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Hmmm. Does anyone know whether there is a poll out there on whether the African Americans who dislike Oprah are many the same ones who dislike Obama ???
QueEx
It really doesn’t matter to me if Opra is pushing Obama. My biggest gripe is that people feel that because I’m black, I’m voting for Obama. There’s nothing further from the truth!!
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I'm guessing here but generally speaking when it comes to Oprah and the reasons the Obama campaign welcomes her support is how she would impact black women AND women voters. You made no such distinction in your question.
Having said that, I would assume some of those who don't care for Oprah won't care for much for what she cares about but at the same time, most black woman are able to seperate those they respect from those they don't. Just going on personal observation. [1] Why do you ask about such a poll? [2] Do you assume african americans are that monolithic?
-VG
[1] Simply curiousity, VG.
[2] On the contrary; we are quite diverse with an amalgam of opinions/views.
QueEx
It's what I figured QueEx. If I run onto something, I'll make sure I drop it here.
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-VG
Oprah-Obama event a 'publicity stunt,'
black Edwards supporters say
By James Rosen | McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Friday, December 7, 2007
WASHINGTON — Prominent African-American supporters of John Edwards accused Barack Obama on Friday of performing a "publicity stunt" by bringing Oprah Winfrey to South Carolina and other early presidential primary states, saying that blacks won't vote for Obama just because of his race.
Winfrey, the billionaire TV star, was scheduled to campaign with Obama in Iowa on Saturday, South Carolina on Sunday and New Hampshire on Sunday night.
"John Edwards has committed himself to making rural communities' infrastructure a priority rather than have a celebrity come in," said South Carolina state Rep. Leon Howard. "It's insulting for anyone to think that African-Americans are automatically onboard with Barack Obama."
Candice Tolliver, a spokeswoman for Obama, said the Illinois senator welcomes Winfrey's high-voltage support.
"Oprah has universal appeal," Tolliver said. "She's earned a tremendous amount of respect not only here in the United States, but around the globe. It's fantastic that she has endorsed Senator Obama for president."
Tens of thousands of people are expected to attend Obama's rally with Winfrey in Columbia, S.C. Demand was so high that the Obama campaign changed the venue from an 18,000-seat indoor arena to an 80,000-seat football stadium.
Connie Johnson, a black legislator from Missouri, said Edwards is the only White House candidate talking about poverty, health care disparities and other issues of concern to African-Americans.
Competition for black supporters is especially keen in South Carolina, where African-Americans are projected to make up almost half the voters in the Jan. 26 Democratic primary.
Edwards, the former U.S. senator from North Carolina, was born in Seneca, S.C., and won the state's 2004 Democratic presidential primary on his way to becoming Sen. John Kerry's running mate.
Edwards, though, is having trouble catching fire in South Carolina this time. While the contest for the Jan. 3 Iowa caucus voters is a virtual dead heat among the top three Democratic candidates, Edwards trails New York Sen. Hillary Clinton and Obama by significant margins in South Carolina, according to a Rasmussen poll released Thursday.
Clinton leads in South Carolina with 36 percent support among likely voters, the poll showed. Obama had 34 percent and Edwards claimed 13 percent.
Black legislators in South Carolina said Friday that Edwards would emerge victorious.
"We feel that when the dust settles, people are going to come to Edwards because they believe that he can win," said state Rep. William Clyburn.
Linda Dorgan, an African-American member of the Spartanburg City Council, dismissed Winfrey's appearances for Obama with pointed criticism.
"Don't come to me with someone who has more money than anybody," Dorgan said. "We (Edwards supporters) don't need to do publicity stunts."
Referring to Winfrey's extensive charity work in Africa, Dorgan added: "If you build a school in Africa, come and build one in South Carolina."
Edwards has struggled to match the high-profile endorsements of Clinton and Obama by black politicians, entertainers and other celebrities.
President Clinton, still hugely popular with African-Americans, addressed 2,600 cheering delegates in May on behalf of his wife at the annual gala of the NAACP in South Carolina.
Retired NBA legend Magic Johnson, musician Quincy Jones and Bob Johnson, founder of the Black Entertainment Network, are among the prominent blacks backing Hillary Clinton for president.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson, actors Sidney Poitier and Will Smith, and musician Stevie Wonder have joined Winfrey and other influential African-Americans in supporting Obama.
Clinton and Obama each have a dozen or more backers in the Congressional Black Caucus.
Rep. Jim Clyburn, a South Carolina Democrat and the highest-ranking African-American lawmaker in the U.S. House, has declined to endorse any White House candidate from his party.
McClatchy Newspapers 2007
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/104/story/22768.html
Caroline Kennedy said:Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that together we can do great things. In those rare moments, when such a person comes along, we need to put aside our plans and reach for what we know is possible.
if Teddy joins her its a wrap
dem royalty has spoken
if Teddy joins her its a wrap
dem royalty has spoken
. . . did somebody say, "Abandon Ship!" ?
QueEx
. . . did somebody say, "Abandon Ship!" ?
QueEx
I don't think Obama is really a hawk. I do think, however, that Obama is a pragmatist who realizes that being soft on defense has been a thorn in the democrats side for quite some time; and, considering the times in which we live (forget Iraq; there is still A.Q., and others), if a democrat wants to be the next president, he/she can't <u>appear</u> or <u>be</u> weak on defense. If there is a weakness (or a perceived weakness), it will send a message to many voters who might otherwise pull their ticket; and it will send the wrong message, IMO, to A.Q., other parties in the Middle East, South Asia, the Chinese and the Russians.
Assuming underneath it all Obama prefers dialogue and compassion; you can't successfully have either from a position of weakness. Its like having a gun but nobody believes or fears you will shoot; you probably won't or if you do you'll use it in the wrong situation just to prove em wrong.![]()
QueEx