you may as well have just hit the space bar a bunch of timesYou said "Wes making himself"
hence my comment.
The only thing I got from what you said is "he's been a friend of the family" so ....he's a friend of your family...
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Man, you really should have never addressed me in the first place. All you really wanted to say is that your family knew him & that has nothing to do with nothing. I don't care about your perceived closeness to him.
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Felt that one coming from the first response lol
I just corrected you. Nobody cares that I know him. But it mattered to me (in the moment) that you couldn't control your impulse to throw baseless dirt on one of ours doing good out here.
Get ahold of yourself nigga.
You corrected nobody, you tried correcting me when I said establishment money was behind him and you said that you already know that so make it make sense! You basically are going back and forth with me about nothing.
You must be bored or something. Tip for you, logoff and, hey, for fun go to your local dead mall or something.
Hopefully we can just reset here! No need for sniping at each other!
So it seems that you both agree that he has establishment money behind him, you just disagree as to what "making himself" means.
The amount of time SJ and his people have known him is relevant to "Obama 2.0"-- Somebody who knew Moore before Obama was even someone to emulate can speak knowledgably about whether he is his own person or a rebrand.
But everyone watching his moves in public life is not just "guessing and speculating"-- A lot of people were making themselves before they sold out. Some would say that's what Obama did. And knowing Obama in the 90s and being able to speak to his character wasn't essential to judging his presidency, who he surrounded himself with, and who he was really working for.
WBF, I'd be interested to know what establishment money and ties specifically inform your opinion.
So it seems that you both agree that he has establishment money behind him, you just disagree as to what "making himself" means.
The amount of time SJ and his people have known him is relevant to "Obama 2.0"-- Somebody who knew Moore before Obama was even someone to emulate can speak knowledgably about whether he is his own person or a rebrand.
But everyone watching his moves in public life is not just "guessing and speculating"-- A lot of people were making themselves before they sold out. Some would say that's what Obama did. And knowing Obama in the 90s and being able to speak to his character wasn't essential to judging his presidency, who he surrounded himself with, and who he was really working for.
WBF, I'd be interested to know what establishment money and ties specifically inform your opinion.
I am not funded by the establishment so it does not inform my opinion in any way. The only PAC money I have is what I paid for old TuPAC CDs back in the day.
SJ depicted you as "throwing baseless dirt on one of ours doing good out here." I was trying to give you a chance to demonstrate a basis and it seems like you don't have one.
I was asking what establishment money and ties Wes Moore has that inform your opinion of him.
Why did you call him Obama 2.0 and in what way is he establishment?
Continue to be disappointed then.....
I look at this as the official Wes Moore thread-- Nobody would check for the speech if not for the updates.
Intellectually dishonest dodge about the intent behind both of our statements.
But you may just actually be dim.
Your jokes support the latter hypothesis but stick with me, you might learn something.
I'll agree with the first part and say that the second is the only one that matters, if even that.
We grown, niggas know what's being said even when it's being said slick. The implication of his statement was that he was under the thumb of negative influence. I rebuffed the statement, while also presenting the idea that there is no such thing as campaign without financial backing. Two separate points.
A nigga was on some hater shit, plain and simple. And for no reason pending a substantive answer to your question.
Dude served in the military, and turned his intellect and charisma into a fruitful career. He's a good husband and dad and a generally cool nigga that's vocal and kinetic in his support of black causes and blackness. I'd have responded that way to anybody.
I don't have all day to shoot the shit with you & your friend, if you don't agree with me so be it. Again, the only reason you responded to me was to brag about how you know him, that's all.
Check in next week and give us one piece of evidence as to why his establishment money and ties should be of concern. Just one fact.
I support him. Brag is some shit a hatin ass nigga would call it.
you 2 for 2
i don't care anymore either though, so we got that going for us at least.
Man......u just pressed. So you know him, OK I hear you, you're his number one fanboy, I get it. Do U......
"Moore’s campaign spent almost as much in the past year as it raised — more than $2.1 million."
Um... That's a lot to spend for a guy who is not up for re-election until 2026.
Moore’s campaign staff rang up meal expenditures in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Martha’s Vineyard, Nantucket, Atlantic City, Sag Harbor on Long Island, Jersey City, Louisville (where Moore attended the Kentucky Derby), Frankfort, Ky., Asheville, N.C., Washington, D.C., and more. One expenditure was for campaign staff meals at a Wawa in Runnemede, N.J.
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Moore’s campaign report was also stuffed with big donations from special interest groups, many with business before the state: real estate developers, lawyers, health care executives, bankers, tech entrepreneurs and State House lobbyists.
This is very interesting... Moore was such a pussy during his campaign that he was asked to grade Hogan in October 2022 and he said either TBD or incomplete because Hogan's term wasn't finished yet. 
I'm a little surprised to see him willing to take him on even now.
Democrats plan to use Maryland Gov. Wes Moore as a first line of attack against Larry Hogan, the state's former Republican governor who is now running for Senate, Axios has learned.
Why it matters: Hogan's decision to jump into the Senate contest has thrown a safely Democratic seat into play for Republicans.
I'm a little surprised to see him willing to take him on even now.Scoop: Dems turn to Wes Moore to weaken Larry Hogan’s surprise Senate bid
Democrats plan to use Maryland Gov. Wes Moore as a first line of attack against Larry Hogan, the state's former Republican governor who is now running for Senate, Axios has learned.
Why it matters: Hogan's decision to jump into the Senate contest has thrown a safely Democratic seat into play for Republicans.
- The seat is open: Longtime Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) is not seeking-re-election.
- Moore plans to launch an offensive against Hogan's record as governor in the coming months, three sources told Axios.
- The attacks on Hogan's record will sour a mostly rosy relationship between the two governors.
- "The relationship was very cordial," the Democratic source said. "They were very kind to each other."
- "Anyone who thinks that there is no threat to women's reproductive rights and abortion access is delusional," Moore said on X, formerly Twitter.
- Hogan fired back at Moore's "delusional" comment, telling Fox 5 that Moore "ought to pay attention to his day job."
- Democrats are deeply skeptical of the polling data, according to multiple senior national Democratic strategists who spoke to Axios.
- A poll released last week by Emerson showed Hogan tied with Trone and leading Alsobrooks, with a large chunk of voters still undecided.
He was on MSNBC’s 11th Hour last night… I just listened to the audio version. They didn’t post it to YouTube but he practically had Stephanie Ruhle’s panties soaked. He might be the best politician at giving interviews.
I’m a substance over style person but I gotta give credit where due, his political style is 10/10.
I’m not sure that will get him in the White House because he seems better for a general election than a primary but he definitely has a chance.
This "loyalty" framework is unimpressive to me. This is about the future of the country, not who has "had your back" over the last year and a half.
Less than 48 hours after President Biden’s halting debate performance launched Democrats into a panic, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore was in an awkward position.
Pundits and party leaders had floated his name as a possible Biden replacement atop the ticket, and Moore, a rising Democratic star and one of the party’s most persuasive speakers, had to decide what message to give a banquet hall full of anxious Black activists in this critical swing state.
The nation’s lone Black governor — and the youngest Democrat to run a state — chose loyalty, selling 81-year-old Biden as the future.
Days later, Moore chose loyalty again as he stood in front of the White House and told reporters: “The president has always had our backs. We’re going to have his back as well.”
And on Monday, Moore remained steadfast, joining Biden on a call with the campaign’s National Finance Committee to reassure donors.
“I am thankful for him, for his leadership, because I’ve seen it firsthand,” Moore told them, according to a partial transcript from the Biden-Harris campaign. “When the odds are stacked against him, he rises. … Joe Biden has told us he is all-in this election, and I have told him that Maryland is all-in for him.”
While many surrogates have stood by Biden as questions about the president’s mental acuity threatened to undermine the Democratic ticket, Moore has been among the earliest and most forceful in setting himself on the front line of defense.
Moore has promised to go “anywhere and everywhere” to make the case for a Biden administration and given more than two dozen interviews supporting the president since the debate. He’s volunteered as both “a full-throated” advocate for Biden staying in the race and as an envoy to the disaffected Black voters crucial to a Democratic win.
“I don’t do disloyalty,” Moore, 45, said in an interview with The Washington Post. “The president is our nation’s leader, and the president is a fantastic partner for me.”
A Rhodes scholar and an Army veteran raised by a single, immigrant mother, Moore has just 18 months as a politician under his belt and his own moonshot policy goals.
He needs a federal partner to help keep his campaign promises that require an infusion of federal cash — among them, ending child poverty, delivering 100 percent clean energy and building a multibillion-dollar transit line in Baltimore to combat generations of disinvestment.
Back in February, Biden singled out Moore — who has also been an investment banker, a nonprofit chief and published five books — as a rising force during a Black history month event at the White House, telling the crowd to “watch this guy.”
In returning that affection since the debate, Moore has become a test case in whether Biden could keep his promise to be a “bridge” to the next generation of Democratic leaders.
Moore told The Post that the unease he felt watching the debate was sufficiently soothed by his Oval Office meeting with Biden and Vice President Harris.
“I had real concerns,” he said. “People’s concerns should not be underestimated. … In addition to watching the president not have a good debate at all, you also saw what the alternative looks like. And the fact that Donald Trump thinks he had a good debate should be terrifying to people.”
Privately, Moore told his aides it was time for the governors to “mount up” and help Biden. The president had delivered on every promise he made to Moore — including critical assistance needed to reopen the Port of Baltimore after a container ship toppled the Francis Scott Key Bridge into the channel in March.
As Moore left the Oval Office, after watching the president talk and interact with people, he told his chief of staff, “He needs us, and I think he can do it.”
Publicly, Moore shared that the governors had a frank airing of their worries with Biden. “When you love someone, you tell the truth.”
Moore is in a pivotal moment in his political trajectory, one that could define his prominence in the Democratic Party and potentially afford him a role at the Democratic National Convention, which has launched other prominent figures, including former president Barack Obama in 2004.
Regardless of who stays atop the ticket or what happens at the convention, Moore will spend his summer as he did in his six-stop visit to Wisconsin: campaigning for the Democratic nominee while burnishing his reputation as an inspiring speaker the party needs and connecting with Black voters.
As Moore waited to speak to the Kenosha Black Coalition, the local leader introducing him spun through his many titles — a military man, a father, an entrepreneur.
“Most of all, he looks like us, right?” Alderman Kenny Harper said, prompting the room to erupt in applause.
Moore rolled through the talking points from Biden advisers — insulin costs capped at $35, Black wealth up by 60 percent — but also deployed his own. A Democratic president, he argued, was critical to his own dreams of dismantling systems that hold back Black families.
“I don’t come from a political family,” Moore said. “I had to convince members of my family to vote for me. And it’s not because my family and I aren’t cool — my family and I are cool — it’s just that I had to convince them to vote.”
“Say it again, brother,” Anthony Davis, 70, a retired Chrysler worker from Kenosha County said from the back.
“We need a surrogate that we can relate to, that a person of color can relate to,” Davis said later as his mother waited in the line to snap a photo with Moore. “Other people, they come to speak to you, and sometimes you don’t always hear what they’re saying.”
In a Washington Post-Schar School poll of swing-state voters in six key states, including Wisconsin, for example, nearly 3 out of 10 Black registered voters say they will “definitely” or “probably” vote for Trump. In a state often decided by a hairbreadth — Trump won in 2016 and Biden in 2020 — even a small shift among Black voters in Wisconsin could determine the outcome.
To the task of empowering a network of Black activists, Moore brings skills suited to the motivational speaker circuit and instant credibility.
Wisconsin Democratic Party Chairman Ben Wikler described Moore as standing apart from other surrogates for his speaking skills and ability to talk to people in any community.
“The most dangerous thing in a democracy is a feeling of helplessness,” Wikler said. “And Gov. Moore’s message to voters that they have enormous power and enormous opportunity to make a difference … that message meets a deeply felt need for people.”
At a cookout in Milwaukee, home to 70 percent of the state’s Black voters, an impromptu receiving line formed as soon as Moore’s SUV pulled onto the grass at a city park.
The line of Black community leaders stretched from the picnic pavilion’s charcoal grills to the foam machine. The speakers belted ’90s R&B, and Moore acted like he just landed at a family reunion, doling out hugs to strangers.
He asked for people’s middle names. He embraced one woman as she rubbed her cheek into his. He reluctantly autographed one woman’s book about Maryland, because he hadn’t written it.
At an earlier stop, he had happily signed three of his books for a 12-year-old boy who said his teacher had encouraged him to look at Moore as a role model. On the trail, Moore tells a deeply personal story from one of those books: When he was 3, his father died in front of him at home after being discharged from the emergency room with a treatable but deadly infection. In Wisconsin, he told a crowd how much Black men need health-care providers who understand “these unspoken realities of what it means to be a Black man in society.”
At the cookout, Moore took the mic to set the stage for what needed to be done.
“I just want to be clear, man, everything is a policy decision,” he said.
“The air that we breathe is a policy decision,” he said. “The water we drink is a policy decision. The schools our children attend is a policy decision. The transportation assets we have or don’t have is a policy decision. The way that people are policed is a policy decision. The homes that people live in, those are policy decisions.”
“Everything comes back to: Who do we have representing us and who sees us? Sees us as assets and not as deficits? Sees us not as things that need to be fixed, but things that need to be celebrated?”
Biden and Harris, he said, saw their community’s struggles and deserved the community’s help in return.
He tied his own fate to the administration’s, spinning through his own accomplishments from his first 18 months in office and saying it would not have been possible without the Biden administration’s support, including the reopening of the port, record-low unemployment and the 175,000 pardons he issued for marijuana convictions.
“I don’t come from a family that is used to making the policies,” he said in Kenosha. “Frankly, I come from a family that’s used to suffering the consequences of them.” The 8-to-1 racial wealth gap does not exist, he said, “because one group was working eight times harder.”
He told them he felt their skepticism, too.
“Honestly, cynicism will always be my companion, because I know our histories,” he said. “But we also have to be honest about this, too: It feels good to have an administration who actually wants to address the structural challenges instead of compounding them.”
“I’m going to spend these next months giving it all I’ve got,” he said. “Because our children deserve it.”
Moore said that while he came on behalf of the president, he stood before them to talk about what resided within the congregation.
“I’m not here to talk about the power of Joe Biden,” he boomed. “I’m here to talk about the power of us. And our power does not come from who sits in the White House.”
“My brother, my brother,” a church leader said from the front row.
Minutes later, Moore’s team raced him across town to catch the last few hours of the service at Canaan Baptist Church. Moore, the grandson of a preacher who helped raise him, had taken notes in his personal Bible throughout both sermons and invoked the Book of Joshua. He told the faithful that their ancestors and their future needed them to put in the work before November’s election.
“I’m here in Wisconsin … because I’m talking to la-di-da-di everybody to say we need to make sure we get out there,” he said.
“We go out there and we work. Because everything that we hoped for, everything that we inherited and everything that we dream about is on the line. And we have got to make sure that our voices are heard, and that when history is written, that our fingerprints are all over it.”
Amid the “amens” and the “that’s rights” rippling through the congregation, from the fourth pew Tommie Reed Green, 81, said aloud, “He seems to me the next Barack Obama. He does, he does.”
When the service ended, Reed Green snaked through the crowd and waited her turn to greet Moore. She whispered her Obama prediction in his ear.
Moore’s broad smile widened further.
“God bless you,” he said.
Wes Moore, in working to prevent Biden’s fall, is helping his own rise
Maryland’s governor has been all-in for the president amid party despair, courting Black voters while urging donors and the public to stay the course.Less than 48 hours after President Biden’s halting debate performance launched Democrats into a panic, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore was in an awkward position.
Pundits and party leaders had floated his name as a possible Biden replacement atop the ticket, and Moore, a rising Democratic star and one of the party’s most persuasive speakers, had to decide what message to give a banquet hall full of anxious Black activists in this critical swing state.
The nation’s lone Black governor — and the youngest Democrat to run a state — chose loyalty, selling 81-year-old Biden as the future.
Days later, Moore chose loyalty again as he stood in front of the White House and told reporters: “The president has always had our backs. We’re going to have his back as well.”
And on Monday, Moore remained steadfast, joining Biden on a call with the campaign’s National Finance Committee to reassure donors.
“I am thankful for him, for his leadership, because I’ve seen it firsthand,” Moore told them, according to a partial transcript from the Biden-Harris campaign. “When the odds are stacked against him, he rises. … Joe Biden has told us he is all-in this election, and I have told him that Maryland is all-in for him.”
While many surrogates have stood by Biden as questions about the president’s mental acuity threatened to undermine the Democratic ticket, Moore has been among the earliest and most forceful in setting himself on the front line of defense.
Moore has promised to go “anywhere and everywhere” to make the case for a Biden administration and given more than two dozen interviews supporting the president since the debate. He’s volunteered as both “a full-throated” advocate for Biden staying in the race and as an envoy to the disaffected Black voters crucial to a Democratic win.
“I don’t do disloyalty,” Moore, 45, said in an interview with The Washington Post. “The president is our nation’s leader, and the president is a fantastic partner for me.”
A Rhodes scholar and an Army veteran raised by a single, immigrant mother, Moore has just 18 months as a politician under his belt and his own moonshot policy goals.
He needs a federal partner to help keep his campaign promises that require an infusion of federal cash — among them, ending child poverty, delivering 100 percent clean energy and building a multibillion-dollar transit line in Baltimore to combat generations of disinvestment.
Back in February, Biden singled out Moore — who has also been an investment banker, a nonprofit chief and published five books — as a rising force during a Black history month event at the White House, telling the crowd to “watch this guy.”
In returning that affection since the debate, Moore has become a test case in whether Biden could keep his promise to be a “bridge” to the next generation of Democratic leaders.
Moore told The Post that the unease he felt watching the debate was sufficiently soothed by his Oval Office meeting with Biden and Vice President Harris.
“I had real concerns,” he said. “People’s concerns should not be underestimated. … In addition to watching the president not have a good debate at all, you also saw what the alternative looks like. And the fact that Donald Trump thinks he had a good debate should be terrifying to people.”
Privately, Moore told his aides it was time for the governors to “mount up” and help Biden. The president had delivered on every promise he made to Moore — including critical assistance needed to reopen the Port of Baltimore after a container ship toppled the Francis Scott Key Bridge into the channel in March.
As Moore left the Oval Office, after watching the president talk and interact with people, he told his chief of staff, “He needs us, and I think he can do it.”
Publicly, Moore shared that the governors had a frank airing of their worries with Biden. “When you love someone, you tell the truth.”
Moore is in a pivotal moment in his political trajectory, one that could define his prominence in the Democratic Party and potentially afford him a role at the Democratic National Convention, which has launched other prominent figures, including former president Barack Obama in 2004.
Regardless of who stays atop the ticket or what happens at the convention, Moore will spend his summer as he did in his six-stop visit to Wisconsin: campaigning for the Democratic nominee while burnishing his reputation as an inspiring speaker the party needs and connecting with Black voters.
As Moore waited to speak to the Kenosha Black Coalition, the local leader introducing him spun through his many titles — a military man, a father, an entrepreneur.
“Most of all, he looks like us, right?” Alderman Kenny Harper said, prompting the room to erupt in applause.
Moore rolled through the talking points from Biden advisers — insulin costs capped at $35, Black wealth up by 60 percent — but also deployed his own. A Democratic president, he argued, was critical to his own dreams of dismantling systems that hold back Black families.
“I don’t come from a political family,” Moore said. “I had to convince members of my family to vote for me. And it’s not because my family and I aren’t cool — my family and I are cool — it’s just that I had to convince them to vote.”
“Say it again, brother,” Anthony Davis, 70, a retired Chrysler worker from Kenosha County said from the back.
“We need a surrogate that we can relate to, that a person of color can relate to,” Davis said later as his mother waited in the line to snap a photo with Moore. “Other people, they come to speak to you, and sometimes you don’t always hear what they’re saying.”
‘Everything is a policy decision’
Moore’s visit to Wisconsin was his highest-profile surrogacy bid yet, sent to help deploy the Biden campaign’s strategy to persuade Black leaders to help turn out the vote amid polling showing that significantly fewer Black Americans plan to cast a ballot in 2024 than in 2020.In a Washington Post-Schar School poll of swing-state voters in six key states, including Wisconsin, for example, nearly 3 out of 10 Black registered voters say they will “definitely” or “probably” vote for Trump. In a state often decided by a hairbreadth — Trump won in 2016 and Biden in 2020 — even a small shift among Black voters in Wisconsin could determine the outcome.
To the task of empowering a network of Black activists, Moore brings skills suited to the motivational speaker circuit and instant credibility.
Wisconsin Democratic Party Chairman Ben Wikler described Moore as standing apart from other surrogates for his speaking skills and ability to talk to people in any community.
“The most dangerous thing in a democracy is a feeling of helplessness,” Wikler said. “And Gov. Moore’s message to voters that they have enormous power and enormous opportunity to make a difference … that message meets a deeply felt need for people.”
At a cookout in Milwaukee, home to 70 percent of the state’s Black voters, an impromptu receiving line formed as soon as Moore’s SUV pulled onto the grass at a city park.
The line of Black community leaders stretched from the picnic pavilion’s charcoal grills to the foam machine. The speakers belted ’90s R&B, and Moore acted like he just landed at a family reunion, doling out hugs to strangers.
He asked for people’s middle names. He embraced one woman as she rubbed her cheek into his. He reluctantly autographed one woman’s book about Maryland, because he hadn’t written it.
At an earlier stop, he had happily signed three of his books for a 12-year-old boy who said his teacher had encouraged him to look at Moore as a role model. On the trail, Moore tells a deeply personal story from one of those books: When he was 3, his father died in front of him at home after being discharged from the emergency room with a treatable but deadly infection. In Wisconsin, he told a crowd how much Black men need health-care providers who understand “these unspoken realities of what it means to be a Black man in society.”
At the cookout, Moore took the mic to set the stage for what needed to be done.
“I just want to be clear, man, everything is a policy decision,” he said.
“The air that we breathe is a policy decision,” he said. “The water we drink is a policy decision. The schools our children attend is a policy decision. The transportation assets we have or don’t have is a policy decision. The way that people are policed is a policy decision. The homes that people live in, those are policy decisions.”
“Everything comes back to: Who do we have representing us and who sees us? Sees us as assets and not as deficits? Sees us not as things that need to be fixed, but things that need to be celebrated?”
Biden and Harris, he said, saw their community’s struggles and deserved the community’s help in return.
He tied his own fate to the administration’s, spinning through his own accomplishments from his first 18 months in office and saying it would not have been possible without the Biden administration’s support, including the reopening of the port, record-low unemployment and the 175,000 pardons he issued for marijuana convictions.
“I don’t come from a family that is used to making the policies,” he said in Kenosha. “Frankly, I come from a family that’s used to suffering the consequences of them.” The 8-to-1 racial wealth gap does not exist, he said, “because one group was working eight times harder.”
He told them he felt their skepticism, too.
“Honestly, cynicism will always be my companion, because I know our histories,” he said. “But we also have to be honest about this, too: It feels good to have an administration who actually wants to address the structural challenges instead of compounding them.”
“I’m going to spend these next months giving it all I’ve got,” he said. “Because our children deserve it.”
‘Next Barack Obama’
The next morning, at the end of the service at Milwaukee’s Pilgrim Rest Missionary Baptist Church, Moore took the pulpit.Moore said that while he came on behalf of the president, he stood before them to talk about what resided within the congregation.
“I’m not here to talk about the power of Joe Biden,” he boomed. “I’m here to talk about the power of us. And our power does not come from who sits in the White House.”
“My brother, my brother,” a church leader said from the front row.
Minutes later, Moore’s team raced him across town to catch the last few hours of the service at Canaan Baptist Church. Moore, the grandson of a preacher who helped raise him, had taken notes in his personal Bible throughout both sermons and invoked the Book of Joshua. He told the faithful that their ancestors and their future needed them to put in the work before November’s election.
“I’m here in Wisconsin … because I’m talking to la-di-da-di everybody to say we need to make sure we get out there,” he said.
“We go out there and we work. Because everything that we hoped for, everything that we inherited and everything that we dream about is on the line. And we have got to make sure that our voices are heard, and that when history is written, that our fingerprints are all over it.”
Amid the “amens” and the “that’s rights” rippling through the congregation, from the fourth pew Tommie Reed Green, 81, said aloud, “He seems to me the next Barack Obama. He does, he does.”
When the service ended, Reed Green snaked through the crowd and waited her turn to greet Moore. She whispered her Obama prediction in his ear.
Moore’s broad smile widened further.
“God bless you,” he said.
FIRST IN PLAYBOOK: WHAT DEMOCRATS ARE READING — This polling memo (h/t JMart) from BlueLabs Analytics is circulating among party officials still keen to convince JOE BIDEN to step aside and prevent his party from suffering what many fear will be a historic loss to DONALD TRUMP.
The topline findings from interviews with over 15,000 voters in seven battleground states:
In other words: not Kamala Harris.
The strongest potential candidates are (in alphabetical order) Arizona Sen. MARK KELLY, Maryland Gov. WES MOORE, Pennsylvania Gov. JOSH SHAPIRO and Michigan Gov. GRETCHEN WHITMER. All four outpaced Biden “by roughly 5 points across battleground states.”
This data supports the views of strategists like JAMES CARVILLE and those arguing that blindly rallying around Harris would be as big a mistake as blindly supporting Biden’s reelection was. “Nearly twice as many voters say delegates should nominate the best candidate over picking the next in line,” the memo says. This faction of the #DumpBiden movement wants an open process to replace Biden — who, by the way, still says he has no intention of stepping aside.
The topline findings from interviews with over 15,000 voters in seven battleground states:
- “Alternative Democratic candidates run ahead of President Biden by an average of three points across the battleground states. Nearly every tested Democrat performs better than the President. This includes Vice President [KAMALA] HARRIS who runs better than the President (but behind the average alternative).”
- “Some of the gains are coming from winning undecideds and those previously supporting a third party. However, alternative candidates are also pulling votes from Donald Trump. All candidates continue to hold the Democratic base.”
- “Voters are looking for a fresh face. Those more closely tied to the current administration perform relatively worse than other tested candidates.”
In other words: not Kamala Harris.
The strongest potential candidates are (in alphabetical order) Arizona Sen. MARK KELLY, Maryland Gov. WES MOORE, Pennsylvania Gov. JOSH SHAPIRO and Michigan Gov. GRETCHEN WHITMER. All four outpaced Biden “by roughly 5 points across battleground states.”
This data supports the views of strategists like JAMES CARVILLE and those arguing that blindly rallying around Harris would be as big a mistake as blindly supporting Biden’s reelection was. “Nearly twice as many voters say delegates should nominate the best candidate over picking the next in line,” the memo says. This faction of the #DumpBiden movement wants an open process to replace Biden — who, by the way, still says he has no intention of stepping aside.
Incumbent advantage. They don't just raise funds during an election year. That re-election campaign war chest starts early. Hence, why it's meaningless pissing in the wind for a few Dems to say Biden should step down at the 11th hour of an election year.
That's not a relevant point if Kamala is the replacement, as I think she should be.
There's not going to be a replacement, so your point is moot. Additionally, the VP is not guaranteed those funds, which could get transferred to Democratic committees backing OTHER candidates. or even punted down the next election.
There's reality and then there is manufactured media hype.
Thank you, Carnac.
I don't know where you're getting that from. But this isn't the thread for this discussion.
You can share your source here if you have one:
Will Biden Allow Another Dem To Challenge Trump? He has the lowest approval rating of the CENTURY for the start of a re-election year!
Biden must step down by the time of the Democratic convention or Trump will be president. It is possible that only the Stormy Daniels hush money trial will conclude before the election... ... so those who were hoping those much-discussed 91 indictments would crush Trump seem to be fucked...
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You're welcome. You're the one that brought up Kamala.
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