G20 Summit - Coming to A City Near YOU

this is definitely a Malcolm type issue. just listen to the speech I referenced when he talks about the Chinese revolution. the house negro / field negro explains the relationship of the masses to power: some identify with master because they eat whatever food he leaves. these are the ones who love being slaves i.e. the house negro. the field negro are the masses who know they are slaves, hate master, and fight back when they can. this is a money and globalization issue and these masters want to keep the whole world in slavery. so you are WRONG.

His extent of talking of the Chinese, French, Russian, and even the American revolution were that it was bloody. We are not arguing war on ground, they are advising on guerrilla warfare, which is the tactic of those without numbers or force... this has nothing to do with the argument we are making... let me make it simple

Since they are in the throws of 'Revolution', why adopt the same ideals as your captors? Where is the disconnect? Where is the revolution? Why are they not attacking those which caused the problem instead of the area which has nothing to do with the problem? Why every fucking year they promote the same area damage, yet they cause no damage to the sources of their anguish or basically the ones which they are fighting against?

Are the buildings causing this issue? the windows? The cop car? any vehicles? Are they attacking police which are restraining them? Are they attacking anything worth while other than simply being destructive?

Guerrilla warfare has a point, it is meant for harassing and detrimental strikes and quick evacuation... do you see this here? This is not warfare, this is mob mentality, no more different that the KKK, Skinheads, or hell PETA. There is no organization, they attack bullshit targets and feel themselves afterwards.



who cares what color skin a revolutionary has? what matters is what he stands for and what is in his heart. you sound like a silly idiot. skin color is just a genetic trait, nothing more.

I do, and history has as well. I'm not going to interfere with a revolution if I have no stake in it. This is mob mentality against an ideal and unorganized. This is not a revolution. I hate them... not the idiot protesters, but the ideal few manipulating many, but unless there is a real attack... this is bullshit actions and turned the cause to a bullshit one.

Fuck that suffering peacefully bullshit, but this here is mob mentality, there is no intelligence or rage in it, its opportunistic.

yes well you think brother Malcolm would agree with you that sitting back making fun of anti-G20 protestors because they lack black skin makes you better? he's call you a Tom to your face, straight up. the idiot above who complained about how his plans to go downtown (to shop or party probably) were messed up by the protesters - what do you think malcolm would say to him? LOL...

I have more respect for Timothy McVeigh than these motherfuckers. for they seen their enemy and attacked them directly. Malcolm was a direct attack type. hit for hit, blood for blood. My black skin doesn't make me better, we are equal across the boards, but I only go for what is mine, and those who are not need to do the same. The rest of my answer is in my sig.


Malcolm would curse and spit at the shopping comment

this is a revolutionary issue. money is just a control system. you keep saying its "not the same" but you can't explain why. do you understand how to make an argument? you realize that just saying something doesn't make it so - you need to back up your assertion with facts and logic - right?

the fact that the anti-globalization protesters are privileged by their white skin (you don't know their economic status) - well that just means that because they maybe made it into college (as debt slaves), that they more privileged than a black kid in the ghetto. okay. so? and? you're not refuting any of what they are saying about globalization and its enslavement of entire nations. you're just repeating that they have white skin and are not as disenfranchised as the poorest in our society. very weak argument.

the stakes are higher than EVER. the SAME EVIL EUROPEAN FORCES that revolutionaries have resisted for hundreds of years are now trying to destroy the very planet.

Because, you already lost with your stance. Money will and always be a part of society. Human nature in terms of greed will always horde finances as well as resources, history shows us this. Money and the pursuit of it enslaves you once greed hits your heart and mind. Until a system is developed and accepted on 'fair' trade, this argument will continue until extinction. At any time in history those with more sought to dominate those with less. Debt slavery has been around since the current use of money, that is not new.

You see, what is the stance of these revolutionaries which you are not currently with but support? What is the replacement strategy of which they are going to adopt... more of the same? These same fuckers when they get older will do the same thing as the baby boomers did, take the same stance as the baby boomers had, and their children will have their time in the sun... rinse repeat.

With these number of protests, years of protest, years of destruction, years of yelling, years of burning cars, years of so called anger... why haven't they made it past... anything? At this point they are only a budgetary concern. Do you think with this destruction that they made any headway to proving their point? After the cleanup and anger from it, do you believe they gained in numbers with this actions? Are they getting those around them involved?

You automatically have the idea that black people in the ghetto are unable to be educated, college graduates, and work to uplift their neighborhoods. Still trying to clean up the ills that the former hundreds of years of European thought has done to my people, and you want me to stand with the very same fucks who take the time to fall into mob mentality? No plan? No organization? No creed? No political stance? No power other than to break shit and yell pig and return to their lives? Oh wait... they are going to do the same thing if the G8 comes... brilliant strategy.

They are fighting against a realized ideal, and the only solution is the overthrow all governmental bodies as part of the summit to limit their power... how far are they on this? How far have they went to overthrowing their own governments to fit their ideals and ensure that these acts won't exist? The only revolutions which done this were the French and Russian, minor American and Indian, Chinese changed their hats.


your argument makes no sense. blacks are brainwashed and destroyed by the ghetto. these relatively more privileged young whites are fighting back in the only way they know how against the old white men who are destroying nations, the oceans, the forests, poisoning the air we breathe, polluting the water we breathe, putting nations in debt slavery, making us all slaves to corporations, and your argument is because these young whites who have the GUTS to get out and fight while you brainwashed black slaves make fun of them and sit back and follow the devil's orders, that because they don't have black skin they do not have credibility?

no, it makes no sense. I'll stand with those white skinned protesters against a silly little brainwashed uncle tom like you any day of the week. I wish us western blacks weren't so brainwashed and controlled by the system but we are. we worship devils and think getting their symbols of success (gucci, fancy champagne, bentleys, etc.) make us "powerful". LOL...you are the very definition of silly middle class slave to the system.

I'm treating this part as a rant... because I heard that speech before... from the hippies, who done the same thing as their predecessors done. In fact.. they did it better, they understood that protesting of the issue, albeit good in its respects, don't work unless you take out the current leadership... so they did, and as the old, fucked up the planet worse then their fathers. Do you truly believe these fuckers which you praise so gallantly are doing any better morally? Have you learned a damn thing from the mistakes of others? This microwave non reading society who votes based more of feelings than stances? No...

I make no assumptions of you, but you believe you actually know me from disagreeing with you... which is funny as hell. But you are right.. I will stand.. on their dead ass bodies with their anarchy. They have no plan dawg, they are simply primates fighting because they are upset and have no answers to resolve it. Any one can shout and throw a fucking newspaper kiosk through a window... but once the window is replaced, its the same shit.

You worship all of that materialistic shit... keep me out of it. If you are not building something, you are destroying something. They are destroying something and building nothing, there is no balance to their actions. What you mentioned are the European ideals of success, not mine... you would know that if you paid attention to my posts, because if you think that of black people and not the other, there is no us. If you take even a 5th of your anger to what is done to your people and try to create, you can do something... instead you are angrier at my stance before even understanding why I made it... but I forgot, their stance trumps your people stance is that correct?
 
No plan? No organization? No creed? No political stance?

uh....okay. you're misinformed. I'm not putting the anti-globalization leftist groups on a pedestal but to pretend they don't exist shows you aren't really paying attention.

Do you truly believe these fuckers which you praise so gallantly are doing any better morally? Have you learned a damn thing from the mistakes of others? This microwave non reading society who votes based more of feelings than stances? No...

generalizing doesn't work. there are people trying to figure out a a better way than the capitalist machine destroying the planet. they might not be on CNN so maybe you didn't notice....but some people have learned from the past. it has to be local and people have to stop worshiping materialism and consumption.
 
uh....okay. you're misinformed. I'm not putting the anti-globalization leftist groups on a pedestal but to pretend they don't exist shows you aren't really paying attention.

generalizing doesn't work. there are people trying to figure out a a better way than the capitalist machine destroying the planet. they might not be on CNN so maybe you didn't notice....but some people have learned from the past. it has to be local and people have to stop worshiping materialism and consumption.
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They exist... they have no plan past this.

Okay then.. so inform me. what are their plans to stop the powers that be? How are they going to replace debt slavery? How are they attempting to change the same system which they support? All you said is that I'm misinformed, yet you haven't produced their stance other than.... they are standing against globalization and debt slavery... they did this in the past... How are these rioters any different from their predecessors? Is destroying property working? Is it slowing down the progression? Are the members shaking in their boots by the protesters screaming at cops and destroying the property? Are they any closer to holding their fucking jockstraps? Have they tried to overturn a government which is standing with the G20?

They exist, but their plans are written on toilet paper, drawn in the sand like a pickup game.. they seek to destroy with no fucking idea as to how it works... the rebellion would go better if they have a solution to replace the corporate government in place, yet they do what they can... throwing bricks and sticks and cursing. The first year I watched, the second I was with them in NYC, but their plans were as shoddy as the suits which they are attacking.

I'm not even generalizing... except for the privilege part... but that deals with the pictures and actions in the videos, which strikingly looks like the same fucks protesting out of college during the olden days... shit don't change when you go around the same block... unless its OK CITY.

I agree, people have to stop being materialistic, they have to take the time to educate themselves or be educated by others, they need to stop the amoral behavior and learn constraint on different levels, they have to accept equality in the true sense, a simple way is free renewable energy, but they won't do it.

But hell, lets take a look at the materialism simply on this site... they emasculated men and emphasized our enchantment with the next latest gadget as some women are with fucking shoes and bicker about said devices. We treat education as a cash out rather than an enhancement. Don't get me started about the social issues we discuss to illogical arguments.

Its hard not to see those who are making the change, they stick out like a black man in a KKK rally, they make them seem abnormal when they are actually thinking clearly... the whole image thing given to us by the media. In fact, anyone which the media talks against gets a second and third look because of their manipulation of news. They are supported to the fullest... but this shit which you see is not revolution or warfare. I've seen warfare, this shit is not it.

I'm not against their cause, I'm actually for it. I hate illogical methods of attack and disorganization of it. Hell, I'm still waiting for them to declare marshal law so I would have a pass to get started... a war cry... a call for arms... an official manifesto and creed... a financial solution... anything viable except... unorganized attacks and mob mentality.. if I wanted to do that, I would've stayed Decep and then low life.

I also appreciate your change in language, discussions don't need cock fights and posturing. Brother
 

They exist... they have no plan past this.

Okay then.. so inform me. what are their plans to stop the powers that be?[/QUOTE]

activism. dismantle the corporate control of society.

How are they going to replace debt slavery?

there's a ton of leftist proposals. for instance, force the Central bank to loan at 0% to public interest projects instead of to banks. force the elite classes to pay higher taxes which are used to fund social spending - education, infrastructure, jobs programs.

How are they attempting to change the same system which they support?

how do leftists support this system? you're making no sense.

All you said is that I'm misinformed, yet you haven't produced their stance other than.... they are standing against globalization and debt slavery... they did this in the past... How are these rioters any different from their predecessors?

well there is an articulate left that has proposals. I mean, just read or listen to people who are opposing the system of globalization and its exploitation of people to enrich a few elites. there are a ton of thinkers out there - name a particular issue and there's some people working on it. food, energy, financial reform, etc. there's lots of ideas out there.

Is destroying property working? Is it slowing down the progression? Are the members shaking in their boots by the protesters screaming at cops and destroying the property? Are they any closer to holding their fucking jockstraps? Have they tried to overturn a government which is standing with the G20?

if most americans weren't sheep like you and would get out in the streets and riot the elites would definitely be intimidated. matter of fact that is the ONLY thing elites respect. unfortunately, most people here are SHEEP and just sit around sneering at the .0001% who do have guts. destroying property WORKS. that is why the French get 6 weeks of vacation and we get 2. because of your type of attitude...as for revolution, it's not needed. what is needed is a set of demands by the working class and a willingness to strike, riot, whatever the fuck is necessary to get it. pick up a history book man! read the history of the labor movement! this shit is elemental.

They exist, but their plans are written on toilet paper, drawn in the sand like a pickup game..

that is absurd. there are plenty of long detailed critiques of the system, proposals on how to improve it, etc. you're just maing shit up.

they seek to destroy with no fucking idea as to how it works... the rebellion would go better if they have a solution to replace the corporate government in place, yet they do what they can... throwing bricks and sticks and cursing. The first year I watched, the second I was with them in NYC, but their plans were as shoddy as the suits which they are attacking.

yes well there are plenty of demands being made you just ignore them.

I'm not even generalizing... except for the privilege part... but that deals with the pictures and actions in the videos, which strikingly looks like the same fucks protesting out of college during the olden days... shit don't change when you go around the same block... unless its OK CITY.

OK City is not effective protest. street protests is what is needed. outright terrorism is not going to be effective. people should have general strikes to, for instance, demand the bankers give their stolen money back.

I agree, people have to stop being materialistic, they have to take the time to educate themselves or be educated by others, they need to stop the amoral behavior and learn constraint on different levels, they have to accept equality in the true sense, a simple way is free renewable energy, but they won't do it.

But hell, lets take a look at the materialism simply on this site... they emasculated men and emphasized our enchantment with the next latest gadget as some women are with fucking shoes and bicker about said devices. We treat education as a cash out rather than an enhancement. Don't get me started about the social issues we discuss to illogical arguments.

Its hard not to see those who are making the change, they stick out like a black man in a KKK rally, they make them seem abnormal when they are actually thinking clearly... the whole image thing given to us by the media. In fact, anyone which the media talks against gets a second and third look because of their manipulation of news. They are supported to the fullest... but this shit which you see is not revolution or warfare. I've seen warfare, this shit is not it.

I'm not against their cause, I'm actually for it. I hate illogical methods of attack and disorganization of it. Hell, I'm still waiting for them to declare marshal law so I would have a pass to get started... a war cry... a call for arms... an official manifesto and creed... a financial solution... anything viable except... unorganized attacks and mob mentality.. if I wanted to do that, I would've stayed Decep and then low life.

I also appreciate your change in language, discussions don't need cock fights and posturing. Brother

in any case, my main point is the anti-globalization protesters are at least trying. that's better than most. It is a shitty system and we're very privileged here in the US. think about the victims of the system - the real victims - in poor nations. they have very little recourse but they fight back. we have lots of ways to do it but we don't...
 
activism. dismantle the corporate control of society.
Yup... everyone got this one down pat.


there's a ton of leftist proposals. for instance, force the Central bank to loan at 0% to public interest projects instead of to banks. force the elite classes to pay higher taxes which are used to fund social spending - education, infrastructure, jobs programs.

The first was attempted through UN proposal... didn't work out. greedy bitches. Second... they have only a portion of that completed.. but politicians will never fully choke off their financial base... yet.

how do leftists support this system? you're making no sense.

The same way all support the monetary debt slavery system... materialism. its a sin which both sides are effected with and can't shun. All love gadgets and affluence and willing to pay for it. All are hogs in this respect. They give the corporations, the non living citizens, their money and overall power over the systems without a fight.

count the materialistic shit that the protesters who are fighting against the corporate scheme have... that means devices and designer shit... why count that.. because that means you are supporting the very same people you are trying to help


well there is an articulate left that has proposals. I mean, just read or listen to people who are opposing the system of globalization and its exploitation of people to enrich a few elites. there are a ton of thinkers out there - name a particular issue and there's some people working on it. food, energy, financial reform, etc. there's lots of ideas out there.
agreed

if most americans weren't sheep like you and would get out in the streets and riot the elites would definitely be intimidated. matter of fact that is the ONLY thing elites respect. unfortunately, most people here are SHEEP and just sit around sneering at the .0001% who do have guts. destroying property WORKS. that is why the French get 6 weeks of vacation and we get 2. because of your type of attitude...as for revolution, it's not needed. what is needed is a set of demands by the working class and a willingness to strike, riot, whatever the fuck is necessary to get it. pick up a history book man! read the history of the labor movement! this shit is elemental.



that is absurd. there are plenty of long detailed critiques of the system, proposals on how to improve it, etc. you're just maing shit up.



yes well there are plenty of demands being made you just ignore them.

Please, you think what they are doing has a lasting affect, read a history book and tell me how well it worked out for the last grouping which tried... which are the baby boomers, and currently, their annual destruction fest... Not that bullshit heartstrings shit you are talking about... I'm really talking about... results, the sum of their actions... what have they changed with their destruction? It has already been advised to you with quotes from those in the summit not giving a shit about the protesters and their vile actions... what have they succeeded in accomplishing except guaranteed overtime for the cops which arrest them? facts which are not from Wiki, a consensus? an agreement? a changed timetable? an acknowledgment of a viable foe? a leading organization? hell, I would even accept an acknowledgment from the people of the area after they were finished destroying their home that they see their point.

the only thing which you will find for protest is past actions and the only Americanized terrorist action of their point being made. And that is the point of action. You can't harass a tank with a toothpick, and they have only been picking their teeth with them... since their area is under control and the violence is therefore controlled.

You said what I said was bullshit.. try something different and prove it wrong with proof this time.

they have not affect the outcome of one summit and change of one rule, they have no effect on anything. And that is the problem. You call it terrorism and yet see their actions as activism.. it is the same shit. You are trying to intimidate and promote fear in the fear mongers by burning cars and throwing bricks in windows miles away from any possible harm. They are so high in the building that they can't even hear a protest. Not the fact of being a sheep, just refuse to be a chicken with its head cut off, which are these attacks of nothing on nothing which serve nothing... actions should have meaning... this is forgotten until the next meeting to those who see it from the newspapers... their presence is not lasting, which is the problem.

Its not even about having guts at this moment [dick posturing again man?], its about having brains and actions which promote... I don't know... change.


OK City is not effective protest. street protests is what is needed. outright terrorism is not going to be effective. people should have general strikes to, for instance, demand the bankers give their stolen money back.

in any case, my main point is the anti-globalization protesters are at least trying. that's better than most. It is a shitty system and we're very privileged here in the US. think about the victims of the system - the real victims - in poor nations. they have very little recourse but they fight back. we have lots of ways to do it but we don't...

No, city protests are not effective... no they are not inspiring fear, more like an irritant of a mosquito. Which is the problem since their actions don't register and they could simply label them 'thugs' for their actions which is readily acceptable..

Everyone has proposals, but not one concurrent effort has been made. How am I making it up... I said they have no viable leg to stand on and no platform to stand behind... meaning they have no power... they could say power to the people, but attendance while big is not enough to promote anything other than a bitch ass police force in riot gear making arrest after they get their screaming and breaking stuff done...

Fuck protesting banks... everyone take their money out and watch the system fall. Everyone simply stop working for one day and watch it change. That is the change from action. If they have no money in the bank... they fail. if no one works, the area with no workers fail. what they have successfully done was give people the days off as they are wrecking menial shit.

For the moment... fuck the US and maintain globalized thought process, since not a damn thing is going to be changed in the US due to people simply don't give two shits about globalization and only look forward to their next big toy or clothes trend made by the indigenous people of X country. The problem with that is that they have a voice and actions, but they see the money as well. its minuscule to us, but more than life for them. Desperation is a motherfucker, and due to this, they are not hearing the arguments since they are also enjoying the meager profits of their selected papal labor. That's globalization and manipulation of what is real. its still monetary based system and those who are in need will fill that need and give up their rights for it. But no one is boycotting the corporate entities which enter these third world countries and exploiting them...

and for the record... I hate G20 and what they stand for, but I hate mindless violence and actions even more.
 
let me just say this

I personally own a business own Eastern ave. next to the police headquarters, they didn't tell anyone in the area that they where going to build that pig pen there... the federal, provincial, and municipal government set about setting up all kinds of laws and provision to allow the G20 to come to town, DON’T VOTE FOR THOSE FUCKERS AGAIN!!!!

BUT I swear to you all I will kick the first cracker that I see coming out of star bucks if there is any property damage to my business tomorrow morning, seriously !
 
let me just say this

I personally own a business own Eastern ave. next to the police headquarters, they didn't tell anyone in the area that they where going to build that pig pen there... the federal, provincial, and municipal government set about setting up all kinds of laws and provision to allow the G20 to come to town, DON’T VOTE FOR THOSE FUCKERS AGAIN!!!!

BUT I swear to you all I will kick the first cracker that I see coming out of star bucks if there is any property damage to my business tomorrow morning, seriously !

i dont blame u dog, i been camped out in sauga all weekend, aint no niggas even tryna sniff t-dot, but lemme catch one of these proesters slippin' and fuckin something up that i have stake in and it's a WAR.

i hate the police but i fucks with them fuckin these protestors up. crazy thing is, i work near the airport and im seeing tanks and pure military and shit, why didnt they bring that reinforcement out this weekend??
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Those crackers aren't fighting for non whites.

C/S......if they were then they would be doing this everyday, every minute, every hour. They must be naive to think that the racist/white supremacist suspects only meet when they officially announce it....
 
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