Here’s The Crazy Story About Thanksgiving You’ve Never Heard

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Especially the parts about Squanto the “friendly Indian.”

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This image from “Young Folks’ History of the United States,” published in 1903, is typical of depictions of the Thanksgiving story at the time.


The Thanksgiving story you know probably goes a bit like this: English Pilgrims, seeking religious freedom, landed in Plymouth, Massachusetts, where they found a rich land full of animals and were greeted by a friendly Indian named Squanto, who taught them how to plant corn.

The true story is more complicated. Once you learn about the real Squanto — also known as Tisquantum — you’ll have a great yarn to tell your family over the Thanksgiving table.

I asked historian Charles Mann, the author of 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus, and Paula Peters, a member of the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe and an expert on Wampanoag history, to tell me the real story.

“This is not revisionist history,” Peters promised. “This is history that’s just been overlooked because people have become very, very comfortable with the story of happy Pilgrims and friendly Indians. They’re very content with that — even to the point where no one really questioned how is it that Squanto knew how to speak perfect English when they came.”

Here’s what really happened.

In 1614, six years before the Pilgrims landed in modern-day Massachusetts, an Englishman named Thomas Hunt kidnapped Tisquantum from his village, Patuxet, which was part of a group of villages known as the Wampanoag confederation. (Europeans had started visiting the northeast of what is now the United States by the 1520s, and probably as early as the 1480s.)

Hunt took Tisquantum and around two dozen other kidnapped Wampanoag to Spain, where he tried to sell them into slavery.

“It caused quite a commotion when this guy showed up trying to sell these people,” Mann said. “A bunch of people in the church said no way.”

Tisquantum escaped slavery — with the help of Catholic friars, according to some accounts — then somehow found his way to England.

He finally made it back to what is now Massachusetts in 1619. As far as historians can tell, Tisquantum was the only one of the kidnapped Wampanoags to ever return to North America, Peters notes.

As far as historians can tell, Tisquantum was the only one of the kidnapped Wampanoags to ever return to North America.
But while Tisquantum was in Europe, an epidemic had swept across New England.

“The account that’s recorded by Gov. Bradford of Plymouth Plantation is that there’s a shipwreck of French sailors that year on Cape Cod,” Mann said. “One of them carried some disease and it wiped out a huge percentage of the population in coastal new England. ... The guess is it was some kind of viral hepatitis, which is easily communicated in water. It exploded like chains of firecrackers.”

When Tisquantum returned to Patuxet, he found that he was the village’s only survivor.

“Into this bumbled the Pilgrims,” Mann said. “They had shown up in New England a few weeks before winter. ... Up until the Pilgrims, the pattern had been pretty clear. Europeans would show up, and Indians would be interested in their trade goods, but they were really uninterested in letting [Europeans] permanently occupy land.”

Often, armed native people would even force Europeans to leave if they attempted to stay too long.

This time, the Europeans wanted to stay, and the disease that had decimated Patuxet ensured that they had a place to settle.

“Patuxet ultimately becomes Plymouth,” Peters explained. “They find this cleared land and just the bones of the Indians. They called it divine providence: God killed these Indians so we could live here.”

A website Peters helped create for the 400th anniversary of the Pilgrims’ arrival puts it even more bluntly: “The graveyard of [Tisquantum’s] people became Plymouth Colony.”

Massasoit, a local Wampanoag leader, didn’t trust Tisquantum. “He looks at this guy and smells trouble,” Mann said. Massasoit kept Tisquantum under what was essentially house arrest until the Pilgrims showed up and promptly started starving to death.

Patuxet wasn’t the only native village decimated by the plague. The entire Wampanoag confederation had been badly hit — as much as 75 percent of the Wampanoag population was wiped out, Mann said. But the Narragansett, a rival neighboring group, basically weren’t affected by the disease at all. That put the Wampanoag in a precarious strategic position.

“The graveyard of his people became Plymouth Colony.”
Massasoit had an idea.

“He decides we’ll ally with these guys, set up a good trading relationship, control supply of English goods, and the Narragansett won’t be able to attack us,” Mann said.

On March 22, 1621, Massasoit went to meet with the Pilgrims. He brought Tisquantum along to translate.

Mann described the meeting in a 2005 article in Smithsonian Magazine:

Tisquantum most likely was not the name he was given at birth. In that part of the Northeast, tisquantum referred to rage, especially the rage of manitou, the world-suffusing spiritual power at the heart of coastal Indians’ religious beliefs. When Tisquantum approached the Pilgrims and identified himself by that sobriquet, it was as if he had stuck out his hand and said, “Hello, I’m the Wrath of God.”

Massasoit was right not to trust Tisquantum, who soon tried to pit the Pilgrims against him. But the plan didn’t work: Massasoit “is just pissed off and demands the Pilgrims hand him over because he’s gonna execute him,” Mann said.

The Pilgrims didn’t. Instead, Tisquantum stayed in the colony with them, helping them prepare for the next winter.

“Never did the newcomers ask themselves why he might be making himself essential,” Mann wrote in Smithsonian. “But from the Pilgrims’ accounts of their dealings with him, the answer seems clear: the alternative to staying in Plymouth was returning to Massasoit and renewed captivity.”

It’s all a lot more complicated — Machiavellian, even — than the story you might have learned. Mann in Smithsonianagain:

By fall the settlers’ situation was secure enough that they held a feast of thanksgiving. Massasoit showed up with “some ninety men,” Winslow later recalled, most of them with weapons. The Pilgrim militia responded by marching around and firing their guns in the air in a manner intended to convey menace. Gratified, both sides sat down, ate a lot of food and complained about the Narragansett. Ecce Thanksgiving.

So what does this all mean? “While it was by far not the first occasion of human trafficking conducted by European explorers to the new world, the capture of Squanto and his fellow tribesmen would forever alter the course of history for people on two continents,” Peters wrote on the anniversary website.

“We learn about Columbus landing in 1492 and it’s as if nothing happened for over 100 years until the Pilgrims landed,” Mann added. “But the Tisquantum story gives you this tiny peek into that all the people involved had been interacting for more than a century.”

And today, of course, the Wampanoag are still around.

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And they truly believed this too
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the main purpose of religion is to make u stop using your common sense as early in life as possible

once they get u in that lying contest (testifying)

and praise u for the most imaginative lies

logic and simple obvious attachment to reality is a thing of the past

of course those savages had to die to make way for good christian folk

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This lecture is fucking mind blowing!!! It even gives some perspective relating to coronavirus!!
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This lecture is fucking mind blowing!!! It even gives some perspective relating to coronavirus!!
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Thank you for this. Learned a bunch. I'm fascinated by Aztec and Mayan ruins. Some, like Cahal Pech, I can literally walk to and others a bit of a drive like Tikal. One thing that will get your attention immediately is how many clearly Black/African faces you see in the art work. I so wanna visit Machu Picchu but I hear so many nightmarish tales about the bus rides at the edge of cliffs. I know there is a train but not sure if it's equally terrifying. Once the Covid crap is over I'll likely just man up and be on my way.
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“They find this cleared land and just the bones of the Indians. They called it divine providence: God killed these Indians so we could live here.”

And they truly believed this to:smh:

Sad thing is, it's been working for them for hundreds of years now. Its called manifest destiny.

Our problem is we look to the God they created to do for us what he did for them but it's a conflict of interest.
 
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Sad thing is, it's been working for them for hundreds of years now. Its called manifest destiny.

Our problem is we look to the God they created to do for us what he did for them but it's a conflict of interest.
What keeps these negroes arms wrapped around that christian church I will never know. There is not a single thing any christian can prove came by way of their devotion to jesus. Not a single fuckin' thing in 2000 years!
 
The even bigger "Thanksgiving Story" that was never taught (at least it wasn't taught to me) was that these folks were US!!!








Cedric Cromwell (Running Bear) - Current Mashpee-Wampanoag Tribal Chief

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They've been in the New England area for at least 12,000 years. So the next time Kevin or Karen tells you to go back where you came from.............


 
That's not the story of thanksgiving, it's the story of a Native American and the mistreatment of other Native Americans.

The actual story of thanksgiving is surprise! a massacre of Native Americans.

Let me try to find the article.

~~one of many:
 
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That's not the story of thanksgiving, it's the story of a Native American and the mistreatment of other Native Americans.

The actual story of thanksgiving is surprise! a massacre of Native Americans.

Let me try to find the article.

And in addition how cacs truly came into power..

It wasn't about intellect or that bullshit

We came

We saw

We kicked its ass

No mutjafuckas

You came

You saw..

You spreaded your nasty diseases..filthy fuckas

Our antcestors had them in check

Untill the hybrid european Germanic

Disease carriers spreaded their filth

This social distancing and mask wearing is 400 years too late
 
And in addition how cacs truly came into power..

It wasn't about intellect or that bullshit

We came

We saw

We kicked its ass

No mutjafuckas

You came

You saw..

You spreaded your nasty diseases..filthy fuckas

Our antcestors had them in check

Untill the hybrid european Germanic

Disease carriers spreaded their filth

This social distancing and mask wearing is 400 years too late
Old news in this thread with posts you @roots69 and others have been saying for years.

At least OP is finally starting to wake up and maybe it will help the others that are lost. Better late than never.
 
That's not the story of thanksgiving, it's the story of a Native American and the mistreatment of other Native Americans.

The actual story of thanksgiving is surprise! a massacre of Native Americans.

Let me try to find the article.

~~one of many:

I bet cacs came up with that bullshit “pilgrims sat down together with the Indians to celebrate“ lie the very next year. With the Internet and how kids no more these days I hope they’re not still teaching that bullshit in schools. We should’ve been at least asking “WHAT HAPPENED TO THE INDIANS” when we were in school because most of us had never seen any
 
The even bigger "Thanksgiving Story" that was never taught (at least it wasn't taught to me) was that these folks were US!!!








Cedric Cromwell (Running Bear) - Current Mashpee-Wampanoag Tribal Chief

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Current Mashpee-Wampanoag

Mash-Wamp-1.jpg




Mash-Wamp-2.jpg




Mash-Wamp-3.jpg



Powwow-Princess-3.jpg




Powwow-Princess-2.jpg



Tribal-Princess-1.jpg



They've been in the New England area for at least 12,000 years. So the next time Kevin or Karen tells you to go back where you came from.............




I've been telling folks, copper color people have been here along and I mean along time!! What we've been told about the past is a true lie and azz backwards!! This colony spends billions yearly to keep ours folks misinformed, divided, confused and deep asleep. And sum of that money is given to people that look like us, to keep feeding the lie. But as usual, ain't nobody listening! So, the illusion carries on!!
 
And in addition how cacs truly came into power..

It wasn't about intellect or that bullshit

We came

We saw

We kicked its ass

No mutjafuckas

You came

You saw..

You spreaded your nasty diseases..filthy fuckas

Our antcestors had them in check

Untill the hybrid european Germanic

Disease carriers spreaded their filth

This social distancing and mask wearing is 400 years too late

Say it again.. This time scream it, so it can be heard!!
 
Old news in this thread with posts you @roots69 and others have been saying for years.

At least OP is finally starting to wake up and maybe it will help the others that are lost. Better late than never.

You got that right! Brotha..

The trance/dream is slowly coming to and end.. I knew it couldn't last for ever!! If our people would unplug from the tel lie vision and start reading, things would really start coming together!!

Anyway bruh, good azz reply!!
 
Thank you for this. Learned a bunch. I'm fascinated by Aztec and Mayan ruins. Some, like Cahal Pech, I can literally walk to and others a bit of a drive like Tikal. One thing that will get your attention immediately is how many clearly Black/African faces you see in the art work. I so wanna visit Machu Picchu but I hear so many nightmarish tales about the bus rides at the edge of cliffs. I know there is a train but not sure if it's equally terrifying. Once the Covid crap is over I'll likely just man up and be on my way.
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Bet.

This shit blew my mind because he's retracing the TRUE history of the US based on weather patterns, geology and archeological finds. It's crazy and has my questioning a lot now.
 
I’ve always told my family that the first Thanksgiving was when the white folks realized that they could chump the natives and Bogarde the land. And, it continues...
 
The even bigger "Thanksgiving Story" that was never taught (at least it wasn't taught to me) was that these folks were US!!!








Cedric Cromwell (Running Bear) - Current Mashpee-Wampanoag Tribal Chief

Cedric-Cromwell.jpg



Current Mashpee-Wampanoag

Mash-Wamp-1.jpg




Mash-Wamp-2.jpg




Mash-Wamp-3.jpg



Powwow-Princess-3.jpg




Powwow-Princess-2.jpg



Tribal-Princess-1.jpg



They've been in the New England area for at least 12,000 years. So the next time Kevin or Karen tells you to go back where you came from.............



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Hmm??? Y'all do know who the Indians are??? RIGHT???
Yeah tbise red. People that got fucked out of their land Was marched fir hundreds of miles in the freezing snow and wound up on reservations. Look in not going to argue about aboriginal natives etc but everytime y'all go into this we were the original natives shit y'all act like the red man never existed.
 
Yeah tbise red. People that got fucked out of their land Was marched fir hundreds of miles in the freezing snow and wound up on reservations. Look in not going to argue about aboriginal natives etc but everytime y'all go into this we were the original natives shit y'all act like the red man never existed.

The red man didn't arrive until the year slavery ended.. We're did they come from?? Can you say paris island on the emerald coast?? Anyway, I was lucky to have family members that shared history with me.. Not history from mcgraw and hill!! Or what ur colonist told you!! So go rub elbows with ur colonist and tell them how much you enjoy their misinformation and keep it coming!!
 
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