Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
CarryOn said:
wth? what vid is this from
Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this?
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Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
Here's a picture just in case you decided not to listen to what I said (I get this weird feeling that that's probably what happened.
)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg
smokedacane said:
Here's a picture just in case you decided not to listen to what I said (I get this weird feeling that that's probably what happened.
)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
Sad how peeps always asking for facts....then when you show it to em they just want to dismiss it.......all without facts to justify dissmissing yours
And when people demand you step up your knowledge game...and you do they want to dissmiss that shit also.....
Mofo's just satisfied wit being kiss ass slaves IMO.....Fuck em
SuperGenius said:Funny how cats argue against fam, but yet can't produce any counter proof?
Very well done fam....
Sad how peeps always asking for facts....then when you show it to em they just want to dismiss it.......all without facts to justify dissmissing yours
And when people demand you step up your knowledge game...and you do they want to dissmiss that shit also.....
Mofo's just satisfied wit being kiss ass slaves IMO.....Fuck em
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
Log off my nig
Why Jamie McIntyre a CNN reporter who was at the scene state that their is no evidence of a large plane hitting the Pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02dE5VKeck
Why won't officials release any tapes that would confirm that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon?
Where is the footage from this camera located on the Pentagon???? Why won't they release it???
If the Plane "exploded" then why was a recovered turbine engine from the wreckage twice as small as a Boeing 757 engine?
LOOK HOW FUCKIN SMALL THAT IS COMPARED TO:
And if this engine was recovered it would totally contradict everything you said about the plane exploding and everything melting
Maybe you should LOOOOOOK closely
In fact the engine that was recovered in the wreckage resembles a Global Hawk
More importantly where are the Wings to the Plane? Shouldn't there be large laceration marks arcoss the Pentagon walls where the wings went through?
There is absolutely no signs at all that wings even penetrated the Pentagon walls. Whatever hit the Pentagon was a vastly SMALLER plane. A Boeing 757 would of caused more damage than that little as scrap mark. The two planes that hit the towers left more significant embrassion on the building. The Boeing that hit the Pentagon left a scratch...........makes nooooooo sense.
The plane only penetrated the first ring of the Pentagon. A Boeing is huge if you didn't know that already, it would of penetrated the first ring and second.
why is there very little damage????????
YinYangSoul said:I just answered them you dumb fuck. READ.
Listen closely: It hit a building and exploded. Parts were recovered but you don't actually expect to see a whole plane sticking out of the wall do you?
Oh and before you say something like "No, it was a missile!", here's some information about eye witness accounts:
"The Pentagon is surrounded by Interstate 395 and Washington Boulevard, on the side where the impact occurred. Steve Riskus witnessed the plane crash into the Pentagon, as he was driving along Washington Boulevard and stopped to take photographs moments after the impact. Mary Lyman, who was on I-395, saw the airplane pass over at a "steep angle toward the ground and going fast" and then saw the cloud of smoke from the Pentagon. Jim Sutherland, also on I-395, witnessed the plane pass 50 feet overhead, heading in a straight line into the Pentagon. Mary Ann Owens, of Gannett News Service, was stuck in traffic near the Pentagon when she saw the airplane pass 50 to 75 feet overhead and crash into the Pentagon. Another witness, Daryl Donley, saw the crash as he was driving on Washington Boulevard. Among debris that was scattered as the plane crashed, he found a "scorched green oxygen tank marked 'Cabin air. Airline use'" on the road."
Log off my nig
Why Jamie McIntyre a CNN reporter who was at the scene state that their is no evidence of a large plane hitting the Pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02dE5VKeck
Why won't officials release any tapes that would confirm that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon?
Where is the footage from this camera located on the Pentagon???? Why won't they release it???
If the Plane "exploded" then why was a recovered turbine engine from the wreckage twice as small as a Boeing 757 engine?
LOOK HOW FUCKIN SMALL THAT IS COMPARED TO:
And if this engine was recovered it would totally contradict everything you said about the plane exploding and everything melting
Yin said:
Maybe you should LOOOOOOK closely
In fact the engine that was recovered in the wreckage resembles a Global Hawk
More importantly where are the Wings to the Plane? Shouldn't there be large laceration marks arcoss the Pentagon walls where the wings went through?
There is absolutely no signs at all that wings even penetrated the Pentagon walls. Whatever hit the Pentagon was a vastly SMALLER plane. A Boeing 757 would of caused more damage than that little as scrap mark. The two planes that hit the towers left more significant embrassion on the building. The Boeing that hit the Pentagon left a scratch...........makes nooooooo sense.
The plane only penetrated the first ring of the Pentagon. A Boeing is huge if you didn't know that already, it would of penetrated the first ring and second.
why is there very little damage????????
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
Where is the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of the BOEING 757 that hit the Pentagon.
This pic shows nothing
This doesn't show shit guy
Go roll in some shit because your post resemble it. Might as well look the part toooo.
SMALL ASS HOLE
YinYangSoul said:Here's a picture just in case you decided not to listen to what I said (I get this weird feeling that that's probably what happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg
Where is the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of the BOEING 757 that hit the Pentagon.
This pic shows nothing
This doesn't show shit guy
Go roll in some shit because your post resemble it. Might as well look the part toooo.
SMALL ASS HOLE
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
Why Has Dr. "truth" Only Posted Once In This Entire Thread?????
Why Has Dr. "truth" Only Posted Once In This Entire Thread?????
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
One other sideline as regards The Pentagon thing....Is some official reports stated that The HEAT WAS SO INTENSE IT JUST KIND OF EVAPORATED THE PLANE......And YET THEY CLAIM THAT THE CORONER PERFORMED AUTOPSIES ON ALL BUT A COUPLE OF THE "VICTIMS"..........C'mon Kids does it take a Fuckin degree to see the gaping holes in that story???
smokedacane said:Log off my nig
Why Jamie McIntyre a CNN reporter who was at the scene state that their is no evidence of a large plane hitting the Pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02dE5VKeck
Why won't officials release any tapes that would confirm that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon?
Where is the footage from this camera located on the Pentagon???? Why won't they release it???
If the Plane "exploded" then why was a recovered turbine engine from the wreckage twice as small as a Boeing 757 engine?
LOOK HOW FUCKIN SMALL THAT IS COMPARED TO:
And if this engine was recovered it would totally contradict everything you said about the plane exploding and everything melting
Maybe you should LOOOOOOK closely
In fact the engine that was recovered in the wreckage resembles a Global Hawk
More importantly where are the Wings to the Plane? Shouldn't there be large laceration marks arcoss the Pentagon walls where the wings went through?
There is absolutely no signs at all that wings even penetrated the Pentagon walls. Whatever hit the Pentagon was a vastly SMALLER plane. A Boeing 757 would of caused more damage than that little as scrap mark. The two planes that hit the towers left more significant embrassion on the building. The Boeing that hit the Pentagon left a scratch...........makes nooooooo sense.
The plane only penetrated the first ring of the Pentagon. A Boeing is huge if you didn't know that already, it would of penetrated the first ring and second.
why is there very little damage????????
One other sideline as regards The Pentagon thing....Is some official reports stated that The HEAT WAS SO INTENSE IT JUST KIND OF EVAPORATED THE PLANE......And YET THEY CLAIM THAT THE CORONER PERFORMED AUTOPSIES ON ALL BUT A COUPLE OF THE "VICTIMS"..........C'mon Kids does it take a Fuckin degree to see the gaping holes in that story???
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
YinYangSoul said:I just answered them you dumb fuck. READ.
Listen closely: It hit a building and exploded. Parts were recovered but you don't actually expect to see a whole plane sticking out of the wall do you?
Oh and before you say something like "No, it was a missile!", here's some information about eye witness accounts:
"The Pentagon is surrounded by Interstate 395 and Washington Boulevard, on the side where the impact occurred. Steve Riskus witnessed the plane crash into the Pentagon, as he was driving along Washington Boulevard and stopped to take photographs moments after the impact. Mary Lyman, who was on I-395, saw the airplane pass over at a "steep angle toward the ground and going fast" and then saw the cloud of smoke from the Pentagon. Jim Sutherland, also on I-395, witnessed the plane pass 50 feet overhead, heading in a straight line into the Pentagon. Mary Ann Owens, of Gannett News Service, was stuck in traffic near the Pentagon when she saw the airplane pass 50 to 75 feet overhead and crash into the Pentagon. Another witness, Daryl Donley, saw the crash as he was driving on Washington Boulevard. Among debris that was scattered as the plane crashed, he found a "scorched green oxygen tank marked 'Cabin air. Airline use'" on the road."
Yinyang my homie, I'm going to help you support your argument that it WAS a Boieng 757.... ....oh, sorry 
. Now these videos are showing what
took place right before the plane (I mean alledge Boeing 757) crashed. Was it a Boeing 757?
Video 1.....check at the 1:26 and 1:27 mark and tell me do you see a BIG BOEING 757?
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/P5FtRZP8dSI[/flash]
Video 2: The same footage from a different angle....check at the :26 second mark
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/XIpmCNSQ6-A[/flash]
What about Flight 93 you say?.....this is what was reported as to what really happend to that flight as opposed to it crashing down in Shanksville, PA.
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/sueAQB3fjqo[/flash]
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/PoWCIFmlSgg[/flash]
....oh, sorry . Now these videos are showing whattook place right before the plane (I mean alledge Boeing 757) crashed. Was it a Boeing 757?
Video 1.....check at the 1:26 and 1:27 mark and tell me do you see a BIG BOEING 757?
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/P5FtRZP8dSI[/flash]
Video 2: The same footage from a different angle....check at the :26 second mark
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/XIpmCNSQ6-A[/flash]
What about Flight 93 you say?.....this is what was reported as to what really happend to that flight as opposed to it crashing down in Shanksville, PA.
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/sueAQB3fjqo[/flash]
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/PoWCIFmlSgg[/flash]
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
i'll drop my $0.02 and then exit...
1. can ANYONE on here find footage of ANY building ANYWHERE in the world that has collapsed (pancaked) as the result of a fire? any building... any where, under ANY circumstances?
2. can someone please explain what happened to wtc 7? no other buildings in the area pancaked like that one... none of them.
3. WITHOUT 9-11 happening, can anyone explain how or why we'd end up in iraq fighting people who HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11? the facts remain:
saddam had NOTHING to do with 9-11.
there were no WMD's.
and if there were WMD's, we made a preeminent strike based on an eminent threat. saddam was NOT an eminent threat = fact = bush lied.
4. where are the black box recordings from the flights? surely, they are somewhere.
5. that video of a 757 flying THAT low to the ground at THOSE speeds into the pentagon are bogus. even the best trained pilots in the world can't fly a plane that big, that low, that fast and end-up with that horrible footage?
the only thing is...
1. if the planes that crashed into wtc 1 & 2 were indeed altered or cargo planes, then, where are the people that were on-board?
and for the record, "yes, i am an engineer." i'm NOT a civil or structural or materials engineer, but jet fuel can NOT PRODUCE a flame hot enough to alter construction grade steel.
aw fuck it... no one else cares about those no bid contracts in iraq... the open checkbook on the usa treasury, OR halliburton's construction contracts.
this shit was all about $$$ folks... and the money IS STILL being made. again, there are more CONTRACTORS in iraq than soldiers.
i'll drop my $0.02 and then exit...
1. can ANYONE on here find footage of ANY building ANYWHERE in the world that has collapsed (pancaked) as the result of a fire? any building... any where, under ANY circumstances?
2. can someone please explain what happened to wtc 7? no other buildings in the area pancaked like that one... none of them.
3. WITHOUT 9-11 happening, can anyone explain how or why we'd end up in iraq fighting people who HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11? the facts remain:
saddam had NOTHING to do with 9-11.
there were no WMD's.
and if there were WMD's, we made a preeminent strike based on an eminent threat. saddam was NOT an eminent threat = fact = bush lied.
4. where are the black box recordings from the flights? surely, they are somewhere.
5. that video of a 757 flying THAT low to the ground at THOSE speeds into the pentagon are bogus. even the best trained pilots in the world can't fly a plane that big, that low, that fast and end-up with that horrible footage?
the only thing is...
1. if the planes that crashed into wtc 1 & 2 were indeed altered or cargo planes, then, where are the people that were on-board?
and for the record, "yes, i am an engineer." i'm NOT a civil or structural or materials engineer, but jet fuel can NOT PRODUCE a flame hot enough to alter construction grade steel.
aw fuck it... no one else cares about those no bid contracts in iraq... the open checkbook on the usa treasury, OR halliburton's construction contracts.
this shit was all about $$$ folks... and the money IS STILL being made. again, there are more CONTRACTORS in iraq than soldiers.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
TIME TO LOG OFF YINYANGSOUL
this thread is over, Dr. Truth didn't even come into the ring.
SuperGenius said:Yinyang my homie, I'm going to help you support your argument that it WAS a Boieng 757....
took place right before the plane (I mean alledge Boeing 757) crashed. Was it a Boeing 757?
Video 1.....check at the 1:26 and 1:27 mark and tell me do you see a BIG BOEING 757?
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/P5FtRZP8dSI[/flash]
Video 2: The same footage from a different angle....check at the :26 second mark
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/XIpmCNSQ6-A[/flash]
What about Flight 93 you say?.....this is what was reported as to what really happend to that flight as opposed to it crashing down in Shanksville, PA.
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/sueAQB3fjqo[/flash]
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/PoWCIFmlSgg[/flash]
TIME TO LOG OFF YINYANGSOUL
this thread is over, Dr. Truth didn't even come into the ring.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
They can't Max, I have already presented the case of the Madrid fire in 2005. Nobody who opposes me in this thread has tried to argue it instead they danced around it.
This damn building burned for over 10 fuckin hours and it did not collapse. But the Twin towers burn for an hour or so and collapse like a deck of fucking cards.
Like I said, NO BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN CONTRUCTED IN THE MODERN ERA HAS EVER COME DOWN DUE TO FIRE.......NEVER.
And no one will be ever to find sources because it has NEVER HAPPENED. The Twin Towers are one of the most architecturally sound buildings in the world yet it collapsed after a hour of fire. The bitch was brought down by a demolition team, just like wtc 7. Wake the fuck up!
max-dawg said:
They can't Max, I have already presented the case of the Madrid fire in 2005. Nobody who opposes me in this thread has tried to argue it instead they danced around it.
This damn building burned for over 10 fuckin hours and it did not collapse. But the Twin towers burn for an hour or so and collapse like a deck of fucking cards.
Like I said, NO BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN CONTRUCTED IN THE MODERN ERA HAS EVER COME DOWN DUE TO FIRE.......NEVER.
And no one will be ever to find sources because it has NEVER HAPPENED. The Twin Towers are one of the most architecturally sound buildings in the world yet it collapsed after a hour of fire. The bitch was brought down by a demolition team, just like wtc 7. Wake the fuck up!
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
I didn't care about 911 as I woke up to the reports of it happening....and I sure as hell don't care about it now....shit was comical at best....everybody was holding hands and singing koom-by-ah and swearing that 911 was going to be the defining moment in their lives...shit was supposed to be the end all/be all of American indifference to fellow Americans, as well as a revamping of foreign policy...there was a newfound air of patriotism ( like how most people are only Christian on Christmas and Easter )....so I found the entire media and public reaction to the events of 911 to be farcical....and I still do....but with that being said, it becomes harder and harder not to be able to connect the dots...Bush was reading to school children when he was informed about the first plane, and what did he do???....the genius brushed it off and continued reading....then the swift attack of Afghanistan against the Taliban ( when has Al Qaeda ever been linked to the Taliban??? )....and then into Iraq ( Bin Laden and Hussein were never in kahoots )....after adding all that up, none of those moves are logical and the hint of a larger, more covert agenda starts taking shape...despite the fact that the U.S. is getting it's ass handed to it in Iraq, Bush fails to realize it publicly and has even flirted with going to war against Iran???....shit doesn't make sense...911 could have been used as a means to gaining a foothold in the Middle East....and to be quite frank, a deception of that magnitude on the American people is fairly easy....after all, wasn't Iraq bursting at the seams with WMDs....shit is pathetic....but it's just another example that further strengthens my belief that the American populous, despite it's belief that it's the most sophisticated in the world, is actually composed of some of the dumbest human beings that mankind has ever seen....I put my money up that if Bush could run for office again, he'd win....he had low approval ratings before the last election, and still won in a landslide.....nothing in American way of thinking has changed since then to prevent him from winning again....fucking retards...
I didn't care about 911 as I woke up to the reports of it happening....and I sure as hell don't care about it now....shit was comical at best....everybody was holding hands and singing koom-by-ah and swearing that 911 was going to be the defining moment in their lives...shit was supposed to be the end all/be all of American indifference to fellow Americans, as well as a revamping of foreign policy...there was a newfound air of patriotism ( like how most people are only Christian on Christmas and Easter )....so I found the entire media and public reaction to the events of 911 to be farcical....and I still do....but with that being said, it becomes harder and harder not to be able to connect the dots...Bush was reading to school children when he was informed about the first plane, and what did he do???....the genius brushed it off and continued reading....then the swift attack of Afghanistan against the Taliban ( when has Al Qaeda ever been linked to the Taliban??? )....and then into Iraq ( Bin Laden and Hussein were never in kahoots )....after adding all that up, none of those moves are logical and the hint of a larger, more covert agenda starts taking shape...despite the fact that the U.S. is getting it's ass handed to it in Iraq, Bush fails to realize it publicly and has even flirted with going to war against Iran???....shit doesn't make sense...911 could have been used as a means to gaining a foothold in the Middle East....and to be quite frank, a deception of that magnitude on the American people is fairly easy....after all, wasn't Iraq bursting at the seams with WMDs....shit is pathetic....but it's just another example that further strengthens my belief that the American populous, despite it's belief that it's the most sophisticated in the world, is actually composed of some of the dumbest human beings that mankind has ever seen....I put my money up that if Bush could run for office again, he'd win....he had low approval ratings before the last election, and still won in a landslide.....nothing in American way of thinking has changed since then to prevent him from winning again....fucking retards...
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
I agree wholeheartedly
the_monsterous_monster said:
I agree wholeheartedly
The pod pics are altered.
The BBC film does not show WTC 7 in the background.
When the WTC 1 collapsed from the TOP down, not the BOTTOM up the air in the building is initially forced downward, the air has to go somewhere, that would up and out. Thus the reported "updrafts".
But let's use some common sense. If these events were planned by the government, how is it, that something this large, which would literally require the cooperation of THOUSANDS of people, and not a single person has come forward, or leaked some memos...... SOMETHING, ANYTHING.
What happened to all those people that got on the airplanes?
Are you trying to tell me that the government could pull off a scheme of this magnitude, but couldn't make up/plant some WMD's in IRAQ?
But the biggest question is WHY? Why would you hit the WTC in first place, and the Pentagon? So you could invade Iraq? To get control of the oil fields? So companies could get no bid contracts? So a few hundred people at Haliburton, and the oil companies could get rich?
The chances of getting caught would be too great. This is a government that can't even hide it's emails.
Strange shit? Of course. But ya'll gotta be kiddin' with this. Even if this is all about money, the risk/reward ratio is WAY too big.
The BBC film does not show WTC 7 in the background.
When the WTC 1 collapsed from the TOP down, not the BOTTOM up the air in the building is initially forced downward, the air has to go somewhere, that would up and out. Thus the reported "updrafts".
But let's use some common sense. If these events were planned by the government, how is it, that something this large, which would literally require the cooperation of THOUSANDS of people, and not a single person has come forward, or leaked some memos...... SOMETHING, ANYTHING.
What happened to all those people that got on the airplanes?
Are you trying to tell me that the government could pull off a scheme of this magnitude, but couldn't make up/plant some WMD's in IRAQ?
But the biggest question is WHY? Why would you hit the WTC in first place, and the Pentagon? So you could invade Iraq? To get control of the oil fields? So companies could get no bid contracts? So a few hundred people at Haliburton, and the oil companies could get rich?
The chances of getting caught would be too great. This is a government that can't even hide it's emails.
Strange shit? Of course. But ya'll gotta be kiddin' with this. Even if this is all about money, the risk/reward ratio is WAY too big.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
So this demolition team, they put the explosives at the TOP of the building? Cuz you know it collapsed from the top, right?
And those other buildings you showed weren't hit by planes, right?
So these would not be apples to apples, right?
smokedacane said:
So this demolition team, they put the explosives at the TOP of the building? Cuz you know it collapsed from the top, right?
And those other buildings you showed weren't hit by planes, right?
So these would not be apples to apples, right?
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
There is no point in explaining it to you harbinger, you're unwilling to be objective when viewing the other side of the coin.
There is no point in explaining it to you harbinger, you're unwilling to be objective when viewing the other side of the coin.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
No building in history was ever made like the world trade center. Every building was made for the frame to be the strength of the building. However to make a building this tall to be square all the way from top to bottom the building had to be built different. Every structure of the building supported the other. If any failed the building would fall on itself. In 1993 a building expert reported on nightline that the only way to bring down the world trade center was from the top down. The fuel burning in the towers was gone in the first few minutes. The materiels that were in the building was a different story, along with the fact that unlike a regular building fire most of the floor was ignited at once. Also the kenetic energy of the plane itself caused a lot of damage when it weakened the floors that it stuck.
Now what else could cause a building, well demolition experts, but that would take weeks of predrilling frame work and explosions placed throughout the building. Something that would not go unnoticed in a secure building. Well what else, a missle? No nothing exist in our inventory that could do that outside of a fuel air bomb. That would have caused an immediate fall due to the pressure wave. Well what else. Well how about a jet full of aviation fuel at 500 miles an hour smaking a building and igniting a floor at once. This causing intense fires and weakening of the structure which like it was predicted back in 93 would cause the structure to fall.
I think this site has the best explanation. http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/sciam/
smokedacane said:
No building in history was ever made like the world trade center. Every building was made for the frame to be the strength of the building. However to make a building this tall to be square all the way from top to bottom the building had to be built different. Every structure of the building supported the other. If any failed the building would fall on itself. In 1993 a building expert reported on nightline that the only way to bring down the world trade center was from the top down. The fuel burning in the towers was gone in the first few minutes. The materiels that were in the building was a different story, along with the fact that unlike a regular building fire most of the floor was ignited at once. Also the kenetic energy of the plane itself caused a lot of damage when it weakened the floors that it stuck.
Now what else could cause a building, well demolition experts, but that would take weeks of predrilling frame work and explosions placed throughout the building. Something that would not go unnoticed in a secure building. Well what else, a missle? No nothing exist in our inventory that could do that outside of a fuel air bomb. That would have caused an immediate fall due to the pressure wave. Well what else. Well how about a jet full of aviation fuel at 500 miles an hour smaking a building and igniting a floor at once. This causing intense fires and weakening of the structure which like it was predicted back in 93 would cause the structure to fall.
I think this site has the best explanation. http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/sciam/
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
The answer you are looking for is called collateral damage, taking an immediate loss for future gains!
What gains you ask?
1-Well you already mention the Oil fields but did you realize that it is one of the largest oil fields in the world?
2- A middle east military base right next to Iran!
3- Killing Saddam
4-Opening a market that has been virtually closed to the west!
5-Getting rid of a nation who decided to use the Euro as the currency to measure the barrels of oil, as opposed to the U.S. dollar!
6- Sending a message to the other nations thinking about going with the Euro also!
7- Getting rid of the Towers, building whom many deemed as being an I saw in lower Manhattan!
8- Scaring the citizen's enough to gladly give up their civil liberties!
Also, you should note that the scheme of this magnitude was needed, for the war to begin, as we now know not finding WMD didn't mean shit!
Harbinger said:
The answer you are looking for is called collateral damage, taking an immediate loss for future gains!
What gains you ask?
1-Well you already mention the Oil fields but did you realize that it is one of the largest oil fields in the world?
2- A middle east military base right next to Iran!
3- Killing Saddam
4-Opening a market that has been virtually closed to the west!
5-Getting rid of a nation who decided to use the Euro as the currency to measure the barrels of oil, as opposed to the U.S. dollar!
6- Sending a message to the other nations thinking about going with the Euro also!
7- Getting rid of the Towers, building whom many deemed as being an I saw in lower Manhattan!
8- Scaring the citizen's enough to gladly give up their civil liberties!
Also, you should note that the scheme of this magnitude was needed, for the war to begin, as we now know not finding WMD didn't mean shit!
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
this explains it even better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOAdoRnv_Vs
buildings don't fall down in a symmetrical collapse unless it is done by explosives. No steel contructed building before or after the twin towers has collapsed due to fire...........that alone should make anyone SKEPTICAL with the "official" story.
dlow said:
this explains it even better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOAdoRnv_Vs
buildings don't fall down in a symmetrical collapse unless it is done by explosives. No steel contructed building before or after the twin towers has collapsed due to fire...........that alone should make anyone SKEPTICAL with the "official" story.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
I am being objective. There are opposing arguments for most everything you cite as evidence. But I always look at the bigger picture, and while most are burying themselves in the details, and trying to figure pi to 189 places, I always ask, what's the payoff, and is it worth the stretch. If the answer to both of those questions is yes, then I look at the possibility of making it work.
But like I said, just use common sense. Think about how the whole thing could work together, instead of just individual pieces and you can see that it's pretty much impossible.
smokedacane said:
I am being objective. There are opposing arguments for most everything you cite as evidence. But I always look at the bigger picture, and while most are burying themselves in the details, and trying to figure pi to 189 places, I always ask, what's the payoff, and is it worth the stretch. If the answer to both of those questions is yes, then I look at the possibility of making it work.
But like I said, just use common sense. Think about how the whole thing could work together, instead of just individual pieces and you can see that it's pretty much impossible.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
9-China along with other middle eastern countries (Iran and Iraq) are one of the few countries in the entire world that do not have banks within its country controlled by the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, and other private European bankers. It's safe to say that these private bankers will have banks in the middle east now.....all thanks to 9/11
RoadRage said:
9-China along with other middle eastern countries (Iran and Iraq) are one of the few countries in the entire world that do not have banks within its country controlled by the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, and other private European bankers. It's safe to say that these private bankers will have banks in the middle east now.....all thanks to 9/11
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
Even if all
you say is true(although over a span of time explosives could have been planted in a variety of scenarios).......
One of The biggest questions that still remains.....WHAT ABOUT WTC 7...which was not hit by a plane...and NOT heavily fire damaged???
Add to that the obviously related occurences at The Pentagon.....and Shanksville........
I believe if looked at in that light to attempt to discount an internal conspiracy....is far more of a reach....far more absurd...
Further out of civility I read and attempted to wiegh the plausibility of your theory...IMO you are even reaching way far......
Over the course of months work men could have come in the Towers in a variety of guises....and in a place that big and busy people probably would not have batted an eyelash.....
dlow said:
Even if all
you say is true(although over a span of time explosives could have been planted in a variety of scenarios).......
One of The biggest questions that still remains.....WHAT ABOUT WTC 7...which was not hit by a plane...and NOT heavily fire damaged???
Add to that the obviously related occurences at The Pentagon.....and Shanksville........
I believe if looked at in that light to attempt to discount an internal conspiracy....is far more of a reach....far more absurd...
Further out of civility I read and attempted to wiegh the plausibility of your theory...IMO you are even reaching way far......
Over the course of months work men could have come in the Towers in a variety of guises....and in a place that big and busy people probably would not have batted an eyelash.....
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
I can't believe how easily you underestimate people with unlimited wealth and resources.
Harbinger said:
I can't believe how easily you underestimate people with unlimited wealth and resources.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
Not plausible, you're making this about oil.
2-There was no need for a military base next to Iran before we invaded Iraq. Iran actually used to like us. Desert Storm anyone?
3-This served no purpose. He wasn't a threat.
4-What good does it do to open other markets when our trade deficit contiues to widen? Again this makes no sense.
5-I don't think Iraq was accepting Euros for oil. Correct me if I'm wrong.
6-See number 5.
7-This is just silly. This defined NY as much as the Statue of Liberty.
8-This will only go so far. Don't believe the implanted RFID chip bullshit. And again, a goverment capable of pulling off such a complex plan, could SURELY come up with a WMD or two, dontcha think?
Now as far as you long term gain theory goes, the more we pay for oil increases the amount of $$$ and research that goes into alternative fuel sources. So this would really be a short term strategy, relatively speaking.
RoadRage said:
Not plausible, you're making this about oil.
2-There was no need for a military base next to Iran before we invaded Iraq. Iran actually used to like us. Desert Storm anyone?
3-This served no purpose. He wasn't a threat.
4-What good does it do to open other markets when our trade deficit contiues to widen? Again this makes no sense.
5-I don't think Iraq was accepting Euros for oil. Correct me if I'm wrong.
6-See number 5.
7-This is just silly. This defined NY as much as the Statue of Liberty.
8-This will only go so far. Don't believe the implanted RFID chip bullshit. And again, a goverment capable of pulling off such a complex plan, could SURELY come up with a WMD or two, dontcha think?
Now as far as you long term gain theory goes, the more we pay for oil increases the amount of $$$ and research that goes into alternative fuel sources. So this would really be a short term strategy, relatively speaking.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
I think we're throwing them into the middle of the ocean without first introducing them to shallow water.
I bet they still think that republicans and democrats are two seperate parties.....
RoadRage said:Why do I feel, this shit is going way over half of these cats heads!
Thanx for #9 feel free to add more, I sure there is a lot more I left out!
I think we're throwing them into the middle of the ocean without first introducing them to shallow water.
I bet they still think that republicans and democrats are two seperate parties.....
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
They already have discovered a alternative fuel source. They have had it for over 50 years or so. The only reason most of the world doesn't know about it is because they can't monopolize it like oil.
Harbinger said:
They already have discovered a alternative fuel source. They have had it for over 50 years or so. The only reason most of the world doesn't know about it is because they can't monopolize it like oil.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
And here we are, you and I, once again at the crux of the argument.
Assuming, this handful of people could pull this off with no one leaking any information what-so-ever. What do these already incredibly rich and powerful people get for all this risk, expense, and effort? More money? More power? They've already got more than they will ever use. Why would they risk exposure to their wealth and power simply to get more of what they cannot already use in several lifetimes.
This is the common sense part I alluded to earlier.
smokedacane said:I can't believe how easily you underestimate people with unlimited wealth and resources.
And here we are, you and I, once again at the crux of the argument.
Assuming, this handful of people could pull this off with no one leaking any information what-so-ever. What do these already incredibly rich and powerful people get for all this risk, expense, and effort? More money? More power? They've already got more than they will ever use. Why would they risk exposure to their wealth and power simply to get more of what they cannot already use in several lifetimes.
This is the common sense part I alluded to earlier.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
I am pretty sure you have no idea what this means. If so explain it to me, like I'm a five year old.
RoadRage said:Why do I feel, this shit is going way over half of these cats heads!
Thanx for #9 feel free to add more, I sure there is a lot more I left out!
I am pretty sure you have no idea what this means. If so explain it to me, like I'm a five year old.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
As far as opening Markets, Capitalism needs to open Markets and keep them open to keep afloat.
Why do you think the real reason why this country stays in wars?
Think, the best way for McDonald's register a gain is to open more resultants and the best way for that to happen, after your home market has become over saturated, is to open new markets!
Getting rid of the Twin Towers has been a God send to the lower Manhattan real estate market! Trust me I know, I live in NYC!
And we are undergoing the biggest real estate undertaking the city has seenin years! The freedom towers, when built would be the new face of the city, as well as the face of the nation! Guess it was time for an upgrade!
As far as Iran, they have always been the real villain in the eyes of the US, remember the Iranian hostage crisis as well as the US backing the then Saddam led Iraq to invade Iran? That's when the chemical weapons was used also!
Part of the perks that the US gave to Saddam, was that Iraq could take back Kuwait thus unifying what used to be Iran!
When the US reneged, Saddam decided to take matters in his own hands, and the rest was history!
Also Killing Saddam wasn't due to him being a threat, it was more personal for Bush!
Well lets start at 5, yes Iraq did convert to Eros, so did Venezuela by the way!Harbinger said:
As far as opening Markets, Capitalism needs to open Markets and keep them open to keep afloat.
Why do you think the real reason why this country stays in wars?
Think, the best way for McDonald's register a gain is to open more resultants and the best way for that to happen, after your home market has become over saturated, is to open new markets!
Getting rid of the Twin Towers has been a God send to the lower Manhattan real estate market! Trust me I know, I live in NYC!
And we are undergoing the biggest real estate undertaking the city has seenin years! The freedom towers, when built would be the new face of the city, as well as the face of the nation! Guess it was time for an upgrade!
As far as Iran, they have always been the real villain in the eyes of the US, remember the Iranian hostage crisis as well as the US backing the then Saddam led Iraq to invade Iran? That's when the chemical weapons was used also!
Part of the perks that the US gave to Saddam, was that Iraq could take back Kuwait thus unifying what used to be Iran!
When the US reneged, Saddam decided to take matters in his own hands, and the rest was history!
Also Killing Saddam wasn't due to him being a threat, it was more personal for Bush!
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
What is it? And who is the "they" that discovered it? The point is this, there is a tipping point. A point at which we as americans will demand that something change, that the government fix it or else. You've begun to see this with the mid-term elections, and it's happened at various times through-out history. Boston Tea Party, Rodney King/LA Riots etc.
smokedacane said:
What is it? And who is the "they" that discovered it? The point is this, there is a tipping point. A point at which we as americans will demand that something change, that the government fix it or else. You've begun to see this with the mid-term elections, and it's happened at various times through-out history. Boston Tea Party, Rodney King/LA Riots etc.
Re: Dr. Truth..........could you wipe the piss off your torso and please explain this
Now as far as you long term gain theory goes, the more we pay for oil increases the amount of $$$ and research that goes into alternative fuel sources. So this would really be a short term strategy, relatively speaking.
By the way the best way we could come up with and find an viable alternative fuel sources, is to first get rid of the Oil company representatives who are in Office right now!
Matter of fact it should be illegal for Oil execatives to hold Political positions in this country, due to conflict of interest!
Consider the following, if they were to actually find a fuel alternative, the Oil companies, especially the US companies who are banking on their rich Oil Reserve, would be out trillions of dollars!
Now as far as you long term gain theory goes, the more we pay for oil increases the amount of $$$ and research that goes into alternative fuel sources. So this would really be a short term strategy, relatively speaking.
By the way the best way we could come up with and find an viable alternative fuel sources, is to first get rid of the Oil company representatives who are in Office right now!
Matter of fact it should be illegal for Oil execatives to hold Political positions in this country, due to conflict of interest!
Consider the following, if they were to actually find a fuel alternative, the Oil companies, especially the US companies who are banking on their rich Oil Reserve, would be out trillions of dollars!
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