Get Out’s Daniel Kaluuya Defends His Blackness In Response to Samuel Jackson

You beat me to it. Daniel gave a straw man response. American companies just have a problem paying a black man a fair wage for an honest day's work. Period. This usually plays out as the light skinned vs dark skinned battle where whites treat the ones that look more a like them a smidge better. I've also seen it play out where they treat Caribbean (excluding Haitian) and native born Africans better than African Americans. They're always expecting retaliation for slavery in the back of their minds. They feel more comfortable with blacks who were exploited by someone else than the ones that were exploited by them. Thus they continue to oppress the ones that they've always oppressed and bring that fear of retaliation closer to manifestation.
Lol at you thinking that folks in the Caribbean don't know all cacs are the same.
 
That's bullshit for wy they are doing it but ok.



Apples and Oranges

Those were American movies .

If they were African or Jamaican movies you might have a point.

The conversation had nothing to do with the subject matter of the movie.
I give you Cool Runnings, but, how is Hotel Rwanda or The Last King of Scotland an American movie? Idi Amin played by Forrest Whitaker and Don Cheadle played Paul Rusesabagina in Hotel Rwanda.

The point being African American actors portraying Africans in movies. Both great actors and both are great movies.

Quotes from online article concerning this topic.

Actor Samuel L. Jackson recently criticized the casting of a black British actor to play an African American in the horror film “Get Out.”
But Jackson, who said he had not seen the movie, initially told Hot 97: “I tend to wonder what would that movie have been with an American brother who really understands that. … Daniel grew up in a country where they’ve been interracial dating for a hundred years. … What would a brother from America have made of that role?”

Added Jackson, “Some things are universal, but everything ain’t.”
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-blasts-Samuel-L-Jackson-s-Brit-comments.html








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lmao @ "Caribbeans"...bloody tourists.


Anyhow, the whys and wherefores all turn out to be moot for the simplest of reasons: as long as black people from whatever country aren't the ones telling their owns stories, American studios will continue to play one group off the next as they're doing now. They work to their benefit, not ours.

Smarten up.
 
I give you Cool Runnings, but, how is Hotel Rwanda or The Last King of Scotland an American movie? Idi Amin played by Forrest Whitaker and Don Cheadle played Paul Rusesabagina in Hotel Rwanda.

The point being African American actors portraying Africans in movies. Both great actors and both are great movies.

Quotes from online article concerning this topic.

Actor Samuel L. Jackson recently criticized the casting of a black British actor to play an African American in the horror film “Get Out.”
But Jackson, who said he had not seen the movie, initially told Hot 97: “I tend to wonder what would that movie have been with an American brother who really understands that. … Daniel grew up in a country where they’ve been interracial dating for a hundred years. … What would a brother from America have made of that role?”

Added Jackson, “Some things are universal, but everything ain’t.”
Crabs in a barrel shit, Brother.

All of us are Black, whether Rwandan, Ugandan, British-born or American-born.

To the question of there not being enough roles for Black actors in the U.S. and U.K., Black folks are not the enemy in this equation. White supremacy is.
 
Why don't sam start a production company, cast and tell the stories he deem necessary and entertaining.

Afterall he's been in the game for decades.


I ask myself this question all the time,you have actors,rappers, athletes that have a whole lot of money,but won't start a production company,but get mad when white folks don't for not telling our stories.....shit makes no sense at all..

I'm the first one to say,we shouldn't depend on actors,rappers and athletes to start a production company and etc,to tell our stories,but I don't want to hear them complaining about it either.
 
Sam Jackson has ALWAYS promoted black american ACTORS.. he had issues with hollywood giving roles to RAPPERS some 10-15 years ago when that was the trend... back in the days it was ATHLETES (Jim Brown, Fred Williamson OJ) and before that SINGERS (Diana Ross etc)..

In Sams POV its like hollywood will give a shot to someone who fits a trend rather than an actual TRAINED BLACK AMERICAN ACTOR.

that was his point.
Sam said I wonder how that movie would have turned out if an American brother was in that role. He was saying an American would put a different twist on the role, because interracial relationships in England aren't the same as IR relations in America. Which is complete and utter bullshit.
 
I ask myself this question all the time,you have actors,rappers, athletes that have a whole lot of money,but won't start a production company,but get mad when white folks don't for not telling our stories.....shit makes no sense at all..

I'm the first one to say,we shouldn't depend on actors,rappers and athletes to start a production company and etc,to tell our stories,but I don't want to hear them complaining about it either.
In 1992, in Nigeria, electronics salesman Kenneth Nnebue shot a straight-to-video movie in one month, on a budget of just $12,000. Living in Bondage sold more than a million copies, mostly by street vendors, and Nollywood – Nigeria's movie industry – was born.

By 2009, Nollywood had surpassed Hollywood as the world’s second largest movie industry by volume, right behind India’s Bollywood. And in 2014, the Nigerian government released data for the first time showing Nollywood is a $3.3 billion sector, with 1844 movies produced in 2013 alone. Earlier this year, Nollywood Producer Kunle Afolyan reached an exclusive Netflix distribution arrangement for his latest film, October 1. This adds to the 10 Nollywood related titles already on Netflix and the U.S. media company’s recent $12 million movie rights purchase of Nigerian novel Beasts of No Nation, to star Idris Elba.

And many observers believe that the global reach of African films could take off, led by video on demand (VOD) platforms and productions of Nigeria -- the continent’s largest economy and most populous nation.

“Nollywood’s popularity across Africa and the diaspora certainly demonstrates the capacity of the films to travel,” said Nigerian film producer and financier Yewande Sadiku.
 
That's bullshit for wy they are doing it but ok.



Apples and Oranges

Those were American movies .

If they were African or Jamaican movies you might have a point.

The conversation had nothing to do with the subject matter of the movie.

Hollywood has zero obligation to hire American only or tell only American stories.

& the last time I checked, Black foreigners were not a threat to Black Americans getting hired for any roles, either.

I like how easy it is for Sam to"throw shade" at the black foreigner playing a role that wasn't made specifically for a black American, but he's cool with the white dude screaming nigger nigger at him in literally every movie he's ever made.
 
In 1992, in Nigeria, electronics salesman Kenneth Nnebue shot a straight-to-video movie in one month, on a budget of just $12,000. Living in Bondage sold more than a million copies, mostly by street vendors, and Nollywood – Nigeria's movie industry – was born.

By 2009, Nollywood had surpassed Hollywood as the world’s second largest movie industry by volume, right behind India’s Bollywood. And in 2014, the Nigerian government released data for the first time showing Nollywood is a $3.3 billion sector, with 1844 movies produced in 2013 alone. Earlier this year, Nollywood Producer Kunle Afolyan reached an exclusive Netflix distribution arrangement for his latest film, October 1. This adds to the 10 Nollywood related titles already on Netflix and the U.S. media company’s recent $12 million movie rights purchase of Nigerian novel Beasts of No Nation, to star Idris Elba.

And many observers believe that the global reach of African films could take off, led by video on demand (VOD) platforms and productions of Nigeria -- the continent’s largest economy and most populous nation.

“Nollywood’s popularity across Africa and the diaspora certainly demonstrates the capacity of the films to travel,” said Nigerian film producer and financier Yewande Sadiku.

If,they could do it,we could do it easily and yet some of us rather complain about it.

As,much I can't stand Tyler Perry...I do give him props for starting a production company and hiring black people.
 
Crabs in a barrel shit, Brother.

All of us are Black, whether Rwandan, Ugandan, British-born or American-born.

To the question of there not being enough roles for Black actors in the U.S. and U.K., Black folks are not the enemy in this equation. White supremacy is.
I am not in opposition to black actors from anywhere in the world. My point was to contradict what Samuel Jackson said about the Get Out movie.
 
If,they could do it,we could do it easily and yet some of us rather complain about it.

As,much I can't stand Tyler Perry...I do give him props for starting a production company and hiring black people.
Well.....I always like to point out how African Americans usually look to Italians, Chinese, Jews etc for examples of how they increase economic value in their respective communities, but, fail to look at or recognize anything positive out of Africa.
 
I am not in opposition to black actors from anywhere in the world. My point was to contradict what Samuel Jackson said about the Get Out movie.
I get you.

By and large, I found Sam's comments in that interview to be incomplete.
 
Well.....I always like to point out how African Americans usually look to Italians, Chinese, Jews etc for examples of how they increase economic value in their respective communities, but, fail to look at or recognize anything positive out of Africa.
That's a damn good point.
 
Well.....I always like to point out how African Americans usually look to Italians, Chinese, Jews etc for examples of how they increase economic value in their respective communities, but, fail to look at or recognize anything positive out of Africa.
Just be clear. That's not true for every bkack person. Besides you're talking about people looking to people in America and not Asia or Europe.
 
I give you Cool Runnings, but, how is Hotel Rwanda or The Last King of Scotland an American movie? Idi Amin played by Forrest Whitaker and Don Cheadle played Paul Rusesabagina in Hotel Rwanda.

The point being African American actors portraying Africans in movies. Both great actors and both are great movies.

Quotes from online article concerning this topic.

Actor Samuel L. Jackson recently criticized the casting of a black British actor to play an African American in the horror film “Get Out.”
But Jackson, who said he had not seen the movie, initially told Hot 97: “I tend to wonder what would that movie have been with an American brother who really understands that. … Daniel grew up in a country where they’ve been interracial dating for a hundred years. … What would a brother from America have made of that role?”

Added Jackson, “Some things are universal, but everything ain’t.”

American movies because they were made by American studios directed by American directors written by American writers

They were American productions
 
Hollywood has zero obligation to hire American only or tell only American stories.

& the last time I checked, Black foreigners were not a threat to Black Americans getting hired for any roles, either.

I like how easy it is for Sam to"throw shade" at the black foreigner playing a role that wasn't made specifically for a black American, but he's cool with the white dude screaming nigger nigger at him in literally every movie he's ever made.

Who said anything about American stories?

And did he say they were obligated?

What he said is they hire foreigners and pay them less and avoid paying black anericans.

No different that the conversation of companies not hiring blacks in tech and instead hire foreigners and pay them less.

And that also doesn't answer the question,do foreign film companies hire American actors instead of actors from their countries.

Point is that there are a handful of black actors that get jobs while there are many that dont...

In both cases companies are choosing to import while American blacks are under represented
 
Who said anything about American stories?

And did he say they were obligated?

What he said is they hire foreigners and pay them less and avoid paying black anericans.

No different that the conversation of companies not hiring blacks in tech and instead hire foreigners and pay them less.

And that also doesn't answer the question,do foreign film companies hire American actors instead of actors from their countries.

Point is that there are a handful of black actors that get jobs while there are many that dont...

In both cases companies are choosing to import while American blacks are under represented
Where's proof that foreigners get paid less than Americans? Everybody in Hollywood gets scale pay at a minimum. Anything more is subject to negotiation. Foreigners don't get mexican pay. If they got an unknown American for this role, where is the evidence he would get paid more than the British dude?
 
But Jackson, who said he had not seen the movie, initially told Hot 97: “I tend to wonder what would that movie have been with an American brother who really understands that. … Daniel grew up in a country where they’ve been interracial dating for a hundred years. … What would a brother from America have made of that role?

This is my biggest problem with what he said. How you gonna critize his role in the movie when you haven't seen it? And where does he get this idea that British black men can't relate because they've been interracial dating for the past hundred years... what?
 
If you pay attention to this thread all the non-american blacks have an issue with what Sam Jackson said. But we black Americans totally get it. We shed our blood for these roles, we protested for these roles, we sufferred. A British black shouldn't be receiving it. Yes he may have experienced racism but american racism is on a totally different level. I 100% support sam jackson on this issue.
 
Man I've got to see this movie Get Out, i've been purposely avoiding anything dealing with it
too long, i'm going to see it Friday afternoon
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