I guess! It just cames across as very foul for someone of his character. Unless, I missed something obvious, he has no idea what they are going to do to her and I find it hard to believe he doesn't care about her enough to not have considered it.
Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
- Thread starter GAMETHEORY
- Start date
I guess! It just cames across as very foul for someone of his character. Unless, I missed something obvious, he has no idea what they are going to do to her and I find it hard to believe he doesn't care about her enough to not have considered it.
Exactly
Rock for the rest of us that aren't quite in the loop..What the hell is this you keep on posting??
Ouroboros...
I think they are posting spoilers and those who have read the books will probably figure it out. That's just how faggots are even though there is another thread for spoilers they can't help themselves, same with that pic of he dinner couple page backRock for the rest of us that aren't quite in the loop..What the hell is this you keep on posting??
heres whattheflick take on The rains of castemere
Obviously no black folks in Westeros, after Catelyn slapped Roose Bolton he took off running along with some other men. NO ONE found that suspicious? The Starks are good people that believe in honor too much.
Bolton was the one who killed Rob but I think it was too late for them to escape anyways, I doubt they could have fought their way out the castle
Obviously no black folks in Westeros, after Catelyn slapped Roose Bolton he took off running along with some other men. NO ONE found that suspicious? The Starks are good people that believe in honor too much.
you got it all wrong... watch this scene- its one of many that shows you who Little Finger is
Game of Thrones S03 E09 Rains of Castemere thoughts:
- The Blackfish got one good look at those three Alice the goon looking sea hag Frey girls and started planning his escape
Disagree... Littlefinger never had Ned's back...Catelyn has always been his goal. She was always engaged to the Starks for political reasons. Littlefinger resented that his true love could never be with him due to these "Starks" he tried to physically fight Brandon and lost. He realized that battle was their way so he would destroy the Starks through subterfuge and win Catelyn. He rose up to in KL and made it to the small council, then Lyanna Stark is abducted, Brandon (who beat his ass) rushed to KL and is taken prisoner, his father is summoned to testify on his behalf and all 3 Starks die!?? Littlefinger controls pussy and money in KL...Varys stated he's the most dangerous person in the 7 kingdoms. All actions are based on incentives; and Littlefinger only incentive has been Catelyn. He told Ned to his face "I told you not to trust me" when Ned made his move. Ned was under the assumption the City Watch would back him because Littlefinger (the man that paid them) was on his side. He wanted Ned out of the picture for marrying his woman...I think he had Jon Arynn killed just to get Ned to KL so he could ruin him, Littlefinger also planted the seed of a Lannister assassination plot on Bran in Catelyn's head when she arrived in KL, which started the war of 5 kings through Catelyn capturing Tyrion.
Littlefinger is not to be fucked with...he's got a castle and is set to be Lord of the Vale soon. An army follows, no way the people responsible for Catelyn's death go unpunished and he's gonna get Sansa one way or another (she's a younger Catelyn)
Look at it from the other perspective. He never from the jump was really down with the Wildling agenda, he just was following the last orders he got from Halfhand.
I don't doubt that he was sprung on Ygritte, but that might have been his first piece of ass, so you know he gonna get twisted up around that aspect. But he wasn't in LOVE with her, so in the end he gonna stick to his original oath to the Night Watch.
Y'all killing me with this gifs and pics.
This thread might fuck around and hit 100 pages before the finale on Sunday.
A full 25 page jump in the span of one episode to the next.
'Game of Thrones' author George R.R. Martin: Why he wrote The Red Wedding -- EXCLUSIVE
by James Hibberd
Millions of Game of Thrones fans are feeling sadness, outrage, and, sure, some perverse excitement after watching Sunday’s episode titled “The Rains of Castamere.” But for Game of Thrones author George R.R. Martin, such reactions to “The Red Wedding” are nothing new. Martin has been receiving exclamatory emails about the disastrous Stark-Frey union for more than a decade, ever since he published his Song of Ice and Fire saga’s third novel, A Storm of Swords. Below, the author reveals why Robb had to die, gives his reaction to upset readers and spills the scene’s horrifying real-life inspiration.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How early in the process of writing the book series did you know you were gonna kill off Robb and Catelyn?
GEORGE R.R. MARTIN: I knew it almost from the beginning. Not the first day, but very soon. I’ve said in many interviews that I like my fiction to be unpredictable. I like there to be considerable suspense. I killed Ned in the first book and it shocked a lot of people. I killed Ned because everybody thinks he’s the hero and that, sure, he’s going to get into trouble, but then he’ll somehow get out of it. The next predictable thing is to think his eldest son is going to rise up and avenge his father. And everybody is going to expect that. So immediately [killing Robb] became the next thing I had to do.
Since Song of Ice and Fire so often subverts reader expectations and avoids traditional fantasy storytelling structures, should fans have any real hope that this tale will have a happy ending? As The Boy recently said on Thrones, “If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.”
I’ve stated numerous times that I anticipate a bittersweet ending.
What sort of reactions have you received from readers over the years about the scene?
Extreme. Both positive and negative. That was the hardest scene I’ve ever had to write. It’s two-thirds of the way through the book, but I skipped over it when I came to it. So the entire book was done and there was still that one chapter left. Then I wrote it. It was like murdering two of your children. I try to make the readers feel they’ve lived the events of the book. Just as you grieve if a friend is killed, you should grieve if a fictional character is killed. You should care. If somebody dies and you just go get more popcorn, it’s a superficial experience isn’t it?
Why do you think it has such a powerful reaction? Robb wasn’t one of your “viewpoint characters” in the books and Catelyn wasn’t really a beloved personality.
[Long pause] That’s an interesting question. I don’t know if I have a good answer. Maybe the way I did it. There’s a certain amount of foreboding leading up to it. It’s a betrayal. It comes out of left field. It’s at a wedding feast. Robb has made his peace and you think the worst is over. Then it comes out of nowhere. There’s also secondary characters killed. Then outside hundreds of Stark people are killed. It’s not just two people.
To me, that Robb and Catelyn are family makes it worse. And Catelyn has suffered so much and lost so many people around her, and she actually thinks she’s lost more than she really has (since she doesn’t know for sure that Arya, Bran and Rickon are alive). Then this happens.
She also has the moment there to plead. There’s also her murdering the hostage. He’s not a son that Frey particularly values.* So in the end her bluff is empty. And she does. She carries through. There’s a certain power to that too.
I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this, but: Have you ever regretted the scene?
Martin: No. Not as a writer. It’s probably the most powerful scene in the books. It cost me some readers, but gained me many more. It’s going to be hard for me to watch it [on the show]. It’s going to be a tough night. Because I love these characters too. And in a TV show you get to know the actors. You’re also ending that relationship with an actor that you have affection for. Richard Madden and Michelle Fairley have done an amazing job.
What do you say to readers who are upset about the scene?
It depends on what they say. What can you say to someone who says they’ll never read your book again? People read books for different reasons. I respect that. Some read for comfort. And some of my former readers have said their life is hard, their mother is sick, their dog died, and they read fiction to escape. They don’t want to get hit in the mouth with something horrible. And you read that certain kind of fiction where the guy will always get the girl and the good guys win and it reaffirms to you that life is fair. We all want that at times. There’s a certain vicarious release to that. So I’m not dismissive of people who want that. But that’s not the kind of fiction I write, in most cases. It’s certainly not what Ice and Fire is. It tries to be more realistic about what life is. It has joy, but it also had pain and fear. I think the best fiction captures life in all its light and darkness.
One of my favorite elements of the scene is you introduce this idea of “salt and bread.” We accept that as readers — Okay, in this fantasy world, people don’t harm each other once they eat a host’s bread and salt in their home. Then you break your own rule. It’s like you’re smacking the reader upside the head for being so dense — “Of course they’re not going to follow that silly rule ALL the time!”
It was stolen from history. Hospitality laws were real in Dark Ages society. A host and guest were not allowed to harm each other even if they were enemies. By violating that law, the phrase is, they “condemn themselves for all time.”
What about the Red Wedding itself? Is that based on history too?
The Red Wedding is based on a couple real events from Scottish history. One was a case called The Black Dinner. The king of Scotland was fighting the Black Douglas clan. He reached out to make peace. He offered the young Earl of Douglas safe passage. He came to Edinburgh Castle and had a great feast. Then at the end of the feast, [the king's men] started pounding on a single drum. They brought out a covered plate and put it in front of the Earl and revealed it was the head of a black boar — the symbol of death. And as soon as he saw it, he knew what it meant. They dragged them out and put them to death in the courtyard. The larger instance was the Glencoe Massacre. Clan MacDonald stayed with the Campbell clan overnight and the laws of hospitality supposedly applied. But the Campbells arose and started butchering every MacDonald they could get their hands on. No matter how much I make up, there’s stuff in history that’s just as bad, or worse.
source
great read
Fam, explain this scene to me. When I first watched it i thought Jon was going to grab her and hoist her on the horse. But he rode the fuck past her, past the trees and was mutherfucking gonnnnn...
Why? Seriously? Why like that? I assumed it must of been some-sort strategy? Especially when you consider his character it doesn't seem like he would have left her like that. No?
Crows before hoes like the other dudes said.Plus Jon had just seen her murder that old man. and he was probably remembering how she said she would cut his dick off if he betrayed her.
Co-sign 100%
Niggas wanna drop spoilers sooo badly.... that they have resorted to posting SPOILER RIDDLES AND PICTIONARY CLUES...
And they will probably come back to this thread and justify this foul behavior by saying something stupid like: "if you can figure it out, then it's not a spoiler, is it?"
Instead of just posting all this bullshit over in the GoT Spoilers thread.
co-sign 100%
niggas wanna drop spoilers sooo badly.... That they have resorted to posting spoiler riddles and pictionary clues...
And they will probably come back to this thread and justify this foul behavior by saying something stupid like: "if you can figure it out, then it's not a spoiler, is it?"
Instead of just posting all this bullshit over in the got spoilers thread.
c/s 1000%
There was a pretty decent explanation a few pages back when i was bringing this up about the wolves. We'll have to wait till next episode to see if it was correct.
That would be unfortunate. I had no idea he was dropping spoiler clues and was tempted to look-up this picture he keeps on posting. Thanks for the heads up!
Co-sign 100%
Niggas wanna drop spoilers sooo badly.... that they have resorted to posting SPOILER RIDDLES AND PICTIONARY CLUES...
And they will probably come back to this thread and justify this foul behavior by saying something stupid like: "if you can figure it out, then it's not a spoiler, is it?"
Instead of just posting all this bullshit over in the GoT Spoilers thread.
Stay away from that picture and CONTINUE to stay away from wiki and google. The Red Wedding was huge, but it was only the first of several surprises yet to come.
That dude is Hilarious! I always watch his reviews on TV Shows/Movies....Excellent.
Last edited:
That dude is Hilarious! I always watch his reviews on TV Shows/Movies....Excellent.
i must be on the fbi list cause that shit was hard. i hope they show more wicked shit
There is a whole series of these post show parodies on youtube. These are freaking hilarious.
i must be on the fbi list cause that shit was hard. i hope they show more wicked shit
c/s
This thread is about the show!
How hard is that to understand?
I dont wanna hear about what happened in the books!
I have not read them yet, & want to read the differences myself, in my own good time.
Funny thing is, he claims to not have read the books
Dude faggot ass keeps doing that shit!
Bitch shit, there are a few others as well.
I just skip over his posts. Does he really
Have to wonder why people dont like him!?
The only problem is this thread didn't start out as a No Spoiler or Show only thread. Go back and look at some of the (much) earlier pages. People were outright asking about how things happened in the book.
People were posting links to the books, people were posting snippets from the book.
Somewhere along season 2, people started to get uptight about it.
My feeling is this. If you really want to have no spoilers. Create a No Spoiler thread for each season. Now if someone comes in a no spoiler thread and spoils, then they deserve whatever vitriol you can come up with.
People were posting links to the books, people were posting snippets from the book.
Somewhere along season 2, people started to get uptight about it.
My feeling is this. If you really want to have no spoilers. Create a No Spoiler thread for each season. Now if someone comes in a no spoiler thread and spoils, then they deserve whatever vitriol you can come up with.
Bro, fuck your feelings on this. Regardless how you feel or what you think, this is a thread for the show and has been that way from the beginning. When spoilers began to slip out and run rampant a separate thread was made for that very purpose. Why the constant back and forth and discussion on the matter. Just take the book talk to the book thread. Its clear that the regulars in this thread do NOT want book spoilers in any capacity and for that reason there was a thread created for anyone wanting additional info, spoilers, or book cross references.
Why are we still talking about this?
there was a thread created just for spoilers and its still around. i was with u that it first didnt started out that way or that it wasnt clear enough. but now it should be (at least at the beginning of seasons 3)and there is a spoiler thread created. this thread should be only about what happen on screen not in the books. if rocky really is posting spoiler he is a foul dude plain and simple.
Similar threads
