Does the NRA's New Obama Ad Finally Go Too Far?

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After skirting the lines of decency for years, gun lobby pulls the president's daughters into the debate.

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Has the NRA finally gone too far?

The National Rifle Association has been skirting the lines of decency for years, but the gun-rights group stoops to a new low with a Web ad calling President Obama an "elitist hypocrite." The ad criticizes Obama for giving his daughters Secret Service protection while expressing skepticism about installing armed guards in schools.

The ad is indisputably misleading, and is arguably a dangerous appeal to the base instincts of gun-rights activists.

In a the 35-second video, a deep-voice narrator asks, "Are the president's kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed guards in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?"

The fact is, Obama is not opposed to armed guards in schools. Indeed, many of the nation's schools already hire security. This is what Obama is skeptical of: the NRA's position that putting more guns in schools is the only way to prevent mass shootings.

The president wants to ban assault rifles, require background checks, and ban high-capacity ammunition. He does not want to confiscate guns, despite the NRA's unsubstantiated warnings to the contrary.

There are fair arguments to be had over Obama's proposals: Redefining the Second Amendment shouldn't be done without a vigorous debate. But to drag the president's daughters into the fight, and to question their need for security, suggests that the NRA is slipping further away from the mainstream. Over-the-top tactics discredit the NRA and its cause.

Gun-rights supporters deserve a better advocate.

The gun lobby's approval ratings are plummeting, and it is losing the support of opinion leaders who should be in the NRA's corner. In a Politico column titled "The High Cost of NRA Extremism," former conservative Rep. Joe Scarborough writes, "As a longtime supporter of the Second Amendment, I had hoped their executives and lobbyists would not take an absolutist position on the issue since that would ultimately set back the cause of gun rights. Unfortunately, [NRA leader Wayne] LaPierre chose to respond as if it were 1994."

Scarborough points out that a new ABC News/Washington Post shows that a majority of Americans now support a ban on certain types of assault weapons, a shift in public opinion since LaPierre's tone-deaf response to the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. An overwhelming majority of Americans also support universal background checks, a national database to track gun sales, and a ban on high-capacity magazines.




In the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, LaPierre famously called federal law-enforcement agents "jack-booted thugs" and compared them to the Nazis. Former President George H.W. Bush and other GOP leaders denounced the remarks. Will gun-rights supporters walk away from the NRA today?
  • After Newtown, LaPierre called for all schools to have armed police officers in place. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said.
  • A shooting-range app for the iPhone and iPad branded as an "Official NRA Licensed Product" was released on the one-month anniversary of the Newtown massacre.
  • After meeting with Vice President Joe Biden on gun control, the NRA accused Obama of an "agenda to attack the Second Amendment," a gross distortion of the president's position.
The ad signals the NRA's intention to fight a campaign-style war with Obama. The White House response: Bring it on.

"The president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. It's time to turn that loose," Obama adviser Robert Gibbs said on MSNBC. "If the NRA has a list, then Obama for America has a bigger list."
 
It was short sighted on their part to put this ad out before the Presidents recommendations. He did call for more resource officers in schools.
 
Plus they talked about video game violence as a culprit them turn around and put out an app pretty much doing the same thing.
 
Gone too far? Or, been too far?

IMO the ad is just another sign of the desperation of the GML (gun manufacturing lobby), in this instance, unabashedly perpetrating as the friend of the people. But the bastards have long gone too far.

I doubt seriously that the Obama children (like the Bush daughters before them) enjoy the constant watchful eye of the Secret Service -- but it is one of those bothersome but necessary perks bestowed on the children of those whose father serves in the nation's top spot.

Personally, I don't like the idea of cops or other gun carriers in schools. Notwithstanding the cost, the idea alone is, in my opinion, evidence of something having gone terribly wrong in our society. I'm sure we can point to many things as the culprits, i.e., decline of the family -- but the Second Amendment on Steroids national-love-affair-with-guns that is so deeply embedded in the American psyche ranks high on my list, as well.




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Plus they talked about video game violence as a culprit them turn around and put out an app pretty much doing the same thing.

The video game argument is weak. Japan has video games that are violent. Why is their gun crime rate so low?
 
Gone too far? Or, been too far?

IMO the ad is just another sign of the desperation of the GML (gun manufacturing lobby), in this instance, unabashedly perpetrating as the friend of the people. But the bastards have long gone too far.

I doubt seriously that the Obama children (like the Bush daughters before them) enjoy the constant watchful eye of the Secret Service -- but it is one of those bothersome but necessary perks bestowed on the children of those whose father serves in the nation's top spot.

Personally, I don't like the idea of cops or other gun carriers in schools. Notwithstanding the cost, the idea alone is, in my opinion, evidence of something having gone terribly wrong in our society. I'm sure we can point to many things as the culprits, i.e., decline of the family -- but the Second Amendment on Steroids national-love-affair-with-guns that is so deeply embedded in the American psyche ranks high on my list, as well.




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This is actually more of broader political attack pattern of the right. They have no compunction about bringing in the adolescent children of what they perceive as their enemies. They will stop at nothing to fill their pockets with money at the expense of death. They should be labeled terrorists.


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Of course it's too far but if there's no price to pay, where's the deterrent to keep them, and those like them, from doing it again?
 
The right wing Jedi Mind trick.


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The NRA ad is indicative of what the RepubliKlan carcass represents in 2013. 178 RepubliKlan congress members voted NO on the vote to provide billions in economic aid to the areas of New Jersey, New York and Connecticut ravaged by storm ‘SANDY’.

Sociopath republiklan radio bloviator, Rush Limbaugh, a creature who shamelessly constantly plumbs the depths of hideous abomination —mocked the little children that stood with President Obama at the ‘White House’ presentation of its ‘gun control’ plan. Mimicking the kids voices in a churlish falsetto voice Rush intoned “I don’t want to die” — as he made his position clear that there should be NO gun control of any kind, NONE.

Broadcaster Mike Malloy responded to Rush’s viciously repugnant taunting of the children who he called Obama’s “human shields” in another flagrant display of the bottom-feeder depravity that his white male audience relishes in. The audio files are below



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I think the NRA stepped out of line with this add but I support their move to preserve the 2nd ammendemend.


There are more people killed each year in hand-to-hand combat than by assault rifles and this will not do anything to solve the problem. Perfect example, chicago has one some of the toughest gun laws, yet one of the highest murder rates... This tells us that this is a social problem that can't be fixed by government legislation.

Banning these "assault" weapons will also have a huge financial impact on the gun industry and would put a lot of people out of work.

Its a knee-jerk reaction and won't change anything.
 
I think the NRA stepped out of line with this add but I support their move to preserve the 2nd ammendemend.


There are more people killed each year in hand-to-hand combat than by assault rifles and this will not do anything to solve the problem. Perfect example, chicago has one some of the toughest gun laws, yet one of the highest murder rates... This tells us that this is a social problem that can't be fixed by government legislation.

Banning these "assault" weapons will also have a huge financial impact on the gun industry and would put a lot of people out of work.

Its a knee-jerk reaction and won't change anything.


But what, if anything, is wrong with these pictures:


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Chris Christie
on the
NRA
"Reprehensible"

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In the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, LaPierre famously called federal law-enforcement agents "jack-booted thugs" and compared them to the Nazis. Former President George H.W. Bush and other GOP leaders denounced the remarks. Will gun-rights supporters walk away from the NRA today?
  • After Newtown, LaPierre called for all schools to have armed police officers in place. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,"</span> LaPierre said.
The ad signals the NRA's intention to fight a campaign-style war with Obama. The White House response: Bring it on.




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South Dakota becomes the first state to enact a law
explicitly authorizing school employees to carry guns




South Dakota became the first state in the nation to enact a law explicitly authorizing school employees to carry guns on the job, under a measure signed into law on Friday by Gov. Dennis Daugaard.

Several other states already have provisions in their laws — or no legal restrictions — that make it possible for teachers to possess guns in the classroom. In fact, a handful of school districts nationwide do have teachers who carry firearms. But South Dakota is the only known state with a statute that specifically authorizes teachers to possess a firearm in a K-12 school, according to Lauren Heintz, a research analyst at the National Conference of State Legislatures.


March 8, 2013, New York Times - FULL STORY










HIGHLIGHTS OF SOUTH DAKOTA LAW




Under the new law, before creating a sentinel program a school district must "obtain the approval of the law enforcement official who has jurisdiction over the school premises."

The law goes on to state that:​


  • "Any person who acts as a school sentinel ... shall first successfully complete a school sentinel training course as defined by the Law Enforcement Officers Standards Commission."

  • Districts may not require any teacher or school employee to arm themselves, and "no individual teacher or other school employee may be censured, criticized, or discriminated against for unwillingness or refusal to carry firearms pursuant to this Act."


  • "The failure or refusal of any school board to implement a school sentinel program does not constitute a cause of action against the board, the school district, or any of its employees."


  • "A decision by a school board to implement a school sentinel program pursuant to section 1 of this Act may be referred to a vote of the qualified voters of the school district by the filing of a petition signed by five percent of the registered voters in the school district."


  • "Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or school sentinel acting pursuant to section 1 of this Act, who intentionally carries, has in his possession, stores, keeps, leaves, places, or puts into the possession of another person, any firearm, or air gun, whether or not the firearm or air gun is designed, adapted, used, or intended primarily for imitative or noisemaking purposes, or any dangerous weapon, on or in any elementary or secondary school premises, vehicle, or building or any premises, vehicle, or building used or leased for elementary or secondary school functions, whether or not any person is endangered by such actions, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.


"This section does not apply to starting guns while in use at athletic events, firearms, or air guns at firing ranges, gun shows, and supervised schools or sessions for training in the use of firearms. This section does not apply to the ceremonial presence of unloaded weapons at color guard ceremonies."



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March 8, 2013 - FULL STORY






 



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