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ESPN RANKS TOP 10 POINT GUARDS OF ALL TIME (Bullshit list!)
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You go to the chargers. Thats how. Theres a reason Eli and his daddy told them to fuck off.
Whats Iverson have to do with this?
No. And im not sure you do either.
Don't matter
He got guarded by all 3rd stringers
Did he play Westbrook?
Tony parker?
Chris Paul?
Dame?
thats still laughable for one of the top 10 pgs of all time
Acknowledging he was surrounded by nothing is a terrible argument? Kidd, Zeke, and Curry all had better players... Further, and more importantly, they are on the list and no one is saying Paul should be there and they should not so im not sure whats the point of bringing them up.
What finals was he getting to playing in a division with Duncan and conference with prime Kobe and co. ? He took a laughable NO squad the distance against a Spurs title team.
When did Chandler and West become stars or great players? Go look at West number post Paul. Then look at the Clippers record before and with Paul.
Hes top ten. Period.
he has played with all stars his entire career, yet he does nothing
you cant say he played with nothing when he and his teammates were in the all star games together or when he is currently playing with the best pf in the game with a loaded deep roster
and his competition is a very weak argument
again....great pg lead their teams to victory
hell chauncey billups led his team to beat the heavily favored lakers
yet paul can barely get out the first round?
im not buying it man
Doesn't matter, everybody in his draft class is better and has rings
Just like Wade, bosh, lebron have rings and melo doesn't
Iverson didn't have teammates and took la fitness players to the NBA finals
Wake me up when chris Paul is in a conference finals let alone a NBA finals
WITH doc rivers as his coach
Al Horford was an all star. It really means nothing bro. Kobe Bryant is lead vote getter currently. Pauls cast was JAGs.. West hasnt sniffed an all star since him and only went once on a fluke year when other guys were injured.
Billups played in the East. Got a good draw, and went against a divided laker team that Kobe shot out the series. Anecdotal.
Name 10 better.
yeah i forgot about that, bro
dude even has one of the best coaches in the game
no way this mofo is top 10 anything
what would have that done? last year he did 34 pts, 9 last, and 7 reb against westbrook
25 pts, 11 last against parker
and dropped 27 on paul. won every game too.
no one in the league can stop him.
Still tryna figure out why you keep mentioning Iverson. As if i ever mentioned the guy or said Paul was better.
Here, ill make this easier for you..
Just name 10 better.
Gary Payton and Tony Parker should have made it into the Top 10. (Ahead of Chris Paul and Steph Curry.)
You don't put The Glove behind Steph Curry when he is a 9x All-Star, has the same number of championship rings as Curry, plus 9x All-Defensive Team and won Defensive Player of the Year while playing 'ironman-level' minutes in over 350+ consecutive games... TWICE.
He may get there when his career is all said and done, no doubt... but it's just too early to put Steph in the Top 10 right now.
But Tony Parker should be in the Top 10 conversation with 5 rings on his fingers, since he was the starting PG for all of those titles.
You don't put The Glove behind Steph Curry when he is a 9x All-Star, has the same number of championship rings as Curry, plus 9x All-Defensive Team and won Defensive Player of the Year while playing 'ironman-level' minutes in over 350+ consecutive games... TWICE.
He may get there when his career is all said and done, no doubt... but it's just too early to put Steph in the Top 10 right now.
But Tony Parker should be in the Top 10 conversation with 5 rings on his fingers, since he was the starting PG for all of those titles.
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name 10 better is easy
in no order
tony parker
big o
KJ
zeke
steph
kidd
magic
westbrook
peyton
tim hardaway
anfernee hardaway
stockton
clyde
oscar
baron davis
hell he's not even in my top 15
Please don't put Chauncey Billups and chris Paul in the same sentence
All I gotta do is take him out the list and add in Chauncey billups
That's ten right there.
name 10 pgs better than chris Paul?
All I gotta do is take him out the list and add in Chauncey billups
That's ten right there.
Gary Payton should be swapped for Paul
That shit is laughable
That shit is laughable
Steph already? Seriously?
I noticed it's been a talking point lately with very little substance behind it.
Look at the Clippers without Blake. Hell look at New Orleans. Compare them now with Anthony Davis, everyones favorite and what they were like with CP3.
I noticed it's been a talking point lately with very little substance behind it.
Look at the Clippers without Blake. Hell look at New Orleans. Compare them now with Anthony Davis, everyones favorite and what they were like with CP3.
Nah fam, im not putting Baron Davis over CP; Also not putting Hardaway over CP; Are they considering Westbrook a sg like Iverson?; Also im not sure how GP isnt on the list; Im taking him over Nash any day...
Despite the list being absurdly over inclusive and horseshit on its face... the fact that you put Penny in there really discredits any discussions you have on this matter going forward.
If anyone else has a serious top 10 in here tho.
Jason Kidd is not better than the nba all-time assist leader - John Stockton.
And No way in hell is Curry better than Gary Payton.
He may shoot 3's much better... But his defense & overall durability is not even close to the Glove.
They have the same number of rings... But Gary is a 9x all star, and a 9x 1st team all-defense player.
dude i gave you 15 names
take those 2 off and you still have 13 better than cp3s overrated ass
Curry if his career ended today would not be on the list but another ring or two and he catapults up my list. Right now he's not on there but I agree he is probably better than 7-10 but I think you underrate Payton too much. Payton made Jordan struggle in the finals when he guarded him.
Kidd on no planet is fucking with Zeke. I can see the argument about taking Stockton's spot but not Zeke's. I can see an argument for Zeke challenging Oscar for #2.
What PG in recent memory you knew who was unguardable? I saw everyone on that list play except the Big O
Curry is 10 top for sure..
JasonKidd is not better than the nba all-time assist leader - John Stockton.
And No way in hell is Curry better than Gary Payton.
He may shoot 3's much better... But his defense & overall durability is not even close to the Glove.
They have the same number of rings... But Gary is a 9x all star, and a 9x 1st team all-defense player.
Funny Stockton had a GOAT top 50 player playing with him who did Kidd have to come close to post Malone?
curry has to play 6 or 7 more years at this level to join that list
we cant list him as an all time great when he has only played two outstanding seasons
I know what my eyes see... That kid is controlling the game.. Literally.. Last mofo to control a game was MJ... The kid is on his way but as far as top PGs numbers aside Curry is top 10 all time..
I don't use that all time label loosely
You looking at the numbers.. Look at his play on the court.. The kid ain't no fluke
One could argue that all of Stockton's assists helped ALOT to make Malone a Top 50 player.
All depends on how you look at it, now doesn't it?
Baron and penny didn't stay healthy long enough IMO to be better than Paul. Westbrook and Steph needs a few more years but honestly both are better than him right now and have been for probably the last three years. I don't think KJ was better than Paul. Pistol Pete I could see and Tiny Archibald I could see. Deron Williams at one time was better but not now.
No particular order:
Magic
Oscar
GP
Zeke
Stockton
Kidd
Frazier
Cousey
Curry
Tiny Archibald
Honorable Mention: D Harper, Mark Jackson, KJ, Nash, Paul, T Hardaway, M Cheeks, Dennis Johnson,
Now if Westbrook and Iverson are considered pgs, then the list changes...
If he finishes this season like he started it I think he can sneak on to the list somewhere but he needs IMO 2 more years after this one to solidify his spot.
not yet. no order
zeke
magic
stockton
payton
kidd
big o
west
parker
frazier
kj/tiny
West is considered a sg; Curry is better than KJ not even close; Hes better than parker by far...
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