Prove it. Show me.
Last I heard Obama was sending them checks back to all those 'corporate donors' - back in 2008.
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Prove it. Show me.
Last I heard Obama was sending them checks back to all those 'corporate donors' - back in 2008.
That was the whole point. They funded his campaign so he would bail them out later. With taxpayer money no less
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You mean AFTER Bush had already started the bailout process first, huh?
Why not support another White Republican instead, if they KNEW ahead of time that they would need a bailout?
Why support the Black Democrat when you think your company is gonna need Federal assistance... if the Republicans are already giving you money?
That don't make no sense.
Revisionist History.
You mean AFTER Bush had already started the bailout process first, huh?
Why not support another White Republican instead, if they KNEW ahead of time that they would need a bailout?
Why support the Black Democrat when you think your company is gonna need Federal assistance... if the Republicans are already giving you money?
That don't make no sense.
Revisionist History.
Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and JP Morgan Chase funded Obama and McCain to cover their ass on both sides.
http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...t-obama-spent-684-million-to-get-elected.aspx
As Black people, we are just about to easiest group of people to propagandize. We'll believe some dude at the barber shop "dropping knowledge" but won't actually go research anything. If we do research, we only read things that back up how we already feel. Our world view is based 100% on emotion.
That's why when Mos Def went on Real Time with Bill Maher saying these same old things with no proof, they bludgeoned him to death with facts and he had to tap outaccusing the show of being a trap.
Go research the government, how it works, and how it was constructed over the last 7 years.
So you want someone to give you factual research statistics to argue against a 'rumor' you heard?!?!
Well it didn't help that the guy Mos was trying to debate with was one of the best at debating.
Seems you completely ignored the 2nd paragraph.
The 2008 election
In 2008, President Obama received more than $2.5 million in campaign finance support from EMPLOYEES at Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, and Citigroup.
Accepting 'small donations' from INDIVIDUALS is a whole different story than accepting large (dark-money) payoffs from 'corporate entities'.
Stop trying to rewrite history.
It's not a 'rumor'.
Every news outlet around the globe covered the topic of 'campaign financing' extensively during the 2008 election, when a black man was running for POTUS.
Where were you at during all the debates & coverage for an entire year?
I saw multiple reports on the news of the Obama camp returning 'corporate checks' that were donated to his campaign.
It's not a 'rumor'.
Every news outlet around the globe covered the topic of 'campaign financing' extensively during the 2008 election, when a black man was running for POTUS.
Where were you at during all the debates & coverage for an entire year?
I saw multiple reports on the news of the Obama camp returning 'corporate checks' that were donated to his campaign.
You still presented it as what you 'heard'... then asked for factuals?!?! Quote links and shit to your contention THEN ask for factual rebuttals... Thats some lazy shit bruh to ask somebody else to do what you aren't doing is all I'm saying. Not debating it but post that shit...
Seems you completely ignored the 2nd paragraph.
The 2008 election
In 2008, President Obama received more than $2.5 million in campaign finance support from EMPLOYEES at Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, and Citigroup.
Accepting 'small donations' from INDIVIDUALS is a whole different story than accepting large (dark-money) payoffs from 'corporate entities'.
Stop trying to rewrite history.
Do you really think that money from Chase came from all the tellers holding staff fundraisers? Did the ones who funded McCain hold a bake sale? If so why only the banks? Why didn't the checkers at Safeway or the baristas at Starbucks do the same?
Talk about stuff that makes no sense.
It's more logical that these bank employees funneled money from their bosses to presidential hopefuls to keep their collective asses out of jail
Bullshit.
Nobody needed to hold 'a bake sale'... or organize a 'staff fundraiser'. (maybe some did, but the MAJORITY of supporters did not)
The problem you have is that you think that everyone who supported him..... 'had to get organized first'.... just to make a donation.
Nah son, people just clicked on his website and used their own credit cards.... or wrote 'personal checks' and mailed them in... whenever they wanted to.
i.e. At the Mall. In the barbershop. At work. While watching Football on Sunday...
Or especially during/or right after a 'televised debate'.
Whenever.
You pulling shit out of your ass with that.... 'bank employees funnel money from their bosses'.
You mean the very same bosses who shit on them everyday??? And steal their retirement funds???
That's laughable.
You still presented it as what you 'heard'... then asked for factuals?!?! Quote links and shit to your contention THEN ask for factual rebuttals... Thats some lazy shit bruh to ask somebody else to do what you aren't doing is all I'm saying. Not debating it but post that shit...
Here you go, slappy.
Be sure to pay attention to the parts highlighted in RED.
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This was just the beginning…
July 31, 2007
Obama has received more than $16 million in donations of $200 or less (29 percent of his total), while Clinton has received only $4 million in similar-size donations (10 percent of her total). Even John Edwards has beaten her with $5 million in small donations (24 percent of this total).
http://www.cnet.com/news/campaign-2008-small-internet-donations-add-up/
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And the final count was…
April 11, 2011
Barack Obama's candidacy wasn't just the beginning of the end of public financing. His meteoric fundraising spree rendered the system instantly extinct. Opting out of public financing, despite earlier pledges to the contrary, Obama raised $745 million entirely in private contributions.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...-million-2008-campaign-ended-public-financing
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$745 million in..... private donations.
Not large corporate checks.
Source of Funds:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?id=n00009638
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Bullshit.
Nobody needed to hold 'a bake sale'... or organize a 'staff fundraiser'. (maybe some did, but the MAJORITY of supporters did not)
The problem you have is that you think that everyone who supported him..... 'had to get organized first'.... just to make a donation.
Nah son, people just clicked on his website and used their own credit cards.... or wrote 'personal checks' and mailed them in... whenever they wanted to.
i.e. At the Mall. In the barbershop. At work. While watching Football on Sunday...
Or especially during/or right after a 'televised debate'.
Whenever.
You pulling shit out of your ass with that.... 'bank employees funnel money from their bosses'.
You mean the very same bosses who shit on them everyday??? And steal their retirement funds???
That's laughable.
If Obama's core donations really came from small independent donors like you claim then logically America's biggest employers would also be Obama's biggest donors. After all, if every Wal-Mart employee had given Obama $2 each they would have big his biggest contributors by far.
Instead not one of America's largest employers made his top donor list. It's all banks, universities and tech corporations.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/22/ten-largest-employers/2680249/
If you (personally) write a check from your own bank account & donate money to your local fire department at a 'fundraising event'..... that is NOT the same thing as 'your employer' giving the Fire Chief a 'company check' to donate money to the same fundraising event.
Not even close.
So if you gave the fire department $10 grand.... that DOES NOT mean that 'your employer' gets credit for it.
That could have been your 'inheritance' money from a relative who passed away.
Or maybe you 'got hot' at the blackjack table in Las Vegas.
Or maybe you cashed out some old stocks to do it.
Or whatever.
So how do you figure that your 'employer / or boss' gets credit for that?
If you (personally) write a check from your own bank account & donate money to your local fire department at a 'fundraising event'..... that is NOT the same thing as 'your employer' giving the Fire Chief a 'company check' to donate money to the same fundraising event.
Not even close.
So if you gave the fire department $10 grand.... that DOES NOT mean that 'your employer' gets credit for it.
That could have been your 'inheritance' money from a relative who passed away.
Or maybe you 'got hot' at the blackjack table in Las Vegas.
Or maybe you cashed out some old stocks to do it.
Or whatever.
So how do you figure that your 'employer / or boss' gets credit for that?
Fair enough. Why aren't the EMPLOYEES of America's top ten employers listed as Obama's top donors then? Why is it only the EMPLOYEES of the banks? These banks that just so happened to get bailed out almost immediately after his election?
You do know that TARP/Emergency Economic Stabilization Act was already in effect before Obama was in office?
You asking the wrong person.
I don't work for 'election campaigns'. And I don't know all the rules about 'the legalities' of how/why they list donors the way they do.
But honestly, it seems like they only listed the folks who 'got organized' and OFFICIALLY gave money in ONE BIG PILE, all at once. (Or at least kept track of the 'final total' all their individual supporters contributed)
This table (link below) lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2008 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers.
Source of Funds:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
This information was at least 93% verified. (and they calculated at least $680+ million in 'individual' donations)
So it seems to me that you are asking a question that has already been answered.
Obama got well over $700+ million from 'individuals' around the country / and the world.
If folks chose not to 'get organized' and 'officially announce' their donations.... That's on them.
And that might explain why they don't get listed as 'employees of [x] company', at the end of the day.
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Keep moving the goal post.
I agree! Whitey is living his worse nightmare, a black man is doing their job better than they ever could and the citizens black and white can't help but notice.Imagine how strong the economy would be today if all those Republican Congressmen & Senators did not try to block / filibuster every single bill, or jobs program over the last 7 years.
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How? Because you went from TARP etc..being passed under Obama to...oh but no banker went to jail. Those are two different arguments and now you are creating a third arguement. That's what happens when you can't win the first/original argument.
You keep moving the goal post until you somehow can win the argument.
Timothy Geithner-----
The reason there have been no efforts made to criminally investigate is obvious. Former banking regulator and current securities Professor Bill Black told Bill Moyers in 2009 that "Timothy Geithner, the Secretary of the Treasury, and others in the administration, with the banks, are engaged in a cover up to keep us from knowing what went wrong."
In the documentary "Inside Job," when asked why there have been no such investigations, economist Nouriel Roubini replied: "Because then you'd find the culprits." Underlying all of that is what the Senate's second-highest ranking Democrat, Dick Durbin, admitted in 2009: The banks "frankly own the place."
Eric Holder....
“Now, sometimes a company’s conduct may be wrong, may be hard to defend, but not necessarily be violative of the criminal law,” Holder said. “Or sometimes there may be an appearance of criminal wrongdoing that cannot be supported by evidence that would be admitted in a court of law.”
In an appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2013, Holder made comments he later sought to downplay that seemed to suggest he did think some banks were too big to jail.
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That doesn't even make sense. You are still reaching and hoping for a win. Your point was that President Obama campaign was funded by big corporations and that "These banks that just so happened to get bailed out almost immediately after his election?"
Yet the problem with that argument (as I've already stated and what you keep trying to move away from) is that these bailouts were already passed by the former administration before Obama was elected.
Not bad. But i don't believe Obama had anything directly to do with all of it. But believe what you want to make yourselves feel better.
No that is actual the opposite of logical. That is some shit you just made the fuck up in fact.
aye nigga don't quote me
I'm black and have seen my personal finances and business blossom under his leadership so... I keep hearing people bitch about shit, please let me know what he's not done that you need him to do so you can be successful. You are black right?
Enlighten the board Bruh...
You know what, after doing some research he has done somethings for blacks, but with all the cop killings and all the fat cats being bailed out as their companies are drowning it just seemed that he hasn't done enough. I know he's a puppet and he tries to help us while tap dancing for whites, but he could do more and we also could do more far as boycotting companies that are hurting our communities, trying to propose bills, and come to the table with money so we can push them proposed bills. It's been hard for me to take him serious after they had this nigga back track so many times after something fucked would happen to black people. But for us to succeed he can wipe out the war on drugs, change these draconian laws, extremely reform police academies all over the country, ear mark financial aid for black businesses in America, change the court's jury selection system, and I could go on for days. You get my point tho. Glad to see your business thriving bruh.
Unfortunately, America is not just a country for black people, and 8 years is not enough time to change and deal with all the ills that we face. The biggest issue with us is, its never enough. NO matter what he does, we will always find something to bitch and complain about. Compare what he's done for us against the previous President, and then lets talk. When he was elected, he wasn't supposed to be the president that focused 100 percent of his efforts on what the black person needs. He has an ENTIRE country to run, meaning the needs of Latinos, Asians, Black and Whites...
We need to learn to take advantage of what has been accomplished for us, continue to work in concert to address the areas that still need to be dealt with, and not always complain about what hasn't been accomplished because quite a bit has been...
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