He-man Bgolians and conservative racists have one thing in common...both hate Lizzo for being fat, darkskin and having the audacity to do anything.
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This is a lot further back then the time I was originally referring to but I think shows my point pretty well.
Keep in mind some prehistoric brah took the time to carve this and didn't even bother finishing the face. It was all about the body.
Looks like the artist got tired of cutting and didn't wanna waste anymore clay!
Or maybe that's a voodoo doll to show what they did to fat women, which is cover their heads and throw them in the ocean!
TBH neither of our arguments were supported. You just posted your opinion and said most Americans agreed with it.
Prime Pinky was too fat to you?
It was supposedly a fertility idol.Looks like the artist got tired of cutting and didn't wanna waste anymore clay!
Or maybe that's a voodoo doll to show what they did to fat women, which is cover their heads and throw them in the ocean!
This is a lot further back then the time I was originally referring to but I think shows my point pretty well.
Keep in mind some prehistoric brah took the time to carve this and didn't even bother finishing the face. It was all about the body.
One prehistoric bgol caveman and one dude who painted fat chicks ("Rubenesque") does not say fat chicks was popular.
Yeah. I prefer a prime Kapri's body type.
Watch the video I posted above. Big women were preferred in the past.
What...her own concert???There's a time and a place for everything, that wasn't the time nor place to be dressed like this
And many time's that's the problem.
I'd say the same thing if Beyoncé or any other female artist was there dressed like that
Damn the hate for a black woman is strong
As Piff posted above, read up on the Venus of Willendorf. Although it's speculative as to what the original figurine was, most inferred that the larger exaggerated features represented fertility, abundance and child bearing.
Then a dude named Peter Paul Rueben gave us "Rubenesque women" shown with larger features on women and highlighted "realistic" depictions of middle aged women that he was accustomed to. These are two references normally mentioned when it comes to art and fat women and is covered in a lot of Art History courses. It was however, not the norm. In other cultures, being fat represented abundance of food or wealth because places were food was scarce, someone growing to such a large size was a luxury. It was never a "standard of beauty."
But like riches...it was something to aspire to..
I just did a little more research and Prime Pinky ain't as fat as I thought. I was probably thinking about her later work. That said, I still prefer a prime Kapri.
It's ok to prefer, but because someone isn't skin and bones doesn't make them fat.
And everyone's fat compared to her
What...her own concert???
Damn the hate for a black woman is strong
You're right, myself and every other member hates Black women to our cores!
That's why we're on a message board named BLACK Girl Online. You're trying too hard.
And the picture I posted is the one that came up, if it was incorrect then my bad.
We still didn't need to see her stomach oops look at me, Black woman and fat woman hate!
Let's all tell the truth BGOL to satisfy @geechiedan.
We ALL bought front row tickets to see
And we were
the entire time because they were all women and more angrily they were all Black women!
We ALL bought front row tickets to see
And we were
the entire time because they were all women and more angrily they were all Black women!
Bruh..... where are the other fat woman artifacts? And paintings by other painters
I made it clear that Pinky is what I considered fat. My point is that everyone has their own standards of beauty.It's ok to prefer, but because someone isn't skin and bones doesn't make them fat.
And everyone's fat compared to her
Another from the list of go to words
You fighting for your life in this bitch
Gotta say something I guess lol
The picture was correct...it was HER concert where she played it for her audience. You still objected by saying she was dressed inappropriately....at her own concert.You're right, myself and every other member hates Black women to our cores!
That's why we're on a message board named BLACK Girl Online. You're trying too hard.
And the picture I posted is the one that came up, if it was incorrect then my bad.
We still didn't need to see her stomach oops look at me, Black woman and fat woman hate!
Looks like you're doing the thing..
Lmao. That ain't no Lizzo equivalent. The issue isn't with her music, the problem is her sexualizing her fat body.
ok I definitely understand that depictions of fat women have been created. This one's existence doesn't support this shape being the standard of beauty though.This is a lot further back then the time I was originally referring to but I think shows my point pretty well.
Keep in mind some prehistoric brah took the time to carve this and didn't even bother finishing the face. It was all about the body.
I see some tummies for sure but there's not a Lizzo in this video.
this is what I'm saying.
ok but you're bringing it out to general terms but the specific question is about LIZZO SHAPED WOMEN being a STANDARD OF BEAUTY. Not "were big women preferred in the past".
Just saying the specifics matter here
thanks for the info. I'm well aware that thick broads have been the wave at various points throughout history, I think most people have some level of awareness of that one.
I have intentionally been really specific in my questions, it keeps getting pulled back out to these general ideas.
The part I quoted is really all I'm saying.
I should also add that I've never really stepped into the Lizzo hate train and I'm not now. But I understand the cause and effect at play.
As the standard of beauty
Not wanting to see her stomach or fat isn't "Objecting". If anything it could be called fat dislike or the disliking of fat or maybe the liking of tact.
Objectification involves viewing and/or treating a person as an object, devoid of thought or feeling. Often, objectification is targeted at women and reduces them to objects of sexual pleasure and gratification.
To objectify someone is to look at her and see an object, usually a sexual one, rather than a fully formed human with opinions and feelings and a sense of humor. When men harass women on the street or, say, share nude pictures of them without their consent, objectification is at work.
Bruh that was just prehistoric me showing my love of tiddies. The first picture is a carving I did of a huge pile of shit i took after a dinosaur BBQ.
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"Standard of beauty" is an ideal. It doesn't mean most women were shaped like that. It is what society considered the best looking form.
Obviously, without a poll, there's no way to know what most men considered beautiful in any point in history but art gives a good idea of what the society at the time considered the ideal standard of beauty.
First of all..... BAN
Second that is just a picture of an oversized bitch at age 29. This isn't an overweight musician, entertainer, etc trying to pass off her body as sexy.
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If you want to understand the movement behind fat women in art then you need to study the Baroque period. I am at least 25 years removed from my art history courses. I say again, fatness was never a standard of beauty, but more of a "sign of the times." Remember Europe was a fucked up place with famine, plagues and overall filthy conditions. As the conditions and classes changed, so did the art that was commissioned.
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