ESPN Reporting Nets and Magic are talking trade

[killa kadafi191]

how can they afford three max players tho?

i thought this new cba killed that shit

They killed u signing not trading

Again people asking about picks ask about lopez

This deal doesn't happen with out brook lopez. He is the key.

The new cba killed signing three max players. It didn't kill trading. Thing about this lopez actually has to agree to go along

 

[c_commander]

Restricted free agent.

Chris Kaman had three teams make offers to him

Bulls back center two

Hibbert two

Lopez 0?????

Nawwwwwww a center that score 20 pts a gm gets no calls?? Not buying it. Plus he is going to help the nets get his replacement??? Nawww

Bullshit

This works if he likes the idea of playing & living in Florida. He is restricted so unless he is willing to sign an offer sheet. As a competitor I'd make an offer just to throw the trade off. The only thing would be if he's getting a good deal out of this.

 

[alexw]

They killed u signing not trading

Again people asking about picks ask about lopez

This deal doesn't happen with out brook lopez. He is the key.

The new cba killed signing three max players. It didn't kill trading. Thing about this lopez actually has to agree to go along

now this makes perfect sense

 

[Complex]

I hope Gerald Green goes to Miami

Why would he play for the minimum. He's going to the team that pays the most, because of all the money he's missed out on.

 

[awill96]

Luxury Tax Basics: For 2011-12 the league and players association agreed to use a figure of $70.307 million for the tax level. For 2011-12 and 2012-13, teams pay $1 for every $1 their team salary exceeds the tax level.

For an owner worth $13.2 Billion and the Lakers, the most valuable team in the NBA "only" being worth $900million, its safe to assume that either the Nets are just a shiny new toy for Proky and he's willing to spend whatever it takes for the toy to win or he's assuming that spending whatever it takes early on will get the Nets who are currently worth $357 million to that Knicks/Lakers levels by being in Brooklyn with a superstar team.

 

[Complex]

The new CBA didn't kick in yet

Stern killed that lakers trade for Chris Paul he wouldn't killed it if it were the Knicks

Look at Miami the owner will pay the luxury tax to keep the big 3 core

He got a 100mill network deal in the works with fox sun sports

That 45 mill luxury tax ain't coming out of his pocket

The nets owner will do the same thing

Big market teams benefit from the tv deals

If anything that cba is fucking up small market teams

Do owners get in it to lose money? And the luxury cap fee starts going up and it cuts in to your mid level. You can only offer 3, and other teams can offer 5. Most players aren't Udonis Haslem.

That Joe Johnson deal is terrible. They're going to be paying a 34 year old Joe Johnson over 20 mil. I say 3 years, because after three they might be able to trade him.

I think Lin gonna bounce and get that money unless the Knicks willing to overpay him

Which they might not cause they want Nash lol

I would overpay, because of the asians and marketing.

They have no money for Nash, Toronto is offering 12 mil a year. Now it's all up to him, ring, comfort or money.

 

[sinsay]

Man, when you get a chance to get the best center in the game, you do it...especially when he cost isjust spare parts and draft picks that are likely to be in the high 20's.

A Nets squad with DWill, JJ, Wallace and Howard is a top 3ish team in the east. They should try and get Crawford for the full MLE for the bench. They likely will struggle some this year due to the lack of a bench and chemistry, but it will get better in year 2...similar to what Miami went through in year 1.

 

[daman200]

Hoping the magic get Bynum and all of houston picks. But hey this would be great for Brooklyn.

 

[playahaitian]

sidebar: this dude Brossaurd SWORE on national TV that this deal was dead...

numerous times.

Just saying

 

[Nemesis Prime]

sidebar: this dude Brossaurd SWORE on national TV that this deal was dead...

numerous times.

Just saying

he's on Mike and Mike in about 3 minutes...

 

[playahaitian]

he's on Mike and Mike in about 3 minutes...

oh my lord this cac Greenie just said Lamar Odom is complaining on how he grieved with the death of his cousin and the following death he was involved in NY with the car accident ...

let's see if the black audience and and NBA fans respond to this

watch he get a pass...

 

[ugk]

Lol is Brooklyn trying to outdo New York for worst fucking trade of the decade?

 

[Mask]

Update
Dwight Howard Trade Rumors: Magic Trying To Involve Hawks, Rockets, Lakers And Mavs

The Dwight Howard trade rumors are not going anywhere any time soon, friends. Just a couple of hours after news broke that there was a a chance of the Orlando Magic All-Star still going to Brooklyn, the latest reports indicate that there are still quite a few teams that might get involved before anything concrete occurs.

Aside from the Nets, the Magic are also still trying to rope the Atlanta Hawks, Houston Rockets, Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks into trade talks, according to CBS Sports' Ken Berger. Accompanying that news, Berger also points out the obvious by saying that Howard to the Nets certainly is not "imminent."

In all honestly, it doesn't seem like anything is imminent regarding the Howard situation. The new Magic front office is smartly trying to get the best deal it can by involving so many teams in potential trade talks, but considering Howard has been on the market as long as he has, how much can their offers really change?

 

[Mask]

i think the Hawks might win this with some help, think they're looking for a new owner and shit....but that Nets trade is insane when Brook and Kris are free agents

 

[Mask]

Update
Dwight Howard Trade Could Involve A Third Team Taking On Kris Humphries

Dwight Howard trade rumors are going nowhere fast, obviously, but things seem to be picking up considerably. Tuesday morning has already included reports that the Nets are still involved and that the Orlando Magic are trying to involve five other NBA teams, but now it seems that lesser parameters are falling in to place as well.

For instance, if Brooklyn ends up actually trading for Howard, that deal will need to clear quite a bit of space off of the Nets payroll. For this to happen, apparently, the Nets will have to find a third team to take part in the deal -- a team that's interested in acquiring the services of former Kardashian husband Kris Humphries.

Humphries likely won't become the hold up in this deal unless he's looking for an exorbitant salary -- he made $8 million last season -- and it's probably actually a good thing that this deal seems far enough long that it's already worth looking at what needs to happen with the lesser pieces for a trade to actually be consummated.

Adrian Wojnarowski
@WojYahooNBA

For Nets-Magic to progress on a Dwight Howard deal, a 3rd team needed to take Kris Humphries in a sign-and-trade, league source tells Y!

 

[Amajorfucup]

Picks wouldn't be worth shit anyway..

I'm questioning how u get brook lopez to agree to this? This only happens with his blessing

Got dam nigga. Because he played 5 games last year, shoots under 50% despite playing under the basket, has injury concerns, is a terrible rebounder, and has never played on a team that won more than 20games a year. Fuck you think this nigga is Tim Duncan? Stop acting shocked that nobody is falling over themselves to take this weird bastard.

 

[BDR]

Got dam nigga. Because he played 5 games last year, shoots under 50% despite playing under the basket, has injury concerns, is a terrible rebounder, and has never played on a team that won more than 20games a year. Fuck you think this nigga is Tim Duncan? Stop acting shocked that nobody is falling over themselves to take this weird bastard.

Damn

 

[shaddyvillethug]

DMV fans >>>>>

 

[killa kadafi191]

Got dam nigga. Because he played 5 games last year, shoots under 50% despite playing under the basket, has injury concerns, is a terrible rebounder, and has never played on a team that won more than 20games a year. Fuck you think this nigga is Tim Duncan? Stop acting shocked that nobody is falling over themselves to take this weird bastard.

You say all that but why is Orlando trying to make a deal and do I really need to post how much the average center makes.

Hell how about I post how much Bogut I ain't never healthy ass makes. U said all that but proves my point. Why is orlando even talking with nets

This is a league where Andreis injured ass got paid. If u don't know don't speak because shit u said makes no sense

 

[Amajorfucup]

You say all that but why is Orlando trying to make a deal and do I really need to post how much the average center makes.

Hell how about I post how much Bogut I ain't never healthy ass makes. U said all that but proves my point. Why is orlando even talking with nets

This is a league where Andreis injured ass got paid. If u don't know don't speak because shit u said makes no sense

Orlando is (allegedly) trying to make the deal because NOBODY else will give them remotely what they will get from NJ. Your owner just took on THE worst contract in the nba for christ sakes and everyone knows they have an immense hard-on for the Howard, thats the type of guy you want to make a deal with when you're in a bind. He's outbidding himself at this point for Dwight (which i dont really have issue with because frankly he's worth it despite his bitch like ways) for why wouldnt they make that deal?

And say all you want about my reasoning but its far more plausible and rational based than your constant questioning of why nobody wants him while insinuating that the Russian mob is holding him hostage or paying him off with a bag of cash.

 

[Mask]

You say all that but why is Orlando trying to make a deal and do I really need to post how much the average center makes.

Hell how about I post how much Bogut I ain't never healthy ass makes. U said all that but proves my point. Why is orlando even talking with nets

This is a league where Andreis injured ass got paid. If u don't know don't speak because shit u said makes no sense

Andrew Bogut is signed for 5 years / $60 million with the Golden State Warriors. He is making $13 million in 2012

Staying healthy has been Bogut’s problem. Bogut hasn’t played more than 69 games in a season since 2008. A lower back injury helped limit him to 36 games in 2008-09. Late in the following season, he dislocated his right elbow, broke his right hand and sprained his wrist after falling hard to the floor following a dunk. He has been limited to 12 games this season after breaking his left ankle on Jan. 25 against the Houston Rockets.



Andris Biedrins got two years at $18 million left

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

Yet damn near EVERYBODY had a problem with LeBron taking his destiny into his own hands. INCLUDING D. Howard. smh...

 

[cole256]

Damn

man U a fool

 

[cole256]

What I don't understand is if the owner using his money to pay Lopez and get him the fuck out of there what's the problem?

 

[Mask]

What I don't understand is if the owner using his money to pay Lopez and get him the fuck out of there what's the problem?

some just think he could get a better deal with a new team,

 

[Playa2422004]

dwight still playing the fiddle for the nets huh, and they wanna dump off to the magic b lopez and marshon brooks for dwight.. i dont know about that one

 

[killa kadafi191]

Orlando is (allegedly) trying to make the deal because NOBODY else will give them remotely what they will get from NJ. Your owner just took on THE worst contract in the nba for christ sakes and everyone knows they have an immense hard-on for the Howard, thats the type of guy you want to make a deal with when you're in a bind. He's outbidding himself at this point for Dwight (which i dont really have issue with because frankly he's worth it despite his bitch like ways) for why wouldnt they make that deal?

And say all you want about my reasoning but its far more plausible and rational based than your constant questioning of why nobody wants him while insinuating that the Russian mob is holding him hostage or paying him off with a bag of cash.

So this make senses brook lopez agrees to go to Orlando.

Knowing they would be rebuilding a team that wanted nothing to do with him and only wants him cause they have no choice.

Now according to the new cba rules all lopez has to do is sign an offer sheet and he controls his destiny at least till dec 15.

You mention all of the negatives about lopez and orlando is going to use that to replace dwight howard????

Not happening.

This deal will not happen. Makes no sense for either sides

 

[Amajorfucup]

So this make senses brook lopez agrees to go to Orlando.

Knowing they would be rebuilding a team that wanted nothing to do with him and only wants him cause they have no choice.

Now according to the new cba rules all lopez has to do is sign an offer sheet and he controls his destiny at least till dec 15.

You mention all of the negatives about lopez and orlando is going to use that to replace dwight howard????

Not happening.

This deal will not happen. Makes no sense for either sides

killa, i dont know if it will happen or not. What im saying is that you are acting far too shocked on the Lopez aspect of this deal and your constant commentary on his inclusion in this deal would lead one to think that he is a player in high demand in this league. He is not. He's just a guy, but your posts in this thread paint a picture of a player who (should) has leverage or control over his destiny.

And again, Orlando will take him because no other team will offer a better deal considering Dwights public proclamation of not signing an extension with anyone but the Nets.

Oh, and why does it not make sense for the Nets (other than luxury tax)? They get the play they want in exchange for one promising young player, two average guys, and a handful of late first round picks which historically have been a lot of average to below average players.

 

[gtg305h]

Man yall negroes sitting behind a computer saying you won't do the deal

If they do this deal they are a LOCK as top 4 in the East AND you will be selling tickets. Come on now, put yourself in the position of the GM.

No first round picks will turn into arguably the 2nd best player in the NBA, a three time defensive player of the year and the best center of this generation. Not to mention the first round picks will be LATE first round picks because the Nets will be a good team. Y'all trying to save picks for 2018 when the Nets are a NEW ORGANIZATION THAT NEEDS TO CREATE A BUZZ INSTANTLY. You not doing that shit with draft picks from 2018, and "players with potential". BK has too much invested in this team to rely on potential. They need to win NOW. While they have a legit team in place.

Deron Williams/Jason Kidd
Joe Johnson
Turkoglu/Gerald Green
Gerald Wallace
Dwight Howard

The problem here is that both the Heat and Celtics would run this team off the floor, good luck being the new Atlanta Hawks, a perennial 2nd round and out...you expect Gerald Green to have meaningful minutes in the playoffs? This is not a dunk off...off starting 5 strength, they'll be a 3 or 4 seed, but as the Finals told us, you gotta have those Chalmete, Coles, Millers, etc to win big, they'll be ok, but with 3 max players and Gerald Wallace, no financial flexibility, and no bench, you kidding yourself if you think this team can win a 'chip

 

[actinanass]

The problem here is that both the Heat and Celtics would run this team off the floor, good luck being the new Atlanta Hawks, a perennial 2nd round and out...you expect Gerald Green to have meaningful minutes in the playoffs? This is not a dunk off...off starting 5 strength, they'll be a 3 or 4 seed, but as the Finals told us, you gotta have those Chalmete, Coles, Millers, etc to win big, they'll be ok, but with 3 max players and Gerald Wallace, no financial flexibility, and no bench, you kidding yourself if you think this team can win a 'chip

I hope Deron and Dwight are thinking like this.

 

[BDR]

Yet damn near EVERYBODY had a problem with LeBron taking his destiny into his own hands. INCLUDING D. Howard. smh...

Lebron had a plan

Howard is just plain stupid and didn't

 

[gtg305h]

So this make senses brook lopez agrees to go to Orlando.

Knowing they would be rebuilding a team that wanted nothing to do with him and only wants him cause they have no choice.

Now according to the new cba rules all lopez has to do is sign an offer sheet and he controls his destiny at least till dec 15.

You mention all of the negatives about lopez and orlando is going to use that to replace dwight howard????

Not happening.

This deal will not happen. Makes no sense for either sides

I agree with this, how can you trade the league's 3rd most dominant player for 3 non all stars and some crappy picks? Orlando should at least force Deron to make a decision w/o Dwight on the Nets roster..why would you trade him before Deron has committed to Brooklyn? It's like they gift wrapping the Nets a contender and giving in to Dwight's bitchassness...so, they would end up with no coach, a 30 yr old GM, Brook Lopez and some crappy picks? If I was a Magic fan, I would boycott the team if they did that stupid shit

 

[The Pope]

Whenever the Nets do actually get Howard the whole Eastern Conference will be shaken up..talent wise I would put the Nets as the 2nd best team right behind Miami, I know a lot of folks be shitting on Joe Johnson(self included) but in Brooklyn he wouldn't have to worry about being the no.1 option like he was in Atlanta and I bet he would have a monster season knowing he wasn't option 1​

 

[Mask]

I agree with this, how can you trade the league's 3rd most dominant player for 3 non all stars and some crappy picks? Orlando should at least force Deron to make a decision w/o Dwight on the Nets roster..why would you trade him before Deron has committed to Brooklyn? It's like they gift wrapping the Nets a contender and giving in to Dwight's bitchassness...so, they would end up with no coach, a 30 yr old GM, Brook Lopez and some crappy picks? If I was a Magic fan, I would boycott the team if they did that stupid shit

pretty much

 

[Better]

What a difference a little time makes.

In hindsight, I see 'The Decision' as a little self-aggrandizing. Dwight, on the other hand, needs far GREATER backlash than Lebron received from 'The Decision'.

It's almost like I can't take Dwight seriously as a man, 'cause I don't know any self-respecting many who'd drag out bullshit as long as this dude has with his organization.

This is attention-whoring to an unprecedented degree. I was going to say 'stupid' to an unprecedented degree, but I recall Sprewell turning down about 4 mil a year 'cause he 'can't feed his children off of that'.

Where the fuck did that nigga shop for groceries?