Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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I think he just realized the he was in over his head and seeing all those people killed made him realize it. He was built to just live in the castle normally. Not for the Iron Throne.
Yea it was too much pressure.
Come on. She's an EXPERIENCED lay and she smashed a virgin. Of course he's gonna get pussy whipped. Anyone would.
No he knew she was still in the Red Keep cause the Mountain never leaves her side. He jumped cause he knew his wife and the High Sparrow died and he had nobody. He was completely brainwashed.
For everybody complaining about the time lapses apparently you aren't familiar with GRRM and his train of thought regarding the books and the story.
He's reminded folks countless times that the story isn't necessarily told in "order". He also has reiterated several times that the GOT universe is fantasy. Dudes trying to apply logic to fantasy.
And lastly I'm glad for the expedited travel. Got tired of it taking folks 4 and 5 shows to make one damn trip.
He's reminded folks countless times that the story isn't necessarily told in "order". He also has reiterated several times that the GOT universe is fantasy. Dudes trying to apply logic to fantasy.
And lastly I'm glad for the expedited travel. Got tired of it taking folks 4 and 5 shows to make one damn trip.
It doesn't take much to pussy whoop a virgin
There are some instances where Fast travel helps move the story along. For example, the whole sequence with Sansa and Jon moving from one Northern Lord to another, we don't need to see the travel between them, just the concluding scene.
In other cases, I think the writers missed out on some opportunities to build momentum and set the timeline in place for certain characters. I would have like to have seen a scene of Arya arriving in Westeros, finding out what's been going on and then making a decision to go after the Freys based on knowing some current state of affairs in the land.
Another thing I would have liked to see is (or at least understand), is how Cersei goes from being mother of the king, to Queen Cersei first of her name. It obviously didn't happen overnight, it would have helped the story to know if Cersei planned her ascension to the Iron Throne out or if she just wanted to destroy all her enemies and the throne was an unexpected bonus. For example, a 1 or 2 minute explanation that Marshall law was declared after the wildfire incident and the commons rallied around Cersei due to her losing all her children. Wouldn't have hurt and would have added some color to her being crowned in a throne room full of misc people.
It just speaks to me that the writers/show runners realized at some point in the season that they wanted to certain characters to be in certain places before the start of season 7 and they just took the most expedient route to get them there. As someone said before, it's not a major transgression, it doesn't ruin the show, it's just a noticeable shift in execution style than they have shown previously.
In other cases, I think the writers missed out on some opportunities to build momentum and set the timeline in place for certain characters. I would have like to have seen a scene of Arya arriving in Westeros, finding out what's been going on and then making a decision to go after the Freys based on knowing some current state of affairs in the land.
Another thing I would have liked to see is (or at least understand), is how Cersei goes from being mother of the king, to Queen Cersei first of her name. It obviously didn't happen overnight, it would have helped the story to know if Cersei planned her ascension to the Iron Throne out or if she just wanted to destroy all her enemies and the throne was an unexpected bonus. For example, a 1 or 2 minute explanation that Marshall law was declared after the wildfire incident and the commons rallied around Cersei due to her losing all her children. Wouldn't have hurt and would have added some color to her being crowned in a throne room full of misc people.
It just speaks to me that the writers/show runners realized at some point in the season that they wanted to certain characters to be in certain places before the start of season 7 and they just took the most expedient route to get them there. As someone said before, it's not a major transgression, it doesn't ruin the show, it's just a noticeable shift in execution style than they have shown previously.
I think some of the confusion around Cersei is that she appears to be wearing the same clothes when she was crowned as she was the day of the trial, tho I didn't rewatch to verify, making it seem like it transpired all in the span of less than one day. Then it shifted to Danys leaving with which had to be several weeks in the making.
I can't see the city coming together that quickly for Cersei's ceremony, either. There would have been confusion after the blast, people grieving for loved ones, trying to figure out what happened, etc.
He would have to know that Cersei wasn't in the Sept because Franken-Mountain was the one who stopped him from leaving the Castle. If anything, he jumped because he knew that he was just a pawn in a game that he would never be ready for. Remember, he's the second son. Joffrey was raised from birth to be king. Tommen was never prepared for that responsibility. And from day one of him stepping into the role he was a pawn. Shit Tywin started running game just over Joffrey's barely cold corpse.
Oh please he might not have been raised to be king but he was raised to be close to one , he was raised to be a lord or general and would have been given his own corner of westeros to rule. Tommon was just a pussy and Joffrey who was raised to be king wasn't king material either.
I don't think there are many examples (in the books) of major characters jumping from continent to continent to pop up next to other major characters. The only example I can think of that in the books was Barristan Selmy showing up in Essos with Dany (and Barristan is major character even in the books)
GRRM definitely made decisions to focus certain books on a specific subsets of characters and he eventually explained how it all lined up.
What I'm talking about is the decision the showrunners made to accelerate the story lines in the last episode. It felt like a conscious decision to switch up the pace midstream. I guess if a whole bunch of cut scenes show up we'll know.
The Mountain was his mother's protector. If he was smart he should have known that even if there was no trial by combat, TM still would not have Cersei's her side or TM would still be in close proximity to her (same room). The Mountain prevented Tommen from leaving his room, so he should have known what was happening and that Cersei was not going to the Sept.
I am starting to like this dude's character more and more....in a Star Wars Darkside villan kinda way.....
How Qyburn Quietly Became One of the Most Powerful Men in 'Game of Thrones'
By Tom McKay
June 27, 2016
(Editor's note: This post is dark and full of spoilers from Game of Thrones season six.)
Much attention has been paid — and rightly so — to the strong female characters whodominated Game of Thrones' season six.
But one male character who truly came into his own this season deserves a mention as well: Qyburn, the unsavory ex-maester who cloaks his deceit and back-stabbing with smiles and sweets. Through a combination of Machiavellian intrigue, terror, and naked force, Qyburn has wormed his way to the top of Westeros' hierarchy. Here's three reasons the mad scientist has become a force to reckon with in the world of ice and fire:
He's an unparalleled scientific genius
Cruel, horrifying and unethical as his methods may be — Grand Maester Pycelle warns Cersei of the "arrogance that had [Qyburn] expelled from the Citadel," and in the books it is established that Qyburn's crimes include vivisecting the living to learn the secrets of death — Qyburn gets results.
During Ser Gregor Clegane's trial by battle with Oberyn Martell, the massive knight was pierced with a lance full of manticore venom — one of the strongest poisons known in the Game of Thrones world. Using some incredible medical knowledge known only to himself, and possibly a smattering of dark magics, Qyburn has pulled off one of two things: Either he prevented Gregor's death entirely, or more ominously, resurrected the giant's body as a some form of undying monstrosity.
Either feat would arguably establish Qyburn as one of the greatest medical and scientific innovators in Westerosi history, and perhaps the world. He has conquered death.
What the red priests can only accomplish with magic, the maester has accomplished using only his mind. Moreover, the lumbering beast he created has already proven invaluable to Cersei's plans, and we've barely even seen the knife's edge of his capabilities in combat yet.
He's the mastermind of Cersei's wildfire plot
Qyburn, having just taken control of Lord Varys' network of "little birds," was instrumental in the success of Cersei's fiery coup. Not only did he verify rumors of the wildfire stockpiles beneath the Great Sept of Baelor in the season six episode "No One," his subterfuge was doubtless the key factor in actually enabling the plot to succeed, from preparing the trap to luring Lancel Lannister to his cruel demise beneath the sept.
In one fell stroke, the wildfires consumed every noble of note in King's Landing, all leaders of the sparrows, and the queen Cersei hated — not to mention King Tommen, a death by suicide they did not anticipate but nonetheless resulted in the queen mother's ultimate power move.
Without Qyburn, Cersei would have been powerless to pull her massive murder scheme off. Technically, the bombing probably qualifies as the Game of Thrones world's first terrorist attack.
That leads into the third point, which is that...
He's risen in power faster than any other character in the show
When we first saw Qyburn in season three, the disgraced ex-maester was the sole survivor of a massacre of prisoners at Harrenhal, seemingly stunned at his "lucky" survival of the mass slaying. It was hardly an auspicious place to find himself.
Seasons later, and Qyburn has not only become the most trusted adviser to the newly crowned Queen Cersei, but seemingly earned the title of hand of the king, judging from the pin he wears at Cersei's coronation ceremony.
Qyburn's murder of Pycelle eliminated the opposition of that order to his new queen's power, as well as cemented his de facto position as both master of whisperers and acting grand maester. Furthermore, it would appear from the reanimated Clegane's position at the side of Cersei that his creation has usurped the position of lord commander of the Kingsguard. Other positions on the Small Council, such as master of laws, master of ships and master of coin, have all sat vacant or were eliminated through the wildfire plot.
There is no Small Council. Qyburn is the Small Council.
Cersei's new autocracy thus depends squarely on the machinations and counsel of Qyburn, who has perhaps become the most important member of her new order. That stunning rise to power from commoner to kingmaker is unrivaled in the show — Jon Snow, Daenerys Targaryen and Petyr Baelish may have all had relatively humble origins, but they could all claim a degree of royal heritage which enabled their ascent within Westeros' political and economic spheres.
Unfortunately for Qyburn, his astonishing transformation into one of the most powerful men in Westeros may soon be accompanied by a dazzling fall as Cersei faces the threat of a joint Targaryen-Tyrell-Dornish rebellion, the advance of Euron Greyjoy's reavers on the continent's west coast and an Iron Bank which is sure to demand its due. Only the final two seasons will tell.
https://mic.com/articles/147226/how...st-powerful-men-in-game-of-thrones#.JQtyB9fuI
How Qyburn Quietly Became One of the Most Powerful Men in 'Game of Thrones'
By Tom McKay
June 27, 2016
(Editor's note: This post is dark and full of spoilers from Game of Thrones season six.)
Much attention has been paid — and rightly so — to the strong female characters whodominated Game of Thrones' season six.
But one male character who truly came into his own this season deserves a mention as well: Qyburn, the unsavory ex-maester who cloaks his deceit and back-stabbing with smiles and sweets. Through a combination of Machiavellian intrigue, terror, and naked force, Qyburn has wormed his way to the top of Westeros' hierarchy. Here's three reasons the mad scientist has become a force to reckon with in the world of ice and fire:
He's an unparalleled scientific genius
Cruel, horrifying and unethical as his methods may be — Grand Maester Pycelle warns Cersei of the "arrogance that had [Qyburn] expelled from the Citadel," and in the books it is established that Qyburn's crimes include vivisecting the living to learn the secrets of death — Qyburn gets results.
During Ser Gregor Clegane's trial by battle with Oberyn Martell, the massive knight was pierced with a lance full of manticore venom — one of the strongest poisons known in the Game of Thrones world. Using some incredible medical knowledge known only to himself, and possibly a smattering of dark magics, Qyburn has pulled off one of two things: Either he prevented Gregor's death entirely, or more ominously, resurrected the giant's body as a some form of undying monstrosity.
Either feat would arguably establish Qyburn as one of the greatest medical and scientific innovators in Westerosi history, and perhaps the world. He has conquered death.
What the red priests can only accomplish with magic, the maester has accomplished using only his mind. Moreover, the lumbering beast he created has already proven invaluable to Cersei's plans, and we've barely even seen the knife's edge of his capabilities in combat yet.
He's the mastermind of Cersei's wildfire plot
Qyburn, having just taken control of Lord Varys' network of "little birds," was instrumental in the success of Cersei's fiery coup. Not only did he verify rumors of the wildfire stockpiles beneath the Great Sept of Baelor in the season six episode "No One," his subterfuge was doubtless the key factor in actually enabling the plot to succeed, from preparing the trap to luring Lancel Lannister to his cruel demise beneath the sept.
In one fell stroke, the wildfires consumed every noble of note in King's Landing, all leaders of the sparrows, and the queen Cersei hated — not to mention King Tommen, a death by suicide they did not anticipate but nonetheless resulted in the queen mother's ultimate power move.
Without Qyburn, Cersei would have been powerless to pull her massive murder scheme off. Technically, the bombing probably qualifies as the Game of Thrones world's first terrorist attack.
That leads into the third point, which is that...
He's risen in power faster than any other character in the show
When we first saw Qyburn in season three, the disgraced ex-maester was the sole survivor of a massacre of prisoners at Harrenhal, seemingly stunned at his "lucky" survival of the mass slaying. It was hardly an auspicious place to find himself.
Seasons later, and Qyburn has not only become the most trusted adviser to the newly crowned Queen Cersei, but seemingly earned the title of hand of the king, judging from the pin he wears at Cersei's coronation ceremony.
Qyburn's murder of Pycelle eliminated the opposition of that order to his new queen's power, as well as cemented his de facto position as both master of whisperers and acting grand maester. Furthermore, it would appear from the reanimated Clegane's position at the side of Cersei that his creation has usurped the position of lord commander of the Kingsguard. Other positions on the Small Council, such as master of laws, master of ships and master of coin, have all sat vacant or were eliminated through the wildfire plot.
There is no Small Council. Qyburn is the Small Council.
Cersei's new autocracy thus depends squarely on the machinations and counsel of Qyburn, who has perhaps become the most important member of her new order. That stunning rise to power from commoner to kingmaker is unrivaled in the show — Jon Snow, Daenerys Targaryen and Petyr Baelish may have all had relatively humble origins, but they could all claim a degree of royal heritage which enabled their ascent within Westeros' political and economic spheres.
Unfortunately for Qyburn, his astonishing transformation into one of the most powerful men in Westeros may soon be accompanied by a dazzling fall as Cersei faces the threat of a joint Targaryen-Tyrell-Dornish rebellion, the advance of Euron Greyjoy's reavers on the continent's west coast and an Iron Bank which is sure to demand its due. Only the final two seasons will tell.
https://mic.com/articles/147226/how...st-powerful-men-in-game-of-thrones#.JQtyB9fuI
House Frey is utterly incompetant and the assumption that their security is tight or even adequate is over reaching. So its not hard to believe an assassin can enter and maneuver through the castle grounds undetected especially in disguise.
Arya shown entering the castle would have been the flaw to ruin the awesome surprise. So it wasn't shown what point Arya entered the Lord Frey's grounds...ehhhh big deal.
'Game Of Thrones' Has Shown Us The Mountain's Mangled Face – Get A Better Look With These Enhanced Pictures
This post contains spoilers for Game of Thrones Season Six, Episode Ten - 'The Winds Of Winter'. Do not read on if you haven't seen the latest episode.
Season Six of Game of Thrones culminated with a typically shocking conclusion last night as Jon Snow’s parentage was finally explained, Arya got revenge on evil Walder Frey for the Stark clan and Cersei Lannister damn near set all of King’s Landing ablaze with the much discussed wildfire kept under the city.
One reveal we probably could have done without was the true state of Ser Gregor Clegane, aka The Mountain. If you cast your memories back to Season Five, you’ll remember that the gigantic member of the Kingsguard was last seen being experimented on by twisted ex-maester Qyburn in the depths of the Red Keep, following his nearly fatal wounds from Oberyn Martell during in their grisly battle.
Following a set of Frankenstein-style repairs and some haphazard medical practices, The Mountain has since been seen crushing heads and wreaking havoc under Cersei’s command, while keeping his true state secret by wearing his trademark helmet. From the bloodshot eyes and flaky purple skin poking through his visor, it was fair to assume that The Mountain probably wasn’t much of a looker any longer, but the Season Six finale finally gave fans a glimpse of his mangled face – and if you look at the enhanced images below, he looks a bit like a melted version of Varys now.
His reveal was pretty hard to get a decent look at, but the folks over at PopSugar took a screengrab of the terrifying moment, lightened the image and gave us a good look at The Mountain’s ugly mug.
Ready?
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/game-of-thrones-mountain-helmet-reveal
This post contains spoilers for Game of Thrones Season Six, Episode Ten - 'The Winds Of Winter'. Do not read on if you haven't seen the latest episode.
Season Six of Game of Thrones culminated with a typically shocking conclusion last night as Jon Snow’s parentage was finally explained, Arya got revenge on evil Walder Frey for the Stark clan and Cersei Lannister damn near set all of King’s Landing ablaze with the much discussed wildfire kept under the city.
One reveal we probably could have done without was the true state of Ser Gregor Clegane, aka The Mountain. If you cast your memories back to Season Five, you’ll remember that the gigantic member of the Kingsguard was last seen being experimented on by twisted ex-maester Qyburn in the depths of the Red Keep, following his nearly fatal wounds from Oberyn Martell during in their grisly battle.
Following a set of Frankenstein-style repairs and some haphazard medical practices, The Mountain has since been seen crushing heads and wreaking havoc under Cersei’s command, while keeping his true state secret by wearing his trademark helmet. From the bloodshot eyes and flaky purple skin poking through his visor, it was fair to assume that The Mountain probably wasn’t much of a looker any longer, but the Season Six finale finally gave fans a glimpse of his mangled face – and if you look at the enhanced images below, he looks a bit like a melted version of Varys now.
His reveal was pretty hard to get a decent look at, but the folks over at PopSugar took a screengrab of the terrifying moment, lightened the image and gave us a good look at The Mountain’s ugly mug.
Ready?
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/game-of-thrones-mountain-helmet-reveal
Fans are celebrating the demise of this minor 'Game of Thrones' character
WARNING: Spoilers for "Game of Thrones" season six.
There was a lot to love in the final episode of season six. The Tower of Joy flashback, Jon Snow is now King in the North, and the deaths of at least five major characters when Cersei lit the wildfire beneath the Sept of the Baelor.
Episode 10, "The Winder of Winter," was shocking and epic, but there was one lesser character's comeuppance that some fans were thrilled to see - the torture of Septa Unella at the hands of Gregor Clegane, aka the Mountain.
"You're not going to die today."
HBO
Unella was a devoted follower of the High Sparrow and a septa of the Faith of the Seven. Described as big boned and homely in the books, Unella is shown as Cersei's chief tormenter both during her imprisonment in the Great Sept of Baelor as well as during her walk of shame.
Unella would visit Cersei in season five in her cell and would torture her by offering a ladle of water on the condition that she confess. Cersei, infuriated by Unella, tells the septa that her face will be the last one she sees before she dies - though it was an empty threat then, it certainly wasn't now.
Eventually, Cersei confessed to her adultery and was allowed to return to the Red Keep, but only after she walked naked through King's Landing as a sign of her repentance. The entire walk, Septa Unella walks behind her crying out "Shame!" while ringing a bell to attract the attention of the people of King's Landing.
This scene even became a bit of a meme across Reddit and Twitter as fans began using the image of Septa Unella or a GIF of her saying "Shame" over and over again in season five.
The last time we saw Unella, she had been assigned to watch over Queen Margaery non-stop in the Red Keep. It appeared the Faith had finally won and were in charge in the Red Keep and King's Landing.
And now, her change of fortune could not have been more pronounced.
In episode 10, Septa Unella awoke to Cersei pouring wine all over her and asking her to confess, much like she had asked Cersei repeatedly to confess while she was imprisoned in the sept.
HBO
Then Cersei had perhaps the most amazing monologue of the entire night:
"Confess, it felt good," she begins, "Beating me, starving me, frightening me, humiliating me. You didn't do it because you cared about my atonement, you did it because it felt good. I understand. I do things because they feel good. I drink because it feels good. I killed my husband because it felt good to be rid of him. I f--- my brother, because it feels good to feel him inside of me. I lie about f---ing my brother, because it feels good to keep our son safe from hateful hypocrites. I killed your High Sparrow, and all his little sparrows, all his septons and all his septas, all his filthy soldiers because it felt good to watch them burn. It felt good to imagine their shock and their pain. No thought has ever given me greater joy. Even confessing feels good under the right circumstances."
And then, the death knell: "I said my face would be the last thing you saw before you die, do you remember?" she asks the septa.
Though Unella at first believes this is a good thing - that Cersei will kill her quickly and she'll be able to meet the gods - it didn't quite work out that way.
"What? No. Today? You're not going to die today," Cersei says cryptically. "You're not going to die for quite awhile."
Enter the undead Mountain, Ser Gregor Clegane. Unella can only look on horrified as he walks into the room.
"The gods have forsaken you," Cersei tells her. "This is your god now." She then walks out saying shame as Septa Unella screams in the background.
Many, many fans were riveted to finally see the holy septa terrorized by Cersei and to watch her reversal of fortune.
And while it was a truly shocking scene to watch, Lena Headey who plays Cersei told Entertainment Weekly the scene was almost much more graphic.
"The septa scene was supposed to be much worse," Headey said. "The scene was meant to be worse, but they couldn't do it. This is like the tame version. It's pretty bad still though. I'd take being exploded in the Sept over that any day."
Though it was a smaller moment among many, many other deaths during this finale episode, it was satisfying in a way to watch Cersei keep her word to the unmovable septa.
http://www.techinsider.io/game-of-thrones-septa-unella-mountain-2016-6
WARNING: Spoilers for "Game of Thrones" season six.
There was a lot to love in the final episode of season six. The Tower of Joy flashback, Jon Snow is now King in the North, and the deaths of at least five major characters when Cersei lit the wildfire beneath the Sept of the Baelor.
Episode 10, "The Winder of Winter," was shocking and epic, but there was one lesser character's comeuppance that some fans were thrilled to see - the torture of Septa Unella at the hands of Gregor Clegane, aka the Mountain.
"You're not going to die today."
Unella was a devoted follower of the High Sparrow and a septa of the Faith of the Seven. Described as big boned and homely in the books, Unella is shown as Cersei's chief tormenter both during her imprisonment in the Great Sept of Baelor as well as during her walk of shame.
Unella would visit Cersei in season five in her cell and would torture her by offering a ladle of water on the condition that she confess. Cersei, infuriated by Unella, tells the septa that her face will be the last one she sees before she dies - though it was an empty threat then, it certainly wasn't now.
Eventually, Cersei confessed to her adultery and was allowed to return to the Red Keep, but only after she walked naked through King's Landing as a sign of her repentance. The entire walk, Septa Unella walks behind her crying out "Shame!" while ringing a bell to attract the attention of the people of King's Landing.
This scene even became a bit of a meme across Reddit and Twitter as fans began using the image of Septa Unella or a GIF of her saying "Shame" over and over again in season five.
The last time we saw Unella, she had been assigned to watch over Queen Margaery non-stop in the Red Keep. It appeared the Faith had finally won and were in charge in the Red Keep and King's Landing.
And now, her change of fortune could not have been more pronounced.
In episode 10, Septa Unella awoke to Cersei pouring wine all over her and asking her to confess, much like she had asked Cersei repeatedly to confess while she was imprisoned in the sept.
Then Cersei had perhaps the most amazing monologue of the entire night:
"Confess, it felt good," she begins, "Beating me, starving me, frightening me, humiliating me. You didn't do it because you cared about my atonement, you did it because it felt good. I understand. I do things because they feel good. I drink because it feels good. I killed my husband because it felt good to be rid of him. I f--- my brother, because it feels good to feel him inside of me. I lie about f---ing my brother, because it feels good to keep our son safe from hateful hypocrites. I killed your High Sparrow, and all his little sparrows, all his septons and all his septas, all his filthy soldiers because it felt good to watch them burn. It felt good to imagine their shock and their pain. No thought has ever given me greater joy. Even confessing feels good under the right circumstances."
And then, the death knell: "I said my face would be the last thing you saw before you die, do you remember?" she asks the septa.
Though Unella at first believes this is a good thing - that Cersei will kill her quickly and she'll be able to meet the gods - it didn't quite work out that way.
"What? No. Today? You're not going to die today," Cersei says cryptically. "You're not going to die for quite awhile."
Enter the undead Mountain, Ser Gregor Clegane. Unella can only look on horrified as he walks into the room.
"The gods have forsaken you," Cersei tells her. "This is your god now." She then walks out saying shame as Septa Unella screams in the background.
Many, many fans were riveted to finally see the holy septa terrorized by Cersei and to watch her reversal of fortune.
And while it was a truly shocking scene to watch, Lena Headey who plays Cersei told Entertainment Weekly the scene was almost much more graphic.
"The septa scene was supposed to be much worse," Headey said. "The scene was meant to be worse, but they couldn't do it. This is like the tame version. It's pretty bad still though. I'd take being exploded in the Sept over that any day."
Though it was a smaller moment among many, many other deaths during this finale episode, it was satisfying in a way to watch Cersei keep her word to the unmovable septa.
http://www.techinsider.io/game-of-thrones-septa-unella-mountain-2016-6
Half of Stannis Army left the night they burned the girl
I think frankenmountain was ripping her clothes open when she started screaming louder as she knew the forced frenkendick was next. Cercei had her tied on her back with legs open as a reward to frankenmountain for loyal service.
Cercei's a motherfucker lol
I'm beginning to think The Mountain can't use his sword effectively or is limited to just brute strength now. Laws of physics still apply. Take out his knees and chop his feet off (from a safe distance)
With winter officially being here, on a scale of 'probably won't be that bad' to 'this is the worst decision we've ever made' how pissed do you think the Dothraki will be when the ships touchdown and they see snow for the first time?
Oh and let's not forget the army of ice zombies
that's huge...the battle ahead looks so easy for dany to win...I'm thinking her force might be cut down some to make things interesting...good point that the weather might be a factor...and ya it's possible that her army might encounter white walkers first depending on how far the walkers are able to advance by the time dany and crew get to westeros
Tommen jumped because he realized he wasn't cut out for that sh*t. It was too much pressure for him. You can't be a gentle king in Westeros. Cersi sheltered him too much. Other kings and princes want hawks and swords and things like that to play with when they're young. They want to be warriors etc... He has a cat named Ser Pounce... REALLY DUDE!
He's afraid to use force, he's afraid to use his power... He wife is sexy as f*ck, and he didn't go get her? Hell, he could have had whores and concubines etc... He was just overwhelmed. He was placed in a position that he had no business being in. He didn't have the "hate" gene. Once he saw the Sept burn down, he knew, "This game ain't for me." Like someone else said in here, he was a normal kid, who didn't stand a chance.
I thought of it as both...plus jon mentioned it when he said something about the cold bringing in the walkers...I think it will stretch out to king's landing...winter coming to just winterfell wouldn't really be cause for worry imo
who fucking....
that face is for shame but she got a body on her tho...zombie mountain gonna enjoy that
his suicide felt forced...can't call it...my guess is losing margaery but I would've liked to have seen more scenes w/ him letting us into his head and what he was going thru...many ppl will claim they saw it coming but I read the spoilers a while ago and even then it still made little sense imo...it just seemed like an easy way to fulfill the prophecy and get his character out the way...but there was no sense of him being conflicted enough to commit suicide so suddenly
Underneath all of that....who knew.
But the chick looks like megyn kelly lite. So I cannot tolerate her face for more reasons than one.
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ya good points...teens kill themselves for far less things unfortunately so ya dude mighta been pretty much doomed from the start
he jumped because he thought his whole world crumbled. It's actually a normal response considering everything he'd been through.
I get on him for not having a personality. It's not that he's young or that he didn't know exactly what he wanted to do or how to rule. It's no personality that i didn't like.
If he questioned anything or we got a peek into something then i'd feel much better about it.
I fully expected him to kill himself though. I didn't think it would happen this episode but eventually i thought he'd kill himself because of all the shit going on. Mom might die, dad dead, sister, brother dead, uncle a fugitive, grand father gone, everybody in his ear, wife in his ear about her brother, sparrow trying to tell him what to do. i fully get ALL OF THAT. ive never said he needed to handle it with grace and class of an adult or anything close. Joffrey was getting checked left and right by tryion so its not that he's supposed to be a leader. just have a personality as a human being lol
that's painfully obvious to those who want to actually think lol.
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