis might find himself playing the role of Sista Souljah if he pushes this bullshit.

The shit that started me off having issues with Tavis years ago was him going on this national tour with Cornell West discussing black politics. I was like cool this should be great especially in a city like Atlanta. Then I found out dude was charging 50- 75 bucks or some shit just to get in the door. How the fuck are you getting your message to the people - the people most in need - charging shit like that? That isn't a people's campaign. The black people who need political empowerment don't have 50 bones to drop on those mufuckas.

This whole thing just seems a little stupid.

 

[Zero]

Pretty much. The whole episode screams of political ineptitude. Why alienate someone clearly a friend to your cause? Their group has no power to help or hurt Obama so why act like it does? Tavis might find himself playing the role of Sista Souljah if he pushes this bullshit.

The shit that started me off having issues with Tavis years ago was him going on this national tour with Cornell West discussing black politics. I was like cool this should be great especially in a city like Atlanta. Then I found out dude was charging 50- 75 bucks or some shit just to get in the door. How the fuck are you getting your message to the people - the people most in need - charging shit like that? That isn't a people's campaign. The black people who need political empowerment don't have 50 bones to drop on those mufuckas.

This whole thing just seems a little stupid.

Yeah, it's kinda childish and I agree that having a forum that is supposed to benefit the most needy among us and then pricing those same folks out the door is counter-productive.

 

[Damn Right]

THIS IS WHY I SUPPORT HER. SHE RESPECTS BLACK PEOPLE AND WOULD DO GOOD BY US. BARACK WOULD NOT HAVE COME, BUT NOW I AM SURE THAT HE WILL YA'LL BLIND AS A MUTHAF**KA.

FUK YO POST!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Makkonnen]

Yeah, it's kinda childish and I agree that having a forum that is supposed to benefit the most needy among us and then pricing those same folks out the door is counter-productive.

Seriously its like, what is worth more to you- the usual donothing bullshit of the SOTBU or having a Black President who is wooing America on some FDR/JFK shit?