GOTHAM: New 'young' Batman - themed series on FOX

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still got her....


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fight was crazy by the way........:yes:

still not sure why he ran tho...looked like he had her beat...




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anyway bitch accurate as fuck with that knife...





:yes:




still mad they made her ass gay...


now she mad her bitch in a coma and want revenge...:hmm:


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She is f&cking unbelievable.

I luv that woman.
 
Took a major step forward this week. It went from a good, quality show. To must see TV. It's up there with Fargo IMO for best on network TV. Fantastic episode.


wouldnt go that far but i wait 4 it every wk...

i almost gave up on it last season...Gordon just still cant fucking act...:smh:

:lol:


anyway i think this so far is the biggest mistake...killing off the joker...

dude killed that role...

not that being said...paying homage to Heath Ledger`s Joker or just straight jacked his style...?:confused:


v v v v v v v


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they cast the fuck out this show,,,again except Gordon....:lol:

Riddler Killed it , Penguin Killed it...Alfred, shit even cat...


:rolleyes:
 
wouldnt go that far but i wait 4 it every wk...

i almost gave up on it last season...Gordon just still cant fucking act...:smh:

:lol:


anyway i think this so far is the biggest mistake...killing off the joker...

dude killed that role...

not that being said...paying homage to Heath Ledger`s Joker or just straight jacked his style...?:confused:


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they cast the fuck out this show,,,again except Gordon....:lol:

Riddler Killed it , Penguin Killed it...Alfred, shit even cat...


:rolleyes:

agreed...

frustrating show still but damn more enjoyable

like I said earlier look how all the villains straight JACKED Jada's style from the first season.

I think its more the writing than Gordon's acting cause he was great on southland and the OC.

The showrunner is FINALLY using all the stuff he learned on the mentalist on THIS show and that's why its working.
 
dam...this last episode...they on some execution shit...
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Penguin & Gordon... shit getting crazy...lol
 
I don't know...

this is very frustrating ridiculous illogical insane crazy show...

So Gordon is essentially a stone cold VILLAIN now.

period.

Killing people left and right. Basically WORSE than the Riddler.

So they had Fox locked in the basement like an episode of Desperate Housewives.

The dialogue is HORRIBLE

But that damn kid...wow

there are moments when you can SEE the Batman emerging.
 
Episode had every bad cliche in the book. Including the evil Villain speech trope (twice). Really got tired of the weepy eyed Silver chick, but I guess she serves the purpose of making young Bruce less trusting and more calculated.

At the end of day Gordon learns that he can't allow irredeemable characters like Galavan to live. I liked how they used Penguin to push him over the edge since it was Penguin who he let live when he was first asked to cross a line in season one.

Enigma's (de) evolution has been cool to watch and is consistent with the overall dark tone of the show.
 
would have been funny if they did an "in too deep" with that umbrella...lol
 
Was Fish Mooney’s body in one of the Indian Hill containers at the end of the Gotham midseason finale? Because it looked like her from the back of the head. –Joe

It did kind of look like Fish from the back, with the edgy hairstyle and all, but as you can see from this screen grab of the reverse view, that was a younger woman (no offense, Jada!) floating inside the chamber.


 
Gotham: Will We See Jerome Again?

When Jerome Valeska hit the scene of Fox’s Gotham series, little did people suspect that he would be one of the prime candidates for eventually becoming the Joker. However, following his introduction during the first season and the reveal that he was responsible for his mother’s death, Jerome took a serious turn toward being the Clown Prince of Crime in mocking the GCPD while in their custody, as well as twisting the knife on his dear father. In the second season, Jerome was busted free from Arkham Asylum by the big bad of the season, Theo Galavan, and acted as de facto leader to a group of homicidal maniacs aptly named “The Maniax”. Slicing a bloody knife across Gotham City, Jerome exhibited more and more of a character that seemed like a combination of the many “Jokers” we had seen before. Heath Ledger, Jack Nicholson, and even some Mark Hamill were all found in one mannerism or another in Jerome.

As one of Galavan’s big plays, he set Jerome and Barbara Gordon, Jim’s crazed ex-wife, onto a charity fundraiser attended by none other than Bruce Wayne himself. Pretending to be a great magician, Jerome took the crowd hostage and even had a face to face encounter with Bruce that is until he himself was stabbed by his benefactor Galavan in a play to win the public to Theo’s side. It seemed as though that this was the final curtain for Jerome, as the police wheeled him to the morgue, a sinister smile still spread across his face. However, Gotham series’ executive producer John Stephens recently stated at New York Comic Con that this may not be the last we’ve seen of Jerome. Is it possible that Jerome made it out alive? Will he come back to trouble Gotham once again and eventually take the mantle of the one and only Joker? Many fans certainly think so.

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To start, Jerome isn’t truly dead when you think about it, as his spirit lives on in the homicidal minds and hearts of those he influenced with his final televised act. Following his death, we’re granted a look at several random citizens, laughing hysterically and committing various horrifying acts, all seemingly touched by Jerome’s madness. So while he may no longer be in the world of the living, he may very well still be the Joker in the sense that his acts live on through whoever ends up as the most well-known super villain Gotham has ever seen.

This isn’t to say that we can’t believe Jerome managed to escape the Grim Reaper. This is the Batman universe after all, and what would the Joker be if he didn’t escape death dozens of times? Jerome’s origins are steeped in magic and mysticism with his father being a blind fortune teller. Surely the young sociopath has learned a trick or two in his time from his carnie days and who’s to say he didn’t manage to employ some of these in faking his own death? What better show for an audience then to end a performance with the death of the performer himself? In his twisted mind, perhaps Jerome knew all along what Galavan’s plan was and created a plan of his own to avert death.

Another alternative is that Galavan faked the death himself, stabbing Jerome but paying off those who quoted him as dead and picking up “the body” at a later time. Jerome was a significant asset for Galavan and one that he truly seemed remorseful at losing during the episode of his untimely demise. Who’s to say that Theo didn’t have a plan in place to bring Jerome back from the dead and employ him for the use of the Order of St. Dumas? There have also been several hints that the Court of Owls will be appearing this season, and one of their biggest characteristics is resurrecting folks to act as their henchmen. Certainly this would mean that Jerome did in fact die, but maybe he could return as a Talon of the Court later in the season?


From Season 2's mid-season finale, we're given even more of a reason to think that Jerome may be strutting back into the land of the living, as the Indian Hill facility is shown to not only be conducting some shady experiments, but also actively taking in the bodies of the worst criminals Gotham had to offer. With Theo Galavan's body being rolled into their clutches, along with a brief glimpse of what appears to be Fish Mooney, the possibility that Jerome is there as well is certainly stronger than it is weaker. Also, with the Mr. Freeze reveal at the end of the episode, and Victor's background in cryogenics, it's certainly a possibility that Jerome's body was put on ice with the good doctor's assistance.

While it certainly seems that Jerome is deader than a doornail for now, things aren’t always as they seem in the dark, cold streets of Gotham City. Do you think Jerome is truly dead or is he biding his time to strike against Gotham once again?


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Was Fish Mooney’s body in one of the Indian Hill containers at the end of the Gotham midseason finale? Because it looked like her from the back of the head. –Joe

It did kind of look like Fish from the back, with the edgy hairstyle and all, but as you can see from this screen grab of the reverse view, that was a younger woman (no offense, Jada!) floating inside the chamber.


That IS Fish

That camera didn't zoom in the back and side of her distinct hairstyle for nothing
 
The producers are on their confirm-neither-deny bullshit. That's Fish in the lab tank waiting to be experimented on.
 
Jada Pinkett Smith’s Fish Mooney Lives to See Another Season on Gotham

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Jada Pinkett Smith may have last been seen on Gotham sleeping with the fishes, but that doesn't mean she's gone for good: TV Line reports that Smith will make her big return to Gotham later this season, having signed on for "multiple" season-two episodes. The show's first season ended with the Penguin pushing Smith's Fish Mooney into a river, so it's unclear whether she survived or we'll be getting a more ghostly version of Smith when the show picks back up on February 29. In addition to Smith's crusade to get some color in the Oscars' all-white acting-nominations club, she's also set to star in an upcoming ABC legal drama.
 
this show is hella frustrating although I am happy Jada coming back...no one offically is dead or can resurrected.
Gordon killing motherfuckers in cold-blood & his bff is the penguin

this show is on some other shit at times and its best was Jerome. If they gonna bring anyone back let me see another great iteration of the joker come to life.


btw has the Joker been the best comic adaption to tv/film from the Joker from the 60s, to Jack Nicolson, Mark Hamill in the animated series, Heath Ledger and then Jerome. the joker character always seems to deliver


leto you better not drop the ball...you got some big shows to fill
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Just got through watching all the episodes and all I can say is wow! Kept me entertained. But out of all the characters, I think Cat played her role the best. Especially for a kid actor she's doing a good job, shit just seems natural for her....

Also, is it just me but it seems like Jim Gordan is the ultimate badass. Like what the fuck do Gotham need batman for? I guess when he gets older but shit dude was just dropping niggas left and right. Expect in the last scene with Galvon.

I think the most compelling vilLian is/was Victor (the bald headed white guy). It just seemed like whenever he came on the screen that he wasn't going to lose. I hope he comes back.
 
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