HBO: Insecure -- Season 5 Official Discussion Thread (Final Season)


That bartender Lawrence fucked was that vine chick that used to twerk.


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I respect yall CSI game... and thank you for those GIFs....
 
So, the male perspective wasn’t at all there tonight—unless you count Asian dude trying to get Issa out of Nathan’s business. Otherwise, I’m probably ready to drop off HBO after Ballers on Sunday. But it’s only one more week
 
So, the male perspective wasn’t at all there tonight—unless you count Asian dude trying to get Issa out of Nathan’s business. Otherwise, I’m probably ready to drop off HBO after Ballers on Sunday. But it’s only one more week

So, Lawrence "trying" church doesn't count? His boy, Chad, went with him cause of the "mad bitches" that be there. I'd say it was there - just because it's not always about women oro the opposite sex doesn't make it less a perspective.
 
It confused me when Lawrence wanted to go to church and then it made sense when I saw the girl he was talking to...

But I couldn’t fuck with church tho unless I’m pullin bitches
 
Molly needs to chill out. She got in her feelings when the Asian dude was just joking

And Issa needs to chill out trying to investigate Nathan’s room and shit

Yeah I couldn't date Molly at all, real talk. I fucking hate those type of women, always getting overly emotional and then act like it's your fault. She literally brought up the grimey thing the Asian guy did as a joke that he confided in her about first. The guy just thought they were joking and followed suit and replied with what she told him.

The show has become way more watchable now that the extra characters from the guys side of the store are involved.
 
I actually felt the slightest bit of guilt thinking about the chics I have flat out abandoned...knowing I was gonna bail on em from jump lol
 
Yeah I couldn't date Molly at all, real talk. I fucking hate those type of women, always getting overly emotional and then act like it's your fault. She literally brought up the grimey thing the Asian guy did as a joke that he confided in her about first. The guy just thought they were joking and followed suit and replied with what she told him.

he did kind of go extra compared to what she brought up imo but yes she did overreact...her problem tho is she IS grimy and that’s fine if she’s ready to embrace it and not give a fuck what ppl think...she can’t have her cake and eat it too...how did she expect dude to act after she did the presentation on her own lol?
 
Ghosting someone is trash period male or female. I've never respected it. Ever. I've never done it either. Just can't. I'd rather just be like I don't want to talk to you anymore than to Ghost you. It's cruel as shit.
Issa will work through it and Nathan don't deserve the time of day anymore.
Molly shouldn't date until she's over Dro and that situation. She jokes and shit is cool and then its not cause her feelings still hurt. Then try to talk to dude like it's all good talking about I forgive you, glad he did the right thing. If someone could walk out on you like that after making a joke and not even try and hear you out there's no reason to give them a chance to do that type of shit again.
Torian is trash. Look dude you don't have to be in charge of everything and act funny because Molly handled her business.
They got the guys out here acting pretty childish
However nobody was acting more childish than Issa.
Lawrence trying to find himself personally cause clubs and mad bitches is boring as fuck. Sounds crazy to say but it actually is.
 
Ghosting someone is trash period male or female. I've never respected it. Ever. I've never done it either. Just can't. I'd rather just be like I don't want to talk to you anymore than to Ghost you. It's cruel as shit.
Issa will work through it and Nathan don't deserve the time of day anymore.
Molly shouldn't date until she's over Dro and that situation. She jokes and shit is cool and then its not cause her feelings still hurt. Then try to talk to dude like it's all good talking about I forgive you, glad he did the right thing. If someone could walk out on you like that after making a joke and not even try and hear you out there's no reason to give them a chance to do that type of shit again.
Torian is trash. Look dude you don't have to be in charge of everything and act funny because Molly handled her business.
They got the guys out here acting pretty childish
However nobody was acting more childish than Issa.
Lawrence trying to find himself personally cause clubs and mad bitches is boring as fuck. Sounds crazy to say but it actually is.
I had one chic ghost me, then yrs later I seen her. Was with ms sneed, I could see the jealousy. Just kept walkin.

And yes that club and hoes life is fuckin lame. I think back all the money wasted on that shit.

But I ain’t gonna waste it on no damn church lol

Torian a faggot, that’s female shit he doin
 
it really is depending on the woman...some of them didn’t deserve it...and it’s fucked up I never really gave much thought to it til I seen these last 2 eps...for me it was just “moving on”

Yup sometimes ghosting is a pride thing or a childish game. Male and Female play with each other. They really was feeling one another, that’s why they agree to hangout in the first place. Then pride kicks in, I’m not calling or texting her/him. Because she/he hasn’t texted or called me first. Days/weeks go by of playing this game which results in ghosting.
 
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Yup sometimes ghosting is a pride thing or a childish game. Male and Female play with each other. They really was feeling one another, that’s why they agree to hangout in the first place. Then pride kicks in, I’m not calling or texting her/him. Because she/he hasn’t texted or called me first. Days/weeks go by of playing this game which results in ghosting.

I’m let the story play out...but if he really is ghost (considering the circumstances) then he won’t really feeling her...that’s part of the game...making the other person think you do til you get what you want...very “gutsy” writing to introduce a new character and then write them off like that...I’d be surprised tho if they don’t have him appear in the season finale to explain shit/wrap shit up
 
I'm guessing Nathan has been in jail. Wasn't the last conversation Issa had on the phone with the woman about her no longer needing to come into court because Nathsn took care of it? It's going to circle back to his "how do you know it's real" question when he was willing to go to jail to keep her from needing to testify against big dude that got beat up in the car
 
I'm guessing Nathan has been in jail. Wasn't the last conversation Issa had on the phone with the woman about her no longer needing to come into court because Nathsn took care of it? It's going to circle back to his "how do you know it's real" question when he was willing to go to jail to keep her from needing to testify against big dude that got beat up in the car

that’d be interesting
 
I’m let the story play out...but if he really is ghost (considering the circumstances) then he won’t really feeling her...that’s part of the game...making the other person think you do til you get what you want...very “gutsy” writing to introduce a new character and then write them off like that...I’d be surprised tho if they don’t have him appear in the season finale to explain shit/wrap shit up

I thought Nathan left because of the hesitation Issa gave him in the bed scene. He said I really like you a lot. And when it was her time to respond she paused and hesitated. I assumed right then and there. Nathan thought to himself, she not feeling me like I’m feeling her. That was the last time you heard from him.
 
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I thought Nathan left because of the hesitation Issa gave him in the bed scene. He said I really like you a lot. And when it was her time to respond she paused and hesitated. I assumed right then and there. Nathan thought to himself, she not feeling me like I’m feeling her. That was the last time you heard from him.
No. Dudes who own their game can pick apart any woman and get them to maximize their pussy’s whetness. He knew she was a loser so he made her feel like she was capable of being a decent adult.

When a woman really loves you the pussy is amazing.
 
I thought Nathan left because of the hesitation Issa gave him in the bed scene. He said I really like you a lot. And when it was her time to respond she paused and hesitated. I assumed right then and there. Nathan thought to himself, she not feeling me like I’m feeling her. That was the last time you heard from him.

I have to go back and watch...so much was packed into the 2 eps prior to this one...so I probably missed a lot of subtle things
 
I'm guessing Nathan has been in jail. Wasn't the last conversation Issa had on the phone with the woman about her no longer needing to come into court because Nathsn took care of it? It's going to circle back to his "how do you know it's real" question when he was willing to go to jail to keep her from needing to testify against big dude that got beat up in the car

nathan could not have talked to the lyft rep if he was in jail.

he also could not have been posting selfies with his mother on instagram.
 
I'm guessing Nathan has been in jail. Wasn't the last conversation Issa had on the phone with the woman about her no longer needing to come into court because Nathsn took care of it? It's going to circle back to his "how do you know it's real" question when he was willing to go to jail to keep her from needing to testify against big dude that got beat up in the car

I think he's out because someone tagged him in an IG picture raving on how good of a haircut he gave him. Also, the Asian dude didn't mention anything about him being in jail to Molly or Isaa
 
it really is depending on the woman...some of them didn’t deserve it...and it’s fucked up I never really gave much thought to it til I seen these last 2 eps...for me it was just “moving on”

Yeah I feel you. To me I've always been like look I don't want to deal with you or talk with you or whatever we're doing anymore. I've always been like we just not compatible or it's not working or Its just not gonna work and go from there

It just made me feel better about it in case I see her around somewhere.

I've been ghosted before many moons ago. The first couple of days I was like well she's busy then I was like oh is she dead? Then I saw her and I was like ok damn and I began to not even stress over it

It made me think she wasn't adult enough to say let's not talk so why worry over her? And that worked

Saw her later bout couple years down the line and she tried to speak and be cordial and I was cordial back. She texted me later talking about how seeing me made me realize this and that to which I said " I'm not interested in talking to you like that"... Which is what she knows she should've done. And said as much.
 
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I had one chic ghost me, then yrs later I seen her. Was with ms sneed, I could see the jealousy. Just kept walkin.

And yes that club and hoes life is fuckin lame. I think back all the money wasted on that shit.

But I ain’t gonna waste it on no damn church lol

Torian a faggot, that’s female shit he doin


Torian is moist as shit smh
 
Worst episode in 3 seasons to me. Issa is becoming more of a caricature by the episode.

Idk about her being a caricature. Being a woman, I can tell you a lot of women, especially after following a failed relationship or just during a low point, will obsess over a new guy, ESPECIALLY if he ghosted on you. It's part of the availability we now have to people because of social media. We definitely e-stalk exes or current guys we're dating - what they were showing was pretty damn real, yet ugly. The ugly side of being a single woman or, shit, just social media.
 
Idk about her being a caricature. Being a woman, I can tell you a lot of women, especially after following a failed relationship or just during a low point, will obsess over a new guy, ESPECIALLY if he ghosted on you. It's part of the availability we now have to people because of social media. We definitely e-stalk exes or current guys we're dating - what they were showing was pretty damn real, yet ugly. The ugly side of being a single woman or, shit, just social media.
I feel you on that but people generally don't drift too far from who they are. It just seems like Issa just goes from one random act of behavior to another this season. She's on some Lucille Ball doing anything for a laugh shit this season.

This was a girl that cussed a dude out for busting on her face a season ago (while in her "hoe phase") to jumping in a pool naked and fucking a relative stranger on a ferris wheel. I didn't trip on that cause women can be on that emotional contractictary shit. But to sneak into a Nathan crib and go through his shit when she was too cool to put in effort to fight for Lawrence and Daniel just seems off to me.
 
I feel you on that but people generally don't drift too far from who they are. It just seems like Issa just goes from one random act of behavior to another this season. She's on some Lucille Ball doing anything for a laugh shit this season.

This was a girl that cussed a dude out for busting on her face a season ago (while in her "hoe phase") to jumping in a pool naked and fucking a relative stranger on a ferris wheel. I didn't trip on that cause women can be on that emotional contractictary shit. But to sneak into a Nathan crib and go through his shit when she was too cool to put in effort to fight for Lawrence and Daniel just seems off to me.

experiences change ppl...her behavior now is not farfetched @ all imo given her most recent experiences...she’s been severely humbled by her failed relationships...stagnant job (now no job)...lack of true purpose and could barely keep an apartment...she’s @ a pretty low point in her life and many times this can bring about the “changes” she’s experienced in a person especially when they’re looking for anything/anyone to make them feel special about themselves...not saying nathan conned her out her panties but if he did he swooped in @ exactly the right moment...when issa was desperate and @ her lowest
 
experiences change ppl...her behavior now is not farfetched @ all imo given her most recent experiences...she’s been severely humbled by her failed relationships...stagnant job (now no job)...lack of true purpose and could barely keep an apartment...she’s @ a pretty low point in her life and many times this can bring about the “changes” she’s experienced in a person especially when they’re looking for anything/anyone to make them feel special about themselves...not saying nathan conned her out her panties but if he did he swooped in @ exactly the right moment...when issa was desperate and @ her lowest
Idk man maybe I'm just not seeing this "low point" that yall are. All of this shit she's dealing with is voluntary and really not that serious. She didnt get fired she left. She has two jobs. She got enough bread and freedom to take a girls trip. Black women deal with way more trauma/drama and still dont lose their pride over a fling. She's been a prideful chick all this time. She was in a worst spot with Daniel and she was frontin while living in his crib. It's just weird to me. The writing is just off to me. Even the Lawrence church thing is just random. Respect
 
Idk man maybe I'm just not seeing this "low point" that yall are. All of this shit she's dealing with is voluntary and really not that serious. She didnt get fired she left. She has two jobs. She got enough bread and freedom to take a girls trip. Black women deal with way more trauma/drama and still dont lose their pride over a fling. She's been a prideful chick all this time. She was in a worst spot with Daniel and she was frontin while living in his crib. It's just weird to me. The writing is just off to me. Even the Lawrence church thing is just random. Respect

I don’t know what to say to that in bold... re: pride tho...it’s easy for that shit to fall when it’s false...the show is called “insecure” (I’m not saying this to be facetious or condescending)...she’s never been really prideful imo...she put up a front like a lot of ppl do...now she’s seeing what good it’s done for her and she’s humbled

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also re: lawrence...I thought he was angling to hit shorty up initially but he was really soul searching after just running thru bitches to his own detriment...ppl do that in different ways...shit I had to have a serious look in the mirror a few months back when I felt I was going overboard...I was LUCKY to come away unscathed but for the first time I was truly worried about the potential consequences...and had to dig deep and question myself and some of the decisions I make re: women and fortunately I just had nothing but time to just get back in touch w/ myself...question my motives and ask myself some serious shit...but most importantly establish what changes I had to make...for a lot of men (not saying all...not saying most) they run thru women w/ no regard...some grow out of it by their 30s...some later...some never...depending on where you fall it can take its toll on you eventually...dude is a professional man in his 30s having to explain to a doctor he has the clap that he got from bitches he barely likes/respects...that shit ain’t cool...he may not need jesus but he need something lol
 
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