Discussion: Falcon and The Winter Soldier UPDATE: Captain America 4 Brave New World coming 2 theatres

Heavenlywings77

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Spider got the glasses and war machine got a room full of suits + some vacationing money that’s why you haven’t really heard from him other than his appearance watching Sam retire the corpse fucker shield.. notice war machine didn’t try to save the town of hostages under the spell or help out trying to get these poor Super terrorist..Rogers retired somewhere laughing at Sam problems


Your reading waaaay too far into it

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tallblacknyc

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Dude killed Howard Stark and was incremental to hydra's plan by assassinating top level people through out history. The fact that he wasn't locked up at some black site is white privilege at its finest.
Shit in the scene I showed nig threw some some dude into a truck, blew up a cop inside a cop car, shot an agent in the shoulder, tried multiple times to commit murder by gun/missle/knife on agents, destroyed part of a highway, recklessly firing assault rifles on highways , streets, sidewalks, in the direction of citizens.. dude literally did a mass shooting in broad daylight killing prob at least 3 people.. if not the death penalty, at least serving triple life without possibility of parole
 

playahaitian

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Everything that she said is so true. But it's not just ornamental health.

I had surgery on my left knee (bastards only gave me 10%) and when I get to my second ship I'm having issues with my left and right knee, my right ankle and my right hip.

The HMC (Hospital Corpsman Chief-E7) asked me, "Do you want to stay in the military? Do you want to have a career? This here, these complaints about this so-called "pain" you have in your knee or your hip or whatever will get you thrown out on your ass.

You want to go back to Cleveland with nothing? Do you? If they see this in your medical records they will put you out and send you back to Cleveland.

So what do you want me to do with these pages. If I take them out ,these visits never happened and you can have a long career. That's what you want, right?"

He then tore the pages out of my medical records

( also, seriously I need you Brothers to hit me up. I need to increase my percentage because of 10% is not hitting it. Sleep apnea which they say isn't connected to my military service, migraines on top of everything else and all they are doing is throwing pills at me. I'm 44 and I have migraines multiple times daily)

These should be a seperate thread or sub forum for an important subject matter like this.
 

Shadow

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Everything that she said is so true. But it's not just on mental health.

I had surgery on my left knee (bastards only gave me 10%) and when I get to my second ship I'm having issues with my left and right knee, my right ankle and my right hip.

The HMC (Hospital Corpsman Chief-E7) asked me, "Do you want to stay in the military? Do you want to have a career? This here, these complaints about this so-called "pain" you have in your knee or your hip or whatever will get you thrown out on your ass.

You want to go back to Cleveland with nothing? Do you? If they see this in your medical records they will put you out and send you back to Cleveland.

So what do you want me to do with these pages. If I take them out ,these visits never happened and you can have a long career. That's what you want, right?"

He then tore the pages out of my medical records

( also, seriously I need you Brothers to hit me up. I need to increase my percentage because of 10% is not hitting it. Sleep apnea which they say isn't connected to my military service, migraines on top of everything else and all they are doing is throwing pills at me. I'm 44 and I have migraines multiple times daily)

you need to find a BLACK VFW dude to help you with redoing your claim. If you are in Cleveland I know there are some people. A close friend of mine worked at the VA in the area for a few years but she has since returned to the Bragg area.

usually surgeries on knees are only 10% that’s par for the course.

thing is you have other shot in you records that will get you above 30% to get a check (60% will get you concurrent receipt of you retire from active duty)

you need to start learning VA math RIGHT FICKING NOW too.

I have a few things that kept me straight but my career was not like most other brothers out there.
 

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LordSinister

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Dude killed Howard Stark and was incremental to hydra's plan by assassinating top level people through out history. The fact that he wasn't locked up at some black site is white privilege at its finest.
How many people did Hawkeye help Loki Kill in the first Avengers? In the MCU mind control is an actual thing, not bullshit. So after the snap and half of reality being erased, when the rest of the Avengers tell the powers to be what he did I can see them giving him probation. Sam violated the accords and he went right back to work, no questions asked
 

tallblacknyc

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How many people did Hawkeye help Loki Kill in the first Avengers? In the MCU mind control is an actual thing, not bullshit. So after the snap and half of reality being erased, when the rest of the Avengers tell the powers to be what he did I can see them giving him probation. Sam violated the accords and he went right back to work, no questions asked
Like I said a band of criminals.. you forget Hawkeye going to diff countries getting his Jason voorhies on killing mad Asians... and large bills wants to know why tony left all these goons off his will


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praetor

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Assuming this series takes place only a few months after Endgame, Bucky has only been free for that long. Previously, he had been dusted, on the run, and hiding in Wakanda.
 

Lou_Kayge

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Assuming this series takes place only a few months after Endgame, Bucky has only been free for that long. Previously, he had been dusted, on the run, and hiding in Wakanda.


I think it's currently still supposed to be 2023 in the MCU. Maybe the end of the year. Actually, supposedly, I think Hulk's snap occurred in Fall '23. Anyway, if Bucky was free from being the Winter Soldier in 2017, when did the post-credit scene in Black Panther take place? Before or after he was finally "freed"? Shuri said he had much more to learn. Perhaps there was still more deprogramming to do. One last semi-related thing. It's interesting that no one who aligned with Killmonger told him about Bucky being there. Killmonger would have obviously wanted to kill him.
 

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Ed Brubaker gets more residuals from his WINTER SOLDIER cameo than from creating the character

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In his online newsletter a few weeks ago, former Captain America writer and Winter Soldier co-creator Ed Brubaker expressed “mixed feelings” over The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Disney+ series, and over Marvel and Disney’s treatment of the creators behind their cash cows. On Monday night, Brubaker appeared on the Fatman Beyond podcast hosted by Kevin Smith and Marc Bernardin where he spoke in greater detail about his dissatisfaction.

Brubaker mentions turning down a check for a “Thank You” credit in Captain America: Civil War because he found the tiny amount to be such an insult. To add insult to injury, Brubaker apparently had to attend the premiere in the overflow theater as opposed to the main big theater with the big stars. Since the basic premise of the B-plot for Civil War involving Bucky hunting down rogue agents of the Winter Soldier program was based on his Captain America comics run, Brubaker’s indignation is understandable.

Apparently Brubaker and artist Steve Epting, the team who reinvented Joe Simon and Jack Kirby‘s Bucky Barnes as The Winter Soldier, didn’t even get an invite to the Captain America: Winter Soldier movie after-party and had to text Sebastian Stan (the actor who plays the character in the MCU) to get them in because Kevin Feige‘s assistant apparently didn’t have them on their list. Adding salt to the wound was that Feige’s assistant was more than happy to let in other assistants and bloggers.

Brubaker also recounted a near drowning experience almost two years ago that has him more reflective about how his wife would survive if something were to happen to him. The experience is what inspired his Western Pulp graphic novel with artist Sean Phillips.

I can’t help but be reminded how Charlotte (Fullerton) McDuffie, the widow of Dwayne McDuffie, had to fight on her late husband’s behalf over the Milestone 2.0 relaunch that left McDuffie’s estate out of the deal. After a few years though, the lawsuit was eventually settled with a positive outcome for all involved.

Not one to mince words, these are just few Brubaker quotes from the podcast that stood out:

“I REMEMBER SITTING IN THAT MOVIE AND JUST REMEMBERING THIS JACK KIRBY ULCER GROWING IN MY STOMACH GOING, ‘THIS IS WHAT IT FELT LIKE, KID.'”

“WHEN I SEE ADS FOR THE SHOW, IT ACTUALLY MAKES ME FEEL SICK TO MY STOMACH.”

“WHEN I WORK WITH PEOPLE I TRY TO GIVE THEM THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE. AND IF SOMETHING ENDS UP BEING A BIGGER THING I TRY TO ACTUALLY ADJUST THEIR DEAL SO THEY CAN TAKE PART IN THAT TOO.”

Brubaker contrasted it with Netflix, who did right by Dave Chappelle by pulling Chappelle’s Show from its streaming service after the comedian revealed his original “raw deal” with Comedy Central that was settled last February.


“THERE’S NOTHING PREVENTING ANYONE AT MARVEL FROM LOOKING OVER HOW MUCH THE WINTER SOLDIER HAS BEEN USED IN ALL THIS STUFF AND CALLING ME AND STEVE EPTING AND SAYING, ‘YOU KNOW WHAT, WE’RE GOING TO TRY TO ADJUST THE STANDARD THING SO YOU GUYS FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS.'”

As he said in his aforementioned newsletter, Brubaker has absolutely nothing but respect for everyone at Marvel Studios, and his issues stem from publishing.

Perhaps most surprising is the revelation that appearing in the Winter Soldier film for a brief cameo makes Ed Brubaker more royalties than actually co-creating the character.

“I HAVE MADE MORE ON SAG RESIDUALS THAN I HAVE MADE ON CREATING THE CHARACTER FOR MY ONE LINE THAT GOT CUT.”


It seems not dissimilar to how comic creator Jim Starlin revealed in a Facebook post that he received more money from DC Comics Entertainment when Anatoli Knyazev (better known in the comics as KGBeast) appeared for a relatively minor role in Batman v Superman than for appearances by his creations, most notably Thanos the Mad Titan, in the Marvel movies combined.


Other quotes from Brubaker of note.

“IT’S JUST WEIRD THAT THEY’RE SO UNGENEROUS TO ME. IT’S ESPECIALLY WEIRD BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE FRIENDS OF MINE. OR PEOPLE THAT I THOUGHT WERE FRIENDS OF MINE.”
“THERE IS A CORPORATE MENTALITY. RIGHT NOW SOMEONE INSIDE MARVEL PUBLISHING SOMEWHERE IS WATCHING THIS AND LAUGHING THAT I THINK I GOT RIPPED OFF. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THINK IT’S FUNNY THAT I’M UNHAPPY ABOUT IT. I KNOW FOR A FACT BECAUSE I’VE WATCHED THEM BE THAT WAY ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE IN PERSON.”
“I LOOK AT THOSE CREDITS AND THERE’S ALL THESE OTHER EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS [OF] PEOPLE WHO WERE JUST AT THE PUBLISHING LEVEL WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. I KNOW HOW MUCH THAT EP CREDIT ACTUALLY MAKES YOU IN A TV SHOW AT DISNEY. THESE PEOPLE HAVE MADE SO MUCH MONEY ON STUFF THAT STEVE AND I DID.”

As frustrated as Brubaker may be with his own “raw deal,” he doesn’t want that to detract from others enjoying The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Nevertheless, much like Dave Chappelle, here’s hoping that Brubaker’s appearance on Fatman Beyond to air his grievances will lead Marvel/Disney to reconsider things.

 

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It's amazing watching these white boys rally around U.S. Agent since they need a hero to represent them. Finding any and every way to defend his actions while calling the show and every black character boring. You love to see it. Keep crying bitches because he about to get jumped.
 

Lou_Kayge

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It's amazing watching these white boys rally around U.S. Agent since they need a hero to represent them. Finding any and every way to defend his actions while calling the show and every black character boring. You love to see it. Keep crying bitches because he about to get jumped.


I have seen some white fans LOVE Black Panther on some of these reaction videos I watch.
 

Lou_Kayge

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Tony looked out for his black friend I don’t see war machine struggling... tony knew Rogers couldn’t be trusted... saved the man that killed his parents... saved the guy that’s killing African kings... jealous of his riches and family...than lined him up to convince him to sacrifice his life for mankind and leave his child a bastard meanwhile the corpse fucker sits back smiling awaiting for himself to go back in time to have sex

Tony almost died in avengers 1 saving the world almost died in 3 trying to stop the peacekeeper thanos than died in part 4.. where was the perverted corpse fucker during all of this

Tony probably also pulled strings allowing Vision to buy the plot of land in Westview,NJ he and Wanda were gonna live in.
 
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