Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

he got awfully close to them dragons tho on his own...unscathed :dance: not buying his theory that they're simply "smart pets"
the lore is that they are as intelligent or more intelligent than man... those dragons are still kids less than 6 years old
 
Too much to quote. Some points off of previous posts.

Dany is not immune to fire. Her surviving the pyre at the end of S01 was the result of blood magic. One time thing. This latest episode is a huge deviation. GRRM has said as much.

Utter hogwash

Someone not immune to fire cannot walk through flames, obviously NOT a "one time thing"

Danaerys wasn't strategically walking around flames, dude lol
 
Utter hogwash

Someone not immune to fire cannot walk through flames, obviously NOT a "one time thing"

Danaerys wasn't strategically walking around flames, dude lol

Yall are arguing book vs show. In the books, she's not immune to fire. Not at all. The show deviated from the book. It's clear she's immune to fire in the show, UNLESS they show us otherwise on Sunday.
 
Too much to quote. Some points off of previous posts.

Dany is not immune to fire. Her surviving the pyre at the end of S01 was the result of blood magic. One time thing. This latest episode is a huge deviation. GRRM has said as much.

The Baratheons control The Stormlands and Dragonstone. One of Robert's many, many bastards (Gendry) could take over if the King grants it. I say King because we all know Tommen won't be King when this is all said and done. Dany is going to take that shit back when she sails across the Narrow Sea with the Dothraki Army, the Unsullied and her dragons.

Tyrion has almost white hair and two different eye colors in the book which is part of the fuel for the speculation that he is a Targaryean. His fascination with dragons. His hair. His eyes. All signs are that Tyrion's mom got chopped down by Aerys and gave birth to Tyrion. When you take Dany, Tyrion, and Jon Snow, there is your three headed dragon (Targaryens) (I'm sure this has been discussed).


How does blood magic work? Sacrificing lives in exchange for something? If that's the case, she offered up a whole building full of Khal's so she should be good on fire for a minute right?
 
How does blood magic work? Sacrificing lives in exchange for something? If that's the case, she offered up a whole building full of Khal's so she should be good on fire for a minute right?
Aahhh.... That would be a 'no'.

She wasn't performing a blood magic ritual when she killed all the Khal's. :smh:

However, she WAS performing a blood magic ritual in season 1, to get her dragon eggs hatched, which probably also made her good on fire forever.

She knowingly tried to bring Khal Drogo back from the dead by trading the life of the witch.... but it seems that witch's soul containes enough magic to bring the dragons back instead.

Her 'intent' was just not the same between the 2 events, when she survived a fiery blaze.
 
And where in the hell is Bronn?
Hadnt seen him since him and Jaime left Dorne.

Bronn ain't getting wrapped up in the Lannister's bullshit right now. He's too busy planning his next trip to Dorne to try and get some of that Bad Pussy.
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Aahhh.... That would be a 'no'.

She wasn't performing a blood magic ritual when she killed all the Khal's. :smh:

However, she WAS performing a blood magic ritual in season 1, to get her dragon eggs hatched, which probably also made her good on fire forever.

She knowingly tried to bring Khal Drogo back from the dead by trading the life of the witch.... but it seems that witch's soul containes enough magic to bring the dragons back instead.

Her 'intent' was just not the same between the 2 events, when she survived a fiery blaze.
That makes sense if that is the case. I'm not sure they've gone that in depth about how that shit works....the part that seems clear is "a life for a life" or something like that. The ritual with the dragons, 3 lives for 3 dragons (Drogo, the baby, and the witch)....so would the thinking be she is immune to fire during the ritual? And when did she learn blood magic? Seems like something you would have to study for a minute. But, she also exhibited resistance to heat before that ritual. Either way....it seems clear that the show is making her fireproof which I'm fine with. Just thinking about how blood magic works.
 
How does blood magic work? Sacrificing lives in exchange for something? If that's the case, she offered up a whole building full of Khal's so she should be good on fire for a minute right?
Aahhh.... That would be a 'no'.

She wasn't performing a blood magic ritual when she killed all the Khal's. :smh:

However, she WAS performing a blood magic ritual in season 1, to get her dragon eggs hatched, which probably also made her good on fire forever.

She knowingly tried to bring Khal Drogo back from the dead by trading the life of the witch.... but it seems that witch's soul containes enough magic to bring the dragons back instead.

Her 'intent' was just not the same between the 2 events, when she survived a fiery blaze.
The slave witch was the one who did the blood magic spell. She used the blood of Drogo's horse for part of the spell and ultimately it was the baby and Drogo's Khal that was sacrificed in exchange for Zombie Drogo.
 
The slave witch was the one who did the blood magic spell. She used the blood of Drogo's horse for part of the spell and ultimately it was the baby and Drogo's Khal that was sacrificed in exchange for Zombie Drogo.
Well. The blood did splatter on her the tent and the tv shot pause for a good min, thus this caused her to become fire proof and trade those 3 lives for 3 dragons, the witch did say dont come in whatever it maybe becauze of strange effects...but I might be digging to deep.
 
And I wouldn't blame him....


Especially after being betrothed to that troll lookin chick.

Jamie did him a favor by takin him to Dorne.
She wasn't that bad looking. I believe he left because Jaime promised him more cash.

HBO Released their hints for the next two episodes, and it shouldn't surprise anyone that Cercei is about to catch another lost.
 
That makes sense if that is the case. I'm not sure they've gone that in depth about how that shit works....the part that seems clear is "a life for a life" or something like that. The ritual with the dragons, 3 lives for 3 dragons (Drogo, the baby, and the witch)....so would the thinking be she is immune to fire during the ritual? And when did she learn blood magic? Seems like something you would have to study for a minute. But, she also exhibited resistance to heat before that ritual. Either way....it seems clear that the show is making her fireproof which I'm fine with. Just thinking about how blood magic works.
I'm not saying that Dany 'knows' how to use blood magic. :smh: Or ever learned a little bit.

What I was implying is that it seems like the whole concept of 'resurrection' on the tv show... has more to do with an individual's personal 'intentions' & 'beliefs'.

Thoros of Myr resurrected Beric because he 'believed' it was possible... And that was his 'intention' whenever he chanted over his body the additional 5x times he brought him back.

Melisandre resurrected Jon Snow because she 'believed' it was possible... Plus that was her 'intention' to do so. That's what she finally wanted to happen when she just flat out begged and said 'Please' at the very end of the ceremony. (Notice: she has NEVER begged for anything to happen on the show. :smh: She just does shit. With No apologies. No remorse. No pleading.)

Dany got her dragons to come to life because she 'believed' it was possible for the dragons (or Khal Drogo) to be resurrected if she sacrificed the Witch, in exchange. However, i don't think she knew which ones would come to life beforehand, but she was willing to settle for ANY one of them coming to life. Either Drogo. The dragons. Or her baby.

But when Dany burned all those Dothraki Soldiers, she did not 'intend' nor 'believe' any of them would live. (That wasn't what she 'wanted' with all her heart.)

That's the difference.

As far as her being immune to fire, I doubt that is part of the effects of blood magic. That's just a Targaryen thing.

She showed signs of her fire immunity getting stronger & stronger every season, without any magic involved.
 
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I'm not saying that Dany 'knows' how to use blood magic. :smh: Or ever learned a little bit.

What I was implying is that it seems like the whole concept of 'resurrection' on the tv show has more to do with an individual's personal 'intentions' & 'beliefs'.

Thoros of Myr resurrected Beric because he 'believed' it was possible... And that was his 'intention' whenever he chanted over his body the additional 5x times he brought him back.

Melisandre resurrected Jon Snow because she 'believed' it was possible... Plus that was her 'intention' to do so. That's what she finally wanted to happen when she just flat out begged and said 'Please' at the very end of the ceremony. (Notice: she has NEVER begged for anything to happen on the show. :smh: She just does shit. With No apologies. No remorse. No pleading.)

Dany got her dragons to come to life because she 'believed' it was possible for the dragons (or Khal Drogo) to be resurrected if she sacrificed the Witch, in exchange. However, i don't think she knew which ones would come to life beforehand, but she was willing to settle for any of them coming to life. Either Drogo. The dragons. Or her baby.

But when Dany burned all those Soldiers, she did not 'intend' nor 'believe' any of them would live. That wasn't what she 'wanted' with all her heart.

That's the difference.

As far as her being immune to fire, I doubt that is part of the effects of blood magic. That's just a Targaryen thing.

She showed signs of her fire immunity getting stronger & stronger every season, without any magic involved.
I'll go with most of that. I don't think her fire proof-ness is just a Targaryan thing cuz it didn't work for her brother. I'm good with whatever explanation they wanna give though. The chick is special. I get it. Lol
 
I'll go with most of that. I don't think her fire proof-ness is just a Targaryan thing cuz it didn't work for her brother. I'm good with whatever explanation they wanna give though. The chick is special. I get it. Lol
Seems not every Targaryen has the fireproof ability. Just some of them.

Maybe it's just the females in the family. :dunno:

But in the books, there was also some mention of a 'red comet' appearing in the skies. And certain people born while the comet was overhead having special abilities. :dunno:

I think Dany, Jon Snow & Tyrion are somehow connected to the red comet, so maybe that has something to do with it. :dunno:

But I never read the books, so I don't know. I just heard about this 'red comet' from spoilers.

 
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Seems not every Targaryen has the fireproof ability. Just some of them.

Maybe it's just the females in the family. :dunno:

But in the books, there was also some mention of a 'red comet' appearing in the skies. And certain people born while the comet was overhead having special abilities. :dunno:

I think Dany, Jon Snow & Tyrion are somehow connected to the red comet, so maybe that has something to do with it. :dunno:

But I never read the books, so I don't know. I just heard about this 'red comet' from spoilers.


yeah i've heard about the red comet thing too. that could be part of it.
 
There are theories floating around that Littlefinger is playing chess with the entire North and shaping events. Including Ricard being turned over and the letter sent to Jon Snow. What set people off is when Littlefinger offered the falcon to Robin...he said "Come and see".

A key statement repeated in the letter sent to Snow.

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Starks are a collection of fuck ups...she's going to trust Baylis now? Dumbass! Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice....well don't get fooled again as GW would say.
 
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Starks are a collection of fuck ups...she's going to trust Baylis now? Dumbass! Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice....well don't get fooled again as GW would say.

she realizes the treachery he's caused her family and lets him live...then tryna argue military strategy w/ davos...still a dumb bitch
 
dany gave jorah a reason to live...that redhead wildling dude is smitten af lol...great ep overall
 
Utter hogwash

Someone not immune to fire cannot walk through flames, obviously NOT a "one time thing"

Danaerys wasn't strategically walking around flames, dude lol

Agreed, but the show subtly alluded to her immunity to fire very early.

In Season 1, episode 1 before Dany was sold to Drogo, the scene makes it a point to show Dany entering a boiling hot water bath without flinching.

 
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House Targaryen

- Aemon Targaryen (aka “Maester Aemon”), the Oldest Man at Castle Black / the Night's Watch.... is at the Top of the Targaryen family tree. (as far as the tv show is concerned)

- Aerys Targaryen (aka “The Mad King”) was Aemon’s nephew. (Aemon’s younger brother’s son.)

- Rhaegar (deceased), Viserys (deceased) & Daenerys Targaryen (aka “The Mother of Dragons”) are the Mad King’s 3 children.

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House Lannister

- Tywin Lannister
(deceased) is at the Top of the Lannister tree. (as far as the tv show is concerned)

- Kevan Lannister (the Current “Hand of the King” in season 6) is Tywin’s younger brother.

- Cersei, Tyrion (the Dwarf) & Jaime Lannister (aka ‘the Kingslayer”) are Tywin’s 3 children.

- Joffrey (deceased), Marcella (deceased) & Tommen (the Current King) are Cersei & Jaime’s 3 children. (the result of Royal Incest)

- Lancel Lannister (who was ALSO sleeping with his cousin Cersei while Jaime was captured by the Starks…. is now one of the members of the High Sparrow’s Faith Militant Religious Zealot Army) is Kevan’s son.

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House Baratheon

- Robert Baratheon (Deceased. Former King in Season 1) is at the Top of the Baratheon tree. (as far as the tv show is concerned)

- Before Season 1 started, Rhaegar Targaryen (allegedly) kidnapped Lyanna Stark (Ned Stark’s sister) whom Robert was in love with... which started a war (called Robert’s Rebellion. Which took place 25 years before Season 1).

- During this Rebellion, Jaime Lannister killed the “Mad King” Aerys Targaryen, which helped Robert win the war & claim the Iron Throne via combat.

- So Robert actually became The King of Westeros by force… By conquering the Targaryens. (With the help of the Lannisters.)


- To repay the Lannister Family for their help in his Rebellion, Robert married Cersei.

- When Robert died in Season 1… the ‘rightful heir’ to the Iron Throne was in question.

- Robert believed that Prince Joffrey was his own son (with Cersei)… And he was heir to the Iron Throne.

- Stannis & Renly Baratheon are Robert’s 2 younger brothers. (Stannis is the middle child. Renly is the youngest.)

- Gendry (the Blacksmith) is the last living ‘true son’ of Robert Baratheon. But only a few people actually KNOW that he is King Robert’s son.

- In season 1 before he also died, Ned Stark told Stannis that Joffrey is really the son of Cersei & Jaime… so he has zero legal claim to the Iron Throne. So by Westeros Custom, he (Stannis) is the rightful heir.

- This is why Stannis believed he was up next, to be the King. :yes:

- But Renly wanted to skip ahead of Stannis & become king also. By force. Like his older brother did.


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