Drake caps back at Pusha T

because most of these artists want to be famous... you don't get that without paying the gatekeepers

there a lot of artists making +7 figures doing direct sales touring +/- 2000 seat venues and festivals but they aren't famous
The only reason Mac Miller and Macklmore are known are because they cut in the gatekeepers - but both were very well off before any fame
look at Odd Future pre Universal distribution deal
I get why he initially signed. The question is why is he still signed is what i'm asking. Why is he not indie?Why does he not have his own indie label without WB getting a cut of his sales?Why do I need a distribution deal when all my album sales are coming from streaming services?
YUP

why do you think after the examples of Master P Cash Money Tony Draper and especially Tech 9

that MORE rappers afterward did NOT pursue more independent deals

ESPECIALLY since there was STILL money to be maid?

Tech 9 laid the blueprint. Everyone not built to be a real CEO. I get it. But I do not understand why the most relevant artists in the game like the Taylor Swifts and the Drake's aren't signed to themselves.

I know its hard work. But its hard work that people like Tech 9 does.
 
YUP

why do you think after the examples of Master P Cash Money Tony Draper and especially Tech 9

that MORE rappers afterward did NOT pursue more independent deals

ESPECIALLY since there was STILL money to be maid?
because its hard as fuck

Easy E was killed
the industry tag teamed Master P out the game
Cash Money has always baisically been Universal
and no one seeking fame wants to be like Tech9
 
I get why he initially signed. The question is why is he still signed is what i'm asking. Why is he not indie?Why does he not have his own indie label without WB getting a cut of his sales?Why do I need a distribution deal when all my album sales are coming from streaming services?


Tech 9 laid the blueprint. Everyone not built to be a real CEO. I get it. But I do not understand why the most relevant artists in the game like the Taylor Swifts and the Drake's aren't signed to themselves.

I know its hard work. But its hard work that people like Tech 9 does.
Gatekeepers

Those contracts have terms. Can't just get out of them with a finger snap because you can do it on your own now. Gotta fulfill those obligations.

You wanna buck, the system is built to discourage that.

Most cats had to sign those deals to get on like they are. The game was decidedly different just 10 years ago.
 
because its hard as fuck

Easy E was killed
the industry tag teamed Master P out the game
Cash Money has always baisically been Universal
and no one seeking fame wants to be like Tech9

Wait wait wait...

So you DO BELIEVE Easy E was murdered?

How come NO ONE ever talks about the Master P thing? Instead they claim he over saturated the market with music
(which is funny NOW because flooded the market with music is pretty much the standard game plan)

the Cash Money thing always confused me, I KNEW it wasn't REALLY indy but I couldn't understand how they deal was considered so unique?

but Tech 9 IS famous to me! YOU CANNOT sell that MUCH music , tickets and merchandise for YEARS and NOT be FAMOUS...right?
 
Gatekeepers

Those contracts have terms. Can't just get out of them with a finger snap because you can do it on your own now. Gotta fulfill those obligations.

You wanna buck, the system is built to discourage that.

Most cats had to sign those deals to get on like they are. The game was decidedly different just 10 years ago.

that is why as much as I dislike these rainbow haired rappers?

I gotta respect they hustle game, making millions off youtube twitter soundcloud and instagram

basically GIVING AWAY music.
 
that is why as much as I dislike these rainbow haired rappers?

I gotta respect they hustle game, making millions off youtube twitter soundcloud and instagram

basically GIVING AWAY music.
Yeah the model is different now

Ten years ago it was give it away but the wrong way

Niggas was making 4 and 5 mixtapes a year, giving away 60-100 songs hoping to get it back in show money and buzz for eventual release of real albums.

The move now is promote a song at a time, because that's how the public consumes music. It's funny because ironically, it actually cuts down on the amount of filler out here.

And you don't really NEED help from majors to do it.

Thing is, eventually you still run into people you need who already have relationships established with the people you're trying to get around, so you can hardly make it to the promised land without cutting somebody in. But hey, that's the game.
 
Tech 9 laid the blueprint. Everyone not built to be a real CEO. I get it. But I do not understand why the most relevant artists in the game like the Taylor Swifts and the Drake's aren't signed to themselves.
because once you leave the belly of the beast - say good buy to fame and access
indy Taylor Swift is not getting on SNL or invited to Hollywood or Cannes
indy Taylor Swift means no commercials no cover girl cosmetics no fashion lines etc

in pop culture:
indy Drake becomes dog food any time a rapper like Meek Mills puts reference tracks on front street
indy Drake's name becomes mud in the pop charts and would get sonned on a diss track from Bieber Derulo & Diddy
(real talk I don't think Drake's contracts have real end dates anymore- so he might not be able to leave YMCMB)

indy = possibly rich
indy = no fame no access
I get why he initially signed. The question is why is he still signed is what i'm asking. Why is he not indie?Why does he not have his own indie label without WB getting a cut of his sales?Why do I need a distribution deal when all my album sales are coming from streaming services?
Drake has a 360 contract with YMCMB... (note: so far NO ONE except Cash Money has been paid off of that deal)
my educated guess:
The only way Drake was able to start OVO and release his one album on that imprint, was to renegotiate his contract with Baby to get the clearance... the only way for that to work was
1. a very large amount of up front money to pay Baby - and additional albums tacked on to contract
2. which meant OVO had to be commercially viable with full industry support- to repay the advance
3. Drake needed protection or a conduit to get paid from OVO with out Baby taking a huge cut

a distribution deal with a major is the only way that works out
 
Wait wait wait...

So you DO BELIEVE Easy E was murdered?

How come NO ONE ever talks about the Master P thing? Instead they claim he over saturated the market with music
(which is funny NOW because flooded the market with music is pretty much the standard game plan)

the Cash Money thing always confused me, I KNEW it wasn't REALLY indy but I couldn't understand how they deal was considered so unique?

but Tech 9 IS famous to me! YOU CANNOT sell that MUCH music , tickets and merchandise for YEARS and NOT be FAMOUS...right?
it unique because of the very generous financial terms Universal / Republic gave Cash Money
How did Cashmoney Records get a 90/10 Distribution Deal?

As for Tech9 - he has a loyal fan base - but because he isn't plugged in his fans are often unaware of what he is doing to be able to fully support him
atleast that was his situation 4 years ago...
 
Gatekeepers

Those contracts have terms. Can't just get out of them with a finger snap because you can do it on your own now. Gotta fulfill those obligations.

You wanna buck, the system is built to discourage that.

Most cats had to sign those deals to get on like they are. The game was decidedly different just 10 years ago.
Yeah but
Gatekeepers

Those contracts have terms. Can't just get out of them with a finger snap because you can do it on your own now. Gotta fulfill those obligations.

You wanna buck, the system is built to discourage that.

Most cats had to sign those deals to get on like they are. The game was decidedly different just 10 years ago.
Yeah but his deal was up wasn't it? I thought his deal was up like two albums ago?
 
because once you leave the belly of the beast - say good buy to fame and access
indy Taylor Swift is not getting on SNL or invited to Hollywood or Cannes
indy Taylor Swift means no commercials no cover girl cosmetics no fashion lines etc

in pop culture:
indy Drake becomes dog food any time a rapper like Meek Mills puts reference tracks on front street
indy Drake's name becomes mud in the pop charts and would get sonned on a diss track from Bieber Derulo & Diddy
(real talk I don't think Drake's contracts have real end dates anymore- so he might not be able to leave YMCMB)

indy = possibly rich
indy = no fame no access

Drake has a 360 contract with YMCMB... (note: so far NO ONE except Cash Money has been paid off of that deal)
my educated guess:
The only way Drake was able to start OVO and release his one album on that imprint, was to renegotiate his contract with Baby to get the clearance... the only way for that to work was
1. a very large amount of up front money to pay Baby - and additional albums tacked on to contract
2. which meant OVO had to be commercially viable with full industry support- to repay the advance
3. Drake needed protection or a conduit to get paid from OVO with out Baby taking a huge cut

a distribution deal with a major is the only way that works out
Real interesting shit right here...
 
Lol

The line about selling nikes and Mercedes to college kids but making it sound like he moved coke w Escobar in the 80's

Ecstasy pills usually have some kind of pop culture logo or clip art style picture embossed or debossed into each pill, kind of a branding thing. So with certain pills, you supposedly knew what you were getting. Nike signs, Mercedes symbols, dolphins on blue pills, etc. were popular in the streets for a time.

The implication from drakes song is that push might have sold some lil party pills to some college kids, but raps like he was this big coke kingpin.

My personal belief is that niggas who was out here moving it like that had no interest in recording and distributing confessions over beats, but hey. I didn't know everybody. Hell, Meech bought a billboard.

Superman triple stacks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
My mouth was open listening to that shit lmaaaaao

Maaaaaad disrespectful nigga fuck lolololol

I think we got a fight on our hands now. I hope this shit is longer than that.

Damn did the nigga shoot at his pops, his moms, AND his kid?? Geezus...
 
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