Facts About Goldman Sachs, Must Read!

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source: The New York Times.com

By JENNY ANDERSON and LANDON THOMAS Jr.
Published: November 19, 2007
For more than three months, as turmoil in the credit market has swept wildly through Wall Street, one mighty investment bank after another has been brought to its knees, leveled by multibillion-dollar blows to their bottom lines.

And then there is Goldman Sachs.

Rarely on Wall Street, where money travels in herds, has one firm gotten it so right when nearly everyone else was getting it so wrong. So far, three banking chief executives have been forced to resign after the debacle, and the pay for nearly all the survivors is expected to be cut deeply.

But for Goldman’s chief executive, Lloyd C. Blankfein, this is turning out to be a very good year. He will surely earn more than the $54.3 million he made last year. If he gets a 20 percent raise — in line with the growth of Goldman’s compensation pool — he will take home at least $65 million. Some expect his pay, which is directly tied to the firm’s performance, to climb as high as $75 million.

Goldman’s good fortune cannot be explained by luck alone. Late last year, as the markets roared along, David A. Viniar, Goldman’s chief financial officer, called a “mortgage risk” meeting in his meticulous 30th-floor office in Lower Manhattan.

At that point, the holdings of Goldman’s mortgage desk were down somewhat, but the notoriously nervous Mr. Viniar was worried about bigger problems. After reviewing the full portfolio with other executives, his message was clear: the bank should reduce its stockpile of mortgages and mortgage-related securities and buy expensive insurance as protection against further losses, a person briefed on the meeting said.

With its mix of swagger and contrary thinking, it was just the kind of bet that has long defined Goldman’s hard-nosed, go-it-alone style.

Most of the firm’s competitors, meanwhile, with the exception of the more specialized Lehman Brothers, appeared to barrel headlong into the mortgage markets. They kept packaging and trading complex securities for high fees without protecting themselves against the positions they were buying.

Even Goldman, which saw the problems coming, continued to package risky mortgages to sell to investors. Some of those investors took losses on those securities, while Goldman’s hedges were profitable.

When the credit markets seized up in late July, Goldman was in the enviable position of having offloaded the toxic products that Merrill Lynch, Citigroup, UBS, Bear Stearns and Morgan Stanley, among others, had kept buying.

“If you look at their profitability through a period of intense credit and mortgage market turmoil,” said Guy Moszkowski, an analyst at Merrill Lynch who covers the investment banks, “you’d have to give them an A-plus.”

This contrast in performance has been hard for competitors to swallow. The bank that seems to have a hand in so many deals and products and regions made more money in the boom and, at least so far, has managed to keep making money through the bust.

In turn, Goldman’s stock has significantly outperformed its peers. At the end of last week it was up about 13 percent for the year, compared with a drop of almost 14 percent for the XBD, the broker-dealer index that includes the leading Wall Street banks. Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns and Citigroup are down almost 40 percent this year.

Goldman’s secret sauce, say executives, analysts and historians, is high-octane business acumen, tempered with paranoia and institutionally encouraged — though not always observed — humility.

“There is no mystery, or secret handshake,” said Stephen Friedman, a former co-chairman and now a Goldman director. “We did a lot of work to build a culture here in the 1980s, and now people are playing on the balls of their feet. We just have a damn good talent pool.”

That pool has allowed Goldman to extend its reach across Wall Street and beyond.

Last week, John A. Thain, a former Goldman co-president, accepted the top position at Merrill Lynch, while a fellow Goldman alumnus, Duncan L. Niederauer, took Mr. Thain’s job running the New York Stock Exchange. Another fellow veteran trader, Daniel Och, took his $30 billion hedge fund public.

Meanwhile, two Goldman managing directors helped bring Alex Rodriguez back to the Yankees, a deal that could enhance the value of Goldman’s 40 percent stake in the YES cable network — which it is trying to sell — while also pleasing Yankee fans. The symmetry was perfect: like the Yankees, Goldman, more than any other bank on Wall Street, is both hated and revered.

Robert E. Rubin, a former Goldman head, is the new chairman of Citigroup. In Washington, another former chief, Henry M. Paulson Jr., is the Treasury secretary, having been recruited by Joshua B. Bolten, the White House chief of staff and yet another former Goldman executive.

The heads of the Canadian and Italian central banks are Goldman alumni. The World Bank president, Robert B. Zoellick, is another. Jon S. Corzine, once a co-chairman, is the governor of New Jersey. And in academia, Robert S. Kaplan, a former vice chairman, has just been picked as the interim head of Harvard University’s $35 billion endowment.

Since going public in 1999, Goldman has been the No. 1 mergers and acquisitions adviser, globally and in the United States, with two exceptions: in 2005 it came in second in the United States rankings, and in 2000 it lost the top spot globally. In both instances, Morgan Stanley took the lead, according to Dealogic.

Goldman, of course, has made its share of mistakes. It took among the most serious write-downs in the third quarter on loans that were made to private equity firms, totaling $1.5 billion. The firm runs one of the largest hedge fund operations in the world, but its flagship funds — funds whose investors include marquee Goldman clients and employees — have had two years of abysmal performance. Clients are expected to redeem billions of dollars of capital at the end 2007.

But Goldman’s absence from the mortgage debacle and the strong performance of its other businesses made up for the write-down associated with the loans. The firm reported $2.85 billion in profit in the third quarter, up 79 percent. Mr. Moszkowski estimates that investment and commercial banks in the United States have taken $50 billion in write-downs related to mortgages, with more coming; Mr. Blankfein said at a conference last week that he expected to take none.

Goldman’s business is built on taking risks, both for itself and its clients. In recent years, Goldman has established the largest private equity and real estate fund complexes in the world. That has led to natural tensions with private equity clients who sometimes complain, but never publicly, about Goldman’s common insistence to team up with them for a piece of the deal.

“Goldman has done the best job of any firm in the U.S. or world competing with their clients but doing business with them,” said one client who asked not to be named because he does business with the firm. “They’ve managed to get their clients to live with it.”

Still, this bottom-line approach has turned off some Goldman veterans and clients. They see the firm’s desire to advise, finance and invest — a so-called triple play — as antithetical to Goldman’s stated No. 1 business principle of putting clients first.

And there is little question that its success in trading, investment banking and servicing hedge funds — many of the traders come right from Goldman — allows the firm a bird’s-eye view on trends and capital flows in the market.

Numerous Goldman investment bankers, former and current, voice the view that Mr. Blankfein’s approach — using Goldman’s investment banking business to develop principal investment opportunities for the firm — creates a brand intended to feed Goldman’s profits rather than relationships. But this harking back to the firm’s golden days as a pure advisory firm does not find much sympathy at Goldman these days.

“I have little patience for these people who talk of the last days of Camelot,” Mr. Friedman said. “Principal investing has been an important and useful business. If you want to be relevant you have to anticipate where the world is going.”

Mr. Blankfein, at the conference last week, echoed that sentiment. “While the integration of our investment banking operations with our merchant bank was somewhat controversial at the time, we felt these businesses were mutually reinforcing,” he said.

Money soothes a lot of concerns, of course, and Goldman has had plenty to spread around. Through the third quarter, Goldman’s $16.9 billion compensation pool — the money it sets aside to pay its employees — was significantly bigger than the entire $11.4 billion market capitalization of Bear Stearns.

Goldman executives and analysts assign much of their success to smart people and a relatively flat hierarchy that encourages executives to challenge one another. As a result, good ideas can get to the top.

But the differentiator that has become clearest recently is the firm’s ability to manage its risks, a tricky task for any bank. Checks and balances must be in place to turn off a business spigot even as it is still making a lot of money for a lot of people. In a world where power gravitates to the rainmakers, that means only management can empower the party crashers.

At Goldman, the controller’s office — the group responsible for valuing the firm’s huge positions — has 1,100 people, including 20 Ph.D.’s. If there is a dispute, the controller is always deemed right unless the trading desk can make a convincing case for an alternate valuation. The bank says risk managers swap jobs with traders and bankers over a career and can be paid the same multimillion-dollar salaries as investment bankers.

“The risk controllers are taken very seriously,” Mr. Moszkowski said. “They have a level of authority and power that is, on balance, equivalent to the people running the cash registers. It’s not as clear that that happens everywhere.”

For all its success on Wall Street, it is Goldman’s global reach and political heft that inspire a mix of envy and admiration. In the race for president, Goldman Sachs executives are the top contributors to Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, and the second highest contributor to Hillary Rodham Clinton. Mr. Blankfein has held a fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton in his apartment and has come out publicly in her favor.

Another member of Goldman’s influential diaspora is Philip D. Murphy, a retired executive who is the chief fund-raiser for the Democratic National Committee.

All of which has made Goldman a favorite of conspiracy theorists, columnists and bloggers who see the firm as a Wall Street version of the Trilateral Commission.

One particular obsession is President Bush’s working group on the markets, an informal committee led by Mr. Paulson that includes Ben S. Bernanke, the chairman of the Federal Reserve; Christopher Cox, the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission; and Walter Lukken, the acting chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

The group meets about once a quarter — privately, with no minutes taken — to ensure that government agencies are briefed on market conditions and issues. The group is currently examining the extent to which the packaging and distribution of mortgage loans contributed to the crisis. It also recently completed a study recommending that hedge funds not be subject to further regulation; the group’s fund committee was led by Eric Mindich, a former Goldman trader who now runs a successful hedge fund.

There is no evidence that the conduct of the group is anything but above board. But to some, the group’s existence adds more color to the view that Goldman is indeed everywhere — much as J. P. Morgan was in the early years of the 20th century.

“Goldman Sachs has as much influence now that the old J. P. Morgan had between 1895 and 1930,” said Charles R. Geisst, a Wall Street historian at Manhattan College. “But, like Morgan, they could be victimized by their own success.”

Mr. Blankfein of Goldman seems aware of all this. When asked at a conference how he hoped to take advantage of his competitors’ weakened position, he said Goldman was focused on making fewer mistakes. But he wryly observed that the firm would surely take it on the chin at some point, too.

“Everybody,” he said, “gets their turn.”
 
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T.O.

Check your PM's, re: the Unsung Heroes thread.

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when everybody was buying these structured products guess who was selling?? Goldman. another year of big bonuses to their employee's, wish shareholders got some of that instead of a drop in share price from mid 200's
 
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Confirmed, I know which posts you choose to not post and the posts you choose to comment on.

Bruh, you cauld have just clicked on my name, and chose "find all posts", It's not complicated.

And, you can bet your bottom dollar that I will cheer smart business practices. Incase you don't know, most Americans have thier retirement invested in such companies. Good governance = Good Retirement.
 
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Bruh, you cauld have just clicked on my name, and chose "find all posts", It's not complicated.

And, you can bet your bottom dollar that I will cheer smart business practices. Incase you don't know, most Americans have thier retirement invested in such companies. Good governance = Good Retirement.

Months after Goldman Sachs collapses...

:lol:
 
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Three of my friends got huge bonuses. I'm still glad I didn't take the job they offered.
 
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Months after Goldman Sachs collapses...

:lol:

Mr. Blankfein of Goldman seems aware of all this. When asked at a conference how he hoped to take advantage of his competitors’ weakened position, he said Goldman was focused on making fewer mistakes. But he wryly observed that the firm would surely take it on the chin at some point, too.

“Everybody,” he said, “gets their turn.”


This is from your own article. Among the big houses, GS is STILL in the strongest position.
 
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Mr. Blankfein of Goldman seems aware of all this. When asked at a conference how he hoped to take advantage of his competitors’ weakened position, he said Goldman was focused on making fewer mistakes. But he wryly observed that the firm would surely take it on the chin at some point, too.

“Everybody,” he said, “gets their turn.”


This is from your own article. Among the big houses, GS is STILL in the strongest position.


That doesn't stir strong confidences considering. Is the economy fundamentally sound?
 
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That doesn't stir strong confidences considering. Is the economy fundamentally sound?

First off, you're changing the argument (which you always do when proven wrong, which is often). You stated that GS collapsed, which it hasn't. And, in the article you posted, one of the heads of GS stated that "everybody gets thier turn", which shows a good understanding of the market.

Second, markets are cyclical, unless the Gov't fucks with it, which it has. I have been consistently critical of gov't. intervention in the market, and once again (sadly), my mistrust has been affirmed by it's actions.

Folks like you who keep begging for the gov't. to take care of you, get taken care of, alright. I'm just pissed that your self-destructive policies carry the rest down too.
 
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First off, you're changing the argument (which you always do when proven wrong, which is often). You stated that GS collapsed, which it hasn't. And, in the article you posted, one of the heads of GS stated that "everybody gets thier turn", which shows a good understanding of the market.

Second, markets are cyclical, unless the Gov't fucks with it, which it has. I have been consistently critical of gov't. intervention in the market, and once again (sadly), my mistrust has been affirmed by it's actions.

Folks like you who keep begging for the gov't. to take care of you, get taken care of, alright. I'm just pissed that your self-destructive policies carry the rest down too.

I stand corrected, I meant Bear Stearns.

You're type want the government to bail out your speculation. I want to work with out big corporations tipping the scales away from my choices. If the government had not intervened in the financial system beginning with the Reagan lead S&L crisis, you would have leaped out of a high rise window long ago. The Bush false stock market of the last 8 years was crap. The economy was doing fine for 40 years, with those cyclical ups and downs you point out. The supply siders took control of the economy and now we are the greatest debtor nation ever, beholden to our former enemies and terrorist countries for our economic survival. Save the right wing "I want a government hand out" for your republican buddies. If the economy is fundamentally sound, let those corporations operate with out the backing of the government treasury.
 
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I stand corrected, I meant Bear Stearns.

You're type want the government to bail out your speculation. I want to work with out big corporations tipping the scales away from my choices. If the government had not intervened in the financial system beginning with the Reagan lead S&L crisis, you would have leaped out of a high rise window long ago. The Bush false stock market of the last 8 years was crap. The economy was doing fine for 40 years, with those cyclical ups and downs you point out. The supply siders took control of the economy and now we are the greatest debtor nation ever, beholden to our former enemies and terrorist countries for our economic survival. Save the right wing "I want a government hand out" for your republican buddies. If the economy is fundamentally sound, let those corporations operate with out the backing of the government treasury.


Well, you lose. Get your facts straight, especially when they are from an article YOU posted. Typical.

And, stop your lying. You know I am not a republican (unless you posess inadaquate reading comprehension skills), so stop trying to make youself feel better by having another factually inadequate ad hoc attack.

And (suprisingly), I agree with you on not bailing them out. They should fail if they are not a good company. (I guess even a broken clock [you in this case] is right twice a day).

Question, why do you soooo want government to bail out poor decisions made by people, but not do the same for those who provide people with jobs ?
 
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Well, you lose. Get your facts straight, especially when they are from an article YOU posted. Typical.

And, stop your lying. You know I am not a republican (unless you posess inadaquate reading comprehension skills), so stop trying to make youself feel better by having another factually inadequate ad hoc attack.

And (suprisingly), I agree with you on not bailing them out. They should fail if they are not a good company. (I guess even a broken clock [you in this case] is right twice a day).

Question, why do you soooo want government to bail out poor decisions made by people, but not do the same for those who provide people with jobs ?

I don't want the government to bail out people who couldn't read their mortgage contracts. Your typically, as expected stereotyping me. Those are the same people perpetrating with SUVs and then when gas goes up to $4/gallon, they want to drill baby, drill and support wars in countries that have large oil reserves. Bush got elected twice and the republicans gained control over congress on the premise of the "I got mine, you get yours" attitude. Now let all of the hypocrites pay!
 
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I don't want the government to bail out people who couldn't read their mortgage contracts. Your typically, as expected stereotyping me. Those are the same people perpetrating with SUVs and then when gas goes up to $4/gallon, they want to drill baby, drill and support wars in countries that have large oil reserves. Bush got elected twice and the republicans gained control over congress on the premise of the "I got mine, you get yours" attitude. Now let all of the hypocrites pay!

This has nothing to do with this post. Stay on topic. I did not sterotype you at all, I pegged you perfectly.
 
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whats funny is that most people dont know that Goldman was fully prepared for this credit crunch hedging their bets while big mortgage companies still giving out bad loans. thats what makes GS ahead of the rest.
 
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This has nothing to do with this post. Stay on topic. I did not sterotype you at all, I pegged you perfectly.

From this point on, yourself, actinanass, jhoonvill, and Greed will as posters with less than credibly opinions. And I might add, I'm vindicated!

source: Huffington Post

Last Major Investment Banks Change Status

WASHINGTON — The Federal Reserve said Sunday it had granted a request by the country's last two major investment banks _ Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley _ to change their status to bank holding companies.

The Fed announced that it had approved the request of the two investment banks. The change in status will allow them to create commercial banks that will be able to take deposits, bolstering the resources of both institutions.

The change continued the biggest restructuring on Wall Street since the Great Depression.

The request for the change to bank holding companies was granted by a unanimous vote of the Fed's board of governors during a late Sunday meeting in Washington.

The change of status means both companies will come under the direct regulation of the Federal Reserve, which regulates the nation's bank holding companies. The banking subsidiaries of the two institutions will face the stricter regulations that commercial banks are required to meet. Previously, the primary regulator for Goldman and Morgan Stanley was the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Shares of both institutions had come under pressure ever since the bankruptcy filing last week by investment bank Lehman Brothers and the forced sale of investment bank Merrill Lynch to Bank of America.

Investors feared that the last remaining independent investment banks would not be able to survive in their current form. There had been speculation that both institutions would be acquired by commercial banks, whose ability to take deposits would give them a stable source of funding.

The decision by the two giants of finance to get approval from the Fed to change their own status represented another dramatic development in one of the most turbulent periods in Wall Street history.

n the surprise announcement late Sunday, the central bank said that to provide increase funding support to the two institutions during the transition period, they would be allowed to get short-term loans from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York against various types of collateral.

The Fed said its action would take final effect after a five-day waiting period required under law.

The decision means that the Goldman and Morgan Stanley will be able not only to set up commercial bank subsidiaries to take deposits, giving them a major resource base, but they will also have the same access as other commercial banks to the Fed's emergency loan program.

After the collapse of Bear Stearns and its forced sale to JP Morgan Chase last March, the Fed used powers it had been granted during the Great Depression to extend its emergency loans to investment banks as well as commercial banks. However, that extension was granted on a temporary basis.

But as commercial banks, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley will have permanent access to emergency loans from the Fed, the same privilege that other commercial banks enjoy.

The action by the Fed's board of governors in Washington came on a day when the Bush administration continued to campaign for quick congressional approval of its request for authority to use $700 billion to purchase a mountain of bad mortgage debt held by financial companies. The effort represented the boldest action yet aimed at stabilizing chaotic financial markets.

Democrats in Congress said they would demand provisions in the bailout measure to protect people in danger of losing their homes as well as seeking to cap executive compensation at firms who get to unload their bad mortgages debt onto the government. But the proposal was expected to win quick congressional passage because both parties are concerned about the adverse reaction in financial markets should the measure look like it was being delayed.
 
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TO,

First off, if you understood the story, you would see that GS was not losing money, but was suffering from a run on it. It's underlying investments were not threatened. Also, they are actually strengthening thier position by continuing to avail themselves the discout window rates that the Fed is going to close to investment banks in a few months.

Second, show a loss of money. That is the ONLY way you could discredit my stance. Until then, I am still right. I know you hate that, which is why you bounce all over the place and refuse to meet head up on anything, but that is reality.

Third, and this is minor. In you rush of (self)righteous indignation, you posted what may by the WORST attempt at a sentance I've yet to see on this board. While I know I am not a spelling maven, please at least try to make a coherent statement.
 
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source: Slate

The Goldman Rule
Should new Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson be forced to sell his $700 million stake in Goldman Sachs?
By Daniel Gross
Posted Tuesday, June 6, 2006, at 11:43 AM ET

Henry Paulson, who was recently nominated to be the next treasury secretary, is facing a lot of tough choices. Should the former CEO of Goldman Sachs continue to promote environmental causes in an administration that loathes them? What should he say about the dollar? Should he buy a condo in Washington, or a mansion? Then there's the trickiest question of all: What should he do with the mountain of money he's earned at Goldman Sachs over the years?

Not since Nelson Rockefeller served as vice president during the Ford administration has a senior government official arrived in Washington with such a high net worth. Paulson owns some 4.58 million shares in Goldman Sachs (including restricted stock) worth about $700 million at today's price and surely has millions more in other instruments.

Conflict-of-interest laws say senior government officials can't hold on to investments that could benefit from decisions they might make. Meeting this requirement is comparatively easy for an upper-middle-class secretary of agriculture. Sell your stock in Archer Daniels Midland and direct your financial adviser to avoid it and similar stocks. But for a plutocrat who is about to become secretary of treasury, it's a much more difficult call. He can't choose the default mode that worked so well for former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, who put his cash into government bonds. Treasury secretaries are forbidden from buying government debt—after all, they issue that debt. (The T-bill strategy worked out remarkably well for Greenspan, who saw his net worth rise every time he slashed rates.) And putting the money in the simplest form of investment—a dollar-denominated savings account—would be both a poor investment for Paulson and a potential conflict of interest. After all, treasury secretaries frequently discuss currency exchange rates.

The most likely scenario is that Paulson will sell his Goldman shares and place the money in a blind trust. That would be a smart move, and a profitable one, since he'd gain some tax benefits. When you sell assets to conform to government ethics requirements, the U.S. Office of Government Ethics issues a certificate of divestiture (it's summarized here) that lets you defer capital-gains taxes triggered by the transaction. That will likely save Paulson several million dollars in the next few years. And when your annual salary is falling from $35 million to $183,000, every penny counts. The blind trust would also give Paulson an excuse to dump all his Goldman shares at once and diversify, just as things are getting choppy—something he couldn't do if he stayed on the job.

Once he sells, Paulson—or whoever will manage his blind trust—will have a new problem. In order to qualify for the certificate of divestiture, the cash must be invested in a diversified fund, such as a stock mutual fund. But Paulson's portfolio is so large that it doesn't make sense to put it into a mutual fund, or even into a whole bunch of funds. A nest egg of this size should be broadly diversified—some real estate and a few hedge funds, a few private equity funds, commodities, stocks from all over the world, a private island or two. And of course, all of these have the potential to be affected by Paulson's actions while he is in office.

Given recent activities in Washington, the notion of suggesting that we make exceptions to ethics rules seems highly dangerous. But here's a bold idea: Maybe we should just let Paulson keep his shares. That would be the simplest and least costly thing to do—for him and for the government. The transparency provided by Goldman's daily trading would act as a great inhibitor to favoritism.

What's the worst thing that could happen if Paulson held on to his Goldman stock? It's possible that a government in which the treasury secretary had a gigantic stake in Goldman might recklessly cut marginal income taxes on the very rich so that he and his fellow executives could keep more of their bonuses. Or he might push to cut income taxes on capital gains and dividends so that Goldman employees and clients would pay fewer taxes. He could help enact legislation to reduce and ultimately eliminate the estate tax so Goldman's private banking clients would be able to pass on as much cash to their heirs as they want. Why, such an administration might run up massive deficits so that the bond desks of Wall Street firms like Goldman would have plenty of material to buy and sell! Oh, wait—the Bush administration has already done all that.
 
Congress votes to Rein-in Credit Card Fees & Interest Rates

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McClatchy Newspapers
By Tony Pugh
Tuesday, September 23, 2008



WASHINGTON — Over the objection of the White House, the House of Representatives on Tuesday overwhelmingly passed legislation to curb what its sponsors regard as abuses and unfair practices in the credit-card industry.

By a vote of 312-112, The Credit Cardholders Bill of Rights Act sailed through the House amid a new political climate of increased regulation and oversight of the credit and finance industry.

However, the legislation faces an unclear future in the Senate, where members are focused on crafting and passing the financial bailout. The White House is seeking quick passage of the Wall Street rescue measure before Congress adjourns on Friday, which would make action on the credit-card legislation unlikely in the near future.

Travis Plunkett, legislative director of the Consumer Federation of America, said he hasn't given up hope, however.

"We urge the Senate to include credit-card reform as part of legislation it passes to rescue banking firms," Plunkett said. "Cash-strapped consumers shouldn't continue to be gouged by excessive credit-card rates and fees by many of the same financial institutions that will benefit from the bailout."

The Credit Card Bill of Rights, sponsored by Democratic Reps. Carolyn Maloney of New York and Barney Frank of Massachusetts, would curtail certain practices such as upfront fees on subprime credit cards; interest-rate increases on existing card balances; steering payments to card balances with lower interest rates and charging late fees on payments mailed at least a week before the due date.

Maloney hailed the bill's passage as a much-needed response to consumer suffering in the troubled economy.

"Amidst the financial turmoil on Wall Street, today the House took steps to help those on Main Street. This historic legislation will help working families who face their own credit crunch as a result of what the Federal Reserve itself calls 'unfair,' 'deceptive' and 'anti-competitive' credit-card practices," Maloney said.

The legislation is similar to many of the recommendations that the Federal Reserve has suggested to clean up abusive practices in the credit-card industry. Those proposals, which have sparked a record number of public comments, are expected to be finalized in December.

House Republicans have cited the pending regulatory actions as a main reason for opposing the legislation.

In a statement, the White House said the bill would also make credit more expensive for some borrowers and harder to get for others because it would hamper card issuers' ability to set prices based on borrower risk.

Some of the nation's largest credit-card companies expressed similar concerns.

"We are very concerned that this bill would significantly hinder our ability to price the risks of lending and would result in less credit being made available to creditworthy borrowers at the worst possible time, with generally higher prices for those who do receive credit," said Betty Reiss, a spokeswoman for Bank of America.

Stephanie Jacobson, first vice president for public affairs at Chase Card Services, said she too was disappointed in the vote.

"In today's turbulent economic times, consumers deserve a careful and balanced approach when considering potential changes to consumer credit and the credit-card industry. Consumers have benefited from a competitive marketplace that allows for pricing based upon risk," Jacobson said.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/52977.html
 
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TO,

First off, if you understood the story, you would see that GS was not losing money, but was suffering from a run on it. It's underlying investments were not threatened. Also, they are actually strengthening thier position by continuing to avail themselves the discout window rates that the Fed is going to close to investment banks in a few months.

Second, show a loss of money. That is the ONLY way you could discredit my stance. Until then, I am still right. I know you hate that, which is why you bounce all over the place and refuse to meet head up on anything, but that is reality.

Third, and this is minor. In you rush of (self)righteous indignation, you posted what may by the WORST attempt at a sentance I've yet to see on this board. While I know I am not a spelling maven, please at least try to make a coherent statement.


Those fools knew what was about to happen to their criminal enterprises. They ran to the government to prevent the natural market forces from acting on them just the way they act on others. "Please government I need your protection because I am making money in the system, now the system is turning and I need to be under commercial band government protection so i can keep making money". You of all people need to shut your your hypocritical ass up, ranting about how those that lost there homes because they didn't read their contracts should live in the world of winners and losers, now are making excuses for billionaires. No, not self righteous, just RIGHT!
 
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Those fools knew what was about to happen to their criminal enterprises. They ran to the government to prevent the natural market forces from acting on them just the way they act on others. "Please government I need your protection because I am making money in the system, now the system is turning and I need to be under commercial band government protection so i can keep making money". You of all people need to shut your your hypocritical ass up, ranting about how those that lost there homes because they didn't read their contracts should live in the world of winners and losers, now are making excuses for billionaires. No, not self righteous, just RIGHT!

As usual, you rely on hysterics. You once again have not addressed any challenges I made, but instead merely rant. When you learn how to answer an inquiry, let me know. You are also wrong, but why worry about that.
 
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As usual, you rely on hysterics. You once again have not addressed any challenges I made, but instead merely rant. When you learn how to answer an inquiry, let me know. You are also wrong, but why worry about that.

You have been exposed mister free marketer.
 
From my perspective, you're either part of the problem or you're part of the solution, Repost this in other forums, blogs, everything! This is one excerpt from the site but check it out!

www.goldmansachs666.com

NOTE: When I read this piece on Market Watch, I asked myself why the SEC, FDIC, FBI, CIA, MI6, DGSE and Secret Service haven't done a thing to uncover the stinky-stink at Goldman Sachs and how it has placed their stinky-stink in just about every country on the planet. It's like a science fiction movie with the Evil Genius planting a timed virus throughout the world.

Government Sachs Is In Control
Commentary: Investment bank has strengthened its position through bailout by David Weidner on Market Watch

Lloyd Blankfein must be the luckiest guy on Wall Street. He leads one of the Street's biggest bailed-out firms, but unlike other companies propped up by taxpayers . . .

. . .

Since the fall of Bear Stearns Cos. a little more than a year ago, Goldman has taken more than $20 billion in taxpayer cash through loans, payments and backstops. Goldman's latest bailout coup was a $12.5 billion paid out of AIG's $180 billion government cash infusion.

Until it was fully extricated, Goldman always characterized its exposure to AIG as "immaterial," and that its $20 billion notional exposure to AIG was hedged. Turns out that it was -- through government bailouts that didn't exist when Goldman entered the contracts.

. . .

Even former New York Luv Guv Eliot Spitzer told journalist Fareed Zakaria on Sunday that he thinks something smells.

"The web between AIG and Goldman Sachs is something that should be pursued," Spitzer said. "Why did [those payments] happen, what questions were asked, why did we need to pay 100 cents on the dollar for those transactions if we had to pay anything, what would have happened to the financial system had it not been paid?"
 
Goldman Sachs Full of Shit. . . . . .Again

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Re: Goldman Sachs Rakes In Profit in Credit Crisis

Where is Fuckallyall on this subject or is he the same poster with a different user name? Either way he has been exposed.
 
Goldman Sachs engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depression

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Re: Goldman Sachs engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depressi

You beat me to that one, I just got done checkiin this article out on another site. So, what are your Thoughts?
 
Re: Goldman Sachs engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depressi

You beat me to that one, I just got done checkiin this article out on another site. So, what are your Thoughts?

Is there a better reason to have totally publicly funded elections?
 
Re: Goldman Sachs engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depressi

Thought do you have any other articles related to this one or a pattern of history in relation to this one. This sounds interesting.
 
Re: Goldman Sachs engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depressi

Thought do you have any other articles related to this one or a pattern of history in relation to this one. This sounds interesting.

You search them out! Expand your views.
 
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