HBO:The Night of..Official Discussion Thread

Yes..but I'm not an expert or anything but I've watched enough ID Channel to know that even if the killer took a shower there would be blood around the drain of the shower. Also they mad the point of him cutting his hand on the knife which would have left his blood on her body.

Maybe, but since it was the financial advisor and they had a relationship I don't think it's too out there that he could have took a shower.

Also, the police and prosecution didn't care. To them they had there man right there and case was closed as far as they were concerned.
 
2nd season:
they still have to build the case & prove it in court - no hung juries.
drama shifts from Nas/Stone focus to Box (in retirement) and who ever financial advisor gets to defend and contrast his prison experience to Nas.

and keeping with TV dramas-
-maybe it was step-Dad
-maybe it was Duane Reed
-maybe it was Nas (they'll find a way to explain it somehow) in a flashback to what he doesn't remember.

i would prefer if they left this story alone and if they proceded with a second treat it as an anthology. Only carry over being location and maybe Stone.

I loved the ending because although it was dramatized it rang true to life. When a person of color gets in the system whether innocent or not his life is ruined. And Naz didnt kill Andrea but he wasn't exactly innocent. He was capable of great violence without guilt and was an accomplice in a murder in prison.

I love how we know who the killer is but with all time that has passed, his resources and the fact he wasnt te 1st suspect he may easily get off.
 
i would prefer if they left this story alone and if they proceded with a second treat it as an anthology. Only carry over being location and maybe Stone.

I loved the ending because although it was dramatized it rang true to life. When a person of color gets in the system whether innocent or not his life is ruined. And Naz didnt kill Andrea but he wasn't exactly innocent. He was capable of great violence without guilt and was an accomplice in a murder in prison.

I love how we know who the killer is but with all time that has passed, his resources and the fact he wasnt te 1st suspect he may easily get off.

yea I agree, leave this story alone, but morph into another one...

I think they will get the real murderer, that prosecutor

was no joke... and that retired pig was fuckin relentless...

plus with video evidence and bank statements dudes lawyer better be the second coming of Johnny Cochran...
 
I actually think it failed to deliver on it's promise. The story line with the female lawyer i totally didn't find believable with her as a character that she would just behave like that. He wasn't charismatic or anything to manipulate her from what I saw. Too much other convenient stuff happened for me to really enjoy it.
 
i would prefer if they left this story alone and if they proceded with a second treat it as an anthology. Only carry over being location and maybe Stone.

I loved the ending because although it was dramatized it rang true to life. When a person of color gets in the system whether innocent or not his life is ruined. And Naz didnt kill Andrea but he wasn't exactly innocent. He was capable of great violence without guilt and was an accomplice in a murder in prison.

I love how we know who the killer is but with all time that has passed, his resources and the fact he wasnt te 1st suspect he may easily get off.


naz was innocent. his hs past had nothing to do with it. the murder of freddy's right man was for violating that poor kid's manhood.
 
I actually think it failed to deliver on it's promise. The story line with the female lawyer i totally didn't find believable with her as a character that she would just behave like that. He wasn't charismatic or anything to manipulate her from what I saw. Too much other convenient stuff happened for me to really enjoy it.

Why not? The female lawyer proved she was a door mat when she let her boss parade her around Naz's parents b/c she was Indian.

The way Naz barked at her talking bout she had better brought the drugs had me :lol:
 
I actually think it failed to deliver on it's promise. The story line with the female lawyer i totally didn't find believable with her as a character that she would just behave like that. He wasn't charismatic or anything to manipulate her from what I saw. Too much other convenient stuff happened for me to really enjoy it.

Liked the show.....thought the lawyer storyline was a farce.
 
I actually think it failed to deliver on it's promise. The story line with the female lawyer i totally didn't find believable with her as a character that she would just behave like that. He wasn't charismatic or anything to manipulate her from what I saw. Too much other convenient stuff happened for me to really enjoy it.

you dont think maybe she was vulnerable due to the

fact she just lost her boyfriend?
 
2nd season:
they still have to build the case & prove it in court - no hung juries.
drama shifts from Nas/Stone focus to Box (in retirement) and who ever financial advisor gets to defend and contrast his prison experience to Nas.

and keeping with TV dramas-
-maybe it was step-Dad
-maybe it was Duane Reed
-maybe it was Nas (they'll find a way to explain it somehow) in a flashback to what he doesn't remember.

Same thing I was thinking. 2nd season focus on financial adviser. Buuuuut... maybe he was in cahoots with the stepdad. Which could lead to season 3. And maybe the two of them hired Duane Reed.
 
you dont think maybe she was vulnerable due to the

fact she just lost her boyfriend?

I don't think they laid that out enough. Was he similar to Nas? Is she latching on to any man who shows her attention? They didn't have the time to develop it and I felt like it was used purely as a convenient plot device and they didn't use her as a character in that instance. Or respect that character in any way to really bring it together. When I saw it I was like wtf. and then there is no progression to really convincing her to bring him drugs in. it was like we need this to happen so this is it.
 
Why not? The female lawyer proved she was a door mat when she let her boss parade her around Naz's parents b/c she was Indian.

The way Naz barked at her talking bout she had better brought the drugs had me :lol:
I mean after she kissed him initially it was a waste. That didn't prove she was a door mat, it said more about the other lawyer than her as a character.
 
I don't think they laid that out enough. Was he similar to Nas? Is she latching on to any man who shows her attention? They didn't have the time to develop it and I felt like it was used purely as a convenient plot device and they didn't use her as a character in that instance. Or respect that character in any way to really bring it together. When I saw it I was like wtf. and then there is no progression to really convincing her to bring him drugs in. it was like we need this to happen so this is it.

I think the fact she was getting really drunk when it happend was tryin to show it was fuckin with her, because she always seemed in control of herself, but that night she couldnt stop drinkin and john tutorros(sp) character had to put a stop to it...

I dont think it was lazy writing as much as it was tryin to get as much in as they can within that time...

I hear you though, like everything in life, its all in the eye of he beholder..

some will love it, some will hate it..

just how life goes....
 
In retrospect I love how they handled the Naz and Freddie relationship.

All season long we've been speculating about Freddie's motives for protecting Naz.

We assumed that it had to be something sinister given what we saw of Freddie: he was cunning, a killer, multiple life sentences, he was a drug lord, etc.

For it to simply be that he wanted to protect a child who was wrongfully accused of a crime that would have got him killed in prison is not only admirable but makes us all look like prejudicial assholes.

We subconsciously summarily judged Freddie, similar to how the police and public judged Naz. This is how young Black kids are judged by the circumstances of their environment and not the content of their character.
 
I enjoyed it overall. But the lawyers behavior just didn't fit the storyline imo. I felt it was done, just so Stone would have a reason to do closing arguments as far as the story is concerned. In fact the whole show seemed bi polar. There were good scenes and on the other hand there were extended storylines such as Stone's feet and the cat that was just a time waste. Cut that out and you have a more focused story. Probably don't have as many episodes though.
 
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Good show. We're 5 episodes. Nice to see him start to "break bad" like Heisenberg / Walter White after being fed up with the bullshit and getting his forearm slashed, hot water scalded & disrespected by the latter individual.
 
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Rizwan Ahmed (Urdu: رضوان احمد‎; born 1 December 1982), also known as Riz MC, is a British-Pakistani actor, rapper and activist.[1] As an actor, he won an Emmy Award, out of two Emmy nominations, and was also nominated for a Golden Globe, Screen Actors Guild Award, and three British Independent Film Awards. He was initially known for his work in independent films such as The Road to Guantanamo (2006), Shifty (2008), Four Lions (2010), Trishna (2011), and Ill Manors (2012), before his breakout role in Nightcrawler (2014). In 2016, he starred in Una, Jason Bourne, and as Bodhi Rook in the first Star Wars Anthology film, Rogue One. That year, he also starred in the HBO miniseries The Night Of as Nasir Khan; the show and his performance were critically lauded. At the 2017 Emmy Awards, he received two nominations, for his performance in The Night Of and his guest spot in Girls; he won the award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Limited Series or Movie for The Night Of, becoming the first Asian and first Muslim to win in the category, the first South Asian male to win an acting Emmy,[2] and the first Muslim and first South Asian to win a lead acting Emmy.[3]



As a rapper, he is a member of the Swet Shop Boys, earned critical acclaim with the hip-hop albums Microscope and Cashmere, and earned commercial success featuring in the Billboard 200 chart topping Hamilton Mixtape, with his song "Immigrants (We Get The Job Done)" winning an MTV Video Music Award. As an activist, he is known for his political rap music, and has been involved in raising funds for Syrian refugee children and advocating representation at the House of Commons. In 2017, he was included on the front cover of the annual Time 100 list of the most influential people in the world.[1]
 
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