Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

[Bedroom Bully]

Should it be Jon? Yes! But, Littlefinger is in a far better position to claim the lordship of Winterfell because 1) he has the might - he has the Knights of the Vale with him and basically controls the young Lord of the Vale; 2) he has the official political position, since he has already cut a side deal with Cersei, who still has some influence with King Tommen, who can issue an official decree; and 3) Sansa owes him big-time for bringing the Vale knights, so if she agrees to marry him, then he has a legitimate Stark in his family.

The only way Little Finger holds Winterfell is by force. The northern lords have defeated the Vale many times in the past and won't let a vale leader rule the North. They give two shits about an order from King Tommen. Just a prediction that they will name Jon the King.

I have some other predictions, but I don't wanna ruin it for anyone. Some big names dying tomorrow.

 

[vandamation]

Since Bran is the male Stark...Wouldn't he be the most legitimate heir to Winterfell and House Stark?

 

[ViCiouS]

Since Bran is the male Stark...Wouldn't he be the most legitimate heir to Winterfell and House Stark?

he is MIA and most of the world thinks he is dead

 

[Joe Money]

Since Bran is the male Stark...Wouldn't he be the most legitimate heir to Winterfell and House Stark?

True. But doesn't everyone still believe that he is dead? It was believed that Theon killed him and Rickon until they actually found Rickon?

 

[ViCiouS]

Should it be Jon? Yes! But, Littlefinger is in a far better position to claim the lordship of Winterfell because 1) he has the might - he has the Knights of the Vale with him and basically controls the young Lord of the Vale; 2) he has the official political position, since he has already cut a side deal with Cersei, who still has some influence with King Tommen, who can issue an official decree; and 3) Sansa owes him big-time for bringing the Vale knights, so if she agrees to marry him, then he has a legitimate Stark in his family.

Cersi also wants Sansa dead - most of the world think she helped Tyrion kill Jofferey...
Little Finger is too smart to try taking Winterfel... the North doesn't respect him and by keeping Sansa alive but claiming Winterfel he makes an enemy of the Lannisters too...

He might get her to marry him but forget about him taking Winterfel

 

[DC_Dude]

Tommen is going to die I bet

 

[Bedroom Bully]

Since Bran is the male Stark...Wouldn't he be the most legitimate heir to Winterfell and House Stark?

Everyone thinks he's dead and he has a bigger role in the greater story. I hope he reveals what happens in the Tower of Joy tomorrow. It's about time for us to find out if Jon is a Stark/Tygarean.

 

[J.A.]

Karl was nice with them knives

Tommen is going to die I bet

^^^^^^^^ it is known

 

[Bedroom Bully]

Tommen is going to die I bet

This was predicted two seasons ago. The question is how it will happen.

 

[DC_Dude]

You're ruining it for the people who don't know.

Delete your post then. My bad, I was just guessing.

 

[guyver]

But to keep the convo going, has Ramsay ever really battled someone one on one in a fair fight? I can't recall.

Don't think so, but for my argument he doesn't need to have had a fair fight or even be considered a great fighter. My position is that Ramsey skill set limited or not and the possible rivalry in Ramsey head and the duality of the two characters is why I don't approve of the fight scene. Alooking keep in mind that no one would continue to use a long distance weapon in a close quarters fight.

 

[Camille]

Should it be Jon? Yes! But, Littlefinger is in a far better position to claim the lordship of Winterfell because 1) he has the might - he has the Knights of the Vale with him and basically controls the young Lord of the Vale; 2) he has the official political position, since he has already cut a side deal with Cersei, who still has some influence with King Tommen, who can issue an official decree; and 3) Sansa owes him big-time for bringing the Vale knights, so if she agrees to marry him, then he has a legitimate Stark in his family.

After leaving her with Ramsey, I don't think she owes him.

 

[Damian Stone]

Jon is as clueless as Ned was, a typical Stark male with typical Stark values. I think he would be disastrous as permanent Leader of the North.

 

[Flawless]

After leaving her with Ramsey, I don't think she owes him.

oh please, if she wasn't such a stuck up bitch and gave up the pussy like a good wife Ramsey probably would have been nicer to her, she owes little finger everything

 

[Camille]

oh please, if she wasn't such a stuck up bitch and gave up the pussy like a good wife Ramsey probably would have been nicer to her, she owes little finger everything

I hope you are joking, but from posts you've made in the past, I don't think you are. Ramsey was a sick fuck who got off on the torture and humiliation of others. There was no being a good wife to him.

 

[ViCiouS]

I hope you are joking, but from posts you've made in the past, I don't think you are. Ramsey was a sick fuck who got off on the torture and humiliation of others. There was no being a good wife to him.

she owes him for bringin the Vale to win the battle

 

[Camille]

she owes him for bringin the Vale to win the battle

Nope. After Ramsey, this makes them even. Almost.

 

[guyver]

I hope you are joking, but from posts you've made in the past, I don't think you are. Ramsey was a sick fuck who got off on the torture and humiliation of others. There was no being a good wife to him.

Agreed. Even the woman he seemed to really care for got feed to the hounds after being killed Theon and Sansa.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Since Bran is the male Stark...Wouldn't he be the most legitimate heir to Winterfell and House Stark?

And there is the fact that he is crippled.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

This was predicted two seasons ago. The question is how it will happen.

To quote Sansa, tomorrow.

 

[guyver]

you got it.

 

[vandamation]

True. But doesn't everyone still believe that he is dead? It was believed that Theon killed him and Rickon until they actually found Rickon?

I understand that its believed that he's dead but at some point Bran will reveal that he's alive. My point is... I believe that Jon will leave Winterfell and Bran will become the Lord of Winterfell... I can even see him marrying Meera Reed... Not saying thiswill happen but I can see this happening... Any thoughts?

 

[Simply Sickenin']

I'm rewatching the season to get ready for tomorrow and you know what storyline I COMPLETELY forgot about .... Dorne.
They started a major civil unrest and uprising storyline in the first episode with the sand snakes wiping out House Martell. And then nothing. We haven't heard shit about Dorne since. Not even some small expositional scene with Qyburn reading a raven at a small counsel meeting.

 

[vandamation]

And there is the fact that he is crippled.

That doesn't mean he can't have kids though... I believe that Jon may go South and he may even vie for the iron throne... I believe Rickon's death signals the fact that Bran will be the New Lord Stark. Just my theory

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

I'm rewatching the season to get ready for tomorrow and you know what storyline I COMPLETELY forgot about .... Dorne.
They started a major civil unrest and uprising storyline in the first episode with the sand snakes wiping out House Martell. And then nothing. We haven't heard shit about Dorne since. Not even some small expositional scene with Qyburn reading a raven at a small counsel meeting.

If the mom doesnt even care, why should you?

 

[ViCiouS]

Nope. After Ramsey, this makes them even. Almost.

thats not how power works - she OWES him
the person with an army makes the rules

 

[LSN]

Who is "they"? Doesn't that decree have to come from the bastard's father or from a king himself? Ned Stark is dead and Littlefinger and Cersei have been plotting this since last season:

she also wanted to see sansa head on a pike as part of that deal...like others have said...it'll be interesting to see how it plays out...a lot of moving parts...I don't think cersei (sansa head) or LF (warden of the north/sansa booty) will get their way

 

[LSN]

I have some other predictions, but I don't wanna ruin it for anyone. Some big names dying tomorrow.

if they are genuine predictions (and not legit season spoilers which are out there) why not share them?

 

[LSN]

Tommen is going to die I bet

what's the basis for your prediction?

 

[LSN]

I'm rewatching the season to get ready for tomorrow and you know what storyline I COMPLETELY forgot about .... Dorne.
They started a major civil unrest and uprising storyline in the first episode with the sand snakes wiping out House Martell. And then nothing. We haven't heard shit about Dorne since. Not even some small expositional scene with Qyburn reading a raven at a small counsel meeting.

I don't think there's really any civil unrest or not much if any...from what I remember...many if not all the ppl look @ the ruler as being weak and the dude who head got crushed was more respected than the dude in the wheelchair...dorne as a whole pretty much wants war...I might have to watch it again but remember the dude main bodyguard and his son were the only one who "put up a fight" everyone else fell into line and felt that change was necessary

 

[LSN]

thats not how power works - she OWES him
the person with an army makes the rules

ya LF looked a little rapey in the preview when he said you know what I want...I mistakenly keep thinking he has a crush on her due to his feelings about cat...but as someone reminded me if he can put a child in sansa the north is his...jon is actually a threat to him and he's a threat to jon (and maybe jon finds out how LF is pretty much responsible for the beginning of the downfall of the starks)...wonder if sansa will pit them against each other or use jon to take him out which is a lil far fetched but idk despite him saving the day she made it clear in ep 1 she KNOWS what he is about and what he's done to her and her family which is deserving of death...to her credit tho luckily she didn't act on her emotions that 1st ep cuz she needed him in the end...will be interesting to see how sansa works this and how LF and jon interact w/ each other

 

[Camille]

thats not how power works - she OWES him
the person with an army makes the rules

Perhaps not. I still say she doesn't owe him, even if she is willing to form an alliance with him or marry him.

 

[stretchwallz]

Jon will become King if the North. Little has no rights to the North.

No Jon is a bastard ...a famous bastard would never fly. LF doesn't play by the rules he's obtaining castles and lordships like he's playing monopoly

Since Bran is the male Stark...Wouldn't he be the most legitimate heir to Winterfell and House Stark?

Bran was lord as soon as Rob died and still is.... If he reappears the succession goes to him. Sansa and LF would have to kill him

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

ya LF looked a little rapey in the preview when he said you know what I want...I mistakenly keep thinking he has a crush on her due to his feelings about cat...but as someone reminded me if he can put a child in sansa the north is his...jon is actually a threat to him and he's a threat to jon (and maybe jon finds out how LF is pretty much responsible for the beginning of the downfall of the starks)...wonder if sansa will pit them against each other or use jon to take him out which is a lil far fetched but idk despite him saving the day she made it clear in ep 1 she KNOWS what he is about and what he's done to her and her family which is deserving of death...to her credit tho luckily she didn't act on her emotions that 1st ep cuz she needed him in the end...will be interesting to see how sansa works this and how LF and jon interact w/ each other

Jon is not finding that out in one episode. Beliesh covers his tracks well. He's not going to get discovered by a bunch of stupid kids and their stupid dog.

 

[vandamation]

she owes him for bringin the Vale to win the battle

How does Sansa owe LF anything when it was her lie that helped him win the Vale over in the first place... If anything, LF owes her two times over.