which is why it will fail
They thought theyd have no problem pushing the acquisition of new equipment on consumers but business said fuck that.
Has Windows Vista failed?
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which is why it will fail
They thought theyd have no problem pushing the acquisition of new equipment on consumers but business said fuck that.
I do think Mac will take over the PC market in the Next 7-10 Years. Look at amazon.com Top seller list for 2007.
ignorance leads to lack of choice = 95 , 98se , me , xp etc
a little knowledge leads to variety = microsoft + or mac
experience and knowledge leads to a big middle finger at big business as people realise the future is unix in what ever flavour it comes in be it ubuntu , fedora suse etc .
Guess who made the Top 5 Worst Products of 2007
http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31722.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31722.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
Unless and until Ubuntu, Fedora, Suse or whatever the 1000 attention whore flavors linux comes in, populates a substantial number of desks at public schools and home computers, you can put that that story on the shelf next to Grim's Fairy Tales and Cooking With Tofu.
Companies are not interested in the expense of retraining their employees on how to use an unfamilier operating system; when if they already have windows at home, that part is done. Not to mention the support aspect. Why do you think Apple and MS gives away millions of systems to schools? Chances are, those future employees will demand jobs using systems they are familier with. A company wanting to setup shop is likely to do it in an area trained on MS products. Just smart business. Unix will always have a place on the server side of the house. But the desktop won't be linux for eons.
-VG
Never had any major issues with XP. I've been using MS crap for years and XP is the best OS they came out with hands down. Looks good and works good. Vista (aka Windows ME pt. 2) just looks good, but is sluggish as hell. Plus if you're a real computer user you could give a shit about all that fancy shit.
I've even tried to use many different flavors of Linux, but I got a serious problem with an OS that looks like it was built in 95 (even with that beryl shit) and it's 2007. Ubuntu and Suse are good though. If they can get some decent programs, one day they might have a shot, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
I've even tried to use many different flavors of Linux, but I got a serious problem with an OS that looks like it was built in 95 (even with that beryl shit) and it's 2007. Ubuntu and Suse are good though. If they can get some decent programs, one day they might have a shot, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
I did not say i said buy it, i siad it will probaly will not be viable until after the first or second serice pack just like xp.
I love it also, I have ultimate 64 bit. It is a resource hog, but if you have the right type of computer, the possibilities are endless. Too many folks are trying to run this OS on crappy systems. Those who do not know how to configure their computers should not mess with it.
still xp over here
what i really liked about vista was the eye candy
so...an xp running a vista skin...and now i'm straight
vista will be ok when the rest of the world catches up to it...for now, i don't want half my shit not working or reconfiguring or whatever...when i'm on the computer i want to compute...not be under the hood trying to figure out why something isn't working
i'll leave it at that for now...ppl get hot about the whole vista thing
what i really liked about vista was the eye candy
so...an xp running a vista skin...and now i'm straight
vista will be ok when the rest of the world catches up to it...for now, i don't want half my shit not working or reconfiguring or whatever...when i'm on the computer i want to compute...not be under the hood trying to figure out why something isn't working
i'll leave it at that for now...ppl get hot about the whole vista thing
I'll stay XP (don't have a choice)until I get a new computer. I've read that to run Vista without any problems you need at least 2 to 4 GB of RAM.
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M$ is competing against a rock solid kernel that have two service packs and soon to have a third.
All my PC(s) that are running MCE 2005, my server 2003, and network devices are working great and I am not going to fugh it up if I don't have to.
In time Vista will be the shat but that is still a couple of years away, imo.
All my PC(s) that are running MCE 2005, my server 2003, and network devices are working great and I am not going to fugh it up if I don't have to.
In time Vista will be the shat but that is still a couple of years away, imo.
I work with a lot of machines with Vista and XP. Vista itself is not bad. The first issue to me is unlike 98, there really isnt much wrong with XP, if you keep it clean it runs all day everyday. The main problems I notice with Vista are not enough power or memory, software not made for vista and drivers not available. Those problems stem from cheap computers and manufactures not providing updates fast enough with is really MS fault.
Plus the market is crazy, people want $400 laptops and want them to run like $1200 Mac books. If all PCs cost what Macs cost there would be way less complaints with Vista. Everybody would have 2 Gigs of memory, 160GB hdds, 256MB video cards and aluminum cases. Plus if MS spent more time getting everybody on board with software and hardware they would be even better off. I think its too early to say it failed. But vista did come out too early.
Plus the market is crazy, people want $400 laptops and want them to run like $1200 Mac books. If all PCs cost what Macs cost there would be way less complaints with Vista. Everybody would have 2 Gigs of memory, 160GB hdds, 256MB video cards and aluminum cases. Plus if MS spent more time getting everybody on board with software and hardware they would be even better off. I think its too early to say it failed. But vista did come out too early.
People got to understand Apple doesnt need to take over the PC Market to be successful. They sell 1 Mac (just one), they make 10x more (or more than that) than Microsoft makes off 1 PC sale with Windows.
If Apple managed to pull 20 - 30% of the PC Market it would probably be as big as Microsoft. Plus as far as business, Apple is putting little to no effort targeting the business market right now, so I dont think they are really pushing to compete with Microsoft in that area (with exception to its xserve). That'll probably change in the near future. Anyway, thats just my two cents
exactly my main reason for not upgrading..
and then the fact that some of my shit i currently have might not work with it for whatever reason. and then there is the drivers problems.
f that.
Since Vista has made the "Top ten terrible tech products," listing I would say its a failure. MS pours millions into R&D and to come up with a product as shitty as Vista is inexcuseable.
Any operating system that quietly has a downgrade-to- previous-edition option introduced for PC makers deserves to be classed as terrible technology.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/0,39029552,49293700-10,00.htm
Any operating system that quietly has a downgrade-to- previous-edition option introduced for PC makers deserves to be classed as terrible technology.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/0,39029552,49293700-10,00.htm
Take it from a guy who has seen both the good and the bad in Vista, the pros are great, but then again so are the cons!
Let me first start off with what I find wrong with it. My main problem with Vista is, manufacturers especially most of the new laptops companies, are loading it in systems that are better off suited to run Windows XP. For example my daughters' laptop came preloaded with basic Vista and I swear there are no noticeable changes from XP other than it seems to drag and act sluggish!
On the other hand my main Rig at home, is loaded has Vista Ultimate and XP dual boot, and the difference is day in night to me, with the Vista being much smoother and the better operating system by far!
I may be incorrect but I think Vista is optimized to handle higher sized and faster memory than XP, but XP can squeeze the most bang out of slower and less memory. Another big plus are the Direct X10 games, which are finally here!
I can tell you first hand them joints are looking real sweet!
As far as drivers goes, this is definitely not anther XP from me situation where you had to wait till service pact 2 to get your shit up and running, I have very little with compatibility problems, even got my emulator as well as bootleg games to run!
Bottom line is, that it is what it is, either you have a use for it, for which I say go for it! Or you don't, for which I say, save your money!
I can relate to why a lot of people hate vista, because I had major problems with the OS in the past. This includes driver issues, unsupported hardware and system crashes.
Tell you what though....... when dude came through with that vista ultimate, I said why not give it another shot. Lo and behold, this mofo is running smooth. After doing updates, all of my hardware is now supported and 95% of the software that I ran under xp is working in vista.
Tell you what though....... when dude came through with that vista ultimate, I said why not give it another shot. Lo and behold, this mofo is running smooth. After doing updates, all of my hardware is now supported and 95% of the software that I ran under xp is working in vista.
I have both xp on my pc and vista on my laptop... vista just takes getting some use to yeah ill admit every so often i get an unexplainable freeze but all in all vista is pretty nice...Most people i have seen complaining are those who have installed it on there pcs that dont have enugh ram or processing memory to run it efficently aslong as you have a good engine under the hood and enough memory vista is alright.
of course it failed...shit is basically beta...and they're charging major gwop for motherfuckers to "upgrade" to trash which will make you pull your hair out and down grade back to your original OS....sad to say, but Microsoft isn't the same since Bill Gates left...Vista is trash, Xbox 360 is eh..., and my Zune is starting to piss me the fuck off...
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My Vista Ultimate is running flawless. The only problem i have with Vista is compatibility problems with software, that's why i have my system setup for dual boot. Getting the right driver's was a problem when it first launched, but they fixed that with the updates. Slower systems will have more problems.
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Asus P5N-E SLI
Quad Core Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
4 GB DDR2
GeForce 7600 GT
C:200GB
E:100
External 1TB Mybook World
External 500GB Mybook
LiteOn DVDRW DVD DL LH20A1L
Sony DRU 510
Sound Blaster Audigy
It’s just too easy for people to pick on something these days and Vista has become everyone’s favorite punching bag. Complaints usually surround performance issues, file transfer problems or the fact that it doesn’t support older peripherals.
Maybe Microsoft could have done better, maybe Windows 7 will be what Vista was supposed to be but for the meantime with Windows XP driver support ending, you will use Vista with your new hardware whether you want to or not.
Having said that, one reader of The Mercury News couldn’t help but give his thoughts on Vista and suggested “Vista OS should be renamed Vista B.O.S. (Bloated Operating System).”
He said that Vista took two minutes to boot and become usable and that it used 750MB of memory with nothing open and around 900MB with one program open.
I achieved similar memory usage stats but I’d disagree with him on the boot times, my laptop and desktop both boot Vista to a usable state in 30 to 45 seconds.
But then again, he’s using AOL, I don’t think I need to comment on that. AOL, come on guy, AOL?
Rather than continue down that line of thought, here are some ways to make Vista start up faster, disable unneeded startup items in msconfig (type msconfig in the search box, press enter and go to the Startup tab, uncheck items you don’t need but leave your Firewall, anti-virus and malware protection entries alone).
Things that are safe to disable include things like “helper service,” iTunes and Quicktime entries can be disabled (those services start with the applications anyway), Adobe entries, Java entries (starts as needed but is not necessary at boot), any burning application (Nero, for example), IM applications (Yahoo, AIM, Google Talk, et al) and plenty of other things but I can’t list them all here.
Additionally, turn off unnecessary system services (and which ones that you can turn off really depend on how and where you use your computer) but this list is a good place to start. To disable system services, right click “Computer” go to “Manage” and then “Services and Applications.”
Instead of complaining about how “bloated” or “slow” it is, maybe Vista users should consider looking this up for themselves.
What does that mean exactly? Resource hog? My laptop runs it just fine. It's got a gig and a half of ram and apps, games and stuff run just fine and I don't lock up at all. Are you talking about computers running 512 and less?
-VG
Vista is ok the only problem i had was with my sprint card. Most companys was not ready for vista. thats what a sprint service guy told me after he said sorry i cant help you with the sprint card/ vista problems.
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