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0utsyder said:
Pack hunting right? I acknowledge their ability to hunt in packs but compare to other animals their bodies are not built for 1on1
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African lions hunt in prides but guess what? Hunting solo, their chances of survival in the wild is much lower. Plenty of lions have starved to death living solo and there is the added risk of being caught hunting in a lion pride's territory.

Here's a lone wolf taking down a 700 lb buffalo after the buffalo herd evaded his pack during a hunt. Wolves are quite capable.

 
Work smarter not harder.

Dude in here is really saying that one of the most successful predators on the planet (wolves / wild dogs) ain't shit cause they hunt in packs. Coolness over success.

Hunting in a pack means cubs / puppies are protected while other hunt and bring the protector back food. If a pack member is hurt more of a chance of them surviving cause the pack helps them. On and on and on.
 
Darrkman said:
Work smarter not harder.

Dude in here is really saying that one of the most successful predators on the planet (wolves / wild dogs) ain't shit cause they hunt in packs. Coolness over success.

Hunting in a pack means cubs / puppies are protected while other hunt and bring the protector back food. If a pack member is hurt more of a chance of them surviving cause the pack helps them. On and on and on.
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Yep, the fist deals a more powerful blow than a finger. In the wild, that's innate to the the pack.
 
How they're built versus how they hunt are two different things. I will admit that my initial post did not convey that sentiment, but I would think as the conversation went on that is what I was trying to convey but apparently not.
 
ghoststrike said:
Some Asian countries are strange like that.



In the wild, if it wasn't for bears feeding on scraps and leftovers of prey killed by wolves, grizzly bears wouldn't pack on enough extra weight for hibernation during the winter. Bears are nowhere near as successful as wolves when it comes to hunting. Not even close.

The African Wild Dog, the Wolf's much smaller cousin, has a 90% successful kill rate when hunting for prey. That is much higher than lions, hyenas, leopards, cheetahs, etc. so to say that wild canids are "horrible predators" is far from the truth in the wild.



An Asian zoo that uses captive broken spirit animals as canon fodder for entertainment is not the gage of what occurs in the wild. On a wildlife show I saw a pair of wolves outsmart 3 grizzlies to get them off of a carcass they wanted and a pack of 6 larger wolves (a REAL pack, not 4 random wolves tossed in a cage, handfed from birth FOH lol ) push 4 grizzlies off of a carcass, displaying better teamwork.

Speaking of captivity, a female lion killed a male lion who fathered her cubs and the male didn't put up much of a fight. Broken spirit from that caged lifestyle. That pretty much never happens in the wild.
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Was u the “accept that bite” nigga ??
 
Wait

are people in here saying wolfs can take out elephant or even a hippopotamus in the water?

We just saw that fucking Canine get shredded by some yogi bears

foh @ pack hunting
 
Darrkman said:
Thats cause they're persistence predators. They run their prey into the ground.

Dudes in here are arguing coolness over actual success.
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ghoststrike said:
Precisely

Apple meet orange

Dude is arguing his perceived "cool factor" as a metric for predation success.
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How about this. Which do you think you have a better chance at survival/fighting off against a wolf or a mountain lion? Also why do you think that? Not arguing which animal is cooler arguing which animal has more tools when it comes to hunting.
 
0utsyder said:
How about this. Which do you think you have a better chance at survival/fighting off against a wolf or a mountain lion? Also why do you think that? Not arguing which animal is cooler arguing which animal has more tools when it comes to hunting.
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Ok, here's a real world example. A mountain lion is tracking a herd of elk but the herd escapes IF they catch up wind of it before entering the stealth strike range as the mountain lion creeps in closer. if it's shot is missed, the hunt is over.

That same herd entering a wolf pack's territory has to deal with a gauntlet of cut off points, decoys splitting up the herd, and being run down, meaning, chased until the prey falls from exhaustion. A wolf pack can chase its prey at a speed of 35-40 miles for miles before making the final kill or kills if they bring down another from the same herd.
 
ghoststrike said:
Ok, here's a real world example. A mountain lion is tracking a herd of elk but the herd escapes IF they catch up wind of it before entering the stealth strike range as the mountain lion creeps in closer. if it's shot is missed, the hunt is over.

That same herd entering a wolf pack's territory has to deal with a gauntlet of cut off points, decoys splitting up the herd, and being run down, meaning, chased until the prey falls from exhaustion. A wolf pack can chase its prey at a speed of 35-40 miles for miles before making the final kill or kills if they bring down another from the same herd.
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Why do u keep talking about packs?

a lone wolf up against a bigger predator is a different story.

we just seen a pack get Annihilated by some Smokey the bears
 
ghoststrike said:
He said canines are "horrible predators". I'm just illustrating the folly of that statement in the real wild world.
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.... Dog, I walked back the statement of "horrible predators" and explained what I meant! You hang on this ONE statement (to which I conceded) quoted me and then never answered the ?uestion I asked. Right now I am trying to figure out why you're staying on this point that I already conceded.

Plus I never said ANYTHING bad about wolf packs, so REALLY trying to figure out why everyone keeps going to this ONE point. While I keep bringing up the differences between a SINGLE wolf and a SINGLE big cat.
 
0utsyder said:
How about this. Which do you think you have a better chance at survival/fighting off against a wolf or a mountain lion? Also why do you think that? Not arguing which animal is cooler arguing which animal has more tools when it comes to hunting.
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Tools when it comes to hunting.....wolves and wild dogs.

Smaller prey can be caught by individual wolves. Larger prey gets actual tactics used against them. They get split up, sorted for strong vs weak and depending on the size of the pack more than one gets killed.

 
Darrkman said:
You do know that African wild dogs have the highest hunting success rate.
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Darrkman said:
Thats cause they're persistence predators. They run their prey into the ground.

Dudes in here are arguing coolness over actual success.
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The only "animal" that can run in comparison to African wild dogs are Nigerian runners. Everyone else gets smoked.

African wild dogs are ridiculous in their stamina. They just do not give up. It's like running from the Energizer Bunny
 
knightmelodic said:
What about 'em? I'm a cat person. Dogs are okay. Wolves are cool; very smart. And essential to the ecosystem.

This video? Which I didn't watch, I guess the wolf got caught slippin'. Ain't much to be said about bears. They're huge and they will fuck you up. Stay away from them.
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Agreed with everything in this post.

I don’t like canines either
 
0utsyder said:
.... ya'll keep going back to packs, so obviously this reading shyt just ain't gonna happen.
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Nah. You keep trying to ignore the biggest part of why these animals hunt the way they do. You want to compare ambush predators, and the tools they have to be successful at that, to persistence predators who use pack hunting as part of the overall process.
 
Keep in mind fellas - that was 4 BEARS.

It's difficult, damn titanic feet if a wolf pack can take down one - but FOUR? :smh:

Hell I thought Bears were mostly solitary
 

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