Diamonds and the engagement: Tradition or Scam?

CybaCipha

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I didn't know if this should be here or on the main board. But I'm curious to know how strongly some of the females feel about getting engaged in what we believe is the "traditional" way. Here is a couple paragraphs to poder. Any thoughts?



Glitter and Greed
The diamond engagement ring tradition could be the greatest PR scam ever invented. It is ingrained in society that everyone from the stockbroker to the janitor has to shell out thousands to the diamond industry if he wants to marry his woman.

Eighty years ago, your great grandparents ... gave each other big wooden boxes and simple things like promise rings and hope chests. The allure of diamonds is part of a huge, century-long conspiracy by the diamond industry, namely giant De Beers, which controls stockpiles and sets the price of stones, which aren't the rarest in nature, even though they're the most expensive.

Source: http://www.blacktable.com/bruno031030.htm




Another good read:
In 1919, De Beers experienced a drop in diamond sales that lasted for two decades. So in the 1930s it turned to the firm N.W. Ayer to devise a national advertising campaign—still relatively rare at the time—to promote its diamonds. Ayer convinced Hollywood actresses to wear diamond rings in public, and, according to Edward Jay Epstein in The Rise and Fall of the Diamond, encouraged fashion designers to discuss the new "trend" toward diamond rings. Between 1938 and 1941, diamond sales went up 55 percent. By 1945 an average bride, one source reported, wore "a brilliant diamond engagement ring and a wedding ring to match in design." The capstone to it all came in 1947, when Frances Gerety—a female copywriter, who, as it happened, never married—wrote the line "A Diamond Is Forever." The company blazoned it over the image of happy young newlyweds on their honeymoon. The sale of diamond engagement rings continued to rise in the 1950s, and the marriage between romance and commerce that would characterize the American wedding for the next half-century was cemented. By 1965, 80 percent of American women had diamond engagement rings. The ring had become a requisite element of betrothal—as well as a very visible demonstration of status. Along the way, the diamond industry's guidelines for the "customary" cost of a ring doubled from one month's salary to two months' salary.

http://www.slate.com/id/2167870/pagenum/all/#page_start

See what the fellas have to say about it: http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=447381
 
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1000000% scam!!! find out if your woman has a favorite gemstone and get her that. But don't compromise on the beauty & daintiness of it :) If you've already talked about marriage with her, ask her if she wants a diamond or something else.
 
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I wouldn't call it a scam its a tradition. The same way women gather to have bridal and baby showers. Nothing says it "HAS TO BE DONE THIS WAY." Yet its done but I've never heard a real woman saying if you don't buy me a diamond engagement ring I won't marry you. If she says it the guy should run as far away as he can.

Bring its only a tradition means that purchase doesn't have to happen. With money being one of the biggest issues in today's society I don't see the necessity for the engagement ring. If two people really are in love a ring won't matter. That money might be better spent on a necessity like a car or down payment on furniture or something tangible.

With the blood associated with the diamond industry today I wouldn't even consider a purchase but that's just me.
 
engagement rings = marriage rings = for a womans ego


since women are in heave competition with each other over men, a ring is like a symbolic sign of victory


also, they want to show the world that they're not losers....women feel like you're a loser if you dont have someone committed to you


it's like a badge of honor thing...this is why many women are so pressed about that ring...
 
All of it is a scam. When a man wants to marry a women he dont care if its at the court house, a big wedding, or in somebody backyard. We do all that other stuff to make yall happy, we just want you.
 
Some women NOT ALL deserve to be spoiled and pampered. And if giving her a superfluously priced ring to show her how much I love her and want to dedicate myself to her, makes her happy. Well so be it. I'm doing that for my girl as soon as I graduate, and get some money.
 
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