Gas prices are getting rediculous y'all

QueEx

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<font size="5"><center>Gasoline prices soar above $3 in Katrina's wake</font size></center>

04:17 PM CDT on Wednesday, August 31, 2005
Associated Press


Gasoline prices surged above $3 a gallon in many parts of the country Wednesday and shortages cropped up in some areas as supply disruptions from Hurricane Katrina widened.

Gas prices jumped by more than 50 cents a gallon overnight in Ohio, 40 cents in Georgia and 30 cents in Maine. The increases followed price spikes on wholesale and futures markets after the hurricane knocked off-line refineries and pipeline links along the Gulf Coast that provide about a third of the country’s gasoline supplies.

Concerns are now mounting over limited supplies of gasoline, including the possible return of long lines and gas rationing reminiscent of the 1970s gas crisis.

“There is a possibility that we will see some form of rationing with the conditions being as bad or worse than many people thought,” said Fred Allvine, an oil industry expert with the Georgia Institute of Technology.

This week’s increase come on top of a 40 percent price rise in the last year that pushed up the average retail price of unleaded regular to $2.61 a gallon nationwide last week, Energy Department figures show.

Analysts said the squeeze should ease once electricity is restored to Gulf Coast pipelines and refineries. But it will be days before a full assessment of wind and flood damage can be done, and at least that long before pipelines and refineries return to service.

The market did receive some help Wednesday when the federal government said it would loan oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to refiners facing shortfalls. And the Environmental Protection Agency said it would temporarily allow gasoline retailers nationwide to sell fuel that does not meet stringent summer air-quality standards.

“The EPA waiver was a big move,” said John Kilduff, an analyst at Fimat USA in New York.

Owner Mike Brown looked outside the office of his Chevron gas station in the Atlanta suburb of Chamblee, Ga., on Wednesday and saw something he hadn’t seen in years—a customer topping off the tanks of not one, but three cars, and then filling up a handful of gas cans. “So the hoarding begins. I topped off my truck today,” said Brown.

In Arizona, Circle K Stores Inc., one of the Phoenix area’s largest gas-station operators, reported outages at 10 to 15 percent of its 256 service stations in Maricopa County, although state officials said the gasoline supply problems were not widespread.

Several gas stations in the Milwaukee area ran out of gas for several hours at the time, having to post “Out of Gas” signs at their pumps. The outages were blamed more on logistical problems on the supply end than any increase in demand.

“Everybody is really trying hard. But it has been very, very difficult to get enough gasoline,” said Jim Fiene, senior vice president of the Open Pantry convenience store-gasoline station chain in southeast Wisconsin.

The problems soon could extend far beyond motorists’ wallets. Energy experts say they are concerned about how hurricane damage to Gulf Coast natural gas and heating oil facilities will affect heating bills this winter. Rising jet fuel costs because of the hurricane also have put additional pressure on cash-strapped airlines.

“It’s much farther-reaching than me just handing over green dollars at a gas pump,” said Steve West, 52, an account manager at Worldspan in Atlanta. “I was around back in the 1970s when there was no gas, so I’ve been through that before and I know that was not pleasant.”

In scenic Asheville, N.C., local officials asked residents to conserve gas and government workers were ordered to limit nonessential travel. In Georgia, where long lines were reported across the state, Gov. Sonny Perdue urged residents to curb discretionary driving and instead “spend the time with your children, your parents and your families at home.” A suburban Atlanta vanpooling program also reported a 50 percent jump in participants since Hurricane Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast on Monday.

“I never rode the bus before but I’m definitely considering it now,” said Tammy Nelson, 29, of Decatur, Ga., who was topping off her gas tank at an Atlanta gas station in response to the rapidly rising gas prices.

The latest nonpartisan Field Poll found that California residents are changing their behavior as a result of high gas prices. Forty percent—and 54 percent of those making less than $40,000 -- said they have cut back spending in other areas. About two-thirds of residents say they shop around for filling stations offering cheaper gas, and 59 percent said they are driving less.

Matt McKenzie, spokesman for from AAA-Northern New England, predicted gas prices would hit $3.70 to $3.80 by month’s end in that region of the country, causing frugal motorists to begin carpooling, cutting back errands and maybe even scaling back their fall leaf-viewing trips.

“I think the days of cheap gas are done. They’ve gone bye bye,” said Mark Dugas as he was filling his Ford Mustang at a gas station in Rhode Island.

Not everyone is convinced gasoline lines are in consumers’ future. “Supplies are going to be bottlenecked and people are going to take advantage of that at various levels, they will jack prices up a little bit,” said Anthony Sabino, a professor at St. John’s University in New York. “But there are no gas shortages.

There is plenty of gasoline in the pipeline.”

http://www.khou.com/business/stories/khou050831_mh_gasprices.1188e08d.html
 
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If I could just get a damn gallon or two, at whatever price, I would be Okay.
I could keep my generator going. Don't need any for my car, hell, no place
to go. And, the damn sun is tormenting mofo's.
 
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Hey QUE, where you at dog?

I thought you were in florida??!?!?!

Were you in an area they predicted or were you caught of guard like missississisiisispi(could never spell hahah).

Good luck to your fam, now when you here me bitch about 18 inches of snow you could always be like remember emily in 05', STFU!!!!!!! hahahah
 
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Man gas prices are crazy down here in ATL, some greedy gas stations charging 5.57 a gallon for regular.
 
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<font size="5"><center>OPEC President says oil prices will fall</font size></center>

Associated Press
Kuwait City, September 5, 2005

OPEC's production surpasses demand, and this will eventually bring down prices, the group's President has said Sheik Ahmed Fahd Al Sabah, who is also Kuwait's Energy Minister, said the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries' output of 30.4 million barrels a day was more than the prevailing demand and this was helping to increase stocks of oil, which should eventually calm prices.

In comments reported by the official Kuwait News Agency on Sunday, Sheik Ahmed blamed the latest boost in oil prices on Hurricane Katrina, which has disrupted US refineries along the Gulf of Mexico.

Kuwait pledged on Sunday US$500 million in oil and humanitarian supplies to help the victims of the hurricane and flooding. Sheik Ahmed insisted there was a glut of crude oil of more than 1 million barrels a day in the market, adding that the rising prices were due to geopolitical and climatic changes, and shortages of refining capacity.

Last week, Sheik Ahmed said he will propose that OPEC increase its real production by 500,000 barrels a day at the group's meeting in Vienna on September 19.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1482559,00020008.htm
 
Now I know this may be a repost, and many consider it a chain letter, but we have to do something. This is something that we may actually be able control.
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Yo...ya'll need to read this because these gas prices are getting out of hand.

I know that the one day boycott didn't work, and with both Exxon and Mobil reporting recording breaking revenue at our expense, this idea sounds good. I'm going to start today !

GAS WAR - an idea that WILL work

This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one
of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. It ' s worth your
consideration.

Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to hit close to $4.00 a gallon
by next summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come
down?
We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth
offered this good idea.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day"
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies
just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt"
ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it
was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
really work. Please read on and join with us! By now you're probably thinking
gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently
$2.79 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil companies and
the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of
gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach
them that BUYERS control the marketplace..... not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more
each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see
the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not
purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
How?
Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we
CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price
war.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two
biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling
any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce
their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out at
this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach
millions of people.

I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us sends it to at least
ten more (30 x 10 =3D 300) ... and those 300 send it to at lea st ten more
(300 x 10 =3D 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth
group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers. If those
three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30
million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
guessed it..... THREE >>>>HUNDRED MILLION >>>>PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. (If you
don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is
send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a
mathematician. But I am, so trust me on this one.)

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten
more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could
conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!

I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you?

Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please
pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL
THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN.
THIS CAN REALLY WORK.


Thank You,

Johnna Goldberg/Senior Buyer
Four Seasons Division of Standard Motor
E-mail address: johnna.goldberg@4s.com
Bus: 972-316-8126
Fax: 972-316-8212
 
it wont work. even if you dont go to the exxon or mobile station, you gotta remember that they also supply the little guys that don't sport their name. That is why they are major suppliers
 
Check this out mis hermanos,this is what we should do.Instead of that one day bullshit of don't buy gas.Fuck it it won't work.This is what I propose we do,Since Exxon-Monbil is the biggest winner in all of the gas shit.I say we do this.Don't buy gas from Exxon -Mobil for the rest of the year.But we have to stick to our guns,don't go to them ever.If we do what Mother Parks did back in the day(Boycott),we will break them down.Mother Parks and her backers broke down BUS COMPANY IN A SINGLE CITY.We have a bigger accsess than she could have ever dreamed of,we can tell the whole country thru the internet.If everbody e-mails this thing I am asking,we can break them down.If we boycott Exxon -Mobil and do not by their gas for the rest of the yaer.They will have to lower their prices,and the rest of the oil compaines will have too follow suit.If Mother Parks could do it back in a time without the internet,what do you think we could do now........ :yes:
 
peterpiper1978 said:
it wont work. even if you dont go to the exxon or mobile station, you gotta remember that they also supply the little guys that don't sport their name. That is why they are major suppliers


It will work,find out who they supply and boycott them..............
 
OPEC counters implicit G7 criticism of its investment policies

OPEC counters implicit G7 criticism of its investment policies
1 hour, 41 minutes ago

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries bluntly challenged oil consuming nations to build more refineries, insisting that producers are not solely to blame for oil market volatility.

OPEC representative Adnan Shihab-Eldin, in a statement to IMF policymakers gathered here at a time of soaring crude prices, said OPEC was committed to oil market stability.

"OPEC member countries have been steadily increasing crude production capacity in order to meet expected growth in demand, not only for the current year but for the many years to come," he told the International Monetary Fund's governing committee.

He was speaking a day after the Group of Seven industrialized powers warned that rising oil rates threatened the global economy and urged producing countries to boost investment in their production infrastructure.

"Investment is crucial and oil producing countries should provide open and secure investment environments to enable market participants to meet pressing needs," ministers from Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States said in a statement.

Speaking to British reporters late Friday British Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown said that when OPEC holds a ministerial meeting June 1 "it must look at its production quotas and it must look at both how we can increase output and refining capacity."

Brown also called for "greater transparency" in the oil market.

"It is still not good enough that we do not know the reserves that are available and the demand requirements for the future."

But on Saturday Shihab-Eldin reminded his audience here that "the need for appropriate investment is not confined to the upstream (producing) sector but also extends along the entire supply chain, particularly in the downstream (consuming) sector."

He maintained that oil supply would remain tight in consuming countries "especially if the necessary investment in the refining sector is not undertaken in a timely manner."

He said OPEC members had begun "ambitious programs of downstream (refining) investment ... in the hope that consumer countries and the oil industry in general will rise to the challenge and carry their share of investments."

Oil prices in New York shot up past the 75-dollar-a-barrel level for the first time on Friday largely in response to fears that a US attack on OPEC producer Iran could disrupt global oil supplies.

The United States and other western powers have turned up the pressure on Iran on grounds that its nuclear program could have military objectives, accusations Tehran has strenuously denied.

Shihab-Eldin insisted that a shortage of oil was not the problem.

"The market continues to be well-supplied, with OPEC member countries' production having averaged 29.6 million barrels a day in March," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2006042...UyoOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNlYwN5bnN0b3J5
 
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Want to save on gas? Get a Manual Transmission vehicle..the lower the shift speed, the better the fuel economy :) glad all my vehicles are stick...
 
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There will never be a shortage of oil of gas (so called fossil fuels according to a report by nasa and other scientists). They claim that the whole theory that oil supplies are limited is propaganda toenable high prices. according to nasa and these scientists, it cant be a fossil fuel because it is found on other planets like neptune where they feel life is totally impossible. i been reading into it and it makes sense because you have to have life to have fossils right? they say that oil will always be regenerated by the earth due to mechanisms that occur deep into the surface. anyway heres a link to one report by nasa.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47675
 
There will never be a shortage of oil of gas (so called fossil fuels according to a report by nasa and other scientists). They claim that the whole theory that oil supplies are limited is propaganda toenable high prices. according to nasa and these scientists, it cant be a fossil fuel because it is found on other planets like neptune where they feel life is totally impossible. i been reading into it and it makes sense because you have to have life to have fossils right? they say that oil will always be regenerated by the earth due to mechanisms that occur deep into the surface. anyway heres a link to one report by nasa.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47675
 
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<font size="5"><center>Opec 'cannot control rising crude prices'</font size>
<font size="4">current increase in crude prices
is the result of geopolitical issues
there is no shortage of supply </font size></center>

Gulf News
By Barbara Bibbo', Correspondent


Doha: The oil producing countries cannot control the current increase in crude prices because it is the result of geopolitical issues, said Qatar's energy minister here yesterday.

Abdullah Bin Hamad Al Attiyah, Qatar's Second Deputy Premier and Minister of Oil and Industry, said Opec was not responsible for skyrocketing prices since they reflect international concern about Iran's nuclear programme and other geopolitical problems.

Chief executives of the world's top oil firms met ministers from the biggest producers and consumers yesterday in Doha.

"Opec cannot do anything to reduce oil prices. There are geopolitical issues that must be solved to see a reduction in prices," he told reporters. "Oil markets are speculating about the Iran crisis and other major geopolitical problems."

Asked whether Opec was discussing an increase in output, Al Attiyha said an increase in production and supply would not bring prices down. "There are no plans to increase production and I do not believe that any increases in production and supply would help curb prices.

"The issue is not production, because there is no shortage of supply and we are meeting world demand. It is only political issues that are creating unjustified concerns in the energy market."

Al Attiyha said at least $15 of the recent oil price increase is a "geopolitical premium". He said, "I believe at least $15 is a premium for current geopolitical crises."


http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Oil_and_Gas/10035097.html
 
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This makes me wonder whether some of the fire Iran has been
breathing lately about its determination to enrich uranium which
has the inherent threat/possibility of developing nuclear bombs is,
in part, just smoke -- to drive up the price of oil while raking in a
ton of profit.

The smoke doesn't mean that Iran doesn't want to develop nuclear
bombs -- but it makes sense to me, if its enrichment programs are
only for peaceful/energy purposes, why it appears its been difficult
for Iran to reach agreement with the Russians to enrich uranium for
Iran. In other words, Iran could strike a deall with Russia any day
if it wanted to -- but chooses not to because it is purposefully
using rhetoric to drive up oil profits -=- and, it gets to fukk us in
the pocket, at the same time. A win-win for Iran.

... just a theory

QueEx</font size>
 
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African Herbsman said:
A win-win for the petroleum industry also. Let's not forget.
Good point -- the petro industry as well. I note, however, that you said "also" which I take to mean that you tend to agree that "Iran" may also be stirring the pot. I make that point because many seem to want to give Iran and others, outside of the U.S., an "Easy Button" whenever foreign relations are implicated.

But you are right about the oil industry ... along with our poor energy policy, government gifts to the captive industry, Chinese demand, Nigerian instability, Hugonomics, market speculators ....; there's a list of players thats affecting the price at the pump. I think we are in for some <u>drastic</u> changes in our energy consumption lifestyles and the sooner - the better.

We need some real leadership here ...

QueEx
 
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[frame]http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/24/gas.investigation/index.html[/frame]
 
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QueEx, great theory, some on the board might say you have your conspiratorial hat on.

But say it is true, how close to war do we get? The rhetoric from both sides are getting more and more aggressive. Do they(the administration) use that to preemptively dismantle their so called peaceful nuclear program?

We will see $4 gas before the summer is out. Everytime Congress starts to investigate the prices go back down. Now that's an amazing coincidence.

Bushy said this morning, we are getting on the global level. If that is the case, we have a couple of more dollars to go before things get level out.
 
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<font size="5"><center>Who Wins and Loses When Gas Prices Skyrocket?</font size>
<font size="4">The G.O.P. faces voter wrath, consumers suffer,
and Big Oil hits a gusher. A guide to the pain and gain</font size></center>

TIME Magazine
By BILL SAPORITO
Posted April 30, 2006

It's not every day that Karl Rove gets a lesson in politics. But the President's ace strategist was brought up sharply at a recent White House meeting with a group of Republican congressional-staff chiefs when he suggested that the best approach to soaring gasoline prices was this: wait. There's no immediate fix available, so let the market work its magic, Rove said. The stratospheric pricing will reduce demand soon enough, and $3-per-gal. gas will be a memory by summer. It's basic economics.

And, if you're a Republican politician facing a re-election challenge in November, it's basic insanity. Rove should be the last person in America to have to be told that textbook economics isn't taking the campaign trip this summer with political reality. Not in a country where the right to drive 70 m.p.h. in a 55-m.p.h. zone while getting 15 m.p.g. is part of the national vehicular patrimony. The voters are getting incensed every time they drop $75 to fill their SUVs and pickups while oil companies tote up record earnings. "What upsets me more than anything is the Democrats and Republicans keep pointing fingers," says insurance salesman Bob Morris, 59, of Palestine, Texas, whose weekly gas bill for his Camry has risen to $75. "Now I'm at the point, whoever's in office, I'm ready to vote 'em out."

That's what horrifies the staff chiefs. Until now, Republicans consoled themselves in this worsening political environment with the belief that congressional elections are local popularity contests. Now that the monthly price of driving to work rivals the mortgage payment, gasoline, more than any other issue, could turn this election into a national referendum. With the G.O.P.'s popularity gauge already down a couple of quarts, Rove was told that if the White House didn't do something, anything, about energy costs, Congress could put the President in the position of using his first veto to kill a windfall-profits tax on oil-company earnings. Says a G.O.P. strategist: "People just want the oil companies whacked."

So the Republicans turned on Big Oil, an industry they normally treat like a good neighbor--or an ATM. In a particularly delicious bit of populist sophistry, the party led by two oil guys that is pro-business, antitax and antigovernment meddling was talking loudly about greedy petro-executives, IRS audits of oil-company tax returns and withdrawing $2 billion in industry-specific tax breaks over 10 years. That's about a month's worth of profits for ExxonMobil, which announced quarterly earnings of $8.4 billion. "Listen, we've got people like this that are working for a living, who are paying higher prices for their gasoline--it's like a tax," said President George Bush, standing next to local resident Michael Wade at Fayard's service station in Biloxi, Miss., where a gallon of regular sold for $2.96. "The first thing is to make sure that nobody is getting cheated."

The President visited the service station to discuss a number of largely ineffectual remedies for pulling down prices, some of which Rove had previously discussed in the staff chiefs' meeting. Bush suspended additional deliveries to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to divert that crude to the market. He called for more tax incentives for hybrid cars, fewer environmental hurdles for refinery builders, drilling wells in the Arctic and congressional authority to raise mileage requirements on cars. Senate majority leader Bill Frist, who earlier in the week had advised voters to drive slower and get a tune-up, was fronting a Republican proposal to send a $100 rebate to most taxpayers--which they could return to the oil companies next time they filled up.

Handed the issue that could win back the House, congressional Democrats steered en masse to service stations, like NASCAR drivers pitting for gas. Following a carefully strategized plan of photo ops organized by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, they staged press conferences in filling stations around the U.S. to denounce the Republicans and promote their equally ineffectual solutions. Said John Cranley, who posed near a price sign at a service station in Cincinnati, Ohio: "These gas prices represent the failure of my opponent, Steve Chabot, and George Bush to fight for the middle class. The Republicans and Steve Chabot are giving [Big Oil] $14 billion in your money." The Democratic handout proposal was even more generous. The Dems want to rescind the gasoline tax for a while--which would stimulate demand.

The fallout from gasoline prices was doubly painful for the G.O.P. because it obliterated the good news that the economy is absolutely cranking. Federal Reserve chief Ben Bernanke estimated that the economy grew nearly 5% in the first quarter, while unemployment has fallen to 4.7%, the lowest since 2001. But the price of gas isn't a mere macroeconomic figure. It's a pocketbook item that consumers feel every week. The economy required about 27% less energy to produce a dollar of GDP last year than it did in 1986, according to the Department of Energy. But gas prices are hurting consumers because real wage growth has declined over the past four years. The American Automobile Association estimated that the average driver's fuel costs will increase to 9.2¢ a mile, from 8.2¢. Not academic, since the average commuter covers more than 8,000 miles a year just getting to work and back.

If high energy prices are hurting workers, they are devastating a number of industries, most notably the airlines. Already buffeted by bankruptcies and labor disputes, the major carriers had made steady progress in shedding excess capacity and lowering labor costs. As a result, jets are fuller. But the till is still empty. Every dollar increase in the price of a barrel of oil translates into a $365 million immediate increase in fuel costs for the 11 major airlines. Even hyperefficient JetBlue has gone into the red. "High oil prices and continued losses will probably be a slow grind to liquidation for some airlines," says Vaughn Cordle, the founder of the analytical firm AirlineForecasts. While some airlines thought they might break even this year, now the biggest carriers may lose as much as $3.5 billion in 2006, Cordle predicts. If the current jet-fuel prices hold, something else will have to give. Result? Look for more mergers and higher fares.

The spike in gas prices is the last thing Detroit needs now, especially General Motors, which had been banking on the launch of redesigned, full-size SUVs like the Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon and Cadillac Escalade to help boost sales this year. A few years ago, automakers could count on a core group of 1.5 million households to buy full-size SUVs, according to Art Spinella, president of CNW Marketing Research. Even before this year, higher gas prices had eroded that market. Only about 700,000 U.S. households are now in the market for full-size models. That's why automakers are switching to crossover vehicles like GM's Pontiac Torrent and Ford's Ecosport.

Oil-dependent industries that had been absorbing higher costs are also beginning to suffer. Consider the chemical industry, which needs petroleum as a feedstock, or raw material, for such products as polyvinyl chloride (for plastic pipe) and polyethylene terephthalate (for soda bottles). "You see the biggest impact across the board in plastics," says Morningstar analyst Sumit Desai. Back in 2003, hydrocarbon feedstocks and energy accounted for 36% of Dow Chemical's total costs. Last year they ate up 47% of total costs, yet the company still managed an earnings increase. But Dow reported this week that first-quarter net income fell 10% from a year ago, to $1.21 billion, despite a 3% growth in revenue, which hit $12 billion. Dow's net income dropped mostly because the cost of energy and oil-derived raw materials increased more than $800 million in the quarter. One way chemical companies are dealing with rising energy costs is to move production overseas, particularly to the Middle East, where they pay less for energy. Dow is one of the companies doing that, putting U.S. plants in jeopardy.

Economists are worried that companies are reaching the limit of being able to transfer energy-price increases to their customers in the form of surcharges. FedEx just raised its fuel surcharge on air deliveries from 12% to 13.5%. Even local pizza parlors, which have been adding a dollar or two to the bill, will reach the push-back point if the upward trend continues. "The pain at the pump this summer is going to be on truckers, taxi drivers, limo drivers, airlines, shipping companies. The question is, Do they pass it on?" says Joe Stanislaw, an independent energy adviser for clients of Deloitte & Touche.

Not everyone is unhappy with high oil prices. Besides oil companies, these are boom times for oil-field-service firms like Schlumberger, whose oil-field revenue is up 34% over last year's first quarter, and high-tech equipment makers like Baker Hughes (up 89%). Rig activity is so strong and demand for energy services so unprecedented, according to Dave Lesar, CEO of Halliburton Co., the Vice President's former outfit, that the oil-field-service conglomerate started raising prices this month. So have others. Oil-drilling ships are renting for $500,000 a day, double the charge of 18 months ago. "The price of oil is a transfer of wealth from the consumers to the producers," says Brian Gambill, senior analyst of Manning & Napier Advisors, an investment firm. "And the producers transfer their wealth to the oil-service companies because they don't have many of the technological capabilities that the service companies have."

That's good news too for oil workers, petroleum engineers and geologists, as even fields once thought tapped out are getting attention. Sites like oilfieldworkers. com are touting jobs for $100 a day, with no experience needed. Is gushing oil too icky for you? Hate living in camps outdoors? Oil companies are looking for cooks and medics too, say the ads. At oilfield jobs ok.com the come-on is for 700 jobs in Oklahoma, paying $20,000 to $60,000, with benefits, flex hours and job training. "Great opportunities for hardworking guys like you!" says the ad.

Oil has also been a great opportunity for hardworking guys who run countries that are on less than chummy terms with the U.S. Hugo Chávez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Presidents of Venezuela and Iran, respectively, have benefited from the rhetoric of U.S. foreign policy. The Administration's confrontational response to Iran's nuclear policy and Venezuela's anticapitalism is actually making those countries richer and their rulers more popular by driving up the price of oil, a commodity they possess much of. In Venezuela the self-proclaimed Bolivarian revolutionary Chávez has taken state control of some oil fields and threatened ExxonMobil and other oil companies with raising royalty payments and lowering their partnership interests.

When oil traders in New York City's Mercantile Exchange hear Iran threaten to stop pumping in a market that is already tight, they immediately bid up the price of contracts for future oil delivery. That cycle of fear isn't the only thing sending prices higher. Hedge funds, sniffing profits, are pouring money into oil and other commodities. The chase has added $10 to $15 to the price of a barrel of oil, say economists. Nor do the fundamentals of global oil offer much hope for lower prices over the long run. The growth in demand is exceeding the growth of supply by 400,000 bbl. a day, fed by the rapidly expanding Chinese and Indian economies.

Americans, however, are the original gas hogs. The U.S. uses more oil per day than any other country--4.5% of the world's population guzzling 25% of the planet's petroleum output. But voters viscerally blame their petrodependency on the man and the party in charge. In a recent CNN/ Gallup poll, 75% of those surveyed said a President could control oil prices; 71% said this President wasn't doing enough to bring them down.

Conversely, many analysts argue that the best way to create new energy sources and encourage conservation is to raise gasoline prices, not lower them. Fadel Gheit, senior energy analyst with Oppenheimer & Co., defends Exxon Mobil while blasting politicians and consumers. "We're a bunch of crybabies. They pay the equivalent of $6 a gallon for gas in Germany," he says. But with elections looming and consumers fuming, the Republicans can't ignore what every TV news show is headlining the Pain at the Pump. The cost of gas may be high now, but for the Republicans by November, it could be a lot higher.

With reporting by Unmesh Kher, Daren Fonda, SALLY B. DONNELLY, Cathy Booth Thomas/ Dallas, Reported by Mike Allen, Karen Tumulty/ Washington, Jens Erik Gould/ Caracas, Marc Hequet/ St. Paul Minn., Dody Tsiantar/ New York

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1189265-1,00.html
 
$2.73 a Gallon? Not at First Fuel Banks

$2.73 a Gallon? Not at First Fuel Banks
By GREGG AAMOT, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 22 minutes ago

Most motorists are feeling the pain as gasoline creeps toward, or over, $3 a gallon — but not Art Altrichter.

"This feels pretty good!" Altrichter said as he filled the tank of his Ford F-150 pickup for $2.03 a gallon on Thursday, when the average here was $2.73. "Right now, to be a few pennies over $2, when it's as high as it is? That's a real deal."

A year ago, the retired milk truck driver bought 500 gallons of gas at First Fuel Banks, locking it in at the then-current price of $2.03 a gallon. He taps that reserve whenever gas rises above that mark. If the retail price drops below $2.03, he can leave his reserve alone and buy elsewhere.

First Fuel Banks bills itself as the only retailer in the country where customers can buy gasoline for the future and hedge against rising prices. It advertises no service charge and no storage charge, just a $1 lifetime membership fee.

Altrichter said one of his neighbors got in at First Fuel Banks several years ago and is now is withdrawing from a reserve that cost him 99 cents a gallon. "How about that!" he said.

Both people and businesses buy gas from the company, which has six stations in and around this central Minnesota city. The city of St. Cloud fills its fleet of cars at the company's stations.

The program is open to anyone who drives off the street. Customers buy whatever amount they want at the current price — the most ever purchased in advance was $400,000 worth — then swipe a card and key in a PIN number when they draw from their reserve.

Chief executive Jim Feneis, who runs the company with his brother, Dan Feneis, said 300 of its members are still filling up with gas that cost them less than a buck a gallon as recently as 2002. Many more are locked in under $2.

"We're offering a pretty attractive concept to the savvy buyer," Feneis said.

Each station has a 50,000-gallon tank for each grade of gasoline — regular, mid-grade and premium — compared with 6,000 to 8,000 gallons for each product at a typical convenience store, Feneis said.

That's enough capacity to handle short-and medium-term demand, he said. For people holding onto reserves for a year or longer, the company hedges its obligations by buying gasoline futures contracts on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

First Fuel Banks started with a single station in 1982 and now has about 8,000 members, Feneis said. It makes its money just by selling gasoline, diesel and some specialty fuels since its stations aren't convenience stores. He said it has less than 5 percent of the St. Cloud area market. But he said it's just one part of a larger business, East Side Oil Co., that has other divisions such as oil recycling.

"Our 43-year-old family fuel business is happy, healthy and completely debt-free," Feneis said. "And I think we're definitely the minority."

A few other stations in the country have tried a similar approach, but none have succeeded, he said.

Lance Klatt, executive director of the Minnesota Service Station and Convenience Store Association, can understand why: price volatility and risk.

"There's no margins anyway" in the gasoline business, said Klatt.

It was a new idea to Ron Planting, an economist with the American Petroleum Institute in Washington. "But in the Northeast and maybe elsewhere there are heating oil dealers that do something similar with a customer who wants to lock in a price for the current heating season," he said.

Sheila Hallerman learned about First Fuel Banks when she received a gift card a year ago, and a few months ago she bought 100 gallons at $2.40.

"It still hurts," she said of shelling out more than $2 for a gallon. "But not as much as it could."
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On the Net:
First Fuel Banks: http://www.firstfuelbank.com/

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CNN Money
May 31, 2006: 10:46 AM EDT


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Crude futures fell nearly $2 Wednesday morning after officials said the U.S. will engage in multilateral talks with Iran if Tehran suspends its nuclear enrichment.

"The State Department saying it wanted to join the multiparty talks on Iran helped push crude lower," said John Kilduff, senior vice president at Fimat USA.

Also, expectations that OPEC will keep pumping oil near full capacity and for U.S. inventory data due out Thursday to show another build in gasoline stocks undermined prices.

The expiration at the end of the session of the front-month June contracts for gasoline and heating oil fueled the selling.

Light, sweet crude for July delivery fell $1.83 at $70.20 a barrel after dropping to an early low of $70.10 on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

In London, July Brent crude fell $1.06 to $69.99.

NYMEX June gasoline slumped 5.99 cents to $2.09 per gallon, after settling at $2.3347 Tuesday.

June heating oil slid 2.69 cents to $1.977 a gallon.

"Crude and products futures have fallen in light overnight trade as traders anticipate bearish U.S. inventory stats and a status quo result from the OPEC meeting," said Addison Armstrong, manager of exchange traded markets at TFS Energy.

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries will meet Thursday in Caracas to chart output policy, and ministers have made clear they expect to leave supply quotas unchanged.

But they also admit the cartel has less power in a market dominated by a global shortfall in refining capacity and geopolitical worries.

"OPEC is becoming an audience," said Qatari Oil Minister Abdullah al-Attiyah.

Dealers will be watching U.S. petroleum storage data on Thursday, with gasoline stockpiles expected to have risen by 1.4 million barrels last week, a fifth consecutive build, a preliminary Reuters poll of analysts showed.

The Energy Information Administration data will be released a day later than usual due to Monday's Memorial Day holiday.

Crude stocks were forecast down 200,000 barrels, with distillates up 1.5 million barrels. Refinery runs were projected to rise 0.8 percentage point to 90.5 percent of capacity.

Also on Thursday, the five U.N. Security Council permanent members and Germany will meet in Vienna to discuss a package of incentives for Iran to halt its restarted nuclear program along with penalties if it keeps defying international pressure.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/31/markets/oil.reut/
 
Oil prices: You ain't seen nuthin' yet

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Salon
By Andrew Leonard
June 22, 2007

A couple of data points about oil.

The Wall Street Journal reports today that world oil demand is growing twice as fast as last year.

The International Energy Agency, which monitors oil markets on behalf of industrialized nations, is forecasting average global oil demand of 86.1 million barrels a day this year, up 2 percent from last year. That is twice as fast as the 0.9% growth recorded in 2006, compared with 2005.

Demand is expected to accelerate further in the fourth quarter to 88 million barrels a day, an unprecedented quarterly volume and up 2.6 million barrels a day from the year-earlier period. In the second quarter, global oil demand already has risen at a 1.7% rate, more than double the 0.8% a year ago, according to forecasts and data compiled by the IEA.


Where's the demand coming from? All over, but especially China.

The China Daily reports:

In the first five months this year, China's net oil imports roared to 65.83 million tons, an increase of 11.5 percent from the same period last year. At the same time, China produced 77.51 million tons of oil, a 1.7 percent rise year-on-year.

Customs statistics show that from January to May, China imported 67.43 million tons of crude oil, up 9.6 percent year-on-year. Meanwhile, it exported 1.6 million tons, down 36.6 percent.

And people think the price of gasoline is high now.


http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/?last_story=/tech/htww/2007/06/22/oil_prices/
 
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Oil prices soaring; But why?

Oil prices soar. But why?​

By Kevin G. Hall | McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007

WASHINGTON — When investment bank Goldman Sachs & Co. said in March 2005 that oil prices could surpass $100 a barrel, it was accused of fear-mongering. Oil prices, after all, were around $57 a barrel.

This week, competitor Barclays Capital led a research report with this statement: "The issue seems no longer to be whether oil will reach $100 a barrel, but when." That statement barely raised an eyebrow.

Prices for contracts of future delivery of oil, called futures, closed up $2.07 on Thursday to $89.47 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. In after-hours electronic trading, prices hit $90.02. Prices are up almost $39 from a Jan. 18 low of $50.48 a barrel.

Yet, shockingly, high oil prices aren't translating into similar leaps in gasoline prices. The AAA motor club said the national average is $2.79 gallon, about the same as a month ago, but 52 cents higher than the January average.

That's good news for drivers, but it raises a troubling question about what's really behind today's high oil prices: How much is financial speculation, rather than economic fundamentals, driving today's energy markets?

"It's smoke and mirrors. It has nothing to do with consumers. The futures market in the near term is exceptionally bullish," said Fadel Gheit, an oil analyst for Oppenheimer & Co, a Wall Street advisory firm.

A 30-year veteran of oil markets, Gheit believes financial speculation is driving prices to unrealistic highs. Evidence of that, he says, is that oil prices are rising even as refiners can't pass along these rising costs to consumers because U.S. demand for gasoline is falling. The drop is due to both the end of summer vacations and a sluggish U.S. economy.

"Gasoline prices will likely pick up a little bit because oil prices have surged. But they are not likely to catch up with oil prices," said Gheit. "Demand for gasoline is coming down on a seasonal basis."

Oil industry critics say that refiner manipulation is to blame.

"These companies control the maintenance, the output, the expansions. There is a lot of limitation (in generating supplies) that is deliberate in refineries, and they were able to drive up profits to levels that were close to a dollar a gallon for finished gasoline" earlier this year, said Judy Dugan, research director for the Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights in Los Angeles, a consumer group that clashes frequently with Big Oil.

"Americans will pay $3 a gallon for gasoline, but if they were getting the margins they were getting this spring, gas would be over $4 a gallon, and you'd see people bring torches to the Capitol!"

Refiners angrily dismiss such charges.

"That's an ancient, unfounded allegation. Study after study, report after report, investigation after investigation, has concluded that price manipulation does not occur in our industry," said Bill Holbrook, spokesman for the National Refiners and Petrochemical Association.

The federal government asked refiners to defer maintenance after hurricanes Katrina and Rita in 2005, and upgrades and maintenance were finally done earlier this year, he said.

"Supplies dipped as units were taken offline for repairs, and mind you, there were never any shortages during that time, and that's what prompted the markets to react the way they did and drive prices higher," said Holbrook.

The Energy Information Administration, the research arm of the Department of Energy, maintains that the run-up in oil prices isn't due to speculation, but it doesn't discount the possibility.

"EIA's current analysis suggests that supply and demand fundamentals, including readily quantifiable factors such as the level of inventories and spare upstream capacity, and less quantifiable ones such as the effect of heightened geopolitical risks ... can provide an explanation of the recent increase in oil prices," the agency said Wednesday in its latest report, "This Week in Petroleum."

But EIA conceded that its models "do not 'prove' that the hypothesis that speculators have played a role in the run-up of crude oil prices is false."

Economic fundamentals clearly play a role. A hot global economy creates a surging demand for oil, even as the U.S. economy cools. The strong global economy drove up oil futures 46 percent since mid-October 2006. It's also why soybean futures prices rose 66 percent over the same period, tin 62 percent, platinum 30.8 percent and gold 26.4 percent.

But some important voices warn that economic fundamentals alone don't explain oil's surge.

"The commodity markets are the price discovery points for all energy commodities. Excessive speculation and questionable trading practices have an instant and tremendous impact on the consumer," said Craig Eerkes, chairman of the Petroleum Marketers Association, in July 12 testimony about commodities markets before the House Agriculture Committee. "American families and small businesses are at the financial whim of the energy trader and the hedge fund manager. It is time that Congress stepped in and said, 'Enough is enough.'"

Eerkes was referring to electronic trading of oil contracts on what are called Exempt Commercial Markets, or ECMs. These over-the-counter, unregulated exchanges were codified in law in 2000, thanks to intense lobbying by now-bankrupt energy giant Enron during a modernization of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the federal entity that regulates futures markets.

ECMs affect oil prices this way: Foreigners and lightly regulated hedge funds (investment pools for the ultra-wealthy) buy large oil positions on an ECM. Since these exchanges compete against the regulated New York Mercantile Exchange for investors, they affect demand for oil futures. This distorts the "price discovery" function that futures markets are supposed to provide in allowing users of oil to hedge against price changes.

Because ECMs are largely unregulated, it's difficult to tell whether, or to what degree, oil companies and wealthy oil-producing nations are driving up the price of oil by washing their profits back through futures markets to serve their own interests.

Some estimates are that 30 percent of oil futures contracts are traded on unregulated exchanges. Both Congress and federal regulators are looking at ways to bring them under greater scrutiny.

In any event, demand for oil is projected to outpace future supplies, which will push up prices. For reasons ranging from nationalism to price manipulation to ineptitude, oil-producing nations aren't investing enough in future production.

"A high price is certainly a message to invest in capacity," said Nobuo Tanaka, head of the Paris-based International Energy Administration, in an interview late last month. "In many countries, spare capacity is very limited, and limited to a small number of countries. We want to see more investment."

McClatchy Newspapers 2007

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All of the reasons mentioned in the story to some degree plus one gigantic reason that I read about maybe 2-3 weeks ago. Seems as though OPEC has been managing production so well( that depends on your perspective doesn't it)that the author believes they are the main culprit. Also the article mentioned that non OPEC oil production had dropped and something about oil storage problems in the midwest of the United States. Sorry I can't remember the website but I'm sure I'll run into it again.
 
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Good read!

Cliff Notes to the Colin Crowd:
The price of oil is being jacked up not because of normal supply and demand but because certain rich groups manipulate the price through a back door trick to the oil market.
 
Re: Oil prices soaring; But why?

Good read!

Cliff Notes to the Colin Crowd:
The price of oil is being jacked up not because of normal supply and demand but because certain rich groups manipulate the price through a back door trick to the oil market.

:yes: The oil industry brings in hundreds of billions a year. They were making record profits when prices were about 1.50/ga here in the south 6 years ago.
 
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Good read!

Cliff Notes to the Colin Crowd:
The price of oil is being jacked up not because of normal supply and demand but because certain rich groups manipulate the price through a back door trick to the oil market.

Who are they; and how do they do it ???

QueEx
 
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Who are they; and how do they do it ???

QueEx

Who: foreigners and lightly regulated hedge fund companies

how: "electronic trading of oil contracts on what are called Exempt Commercial Markets, or ECMs. These over-the-counter, unregulated exchanges were codified in law in 2000"
 
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