Presented with facts this is how trumpanzees respond.
Why does your mental illness make you lie with every breath? Is your moral compass broke or do you think only your opinion is the truth?
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Why does your mental illness make you lie with every breath? Is your moral compass broke or do you think only your opinion is the truth?
Try to stay calm. Here is some more of those facts you hate. I'm trying to help you become self aware.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains
- The Dunning-Kruger Effect:
The seemingly obvious solution would be to try to reach those people through political ads, expert opinions, and logical arguments that educate with facts. Except none of those things seem to be swaying any Trump supporters from his side, despite great efforts to deliver this information to them directly.
The Dunning-Kruger effect explains that the problem isn’t just that they are misinformed; it’s that they are completely unaware that they are misinformed. This creates a double burden.
Studies have shown that people who lack expertise in some area of knowledge often have a cognitive bias that prevents them from realizing that they lack expertise. As psychologist David Dunning puts it in an op-ed for Politico, “The knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task — and if one lacks such knowledge and intelligence, one remains ignorant that one is not good at the task. This includes political judgment.” Essentially, they’re not smart enough to realize they’re dumb.
And if one is under the illusion that they have sufficient or even superior knowledge, then they have no reason to defer to anyone else’s judgment. This helps explain why even nonpartisan experts — like military generals and Independent former Mayor of New York/billionaire CEO Michael Bloomberg — as well as some respected Republican politicians, don’t seem to be able to say anything that can change the minds of loyal Trump followers.
Out of immense frustration, some of us may feel the urge to shake a Trump supporter and say, “Hey! Don’t you realize that he’s an idiot?!” No. They don’t. That may be hard to fathom, but that’s the nature of the Dunning-Kruger effect — one’s ignorance is completely invisible to them.
Try to stay calm. Here is some more of those facts you hate. I'm trying to help you become self aware.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains
Some believe that many of those who support Donald Trump do so because of ignorance — basically they are under-informed or misinformed about the issues at hand. When Trump tells them that crime is skyrocketing in the United States, or that the economy is the worst it’s ever been, they simply take his word for it.
- The Dunning-Kruger Effect:
The seemingly obvious solution would be to try to reach those people through political ads, expert opinions, and logical arguments that educate with facts. Except none of those things seem to be swaying any Trump supporters from his side, despite great efforts to deliver this information to them directly.
The Dunning-Kruger effect explains that the problem isn’t just that they are misinformed; it’s that they are completely unaware that they are misinformed. This creates a double burden.
Studies have shown that people who lack expertise in some area of knowledge often have a cognitive bias that prevents them from realizing that they lack expertise. As psychologist David Dunning puts it in an op-ed for Politico, “The knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task — and if one lacks such knowledge and intelligence, one remains ignorant that one is not good at the task. This includes political judgment.” Essentially, they’re not smart enough to realize they’re dumb.
And if one is under the illusion that they have sufficient or even superior knowledge, then they have no reason to defer to anyone else’s judgment. This helps explain why even nonpartisan experts — like military generals and Independent former Mayor of New York/billionaire CEO Michael Bloomberg — as well as some respected Republican politicians, don’t seem to be able to say anything that can change the minds of loyal Trump followers.
Out of immense frustration, some of us may feel the urge to shake a Trump supporter and say, “Hey! Don’t you realize that he’s an idiot?!” No. They don’t. That may be hard to fathom, but that’s the nature of the Dunning-Kruger effect — one’s ignorance is completely invisible to them.
Bro, just because i question Democrats doesnt mean im a trump supporter.. You should question the Democrats too.. Snap outta the illusion, Im not your enemy!!!
gotta rip outta of the tea party book. ( tatics not the crazy)put them dem to the fire and start proping up our own people with our interest in mind to run for their seats and snatched them up. that sit shook the republicans up.
Looks to me that the candidate the establishment picked didn't want to live in the district he wanted to represent.
Just goes to show the establishment democrats are spineless and they needed to be run out . Democrats had 100% of the government and didn't so shit with it.
They had already been losing seats and states so it isn't like the GOP tactics were unknown.
Now was the time to change direction and go back to being the party of the people while the people are outraged at Trump and his clowns..But instead they chose to remain status quo
This is going to have to be bottom up. The voting to overturn the ban on corporate money is more damning than who leads the DNC in my opinion, because I don't have a high regard for what the position actually does anyway.
The will of the people is already forcing Dems in the Senate to hold strong, and you know a lot of them would rather roll over.
The only problem I have with some progressives is not understanding centrists Dems aren't their enemies. We're going to need them. A Dem that wins in New York is not the same kind of Dem that wins in Texas or West Virginia.
We need to focus on the things we all agree on and hold together.
I look at all the arguing back and forth you and I did all fucking election and I'm certain we agreed on 95% of issues. Made no sense. So you won't see me arguing with you bruh (at least not much lol).
Damn, right on bro... How about telling Watcher that??
I agree with this 95%..All ecpt the bolded.
If they are blue dogs then they only vote sometimes with dems and are not dependable.
GOP doesn't waiver even in risky states
Why I'm saying is that us older black guys aren't connected at the hip wroth this new gay agenda. Donna Brazile (openly gay) and Nancy Pelosi (Hollywood) are more concerned with the rights of gays than they are worth blacks.
Obama never lifted his hand to get engaged about Chicago. Blacks were getting gunned down in the streets by cops, and all he was concerned about is wether or not a cross dresser can choose their bathroom.
He did far more for gays than blacks.
And this new agenda is killing the Democrats.
So which candidate did *YOU* support for DNC Chairman? It sounds as if your "Bitch Moan Lather Rinse Repeat" farewell speech was written LONG before today's election.
I wrote it last night. And I'll say it again. We blacks have a gene that makes us black. When did we get so cool with us and gays saying we are fighting for the same values.
I guarantee that gay men earn more than blacks. This gay agenda is what turned peoples stomachs.
In the 60s, these gays were hiding in the closet when blacks were getting their heads busted by cops.
Today blacks are still getting their heads busted by cops but gays are doing much better than in the 60s.
I'm saying the DNC has to be careful that the voice is of theft working class and minorities and much, MUCH less gay shit.
Once the gays get all they want, they'll throw us away like their used condemns...
Dems wait their entire lives for the perfect woman that never arrives. GOP just fucks whatever is in front of them.
The "weird" factor is what is hurting the Democrats in the main stream elections.....
Hell even most black folks aren t for that "green haired...butch....I have a vagina but think I am a man" political movement.....
Tolerance is one thing but making "weird" a political agenda is another.
in other news..... Trump can't stop and he wont stop.
later.... after some time to marinate....
later.... after some time to marinate....
most definitely. That's the type of shit I do whenever I end up in a conversation with a newly political person... newly usually meaning someone who all the sudden became a political "expert" when Obama took office (although the same can be done with anyone from either side of the fence). I ask them a few questions like, quick without googling it, who represents your state in the U.S. Senate, who represents your district in the House of Rep, Name at least 4 current SCOTUS members, etc. DNC/RNC chair could be part of that little test and the vast majority of people would not be able to answer. Shit, a lot of people get hemmed up if you ask them to name the last 5 vice presidents.
There really is nobody right now outside of Elizabeth Warren & Sanders who I inspires passion, and the age thing will prevent him from carrying his shit over to 2020 most likely. Dude from Cali... Gavin Newsom I think may have a shot if he decides to go national, although he may be waiting on the Cali Governors office.
And that's fine... Just dont expect our vote...
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Fucking liar... "Extreme left" is a Republican catch phrase. You're a Republican.
I'm not a fucking anything son.
I was a Democrat, now in going independent.
I'm not a closet homosexual.
Young fellas like to go to the club and dance with guys like ODB,
The black church called Obama on the carpet foot that crap.
That's why we last the election.
You millinials think you have it all figured out while your still on
you're parents cellphone plan.
The only time you curse a man is face to face. At least that's the way we used to do it back in the day.
Half of the whites who voted for trump was voting against hillary.
The DNC has blamed everyone except themselves. If they would've ran anyone else, we would've won.
That bass mouth bitch Weiserman Shultz and big fella Donna Brazile lost the election not me.
They are telling you who to blame.
Trump, Putin, Russians, solar flares
anything except themselves for running an unpopular candidate. They cheated and Bernie still almost won.
An emotional reaction is a feminine response.
Eat a dick nigga. I know a Republican when I hear one.
There you go again. You young fellas can't have an intelligent conversation without getting emotional.
I think it's the soy the government has been feeding our young men that's been raising estrogen levels.
Must've hit a nerve about the cellphone plan.
I'm not a follower. I like to think fire myself.
I know I'm not the only brother on here who gets tired of politicians showing up to our churches begging for votes, never to show up again.
I'm not shamed to say that although I didn't vote for Trump, I didn't vote for Hillary either.
Tired of settling for a candidate.
I wouldn't draft for Tom Brady's wife for a quarterback, I wouldn't hire Urban Myers wife for a head coach. That's why and only why Hillary was a candidate, not because of anything she did.
Hillary got caught and fired by Obama. Obama didn't want to hire hillary but the DNC forced his hand and she still Fucked up. You don't delete 30,000 emails on a private server for no reason at all. I wouldn't doubt that Putin didn't hack into her server.
I think we blacks should hold the Democrats responsible for the lack of results. Our blind and loyal faith in a group that has not held their end of the deal.
I've been voting Democrat since Bill Clinton. Couldn't stomach hillary though.
It would be great if we all swapped and went independent.
Then and only then will the Democrats pay closer attention.
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Of course he's a Trumpkin fool.
The blood bath starts this summer
Everyone loves Bernie Sanders. Except, it seems, the Democratic party
If you look at the numbers, Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in America – and it’s not even close. Yet bizarrely, the Democratic party – out of power across the country and increasingly irrelevant – still refuses to embrace him and his message. It’s increasingly clear they do so at their own peril.
A new Fox News poll out this week shows Sanders has a +28 net favorability rating among the US population, dwarfing all other elected politicians on both ends of the political spectrum. And he’s even more popular among the vaunted “independents”, where he is at a mind boggling +41.
This poll is not just an aberration. Look at this Huffington Post chart that has tracked Sanders’ favorability rating over time, ever since he gained national prominence in 2015 when he started running for the Democratic nomination. The more people got to know him, they more they liked him – the exact opposite of what his critics said would happen when he was running against Clinton.
One would think with numbers like that, Democratic politicians would be falling all over themselves to be associated with Sanders, especially considering the party as a whole is more unpopular than the Republicans and even Donald Trump right now. Yet instead of embracing his message, the establishment wing of the party continues to resist him at almost every turn, and they seem insistent that they don’t have to change their ways to gain back the support of huge swaths of the country.
Politico ran a story just this week featuring Democratic officials fretting over the fact that Sanders supporters may upend their efforts to retake governorships in southern states by insisting those candidates adopt Sanders’ populist policies – seemingly oblivious to the fact that Sanders plays well in some of those states too.
Sanders’ effect on Trump voters can be seen in a gripping town hall this week that MSNBC’s Chris Hayes hosted with him in West Virginia – often referred to as “Trump country” – where the crowd ended up giving him a rousing ovation after he talked about healthcare being a right of all people and that we are the only industrialized nation in the world who doesn’t provide healthcare as a right to all its people.
But hand wringing by Democratic officials over 2018 candidates is really just the latest example: the establishment wing of the party aggressively ran another opponent against Keith Ellison, Sanders’ choice to run the Democratic National Committee, seemingly with the primary motivation to keep the party away from Sanders’ influence.
They’ve steadfastly refused to take giant corporations head on in the public sphere and wouldn’t even return to an Obama-era rule that banned lobbyist money from funding the DNC that was rescinded last year. And despite the broad popularity of the government guaranteeing health care for everyone, they still have not made any push for a Medicare-for-all plan that Sanders has long called for as a rebuttal to Republicans’ attempt to dismantle Obamacare.
Democrats seem more than happy to put all the blame of the 2016 election on a combination of Russia and James Comey and have engaged in almost zero introspection on the root causes of the larger reality: they are also out of power in not the presidency, but both also houses of Congress, governorships and state houses across the country as well.
As Politico reported on the Democrats’ post-Trump strategy in February, “Democratic aides say they will eventually shift to a positive economic message that Rust Belt Democrats can run on”. However: “For now, aides say, the focus is on slaying the giant and proving to the voters who sent Trump into the White House why his policies will fail.”
In other words, they’re doubling down on the exact same failing strategy that Clinton used in the final months of the campaign. Sanders himself put it this wayin his usual blunt style in an interview with New York magazine this week – when asked about whether the Democrats can adapt to the political reality, he said: “There are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats.”
In the long term, change may be coming for Democrats whether they like it or not. Sanders loyalists are quietly attempting to take over many local Democratic party positions around the country. While Ellison lost the race for the DNC chair, it was incredibly close – closer than Sanders came to beating Clinton. And Sanders’ supporters are already organizing primary challenges to incumbent Democrats who aren’t sufficiently opposing Trump.
One thing’s for sure: Democrats who refuse to change do so at their peril.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-loves-bernie-sanders-except-democratic-party
If you look at the numbers, Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in America – and it’s not even close. Yet bizarrely, the Democratic party – out of power across the country and increasingly irrelevant – still refuses to embrace him and his message. It’s increasingly clear they do so at their own peril.
A new Fox News poll out this week shows Sanders has a +28 net favorability rating among the US population, dwarfing all other elected politicians on both ends of the political spectrum. And he’s even more popular among the vaunted “independents”, where he is at a mind boggling +41.
This poll is not just an aberration. Look at this Huffington Post chart that has tracked Sanders’ favorability rating over time, ever since he gained national prominence in 2015 when he started running for the Democratic nomination. The more people got to know him, they more they liked him – the exact opposite of what his critics said would happen when he was running against Clinton.
One would think with numbers like that, Democratic politicians would be falling all over themselves to be associated with Sanders, especially considering the party as a whole is more unpopular than the Republicans and even Donald Trump right now. Yet instead of embracing his message, the establishment wing of the party continues to resist him at almost every turn, and they seem insistent that they don’t have to change their ways to gain back the support of huge swaths of the country.
Politico ran a story just this week featuring Democratic officials fretting over the fact that Sanders supporters may upend their efforts to retake governorships in southern states by insisting those candidates adopt Sanders’ populist policies – seemingly oblivious to the fact that Sanders plays well in some of those states too.
Sanders’ effect on Trump voters can be seen in a gripping town hall this week that MSNBC’s Chris Hayes hosted with him in West Virginia – often referred to as “Trump country” – where the crowd ended up giving him a rousing ovation after he talked about healthcare being a right of all people and that we are the only industrialized nation in the world who doesn’t provide healthcare as a right to all its people.
But hand wringing by Democratic officials over 2018 candidates is really just the latest example: the establishment wing of the party aggressively ran another opponent against Keith Ellison, Sanders’ choice to run the Democratic National Committee, seemingly with the primary motivation to keep the party away from Sanders’ influence.
They’ve steadfastly refused to take giant corporations head on in the public sphere and wouldn’t even return to an Obama-era rule that banned lobbyist money from funding the DNC that was rescinded last year. And despite the broad popularity of the government guaranteeing health care for everyone, they still have not made any push for a Medicare-for-all plan that Sanders has long called for as a rebuttal to Republicans’ attempt to dismantle Obamacare.
Democrats seem more than happy to put all the blame of the 2016 election on a combination of Russia and James Comey and have engaged in almost zero introspection on the root causes of the larger reality: they are also out of power in not the presidency, but both also houses of Congress, governorships and state houses across the country as well.
As Politico reported on the Democrats’ post-Trump strategy in February, “Democratic aides say they will eventually shift to a positive economic message that Rust Belt Democrats can run on”. However: “For now, aides say, the focus is on slaying the giant and proving to the voters who sent Trump into the White House why his policies will fail.”
In other words, they’re doubling down on the exact same failing strategy that Clinton used in the final months of the campaign. Sanders himself put it this wayin his usual blunt style in an interview with New York magazine this week – when asked about whether the Democrats can adapt to the political reality, he said: “There are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats.”
In the long term, change may be coming for Democrats whether they like it or not. Sanders loyalists are quietly attempting to take over many local Democratic party positions around the country. While Ellison lost the race for the DNC chair, it was incredibly close – closer than Sanders came to beating Clinton. And Sanders’ supporters are already organizing primary challenges to incumbent Democrats who aren’t sufficiently opposing Trump.
One thing’s for sure: Democrats who refuse to change do so at their peril.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-loves-bernie-sanders-except-democratic-party
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