For the flat Earth people!

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Aye man, don't EVER step to me on this shit again! I'm out this bitch!

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YouTubes and gifs and caps lock don't make you no less retarded homie.

And you are super retarded.
 

Nope, don't give me that shit! I just disproved your ball earth model. Read it and weep.

You can't refute it. It's irrefutable.

The ONLY way to determine the distance to horizon is to MEASURE IT, because you can't determine the distance between two points without conforming the points to a graphic measurement. This is basic geometry.

The reason you can calculate the distance on ball earth is because you have a height, circumference and a radius. With distance to the horizon on a flat plane you only have 2 POINTS.

Once you have two sets of measurements, for instance:

1) Distance from 6 feet high to the vanishing point.
2) Distance from 12 feet high to the vanishing point.

You can create a formula based off parametric estimating.

When I have that real world physical data, I can gladly give you a formula.

But none of that matters anyway, because the globe has been debunked.

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Nope, don't give me that shit! I just disproved your ball earth model. Read it and weep.

You can't refute it. It's irrefutable.

The ONLY way to determine the distance to horizon is to MEASURE IT, because you can't determine the distance between two points without conforming the points to a graphic measurement. This is basic geometry.

The reason you can calculate the distance on ball earth is because you have a height, circumference and a radius. With distance to the horizon on a flat plane you only have 2 POINTS.

Once you have two sets of measurements, for instance:

1) Distance from 6 feet high to the vanishing point.
2) Distance from 12 feet high to the vanishing point.

You can create a formula based off parametric estimating.

When I have that real world physical data, I can gladly give you a formula.

But none of that matters anyway, because the globe has been debunked.

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I can and will refute your post - but 1 argument at a time...
so keep your word (you promised 3x) and post the math for the altitude needed to see LA from NYC on a flat earth (with telescope)
assume a distance of 2300 miles between NYC and LA as the crow flies
 
Dude, all of your math has been debunked. You didn't provide the math that was asked for.

Please explain why you never see a full Venus or Mercury picture from Earth based telescopes? They are always less than full, also explain the transit of Venus.

By your dumb ass model, the planet Venus and mercury are closer than the sun. Either that or they change from crescent shaped to waxing and waning, never a full circle.

Since the Sun is 35 miles across in the flat earth model, the planet Venus is less than 1 mile across. The Soviet Union says they landed there and took pictures. That would mean the same people who helped Trump win and shit on the US government are also working with the US to keep this bullshit going.

How fucking dumb does that sound?
 
I can and will refute your post - but 1 argument at a time...
so keep your word (you promised 3x) and post the math for the altitude needed to see LA from NYC on a flat earth (with telescope)

I just said:
The ONLY way to determine the distance to horizon is to MEASURE IT, because you can't determine the distance between two points without conforming the points to a graphic measurement.

If you used google earth to get the distance from LA to NYC, that is a measurement between two points. I STILL need the data to make a parametric estimate to determine height. Then you simply scale.

AND then I would need to know the power of the telescope.

BUT I have given you a solid foundation upon which to build a formula.

You STILL would deal with atmospheric blocking because you can't even see a mile away in LA with the smog. So I don't see how in the hell you're going to see anything from NYC, plus terrain blockage. You can't do this from the Empire State building. That's ludicrous. It would have to be way higher just based off common sense.

So I am admitting that a while formula is possible, I don't have the data right now to formulate the height.

Consider that a battle won for yourself.

However, I just won the war. You can't refute what I posted. YOU CAN'T.

And y'all are stalling, it ain't gone work. Not this time.

It's done. Let it go. Time to move on.

It's flat.
 
Dude, all of your math has been debunked. You didn't provide the math that was asked for.

Please explain why you never see a full Venus or Mercury picture from Earth based telescopes? They are always less than full, also explain the transit of Venus.

By your dumb ass model, the planet Venus and mercury are closer than the sun. Either that or they change from crescent shaped to waxing and waning, never a full circle.

Since the Sun is 35 miles across in the flat earth model, the planet Venus is less than 1 mile across. The Soviet Union says they landed there and took pictures. That would mean the same people who helped Trump win and shit on the US government are also working with the US to keep this bullshit going.

How fucking dumb does that sound?

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You changing the subject too. You TOO read my post above. It's over.

No more questions.

I'm done. Next chapter.
 
I just said:


If you used google earth to get the distance from LA to NYC, that is a measurement between two points. I STILL need the data to make a parametric estimate to determine height. Then you simply scale.

AND then I would need to know the power of the telescope.

BUT I have given you a solid foundation upon which to build a formula.

You STILL would deal with atmospheric blocking because you can't even see a mile away in LA with the smog. So I don't see how in the hell you're going to see anything from NYC, plus terrain blockage. You can't do this from the Empire State building. That's ludicrous. It would have to be way higher just based off common sense.

So I am admitting that a while formula is possible, I don't have the data right now to formulate the height.

Consider that a battle won for yourself.

However, I just won the war. You can't refute what I posted. YOU CAN'T.

And y'all are stalling, it ain't gone work. Not this time.

It's done. Let it go. Time to move on.

It's flat.
all that writing and you still haven't posted a formula - there are many ways for you do a formula and include the unknown as variables
remember on flat earth the horizon would be an illusion - and a telescope pushes the vanishing point exponentially ...
so to make it easy lets say the telescope is 300x
 
Arguing with a flatard is like arguing with a child who believes in Santa Claus and keeps pointing at a mall Santa. The mall Santa could tell him he's a regular guy and the child would say "he's just saying that cause he doesn't want everyone to know the truth".

Quite sad in a way. I hope he finds the help he needs.
 
all that writing and you still haven't posted a formula - there are many ways for you do a formula and include the unknown as variables
remember on flat earth the horizon would be an illusion - and a telescope pushes the vanishing point exponentially ...
so to make it easy lets say the telescope is 300x

Can you explain what you mean when you say the horizon is an illusion on a flat plane? I think we're on the same page but I just want to be clear.

The only known is the height. The unknown is the distance to the horizon. The height doesn't matter because the horizon is always at eye level. What matters is the distance between 2 points-the point of origin and the vanishing point.

With no measurement between 2 points, what formula can you devise to determine the distance? This is co-ordinate geometry. In order to determine the distance you must have the coordinates. Otherwise there is no formula.
 
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Can you explain what you mean when you say the horizon is an illusion on a flat plane? I think we're on the same page but I just want to be clear.

The only known is the height. The unknown is the distance to the horizon. The height doesn't matter because the horizon is always at eye level. What matters is the distance between 2 points-the point of origin and the vanishing point.

With no measurement between 2 points, what formula can you devise to determine the distance? This is co-ordinate geometry. In order to determine the distance you must have the coordinates. Otherwise there is no formula.
on a globe - the curvature of the earth creates a horizon - its physical -so there is no line of sight, no way to broadcast a laser or microwave or a uhf or vhf band at 1' over sea level for over 3 miles without a repeater....

But on a flat earth there is no curvature of earth, no physical barrier so the vanishing point / horizon would be an optical illusion that gets extended further with greater height and would also get even more extended using a telescope.
So there is no horizon for you to measure because there is no physical barrier and no optical barrier because you are using a telescope.
theoretically you should be able to see europe from nyc at sea level with a powerful enough telescope on a flat earth... but you said a greater height should definitely allow it or NYC to LA... so show your math
What is the height needed to view 2300 miles via a 300x telescope, how would you do it?
 
on a globe - the curvature of the earth creates a horizon - its physical -so there is no line of sight, no way to broadcast a laser or microwave or a uhf or vhf band at 1' over sea level for over 3 miles without a repeater....

But on a flat earth there is no curvature of earth, no physical barrier so the vanishing point / horizon would be an optical illusion that gets extended further with greater height and would also get even more extended using a telescope.
So there is no horizon for you to measure because there is no physical barrier and no optical barrier because you are using a telescope.
theoretically you should be able to see europe from nyc at sea level with a powerful enough telescope on a flat earth... but you said a greater height should definitely allow it or NYC to LA... so show your math
What is the height needed to view 2300 miles via a 300x telescope, how would you do it?

There is a vanishing point from the perspective of the human eye. That's measurable. I know it's an illusion but this is a measurement similar to a fletcher-munson curve where distance is determined by visual perception, like loudness perception.

Theoretically you should be able to see europe from nyc at sea level yes (with a telescope), but you won't because the atmosphere will block it near the horizon (see train image). However, height extends the horizon giving you more coverage. This is not hard to understand. Being on the ground at Disneyland is different from being up high in the Ferris Wheel.

What is the height needed to view 2300 miles via a 300x telescope, how would you do it?

A parametric assessment based off of human perception measurements. Once you know the height to vanishing point, you can then calculate the reach of the telescope.


 
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There is a vanishing point from the perspective of the human eye. That's measurable. I know it's an illusion but this is a measurement similar to a fletcher-munson curve where distance is determined by visual perception, like loudness perception.

Theoretically you should be able to see europe from nyc at sea level yes (with a telescope), but you won't because the atmosphere will block it near the horizon (see train image). However, height extends the horizon giving you more coverage. This is not hard to understand. Being on the ground at Disneyland is different from being up high in the Ferris Wheel.



A parametric assessment based off of human perception measurements. Once you know the height to vanishing point, you can then calculate the reach of the telescope.
uh huh - but a telescope would expand that point exponentially and you said height will too - so-
what is the height needed to view 2300 miles via a 300x telescope? show the math
 
uh huh - but a telescope would expand that point exponentially and you said height will too - so-
what is the height needed to view 2300 miles via a 300x telescope? show the math

You realize you've asked the same question 3 times and I've answered you right?

It's over bruh. Accept it.

You don't live on a ball.

I don't even care to know if you can see NYC to LA through a telescope because it doesn't PROVE anything at this point. It's irrelevant to the whole point of this thread, which is whether the earth is flat or not. And I proved it's flat.

See ya, no more questions.

PEACE

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You realize you've asked the same question 3 times and I've answered you right?

It's over bruh. Accept it.

You don't live on a ball.

I don't even care to know if you can see NYC to LA through a telescope because it doesn't PROVE anything at this point. It's irrelevant to the whole point of this thread, which is whether the earth is flat or not. And I proved it's flat.

See ya, no more questions.

PEACE

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hey - I'm just asking you to prove your argument

what happened? 3x in this thread you said that you can show me the math

now for the last few posts you aren't doing what you said you would... and even worse you are saying and using things that don't really jive with flat earth theory as an excuse for why you can't show me the math.

nothing is moot - how can the earth be flat if you have no math to explain or debunk line of sight technologies?
 
hey - I'm just asking you to prove your argument

what happened? 3x in this thread you said that you can show me the math

now for the last few posts you aren't doing what you said you would... and even worse you are saying and using things that don't really jive with flat earth theory as an excuse for why you can't show me the math.

nothing is moot - how can the earth be flat if you have no math to explain or debunk line of sight technologies?

Because while you were busy thinking we were playing checkers, it turns out we were really playing chess.

http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?threads/for-the-flat-earth-people.929741/page-9#post-17374043

I provided all types of math in this post, describing and bolding each element point-by-point since you asked me to break things down to you like a 6yr old. I used an EARTH CURVATURE CALCULATOR to prove that the earth was not a ball, by finding a FLAW in the model.

You all scattered like roaches when I turned that light on. And STILL won't acknowledge it.

You have no credibility at this point.

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Because while you were busy thinking we were playing checkers, it turns out we were really playing chess.

http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?threads/for-the-flat-earth-people.929741/page-9#post-17374043

I provided all types of math in this post, describing and bolding each element point-by-point since you asked me to break things down to you like a 6yr old. I used an EARTH CURVATURE CALCULATOR to prove that the earth was not a ball, by finding a FLAW in the model.

You all scattered like roaches when I turned that light on. And STILL won't acknowledge it.

You have no credibility at this point.

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like I said before: 1 argument at a time

you said that you would show me the math for altitude needed to view LA from NYC using a telescope

on a flat earth the horizon is an optical illusion so show the math - we can deal with the other post after we finish this

if you can not present an altitude that one can view LA from NYC via telescope - then just admit you were wrong to say you could prove it with math
 
like I said before: 1 argument at a time

you said that you would show me the math for altitude needed to view LA from NYC using a telescope

on a flat earth the horizon is an optical illusion so show the math - we can deal with the other post after we finish this

if you can not present an altitude that one can view LA from NYC via telescope - then just admit you were wrong to say you could prove it with math

If you know what a parametric estimate is, then I've proven it can be proven with math.

Case closed.
 
If you know what a parametric estimate is, then I've proven it can be proven with math.

Case closed.
no you haven't - I could say an equation proves I can make a 90 degree turns in a BMW without arc while doing 60mph, doesn't mean its possible or even likely without the numbers
thats not an equation nor a formula- you said you would show me the math
so show me the math - its the only way I can try to replicate what you argued earlier

or just admit you can't do it
 
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no you haven't - I could say an equation proves I can make a 90 degree turns in a BMW without arc while doing 60mph, doesn't mean its possible or even likely without the numbers
thats not an equation nor a formula- you said you would show me the math
so show me the math - its the only way I can try to replicate what you argued earlier

or just admit you can't do it

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What's the distance between the EQUATOR and the NORTH POLE?

If the distance between each degree latitude is about 69.2 miles and there are 90 degrees between the equator and the north pole, wouldn't that make it 6228 miles from the equator to the north pole?

Why did I ask this question?

Well consider this.

It is July 1.

When it is 6 PM in Munich Germany it is 12 PM in Orlando and 7 AM in Hawaii.
It will be daylight in each of these places.

The sun will be illuminating the earth surface across 7600 miles.

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Hawaii to Germany is 7600 miles.
That's more than 1350 miles farther than the distance between the Equator and the North Pole. 7600- 6228

So based on this information. On a Flat Earth, the sun should always be visible at the North Pole. It should always be light at the North Pole.

Why? Because the distance from the Equator to the North Pole is less than the distance between Hawaii and Germany.

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Distance To Tokyo From Boston is:
6707 miles / 10793.87 km / 5828.22 nautical miles


The sun will be illuminating the earth surface across 7600 miles between Hawaii and Germany.

So you should expect that it should be daylight in Tokyo and Boston at the same time on a flat earth.
 
What's the distance between the EQUATOR and the NORTH POLE?

If the distance between each degree latitude is about 69.2 miles and there are 90 degrees between the equator and the north pole, wouldn't that make it 6228 miles from the equator to the north pole?

Why did I ask this question?

Well consider this.

It is July 1.

When it is 6 PM in Munich Germany it is 12 PM in Orlando and 7 AM in Hawaii.
It will be daylight in each of these places.

The sun will be illuminating the earth surface across 7600 miles.

Road


Hawaii to Germany is 7600 miles.
That's more than 1350 miles farther than the distance between the Equator and the North Pole. 7600- 6228

So based on this information. On a Flat Earth, the sun should always be visible at the North Pole. It should always be light at the North Pole.

Why? Because the distance from the Equator to the North Pole is less than the distance between Hawaii and Germany.

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Distance To Tokyo From Boston is:
6707 miles / 10793.87 km / 5828.22 nautical miles


The sun will be illuminating the earth surface across 7600 miles between Hawaii and Germany.

So you should expect that it should be daylight in Tokyo and Boston at the same time on a flat earth.

uhh...yeah...yep....



Check this video out. I'm not saying it's 100% accurate but it gives clue to how the sun and moon work. The path of both change throughout the year.

 
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Check this video out. I'm not saying it's 100% accurate but it gives clue to how the sun and moon work. The path of both change throughout the year.



Antarctica has six months of darkness. How is this even possible of a flat earth?

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Antarctica (including the South Pole) is well within the 7600 miles from the equator. Within any 24 hr rotation of the sun Antarctica would be in range of Sunlight.

How do you explain 180 days of no Sun?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a20030/sun-set-antarctica-until-autumn/

By Jay Bennett

Mar 21, 2016

On Sunday March 20, the sun set in Antarctica, and it will not rise again until September. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) operates the South Pole Atmospheric Baseline Observatory throughout the year, and the researchers posted there will go without sunlight for the next six months.
 
You know
I think everyone is wrong:hmm:
After hours of research and
a lot of alcohol
I've come up with a uuuge..tremendous
Discovery. .:eek2:

The Earth is square
This will revolutionize Endusttree
As we know it..
And I have proof o_O
 
This is like arguing with a Trump supporter. We're truly in the age of anti-intellectualism. They think if they yell loud enough and call people enough names they're right. Dumb people always think they have secret knowledge to make themselves feel more intelligent. It's not secret, it's wrong. Anyone that follows you deserves everything that's coming to them. You've been proven wrong several times so you just yell louder. HNIC probably loves this thread. Trolls make the board interesting.
 
Do we really need to even ask for the math when this entire concept can be proven with a simple plane ticket to Antarctica
 
This is like arguing with a Trump supporter. We're truly in the age of anti-intellectualism. They think if they yell loud enough and call people enough names they're right. Dumb people always think they have secret knowledge to make themselves feel more intelligent. It's not secret, it's wrong. Anyone that follows you deserves everything that's coming to them. You've been proven wrong several times so you just yell louder. HNIC probably loves this thread. Trolls make the board interesting.
Gifs.

That's how this particular science dunce self-validates
 
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