Gucci Mane vs Ghostface Killah
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First... You using that dumb saying "bruh", already tells me you're not that bright....
Second... You have to be brain dead to listen to Gucci Lame... The radio forces that garbage down these young cats throat....and it's not ART!!!
Third... I agree with the not hating your own peeps part. Don't let the generational gap divide us brothers... If it does, the white mutant has already won...
EVERYTHING IN BOLD IS TRUE.
AND YOU SHOULD HAVE ADDED DUDE. REAL THUGS DONT WORK.DONT HAVE JOBS. AND I THINK YOU DUDE IS WHAT THEY CALL A "POSER" TRY TO FIT IN ANYWHERE THEY CAN.
ahhhh i see my youtube vids are getting love, thanks jagi!
on to the subject, Whoever listens to Gucci Mane and says him and ghost spit the same thing needs to add a disclaimer that they never listened to ghost heavy, or even sorta, ghost rhymes about poverty, about the struggle, about abstract shit, man listen here's a gucci (or project pat) challenge
Find me the equivalent of these tracks
The Watch
Verse from Impossible
The Forest (give up now)
Wildflower
All that i got is You
Malcom
The Mask (mf doom joint)
aahhh man i could go on and on
ghost was one of the first (not the first) cats who didnt mind being vulnerable on tracks, he been showing us the other side of being a player, been showing us the other side of being a hustler, family man, etc. so many layers to ghost its a shame to call yourself a hip hop head and not know that.
on to the subject, Whoever listens to Gucci Mane and says him and ghost spit the same thing needs to add a disclaimer that they never listened to ghost heavy, or even sorta, ghost rhymes about poverty, about the struggle, about abstract shit, man listen here's a gucci (or project pat) challenge
Find me the equivalent of these tracks
The Watch
Verse from Impossible
The Forest (give up now)
Wildflower
All that i got is You
Malcom
The Mask (mf doom joint)
aahhh man i could go on and on
ghost was one of the first (not the first) cats who didnt mind being vulnerable on tracks, he been showing us the other side of being a player, been showing us the other side of being a hustler, family man, etc. so many layers to ghost its a shame to call yourself a hip hop head and not know that.
Naw I just don't think they should be compared. 2 different style there from 2 diferent eras. Not saying that Ghost doesn't do his thing right now. I used to be a really big Wu fanatic back in the day. And when Gucci came out I thought he was one of the worst rappers ever. But last year I really started to listen to his shit and became a fan. Him and his producer Zaytoven really got there own sound and I respect that shit because it bangs and that nigga is hilarious. I just think some of yall niggas never really listened to any of his shit or can't relate to it.
Gucci Mane "Mr. Perfect"
http://rapidshare.com/files/116252232/Gucci_Mane-Mr._Perfect__Hosted_By_DJ_Ace_-_Bootleg_-2008.rar
I'll take GhostFace for a 1000 Alex. His word play and the pictures he paints are crazy. Gucci mane mr zone 1-12 sitting in the trap 8 hrs a day. Setting drugs in the trap in the hood. Buying gucci but living in da hood. Get the hell outta here. Boys in the hood crack babies.
Nigga Ghostface talks about the SAME SHIT.
And he's fucking 38
Oh I forgot who I was talking to...
Gucci doesn't but Pat does...
Im not adding any disclaimer. I dont have to.
I know Ghost's catalogue as well as you do. But having said that Ghost still spits goon shit about pumping cracks, robbing dudes, rolling dice, smoking dust, fucking ghetto bitches, his shit is pure 100% Stapleton project life regardless of how artistic he may portray it.
Whether its more creative is another question altogether, but dont cry about how rapping about guns and crack is so bad for black America like homie did, and then praise Ghost because he's on the same shit.
Perhaps it is you who needs to spit the disclaimer if you can honestly tell me you are not aware that Ghost references the same lifestyle and behavior Gucci does.
Exactly. Niggas on here hear a single or two then argue like they experts. They did the same shit to Lil Wayne until he flooded the game with so many mixtapes that even the most insulated NY nigga had to come across some hot shit and give credit where due.
Just cause niggas is too lazy to do due diligence doesnt mean they are informed enough to make a credible argument.
I think the bigger point is that people from Ghost era will acknowledge that there is something better and talk about it as quickly as they'll talk about all of the hood shit. Some of those "trap" rappers think they heads are going to explode if they show knowledge or anything that isn't trap related.
Check the intro to The Purple Tape.
Well if we are talking the bigger point then yes I absolutely agree.
Again it isnt the content its the presentation.
Few would argue that Scorcese is anything short of a genius, or that Coppola isnt one of the best who ever did it.
But to complain about the Sopranos demeaning Italians with bad stereotypes and then say, award Scorcese a Knights of Columbus image award would be a bullshit double standard, thats all I am trying to point out.
Why do you want me to check the intro to the purple tape? I was just listening to it yesterday...what about it?
The whole "Tired of this street bullshit there's more to life than this" theme?
Again it isnt the content its the presentation.
Few would argue that Scorcese is anything short of a genius, or that Coppola isnt one of the best who ever did it.
But to complain about the Sopranos demeaning Italians with bad stereotypes and then say, award Scorcese a Knights of Columbus image award would be a bullshit double standard, thats all I am trying to point out.
Why do you want me to check the intro to the purple tape? I was just listening to it yesterday...what about it?
The whole "Tired of this street bullshit there's more to life than this" theme?
"If you ever come to East Atlanta...ask anybody is Gucci gangsta?"
so.... what the fuck does that have to do with his music???
I feel that.
The intro Ghost set it off during the intro and each song talked about everything from the grimey streets shit to some high science
"Dedicated to man who build Pyramids!!!!"
Fuck East Atlanta. Its' musik nigga kats don't live their life by it. Let me take that back I was talking about the south.
Im saying its better that than shit like in the D where Cheddar Boys are too busy killing each other over beef than making music. Then you got Trick Trick with his superthug ass, and RIP Proof but damn maybe yall niggas keep it slightly TOO real. Whats the good use of street cred if you dont live long enough to cash it in and transition out of the game?
cause nobody's trying sign any artists from detroit, so they treat the rap game just like the dope game still. get what you can get out of it and handle anybody in your way.
plus
eminem aint trying to sign nobody, and he knows where all the good mc's in detroit are, but proof had so much beef with most of the lyrical niggas in the "D" Em aint gon fuck with them on the strength of that, i hope people don't think D-12 was actually the best rappers in detroit like Em said.
first off i wasnt even directing that to you, but since the line did address you indirectly let me state that, yes i listened to gucci mane, i have some of his songs in my car now. No i havent listened to Gucci as much as Ghost, but thats because of time, content, and age slash priorities i have now (as opposed to when i was a kid)
Secondly, i never was one to say portraying what goes on in the hood is bad, i will say that if you can't do it cleverly or by inserting gems in here and there then its counter productive. Look at any of my past posts on hip hop, i love Styles P, whenever any cat i know spit street shit, i always says if your gonna take that avenue you should try to be more creative, you either gotta be at or past a styles p level or try something different.
Gucci's two biggest weapons IMO is his humour and his credibility to say he really does what he raps about. Both of these things aren't high enough to match the strengths of Ghostface. that was my point in saying to say they say the same shit is wrong. Yes they have overlapping subject matter, but please believe from what i've heard, Gucci has never tackled the subject matters that Ghost has, even though Ghost has tackled the ones that gucci has (except being a blood)
Finally, my whole point was that the OP missed an opportunity to bridge the gap with his younger fellows as well as build a relationship with his younger workers that could have flourished and opened their eyes, im in the hood with the young boys about 2-3 days a week, and we talk about how fashion is gay now, they think it isnt i dont preach, but they always watch videos in my cars and talk about music, so what do i do i bring the jada milli verse (tight clothes tight pants all these homosapiens) the lloyd banks freestyle (im a g, tight clothes aint my thang yo) or even the jap city (chi cats dissing the whole homo culture) that way i m not preaching but i m inserting lil bits of what i think will reach them, as well as bringing whack ass shit like Splash in the ride for them.
Again, i know you know your hip hop i ve seen your posts in other threads, but truth be told Ghost is more than just what ppl are saying, he doesnt just spit babble ( i challenge anyone to quote a line that they think is pure babble and im sure i can find the meaning of it.....
) and he drops gems since his first memorable verse on After the Laughter all the way to Purple tape to Big Doe Rehab fuck with that steak it'll feed ya!co-sign. (except for the tone of your last line)
first off i wasnt even directing that to you, but since the line did address you indirectly let me state that, yes i listened to gucci mane, i have some of his songs in my car now. No i havent listened to Gucci as much as Ghost, but thats because of time, content, and age slash priorities i have now (as opposed to when i was a kid)
Secondly, i never was one to say portraying what goes on in the hood is bad, i will say that if you can't do it cleverly or by inserting gems in here and there then its counter productive. Look at any of my past posts on hip hop, i love Styles P, whenever any cat i know spit street shit, i always says if your gonna take that avenue you should try to be more creative, you either gotta be at or past a styles p level or try something different.
Gucci's two biggest weapons IMO is his humour and his credibility to say he really does what he raps about. Both of these things aren't high enough to match the strengths of Ghostface. that was my point in saying to say they say the same shit is wrong. Yes they have overlapping subject matter, but please believe from what i've heard, Gucci has never tackled the subject matters that Ghost has, even though Ghost has tackled the ones that gucci has (except being a blood)
Finally, my whole point was that the OP missed an opportunity to bridge the gap with his younger fellows as well as build a relationship with his younger workers that could have flourished and opened their eyes, im in the hood with the young boys about 2-3 days a week, and we talk about how fashion is gay now, they think it isnt i dont preach, but they always watch videos in my cars and talk about music, so what do i do i bring the jada milli verse (tight clothes tight pants all these homosapiens) the lloyd banks freestyle (im a g, tight clothes aint my thang yo) or even the jap city (chi cats dissing the whole homo culture) that way i m not preaching but i m inserting lil bits of what i think will reach them, as well as bringing whack ass shit like Splash in the ride for them.
Again, i know you know your hip hop i ve seen your posts in other threads, but truth be told Ghost is more than just what ppl are saying, he doesnt just spit babble ( i challenge anyone to quote a line that they think is pure babble and im sure i can find the meaning of it.....
Agree, sorry if I seemed too disrespectful LOL
Thats one of his lyrics.
"Gucci don't care, scale like yeah, Mojo's there, Eggbeater's there, R.I.P. to Block Beater, OJ's there (Juiccccccce), Oh my god it's Zone 6 year (yeahhhhhhh)" 
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