Have Black men lost the art of seduction?
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LoneStar29
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Don't you know it's all OUR fault BG?
When we meet men that no longer want to go out on dates ... that no longer want to put in the time to pursue us cuz he can meet another "hoe" that will give it up faster ... that wanna fuck the first night we meet them ... it's all OUR fault ... you didn't know that BG???
Cuz if WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE were better women than OBVIOUSLY that will make them better men ... it's all our fault BG so you can close this thread now
<-----is on a tirade right now
BiGirl, I agreed with your statement in the other thread to a point. I honestly think you should've started this thread on the other side to generate discussion. I'm not going to question your motives. 
Technically, you just blamed women yourself. Men, ultimately, are after sex. If they can get sex somewhere else, then they will. The key for women is to present yourself in a manner than makes a man think "Something about this woman is special, I can't get what she has nowhere else. Let me put in the time, effort, and money to persue and court her rather than go down to the street to the chick giving up the skins without much effort."
I agree that better men make better women. Men are stupid and easily manipulated. If you're finding that men only want to fuck you and don't want to take you out on dates, start demanding it. The man will change. Sure, you might go through a lack of relationships for a while, but those aren't the men you want anyway. Soon enough, if you're presenting a good enough image and there's something about you that makes a man want to persue you for things other than sex, then you will meet that man and have a prosperous relationship.
It's like a car. People need cars to get from point A to point B. Any car will do, right? So why do people spend so much on the good long-lasting cars? Understand that and you will understand what I'm saying.
Technically, you just blamed women yourself. Men, ultimately, are after sex. If they can get sex somewhere else, then they will. The key for women is to present yourself in a manner than makes a man think "Something about this woman is special, I can't get what she has nowhere else. Let me put in the time, effort, and money to persue and court her rather than go down to the street to the chick giving up the skins without much effort."
Cuz if WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE were better women than OBVIOUSLY that will make them better men ... it's all our fault BG so you can close this thread now
<-----is on a tirade right now
I agree that better men make better women. Men are stupid and easily manipulated. If you're finding that men only want to fuck you and don't want to take you out on dates, start demanding it. The man will change. Sure, you might go through a lack of relationships for a while, but those aren't the men you want anyway. Soon enough, if you're presenting a good enough image and there's something about you that makes a man want to persue you for things other than sex, then you will meet that man and have a prosperous relationship.
It's like a car. People need cars to get from point A to point B. Any car will do, right? So why do people spend so much on the good long-lasting cars? Understand that and you will understand what I'm saying.
Naaaaah they havent...
But what I have noticed is society/music/hood dudes that are dont know anything but the hood dont know what seduction is...
They have to have the mentality....To WANT to seduce a woman instead of listening to a Plies song and just wanting to fuck...
I wont lie some of Plies stuff has me like...Dayummmmmm talking about sucking on my pussy lips....What???
But a brother that can seduce me and make me want to fuck him just by talking or his swag.....Is a keeper
But what I have noticed is society/music/hood dudes that are dont know anything but the hood dont know what seduction is...
They have to have the mentality....To WANT to seduce a woman instead of listening to a Plies song and just wanting to fuck...
I wont lie some of Plies stuff has me like...Dayummmmmm talking about sucking on my pussy lips....What???
But a brother that can seduce me and make me want to fuck him just by talking or his swag.....Is a keeper
In the last decade or so, it really appears so
What do you think ladies?
When was the last time a man really had the style and class to have you open like that? Be honest!
No cause then there would be 4 pages of "take that shit to SOL" posts
Anyway, I was not raised to be a "ho"
The way I was brought up is look and smell nice, be myself, be more like coy and demure which does not mean being like a dead fish but lets just say a bit more subtle. Glances, touching his arm or whatever, little body language stuff, things like that but then it is up to HE to pick up on those cues and run with it
Sadly, I see a lack of that lately it seems like a lot of men too used to hoes throwing the pussy in their face and don't really know what to do otherwise
Sex starts in the mind! Nothing is sexier than intelligent conversation and laughter at least to me
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with ya'll but I SEDUCE my women.
If I'm alone with you, and horny, there's an 80% chance we will be fucking by night's end. The more you try to make me wait, the more you might end up doing more....
If I'm alone with you, and horny, there's an 80% chance we will be fucking by night's end. The more you try to make me wait, the more you might end up doing more....
LoneStar29
Banned
I meant what I said in the "Fuck You" thread ... I aint reading NONE of the shit any of you have to write anymore
Ya'll will say ANYTHING to make what you do right and what we do wrong ... it aint a discussion if from jump you're gonna say "anybody who disagrees with me don't bother posting in her to begin with" .. so fuck it ... there is no point
I meant what I said in the "Fuck You" thread ... I aint reading NONE of the shit any of you have to write anymore
Ya'll will say ANYTHING to make what you do right and what we do wrong ... it aint a discussion if from jump you're gonna say "anybody who disagrees with me don't bother posting in her to begin with" .. so fuck it ... there is no point
he can't say that here cause this is my thread!
I agree w/ this statement..........
I wasnt raised this way, but I matured into this...
Regarding sex starts in the mind...YES it does...That is how I ended up branded
DETAILS!!! How do you seduce her?
BTW I 5 starred this thread because I like the topic
I wasnt raised this way, but I matured into this...
Regarding sex starts in the mind...YES it does...That is how I ended up branded
The way I was brought up is look and smell nice, be myself, be more like coy and demure which does not mean being like a dead fish but lets just say a bit more subtle. Glances, touching his arm or whatever, little body language stuff, things like that but then it is up to HE to pick up on those cues and run with it
Sex starts in the mind! Nothing is sexier than intelligent conversation and laughter at least to me
DETAILS!!! How do you seduce her?
BTW I 5 starred this thread because I like the topic
No cause then there would be 4 pages of "take that shit to SOL" posts
Anyway, I was not raised to be a "ho"
The way I was brought up is look and smell nice, be myself, be more like coy and demure which does not mean being like a dead fish but lets just say a bit more subtle. Glances, touching his arm or whatever, little body language stuff, things like that but then it is up to HE to pick up on those cues and run with it
Sadly, I see a lack of that lately it seems like a lot of men too used to hoes throwing the pussy in their face and don't really know what to do otherwise
Sex starts in the mind! Nothing is sexier than intelligent conversation and laughter at least to me
Everything you stated is 100% on point. I agree with the green, that's all seduction, However, sometimes, those cues AREN'T there. And that, and a conversation with a female, was the impetus for my thread on the other side. As for the bolded, well ultimately, who does the onus fall upon? Like I said, men are stupid and simple. If you make your child's bed every morning and do his laundry, what will he do when it's time to move out and make his own bed and do his own laundry? Same with romance and seduction.
I agree with this, mos def.
Also, why is it that when people think of seduce they think of fucking? This is in reference to Actin's comment even tho I forgot to quote him lol.
I think that is part of the issue IMO. Yes seduction can lead to sex but I personally think of seduction as sooo much more than sex.
See, it has nothing to do with acting like a hoe.
I don't know why they think that either. And I think that is reflective of the problem.
Remember the car analogy? Man = customer, woman = salesman, car= sex/her worth/relationship. The art of selling the car is seduction IMO.
Can't believe I'm agreeing with Princeton over here, but I do believe that when a man finds a woman who is suitable of him "changing his ways" or treating her right, regardless of how he treated other women, with time, he will change...I've seen it happen too. The crazy thing, though, is changing their perception of women, altogether, though...it may not happen quickly, but it can happen...
See, it has nothing to do with acting like a hoe.
I don't know why they think that either. And I think that is reflective of the problem.
Remember the car analogy? Man = customer, woman = salesman, car= sex/her worth/relationship. The art of selling the car is seduction IMO.
So the art of seduction is to give away as much sex/her worth/relationship to the man?
Women cannot "change" a man.
When a man makes up his mind that he no longer wants to fuck easy skanks, that is when he will stop chasing them and look for something of quality.
I think that seduction is a lost art on people in general. We live in a microwave society. We want what we want, right now. Seduction takes time, energy, and effort. A lot of men aren't willing put in any of those things.
When a man makes up his mind that he no longer wants to fuck easy skanks, that is when he will stop chasing them and look for something of quality.
I think that seduction is a lost art on people in general. We live in a microwave society. We want what we want, right now. Seduction takes time, energy, and effort. A lot of men aren't willing put in any of those things.
You can seduce someone into anything. However, dealing with the ART of SEDUCTION, its mostly dealing with sex. Ju you don't have to be a douche all your life now...
so seduction isn't found in phucking easy skanks?
Really, Shane, really....
You have nothing of substance to say, eh? I'm SO disappointed in you...
Nah. A man won't change. If it ain't in him, it ain't in him. Some men, however, have just been on Cruise Control. You gotta make him shift out of that shit. That's not really changing him.
Negro, it ain't a perfect analogy.
Honestly, I agree with you about most men do not wanna deal with the attitude you'll have to fight through to get to the seduction part. Me, on the other hand, sees that as an opportunity to dig deep *more ways than one* into a woman's psyche. Attitudes don't bother me because I have an attitude also. The more bitchy you are, the more I want to do to you mentally, spiritually, and physically.
I agree!
Both men and women in general have become more complacent about romance and seduction.
Men think buying material things equals seduction - and women believe it by demanding more of the material bullshit as opposed to quality time.
Don't you know it's all OUR fault BG?
When we meet men that no longer want to go out on dates ... that no longer want to put in the time to pursue us cuz he can meet another "hoe" that will give it up faster ... that wanna fuck the first night we meet them ... it's all OUR fault ... you didn't know that BG???
Cuz if WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE were better women than OBVIOUSLY that will make them better men ... it's all our fault BG so you can close this thread now
<-----is on a tirade right now
...On the real though, I hope women like Star and any other one who get frustrated by some of what they see here and/or in the real world don't totally lose faith in the black man. We're not all on that bullshit. I think a lot of the time there are serious gaps in communication between brothas and sistas. We need to humble ourselves at times in order to work out our problems. Remember to show respect, especially when you're having a disagreement. If/when that is lost we end up in heated discussions that lead to nothing but a man feeling "bitches ain't shit", and a woman felling like "niggas ain't shit". That kind of thing is counterproductive and only makes the gap(s) between us wider. We've got to get past ego and pride at certain points and talk and listen to each other. Listening is as, if not more important to communication as speaking is. Let's be adults and constructively work out our problems when they arise...
...Now as fars as the topic, I think women bring out different parts of a man's personality. If I feel a woman is worthy of certain things I'll do them. I have no problem showing her that I'm in to her if she deserves it. At the same time it is also nice when she shows her appreciation for me as well. It's about give and take, but doing it from a real, genuine place. It's not about doing things we don't want to do just to get something in return, but doing them because we felt inspired by the other to be that way...
Shut up and soak up some good game...i see u r fully aware of the copy n paste functions
That's my daaaaawg
Shut up and soak up some good game...
soak deez
don't start w/ me CHUMP!
<- me laughin at u
We have not lost the art of seduction, its just that so many women dont require us to use it. If I dont have to wine and dine so to speak to get that ass then I wont. It seems to me ladies have lowered their requirements for us in the pursuit to be just as equal. Well now thats what we give ya.
You know what killed seduction?
Miseducation.
Think about it.
Miseducation.
Think about it.
soak deez
don't start w/ me CHUMP!
Here is video footage of Ju trying to get on my level...
...As you all can see she FAILED!!!
Yessir
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