For African-Americans in Ghana, The Grass Isn't Always Greener

Marcus Garvey, stokley Carmichael, and Louise little were coons ?

No, but all immigrants since them apparently must be since you gotta go back 60 years to find someone righteous to name. :lol: Who is todays Marcus or Stokely? Aint none. What non Black American is a revolutionary for Black Americans in the USA today? Aint none. Just capitalists.
 
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How can you post something in 2020, which was written back in 2001?
 
No. Why would I want to go from being a second-class American to a second-class African?
Everyday, you sound more and more like Megatron. Don't worry, no one has ever invited you
personally. Please do not whine about Africa, just forget we even exist. We owe you nothing
and you owe us nothing
 
That’s comparing apples to oranges.

In 2001 there was only a few hundred African Americans in Ghana, now there are THOUSANDS, and that’s not including Brothas and Sistas from the Caribbeans. Also, the last president of Ghana before he left office made a large group of African diasporans citizens. Anyone in that article that was having issues with visas are probably citizens now.

One of my homies has a property in Ghana and was renting that shit like crazy last year. A sista my wife works with owns a house in Eastern Ghana and rents it out when she is not there.

African Americans bring a unique flavor to Ghana, and it’s better we breakdown the barriers and rebuild properly. We’ve got so much money to make all over the continent, and this type of cross continental unity will help to advance markets.

I see a lot of great things happening within the next 5-10 years.

Africa is a gold mine. If ADOS invest money into places like Ghana, Liberia, and Rwanda then both sides can win. If Africa shuns us and allows the Chinese and Indians to colonize then Africa will remain 2nd worldy.
 
Ignorance really must be bliss...

So what exactly was the point of posting a 20 year old article...in particular without a current follow up or actual personal experience since?

Tell me what in the article is no longer relevant.

How can you post something in 2020, which was written back in 2001?

See above.

The agenda to set the Diaspora against itself is fucking ceaseless.

The so-called “diaspora” was set against itself when the Ashanti kingdoms and others decided to raid their fellow Africans and sell them to Europeans.

Everyday, you sound more and more like Megatron. Don't worry, no one has ever invited you
personally. Please do not whine about Africa, just forget we even exist. We owe you nothing
and you owe us nothing

I thought you were Southern African. Why are you up in West African business?
 
I thought you were Southern African. Why are you up in West African business?

It is not your right or business to subdivide areas of concern to Africans. To use you own arguments,
you are not even an African. How is Africa any of your business- see where your bullshit argument
that I am from Southern Africa gets you?
 
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The so-called “diaspora” was set against itself when the Ashanti kingdoms and others decided to raid their fellow Africans and sell them to Europeans.
There is no diaspora when we are all in our native lands.
Inter-tribal/intercontinental warfare exists and persists within every region on Earth, not just Africa.
I bet you say "What about Black on Black crime?"
 
THIS POST SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN MADE!

Are you guys REALLY going to let the Wall Street Journal tell you what Blacks in another land think about you? Are you mad? If African is so bad, why do fuckin' cacs get so fire eyed angry when they see amerikkkan Blacks embracing the continent? Don't let a bunch of candy ass racist swines program your thinking. Matter of fact, don't allow anyone to program you. You have some level of interest or you wouldn't be on this thread. Do it correctly and you can spend 2 weeks in Ghana for under 2K.... go see what's there!
 
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VAiz4hustlaz said:
Tell me what in the article is no longer relevant.

A fools errand...

With zero actual experience on the subject, YOU posted an outdated article based on SOME experiences and when called out on YOUR exact point of relevance you punt? Do i have this right?

Basically in the amount of time your sourced relevance has aged, South Korea became 1st world.
 
It is not your right or business to subdivide areas of concern to Africans. To use you own arguments,
you are not even an African. How is Africa any of your business- see where your bullshit argument
that I am from Southern Africa gets you?

And how is Black American business any of yours? I’m not on Somalispot or Nairaland or any other African-oriented board, but you’re here.

There is no diaspora when we are all in our native lands.
Inter-tribal/intercontinental warfare exists and persists within every region on Earth, not just Africa.
I bet you say "What about Black on Black crime?"

But “African”-Americans are not in our native lands (unless you’re on that Indigenous Moor bullshit). Why is that? Why can’t we even have that concer

A fools errand...

With zero actual experience on the subject, YOU posted an outdated article based on SOME experiences and when called out on YOUR exact point of relevance you punt? Do i have this right?

Basically in the amount of time your sourced relevance has aged, South Korea became 1st world.

Once again, what information in the article is no longer relevant?
 
It would seem we would get it together here before trying to take it anywhere else. Blacks should at least be trying to take Alabama. A part of this earth that we totally have taken back from white devils. Other than that remain sleep and live by white domination, white ideas, white values, white visions, a white reality. And we already know that they are liars. We have been actually helping to pass on and promote a lot of their lies.
I started wondering about Ghana when Clinton was the first American president to land there and the citizens act like he was the return of Jesus Christ. Farrakhan stated that there are still some African countries that air force one is not landing there no matter what they promised the people.
 
VAiz4hustlaz said:
Once again, what information in the article is no longer relevant?

Predictable...

I'm convinced you didn't properly read the article nor comprehend fully before fumbling over yourself to post...highlighting points and opinions in bold red as if factual...from the usual suspect journalist literally passing through the country. You're still asking for relevance when there are videos posted in here that counter your relevance, as a start.

Your mind seems made up but you want us to contradict your aged relevance?! Just admit that you're neither ready or interested in this deep conversation.

This is your phucking king? I digress...

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Predictable...

I'm convinced you didn't properly read the article nor comprehend fully before fumbling over yourself to post...highlighting points and opinions in bold red as if factual...from the usual suspect journalist literally passing through the country. You're still asking for relevance when there are videos posted in here that counter your relevance, as a start.

Your mind seems made up but you want us to contradict your aged relevance?! Just admit that you're neither ready or interested in this deep conversation.

This is your phucking king? I digress...

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I'm simply trying to get a direct answer to my question, which I have yet to receive. What below is no longer relevant?

Indeed, many black Americans living in Ghana find they aren't particularly welcome -- and wonder whether they need a new civil rights movement to secure a place in their adopted home. Ghana forbids American residents from taking most government jobs. Hospitals charge them higher fees. Americans can't vote in elections or participate in local politics. It is virtually impossible for them to obtain citizenship, or permanent "right of abode," even after marrying a Ghanaian. The infamous slave castles along Ghana's coastline impose entrance fees on Americans that are 30 times as high as those paid by locals.
 
Old or not and despite the progress that is made the article does still provide some insight of the types of attitudes African Americans may face going to Ghana.

I still want to buy a home in Ghana.
 
All I'm going to say is I've been to Ghana a few times and the people always treated me like family. Some of the best guys I've ever worked with. I was there when they shut a rig down due to not being paid correctly. The cac's closed off the upper decks to hide while I was walking around that bitch without a worry in the world.
 
I'm simply trying to get a direct answer to my question, which I have yet to receive. What below is no longer relevant?
Indeed, many black Americans living in Ghana find they aren't particularly welcome
- FALSE/IRRELEVANT. There are many black americans living in Ghana who feel welcome. if there are a few who still dont feel welcome after living there for 20 years, then they're the problem, not the indigs​
-- and wonder whether they need a new civil rights movement to secure a place in their adopted home.
- this here is a crock of shit statement. Black americans living in ghana aren't being subjected to treatment that would necessitate or warrant this type of thinking. Are there any Ghanaians mistreating black americans living in Ghana, no. Is the govt of ghana targeting black americans with legislation that incarcerates them en masse - NO Is the ghanaian police sicing dogs on african americans in ghana? no​
so what the fuck or where the fuck is all this talk about the need for a civil rights movement coming from?​
Ghana forbids American residents from taking most government jobs.
-this here can be said for any nation on earth. you are not just gonna go to another country and go take up government jobs over there
Hospitals charge them higher fees.
-where exactly was the author's proof on this?
Americans can't vote in elections or participate in local politics.
- again this can be said of every nation on earth. when this article was written, 20 years ago, Ghana had only been practicing democracy for what 4 years. 4 fucking years. this was a nation barely familiar with the concept of democracy and you wanted it to do what? allow people of other nationalities to come in and have a say in its internal politics? nah. if you weren't a citizen, how the fuck should you be allowed to engage in politics? do ghanaians come to america fresh of the boat and insert themselves into american politics? this is just pure common sense​
It is virtually impossible for them to obtain citizenship, or permanent "right of abode," even after marrying a Ghanaian.
-that may have been the case 20 years ago. have you checked now to see what the Akuffo addo admin did last year to help with the pathway to citizenship for african americans? NO you haven't.
The infamous slave castles along Ghana's coastline impose entrance fees on Americans that are 30 times as high as those paid by locals.
-...and this is emblematic of what? The cultures and values of Ghanaians? so you are an african american living in ghana and you decide to visit let's say Elmina castle. the first time around you go there, the locals see you in your fancy designer clothes, pockets bulging and they figure they'll hustle you out of your money by imposing a "tourist tax" on whatever you spend...okay, so they got you the first time. you go back a second time, same thing. okay, so they got you the second time. if by the third time you go back, and by that time you havent recognized that it's just a hustle, well then that's on you. and if it's any consolation to you, they are more than likely doing the same thing to the white tourists and the asian tourists etc. it's just a hustle​

since you have been called out and can't really defend yourself except to keep asking the same irrelevant question over and over again, lemme help you out a little. i am going to answer your question directly. see above for the highlighted answers
 
since you have been called out and can't really defend yourself except to keep asking the same irrelevant question over and over again, lemme help you out a little. i am going to answer your question directly. see above for the highlighted answers
since you have been called out and can't really defend yourself except to keep asking the same irrelevant question over and over again, lemme help you out a little. i am going to answer your question directly. see above for the highlighted answers


What Nobody Tells You About Moving to Ghana as an African-American or Caribbean Returnee
Dreaming of living to Africa? Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst. Expect nothing. And you should do just fine.

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Dec 28, 2019 · 12 min read (too long for you? :D)


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I’ve always wanted to move to Ghana. I fell in love with the people and the place on my first visit there in 1989. My father had always told me that we were from the Gold Coast. The Gold Coast, he said, was where our people came from before the carry beyond. We had been brought to Jamaica on ships long ago, but we were Ashanti people, he said. I had no idea where in Africa the Gold Coast was exactly — until I landed in Ghana on that first trip.
“You are strong in face and black like us,” my host, Mister Yawson said. “You are Ashanti — Kumasi people.” That’s when the penny dropped. I have lived ever since with a dream of returning where, in going back, there would be no loss. I would never have physically relocated, however, had I not landed a dream job in Accra with a multinational advertising agency in 2011. Below are some of the things I’ve learned in my six years of living and working among Ghanaians. Here is what no one will tell you about moving to Ghana as an African-American, a person of Caribbean heritage, or anyone else for that matter.
1. Beware the Anansi-Style Tricksters
Brer Nansi had filled my childhood imagination with his playful trickery in a world full of magic. The way my father told these stories made me want to live in that paradise. These ancient tales from when I was a boy, remain my most enduring memories of idle days spent with my old man. Brer Nansi and his double-dealing trickery were likely the real catalysts for my ideas about moving to Ghana in the first place. However, the moment you land at Kotoka International Airport, you are not quite prepared for the kinds of tricksters poised to pounce and “chop your money,” as they say.
Friends often ask me if I miss living in Ghana. But for me, living in Ghana was extremely stressful. The longer I lived and worked in the country was the more I found the culture and character of its people guided by a kind of Machiavellian mindset that had me reminded of the duplicitous Iago in Shakespeare’s Othello. Everyone in Ghana is Godly. They go to church and pray every day. Yet like that crafty spider, Anansi, many people will tie you up in a web of lies and sinful deceit without a thread of guilt or any sense of moral consideration.
2. Don’t Fall Prey to the Land & Letting Scams
One of the first things you’ll want to do in Ghana is to find yourself somewhere to live. You might even have come with the idea of building your dream home or setting up a business. You may have been warned about buying land from unscrupulous real estate charlatans, but letting agents are just as much a bunch of untrustworthy hustlers. Young men standing on street corners, typically, hoping for the best of what the wind may blow.
There are too many stories of rental and real estate scams going on at any one time to keep count. You really do need to be extra vigilant, and very cautious, about to whom you hand your hard-earned cash when conducting business in Ghana. Some landlords demand up to three years’ rent in advance on residential lettings. Others see fit to request ten years’ payment upfront on commercial leases. You stand to lose a tidy sum if you hand your money to the wrong people. Always check and double-check and do your due diligence because the police won’t help you when the deal turns sour. You may even have to pay the “Po-Po” to investigate on your behalf.
3. Ethnic Conflicts Are Rife
After only a short time in the country, you begin to see that there is little trust between neighbouring folks, let alone between the various ethnic groups and clans. Each person has to be second-guessing the real intention of others, and the gap between what people say and what they will do. You begin to wonder how easily Ghanaians must have been duped into selling their fellow citizens into a transatlantic slavery in exchange for trinkets and useless shiny things.
You would be surprised today to witness how little Ghanaian chiefs, elders and leaders have learnt from their forebears’ role in the heinous Transatlantic Slave Trade. They will sooner sell their fellow countrymen down the Volta River as quick as shake hands with the nearest Chinaman — or practically any other non-black foreigner — all of whom are “white” to most Ghanaians. It is quite disturbing to see for us sons and daughters of the “carry beyond.”
We should like to believe that on the surface of things, this insistence in Ghana on peaceful coexistence actually stands for something akin to an unbreakable sense of unity. When you delve into the culture and the way people treat each other, however, nothing could be further from the truth. The Ashanti hate the Akan, who hate the Ewe, who despise the Fanti, and so it goes on.
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4. Avoid Money-Hungry Businessmen Who Provide No Service
Soon you begin to learn that far too many Ghanaians will try to profit from that which they have not earned. Too many will beg, steal, and dupe you out of your hard-earned living, while others expend all of their energy trying to gain benefit from not providing a service.
Even when you take a business opportunity to a Ghanaian, he won’t run with it like a Nigerian might. More often than not, you find yourself having to push the Ghanaian businessman to take the initiative or to do what he has promised. Whereas the Lebanese, Chinese or Indian will spot a chance to make money in Ghana and be on it like a leech. The Ghanaian is saying, “maybe tomorrow,” and will rather complain that foreigners own everything in his country.
This laidback attitude is a striking difference that appears to lack creative thinking, but it’s not as if your average Ghanaian is lazy. On the contrary, a Ghanaian will quite often go the-long-way round to get a job done. Toiling all day in the beating sun, for example, when you or I might consider a hundred easier ways to make a living or to reach the same objective.
5. A General Lack of Creative Solutions
It’s quite bizarre, really, because Ghanaian children never seem to lack the ability to find creative solutions to existing problems. Up until about the time children reach adolescence, the hope in their eyes is one of the most endearing things about living in Ghana. But something changes at around puberty. These hopeful children suddenly turn into younger versions of the mindless adults they’ll become in later life. Again, it’s rather pitiful to witness, because it’s like someone turned out the lights. “Dumsor,” as the saying goes.
These adolescents then become like endless fodder for traditions and religions that teach people how not to think. Like everyone else, they merely follow. Nothing creative left here to see at all. Nigeria is a very different environment by comparison. It’s a lot more competitive for a start, and Nigerians tend to be more dynamic and business-like in their determination to succeed, wherever they might be in the world.
I realised pretty quickly while living in Ghana that you could hardly get anything done without error, without people trying to overcharge, or without the need to stand over workers giving instructions all the way. “Why keep a dog and bark yourself?” Even the simplest things in Ghana take forever to accomplish. So, everything got on my nerves on a daily basis — except, perhaps, the simple pleasures like being Chauffeur-driven around town, and the fact that the sun always shines.
6. Expect Only Lip Service from the ‘Home Coming’ Campaign
So while the president offers lip service about African American and Caribbean people returning ‘home’ to aid the development of Ghana, expect nothing much from the various government mouthpieces at Jubilee House and elsewhere. You might think any department that exists to help diaspora returnees would have an approved list of estate agents in a marketplace renowned for real estate ripoffs. But don’t be silly, “we’re not estate agents,” said the director of Diaspora Affairs, a Ghana-born returnee from Croydon.
After meetings with him and two other people, including his deputy now 90-minutes late for our Jubilee House appointment, I was no wiser about what these government officials do or can offer to people who may wish to invest in Ghana from all corners of the diaspora. It might help if the department for Diaspora Affairs had some people from the diaspora working within it. What we have instead is the usual bunch of locals and fellow Ghanaians returning from England and America to rejoin their various clans in the process of feathering their own nests.
7. Jamaicans vs. Ghanaians
I spent the following afternoon with a few of the “Jamaican” contingent in Ghana. They number some 200-plus members, apparently, and have their own cooperative going. It’s always nice to see some of the “London-born” posse and catch up. But boy, how they can turn the air blue with their cussing and personal gripes. What’s the point of living in Ghana for ten or more years if you don’t like Ghanaians?
Some of the guys even have Ghanaian “wives” and kids, but you’d never believe it by listening to their opinion of local people. Close your eyes and you’d think it was the voice of some white racist talking about “ignorant baboons” and “corrupt brainless fools.” They like to keep up this “them” and “us” facade, which I don’t happen to share, and reminds me of why it’s been over 18-months since I saw them last.
They’re fine and good people, nice enough guys and gals, but I don’t understand the point of digging yourself into a separatist hole to the extent whereby you find it hard to work with or trust the people around you, and so, you begin to stagnate and, ultimately, end up in a self-induced weed slumber.
“It’s all those reggae records we listened to throughout the 70s, 80s and 90s,” said one, “daydreaming of Africa, only to come ‘home’ now to find a welcome that’s not quite what we expected.” Well, tough f**king luck! I see you didn’t leave England to move to Jamaica, where the locals there will have probably shot you dead by now, or burgled your house numerous times because they see you as wealthy returnees. “No, I couldn’t live in Jamaica at all,” they’ll tell you. “The place too violent out there, man. But we reach home now, and we nar leaving here, no matter what none-a-them say.”
“Dem nuh like us. Is only we money dem love. Dem want we fe go and leave all a we things to dem. That a what dem want. Over my dead body!”
8. What I DO Miss About Living in Ghana
Do I miss living in Ghana? “I don’t miss living in Ghana at all,” I’d say to the people who asked. What I do miss is living in a tropical environment with the sound and feel of nature all around. I miss living amongst people who look like me, even if I don’t appreciate the high levels of poverty in which we have to live, the blight of a poor education system, or the over-importance we place on religion. I miss seeing loving black people and billboards with families and couples.
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I miss the smiling faces of random men, my many soul brothers. I miss waking each morning knowing that I’ll see the whole gamut of black life from the cradle to the grave. I miss kids I’ve never met before walking pass my open gate, “Good morning” or “good evening,” they’ll say. I miss my dog, Kojo, and the sound of his excited barking as I approached in a cab towards the walled and gated house where he’d been sleeping in the yard.
I say I don’t miss Ghana, but when you come to think of it, there is a lot to miss about the place. From the outside looking in, Ghana always seems very inviting. Once you’re living in it, however, it’s a completely different story. For most people, two weeks on vacation is just about enough to leave them wanting more. And they say they feel so at home.
“You’re welcome, my sister. One love, my brother!”
9. Opportunities Abound
There are huge opportunities in Africa with a million and one things to be done on the continent. The multinational advertising agency I worked for on arrival makes millions of dollars per year in each of several African countries. The Europen clients who persuaded me to set up my own ad agency in Ghana make bucket-loads of cash selling cars or building roads, bridges, and whatnot. It’s easier for them because they can turn off from the high levels of poverty or corruption they see around them, and they generally don’t associate with local people outside of work. They don’t care about the population as we might. They are there simply to make money to go back to France or wherever.
I earned more in Ghana than I ever earn in the UK, but my clients were all non-Ghanaians who paid me well because I provide a reliable, quality service. If I were twenty years younger, I might have stayed, but the pace of change is slow in Ghana. I’ve been going there for 30 years, and little has changed for 80% of the people while the remaining 20% enjoy it all. It is really only the character of the people that has changed considerably from the days when Flight Lieutenant Jerry Rawlings ruled Ghana with an iron fist. I barely recognise Ghanaians today as the same kind, good-natured people I met in the 1980s and 90s. Intellectual stimulation is not as readily available as one might like, either, unless of course, you want to spend your time fraternising among ex-pat communities.
It’s a similar sense of isolation that returnees experience in the Caribbean because they’re on a completely different wavelength to the local population (even if they once lived there as children). It’s easier to adapt when you’re young, and there are endless opportunities in Ghana if you can stay for the long haul. Africa needs to recruit more Africans from the diaspora if that positive change is ever to happen for the continent’s benefit as a whole. Otherwise, China and others are just queuing up to recolonise it albeit with full approval from the twenty-per cent.
10. Our Houseboy Said It Best
I was having a conversation just before I left with the young man I employed to help out around the place, when he shocked me with an outburst that went something like this:
“We Ghanaians are cowards,” he said. “We will argue with you all day about football or anything, but ask us to stand up and fight for our rights, and we’ll run home scared to hide in a cupboard with a pillow over our heads, shivering in the darkness like a cartoon fool. Perhaps 19-years of military rule under JJ Rawlings has turned us into scaredy-cats. Maybe we were always this way. I’m too young to know.
The history books say that we were once fierce and noble warriors. These days, we Ghanaians, we don’t like to rock the boat. We don’t want people who rock the boat. We talk always of peace, as if our silence is a virtue in the face of our national suffering, while our politicians rob our country and we fear the truth as much as we fear God.
Ordinary men avoid trouble, they say. Extraordinary men turn trouble to their advantage. We here in Ghana have become a bunch of soft, servile men, and our women like beasts of burden.”
It was the most astute social analysis I’d heard from any sone of the land in six years. And to think that I got away with paying him a pittance to clean up after my dog. Within weeks of his outburst, he had left my employment to set up on his own. We still keep in touch via WhatsApp. But he is unemployed these days where he lives from hand to mouth like the majority of young people across the country. Poor people in Ghana have a right to be angry, yet we get not a squeak out of them. That’s Ghana for you, and we’re so proud of her.

 
^^^ Seriously...what exactly is YOUR point? You continue to post opinions/experience of others as if fact. Every single thing mentioned in your posted articles can be experienced on any continent/city at any given time. You really must not travel much and your pitiful attempt to save face is juvenile.

For every negative conjecture you post there are hundreds to thousands of counter experiences which can be read and researched ad infinitum.

So again...what exactly is YOUR fucking point?
 
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