Does anyone know of a study about black businesses in non black communities vs non black businesses in black communities?

geechiedan

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What I mean is it seem to me that if you go thru a black neighborhood you will see various non-black owned or run entrepreneurial business (mom and pop stores, clothing stores, shoe store, restaurants, etc) run by greeks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians (dot) Jews, what have you.

But ride thru THOSE neighborhoods (Indian, Asian, Jewish, Hispanic, etc) and you almost never if EVER see a black-owned or operated business.

I have never been in an all-white neighborhood, walked into a store, and saw nothing but black people running the place.

Does anyone know if they did a study on that?
 
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yeah in cleveland ohio area...i have to find it.

i paid for it back in '03 when i was expanding.
 
yeah in cleveland ohio area...i have to find it.

i paid for it back in '03 when i was expanding.

cool..love to read it...i'm interested to see what the opportunity levels and chances are for a black small business to expand or start up in a non black area.
 
non black businesses in black communities?

What i mean is its to me that if go thru a black neighborhood you will various non black owned or run entrepreneurial business (mom and pop stores, clothing stores, shoes store, restaurants etc) run by greek, hispanics, asians, indians (dot) jews, what have you.

But ride thru THOSE neighborhoods (indian, asian, jewish, hispanic etc) and you almost never if EVER see a black owned or operated business.

I have never been in a all white neighborhood, walked into a store and saw nothing but black people running the place.

Does anyone know if they did a study on that?

For it to be successful...you won't know it's black owned.
"Black owned" is sort of a mixed blessing/curse. It tells black people "hey be a customer cause I'm black" but it causes images of inferiority because its saying "hey I'm black, be my customer" instead of saying "I'm the best service and price around, bare none."

In some industries it can work especially if its a primarily black product but for the service industry it can read failure from far away.
 
For it to be successful...you won't know it's black owned.
"Black owned" is sort of a mixed blessing/curse. It tells black people "hey be a customer cause I'm black" but it causes images of inferiority because its saying "hey I'm black, be my customer" instead of saying "I'm the best service and price around, bare none."

In some industries it can work especially if its a primarily black product but for the service industry it can read failure from far away.

Thats not exactly what I'm talking about tho..

The "black owned" moniker doesn't have to be in the title or out there like that. again if you walk into a korean owned store you don't think of it in the same terms. All you see is a bunch of korean people running a store.
 
It's so sad that we can't even own business in our own communities. How else can the black community accumulate wealth? Something needs to break the trend of generatinal poverty :smh:
 
It's so sad that we can't even own business in our own communities. How else can the black community accumulate wealth? Something needs to break the trend of generatinal poverty :smh:

its not so much we can't own a business in OUR communities as it is ANYONE can come into the black community and set up shop and take money out of the black community yet can blacks go into any other community and do the same thing?
 
yeah in cleveland ohio area...i have to find it.

i paid for it back in '03 when i was expanding.

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http://clutchmagonline.com/lifeculture/feature/hood-politics-the-foreign-business-takeover/

this may explain some reasons why there arn't many black owned businesses in non black areas..

But the problem is deeper than immigrants. In fact, one would be hard-pressed to prove they are the problem. There is a disparity in the incentive levels of entrepreneurship between the cultures. Integration has de-emphasized the need for Black business ownership within the Black community, whereas first-generation immigrants are almost forced to become self-employed in the Black community because:

* They generally aren’t fluent in English
* Companies exercise discrimination practices
* They aren’t educated in American colleges and universities, therefore many companies don’t recognize their educational or training credentials
* Land and business permits are easier to acquire in blighted areas (because white folks don’t generally want to deal with the customers and environs)

Add an entrenched work ethic (after all, you don’t move halfway across the world if you’re not motivated) and delayed gratification, plus the use of family members as cheap or unpaid labor…and you have conditions necessary for sustained business ownership.

Many Black people feel these businesses should invest in the community where they make their living. But is forcing businesses to give back the proverbial “wiping your nose to cure a cold” syndrome? If American Deli has to donate a certain percent of their income to the ‘hood, how would that enhance the economic and educational understanding among the people in that ‘hood?

Boycotting businesses aren’t the answer. Yet. Neither is forcing businesses to give back. Progress has to come from the bottom-up and a renewed focus on entrepreneurship in the Black community. Moving from a consumer-oriented focus to a producer-oriented focus means shedding the “blacks don’t support black-owned businesses” stereotype.

If Darren organized a boycott against American Deli or [fill in the blank of any *Korean-owned business], and that business leaves, can the community survive economically with majority Black ownership? A boycott would be effective only when that answer is a resounding yes. At this moment, the answer may not be pleasant.
*Though there are many other immigrants who start businesses in predominantly black communities, Asian-Americans, statistically, are the most likely (foreign) ethnic group to start their own business. Koreans are the highest business owners (percentage-wise) among Asian-Americans, according to 2000 Census numbers.
 
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Word will spread and people will boycott that shit to shut it done. I seen it done, word will be all over town, without even showing up on the media. You think your business wasn't setup right, it was your skin color. I seen people resort to hiring a white frontman to sell their things.

Check out:
Domino's Pizza, Inc. v. McDonald

"I don't like dealing with you people anyway,"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino's_Pizza,_Inc._v._McDonald

It terrible, you will be somewhere 49 percent black and see no black businesses, just inside sweeping the floor. Barbershops and funeral parlors don't count.

Asians don't let other ethnics groups come into community, they have all kinds of things popping.I think language is a barrier for other ethnic groups to come in, use it to their advantage.
 
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let's be real tho,,, in the Black community, the main Black owned businesses you see are beauty/barber shops, black churches, bootleg auto shops & liquor stores (which many of us don't even own),,, who want's that shit on every intersection in their neighborhood?,,, i don't even want it in mine,,, we need to diversify

Don't forget funeral homes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Don't want some liquor store in my community. :angry:
 
let's be real tho,,, in the Black community, the main Black owned businesses you see are beauty/barber shops, black churches, bootleg auto shops & liquor stores (which many of us don't even own),,, who want's that shit on every intersection in their neighborhood?,,, i don't even want it in mine,,, we need to diversify

True but Black people know how to run a business into the ground.

That's a statement I'll swear by. Ive seen it happen MULTIPLE time.

It's happening to my favorite pizza parlor/bar right now. :(

Was owned by some white folks from the middle east. Was the coolest spot to get a drink watch a game and here some VERY nice music while munching on hand made pizza and wings.

Then they sold it to a black couple...and it's been going down hill ever since.

Like WTF? you bought a successful business all you had to do was maintain the quality of service and food. :hmm:

Sorry had to get that off my chest . Carry on.
 
I can give you my mini study based on what I have seen in Brooklyn. There is a black owned shoe store in Brooklyn Heights, an almost exclusively white neighbourhood. White people do not go in there. All of the clientele are black women who work downtown and stuff.

Now in recently gentrified hoods like Ft Greene i watched nearly every last Black owned business get pushed out one way or the other. The ones that survived are not patronized by whites at all. Even when you go on sites like menupages, those restaurants have no reviews.

Even in Anguilla, a black country, white expats only support a black owned business when they have no other option.

Then there is community boards kicking businesses out on trumped up allegations like in the case of Lola in Soho.
 
let's be real tho,,, in the Black community, the main Black owned businesses you see are beauty/barber shops, black churches, bootleg auto shops & liquor stores (which many of us don't even own),,, who want's that shit on every intersection in their neighborhood?,,, i don't even want it in mine,,, we need to diversify

dude...help the cause...don't hurt..really:smh::hmm:
 
yeah... actually i'd like to hear kayanations opinion here.



Didn't see this thread until today.....

I don't know that any study was ever done because:
1. Blacks are usually the subject
2. The topic is always to show us in a dysfunctional light i.e. assuage white guilt about enslaving the "savages"


Anyway, it is something I always think about too.

I attended zoning board meeting all over this country.

Zoning hearings deal with issues such as:
1. Home improvements
2. Business permits
3. Cell tower location
4. Neighborhood cleaning
5. General aesthetics of the community e.g. Walgreens in the hood looks different that Walgreens in the suburb


If you want to open a business in a white community you need to get your plans tabled, go to the zoning hearing, make you case and the zoning hearing baord votes to deny or approve it.

Some of the criteria include:
1. Is this going to provide a public good i.e. improve the neighborhood
2. Is it going to be a detriment to the neighborhood
3. Is it going to impact traffic patterns?
4. Is it going to attract unnecessary traffic that may impact safety?

etc.....

The burden of proof is so high that it is a barrier for small businesses and especially so for black small businesses.

I saw an Indian man put a "white face" to the application etc... and he got through.

The same way they hire blacks to market to other blacks, we need to start thinking about hiring whites to do our marketing to the white communities...........
e.g. open a pizza shop and hire italians!

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Walgreens in the hood:

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Walgreens in the suburbs:

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Cell tower in the hood:

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Cell tower in the suburb:

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walgreens in the hood:

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walgreens in the suburbs:

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cell tower in the hood:

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cell tower in the suburb:

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this is the way it should be. Nigga shit and hood ass business rim shops,etc etc keep that bullshit in da hood. Thankfully that bullshit is not in my community.
 
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