That would have been a body. Drake knows what he's doing, no reply to Joe Budden neither.
Drake caps back at Pusha T
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Niggas building whole responses on "he don't write" and really extrapolating that to this man's entire catalog and career.
If you gotta lie to hold up your side of the argument, you have no argument.
Somebody qualify the statement "he don't write his own shit." If yall saying it like none of the words he's rapped are his, I'm just curious how yall are qualifying and quantifying that statement. Like what's the list you got access to that supports that claim.
If you gotta lie to hold up your side of the argument, you have no argument.
Somebody qualify the statement "he don't write his own shit." If yall saying it like none of the words he's rapped are his, I'm just curious how yall are qualifying and quantifying that statement. Like what's the list you got access to that supports that claim.
True but times have changed man remember when to be considered and MC you had to know how to rhyme off the dome? Who you know now doing that? Only the OGs can still do that shit..
Cats consider writing rhymes first then reciting them later and calling it a free style
While I understand the ghostwriting argument, I'll take it further than that.
His flow is basic, his appeal, to me, is non-existent, his substance is as deep as bath water, and he's too emotive as a man for my liking.
Couple that with his album sales as a talking point, his pick and choose ability to dodge certain emcees whilst only going after the safest ones he feels can beat, and his God like status amongst his blind supporters make for a cocktail of resentment that most hip hop heads, myself included feel.
I for one, could care less about the amount of cash he has, records he sells or pussy he gets. I want in-depth, high quality imagery, lyrics, subject matter that he simply isn't able to provide me on a consistent basis.
Bruh, he basically admitted that he gave bread to Quentin to write. No one knows what homie wrote and didnt. We just know he didn't write all his shit. So his pen has an asterisk next to it.
That was an extremely lengthy dodge
It wasn't a dodge. I'm not speaking about cats building their arguments on ghostwriting. I'm talking about my preference towards him.
Hence my opening statement.
I didn't say Quentin didn't write shit.
If you come in the game as a writer, write literally hundreds of songs for you and for half the muhfuckas in the top ten for ten years and someone writes some of the shit on a few songs on one of your albums or hell each of them, that somehow negates everything else? Nah man.
And yall niggas really think that your favorite rappers were responsible for every word they ever spat, that's beyond ridiculous.
It's like cats the think WWE is real.
Music is a collaborative thing. Drake has written more shit than push lol the writing thing is just a funny argument to me.
That’s the thing folk jumping out the window, ghost writer is just as mist apart of the industry as back up singers..
Fact is cats don’t like Drake because he can seemlessly move through different genres of music and be successful while 99% of rap is stuck in one box.. the fact that it’s clear he’s written his own hits is not enough for folk
Dude is what Craig David was suppose to be
You quoted me when I was asking a question. You could have just said that without quoting me as it wasn't a response.
Cool
You protesting way too hard fam. As Styles P put it, cats like Drake and Kanye are dope. Great entertainers. Great song makers. But can't be put in the GOAT conversations of emcees. That last name ever, first name greatest shit is a wrap
Im just asking a question
Shouldn't be hard to answer given that that's everyone's argument
Lol @ protesting too much
And I don't subscribe to that way of thinking either. Freestyling isn't reading off a phone
Times have changed a lot and some things are acceptable that were not -openly
especially being about what you rap about but honesty im not mad at any of it
you just go into certain categories which isn't the end of the world you just go in that cat.
It was ok!!...Drake's ghostwriter gave him a nice dis song!!..
real talk
I think it's a community pool situation for him and the artists he messes with free sharing of ideas and such
My thing with writing for rappers is this.
Hooks don't matter. Hooks can be collaborative
Verses matter
Drake has a team. They make dope music. Is it safe to assume Quentin was under an NDA? He denied over and over what Drake just admitted. Perhaps other writers are too? So let's speculate. Meek said Drake didn't write his verse for RICO. Kendrick "I Swore I wouldn't tell" when talking about rappers using ghostwriters (Drake) came one album after their collabo on Poetic Justice.........
Goddamn a lot of y'all niggas hate this dude for real
Sorry fam. Can only go by what others who've worked with him have said. So it's speculation on my part. I don't work for OVO. Lofty standard you have there.
Yeah its off with his head after that. Bringing up Malice and his girl and shit......only person Aubrey care about is his mom.Damn, Drake petty for mentioning that man fiancée
Drake fans better not say shit if Pusha says some shit about Drake mom
Yeah that's another thing.......I sort of forgot him jacking flows and lyrics......his whole style was H-Town initially. How much credit do I give a dude for not being original....and then when he starts to be original you find out he got ghostwriters?
Dudes can try and change the narrative if they want but fact is in hip hop having a ghostwriter is a sin. I don't want to hear that "Oh its ok to have a ghostwriter now.....". Bullshit. If you a rapper and got a writer then you Bow Wow. You a pop artist. You Britney Spears. Same shit goes for Kanye. I stopped respecting him as a rapper when I found out he had niggas like Rhymefest and GLC writing his shit. Hell naw.......y'all know that shit ain't never been accepted in the culture.
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and will never be respected. you can live now and make money because you have artist like designer literally copying whole style and have nr1 song.
but when we talking about the list none of them rappers will be on it.
that sprite commercial was so disrespecting.
he took the blueprint from jay z but jay never went full retard with it.
What sprite commercial?
SMH.......I want someone to tell me any one of them dudes had ghostwriters aside from Aubrey.......damn its almost disrespectful to even use them for this campaign. Should've just had Migos or Rae Sremmurd next to Drake....but shit i'm pretty sure they write their bars though.around this time he wanted to claim best rapper.
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