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[Rollie_Fingaz]

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She is a 70-year-old broad. Do you want her to have a stroke over some little shits? Should she catch a case like I would have? She handled it the best way she could given her age. She could have easily ended up dead by stroke or heart failure given her age and physical condition. They talking about slicing her open and seeing what comes out? Come on man.

I'm glad she didn't break a hip or burst an artery over those little shits. Now if she were 30 years younger, I expect one of those kids is getting an ass beating.

What's fucked up is if she would have dumbed out they would probably sued her and she'd lose her job.

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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I turned from the news story every time. There is only one way to deal with kids like that....
Mr. Jerry Sandusky.

 

[TEN]

The little faggots had the shit slapped out of them yet?




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[gene cisco]

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I'm pretty sure her blood pressure was already worked up so it's not like she was having an easy time. Holding in her frustration and anger (where she's mad at them and herself) will just make it worse.
If she was 30 yrs younger, I still don't expect her to put hands on the kids because that would have been just as inappropriate.
And even if she was, they were still "threatening" to cut her open.

She did try to verbally stick up for herself at one point. The response?

"Shut THEEEEE fuuuck up fat ass!!!!"

The only thing she really held in is the punching she wanted to do, which we would agree was for the best. But her attempts to verbally defend herself were met with even greater hostility. She then tried to kill them with kindness by telling them she lives by the sayings on her purse.

 

[SloPoke]

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Aside from the money....


This shit is just sad. The level of disrespect in this world is utterly amazing.. Yet if she would hit one of them with a stun gin, she'd be in the wrong. This planet is becoming more pussified by the day, and I blame parents and child psychologist.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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Perhaps she was afraid. Fear can be paralyzing.

It can be but this wasn't a place where she should have been that afraid. She was the one in the position of authority. She had the upper hand and chose to lay back and be harassed by kids probably younger than her own grandchildren.

And although it may be true that back in the day adults knew how to handle children, this was not one or two children. She was ganged up on by four or five who were supported by a busload of others laughing at the four or five's antics. That's a good deal of pressure for one little old lady.

Then she has/had the wrong job.

And my "back in the day" is the damn 90s so when did the children take over?

It seems out of place for you to use yourself as an example - as far as what you would have done in a similar situation. You are a young Black man. Because of your Black manhood and relative youth, those primarily white young suburban turds would not have approached you in that manner. Given what your physicality would have visually presented to them, can you really put yourself in the shoes of a physically weak little old lady? Are you able to see that those kids picked on her because they clearly saw the vulnerability of HER physicality? Because they know she's not quick at the tongue like them? Is it plausible, that she felt her own vulnerability relative to several kids ganging up on her and felt intimidated, and the resulting fear might have been why she didn't put up more of a stand?

I had to reread my own posts because I didn't remember saying what I would do in her place and I didn't. I don't expect her to do what I would do but I do expect her to do something in her own defense as I expect of anybody. I don't hand out pity passes because you're an old White lady. If she's not physically disabled, she can do something other than let a bunch of asshole children talk to her in such a reckless, disrespectful manner.

...As a side note, I notice there was no intervention whatsoever, on the part of the bus driver.

Without knowing where they are on the bus, I can't put too much on the driver. It's the monitor's job to bring this to the driver's attention.

She did try to verbally stick up for herself at one point. The response?

"Shut THEEEEE fuuuck up fat ass!!!!"

The only thing she really held in is the punching she wanted to do, which we would agree was for the best. But her attempts to verbally defend herself were met with even greater hostility. She then tried to kill them with kindness by telling them she lives by the sayings on her purse.

Weak responses. There are different kinds of strength and restraint is one but that's not what she was exercising.
She's the authority figure, so use the one advantage she has: report the little shits.

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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The little faggots had the shit slapped out of them yet?




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[gene cisco]

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Weak responses. There are different kinds of strength and restraint is one but that's not what she was exercising.
She's the authority figure, so use the one advantage she has: report the little shits.

Bus driver was probably shook. Probably thinking "I'm glad they going in on her instead of me!" Driving the bus ignoring all that shit thinking "please don't bring that shit up here!! Please!!" I've seen shook bus drivers before. Fuck are they going to do? Kick them off the bus? Let's remember, they can't put hands on the kids and the kids know it.

When I was growing up in the 1980s, they had a school paddle for dumb shits like those kids. You'd get kicked off the bus(physically if need be) and spanked the next day.

Today's world?

Bus driver or monitor- "Get off the bus!"
Kid- "Make me you fat piece of shit, you blubbery, piss smelling pathetic fuck!!"
Bus driver or monitor - "Please can you get off the bus?"
Kid - "Drive bitch...I ain't got all day!"

 

[respiration]

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It can be but this wasn't a place where she should have been that afraid.

That's not for you to say.

She was the one in the position of authority. She had the upper hand and chose to lay back and be harassed by kids probably younger than her own grandchildren.

Evidently, she did NOT have authority nor the upper hand and again I maintain that for some, fear can be paralyzing. Not to mention, she may have not known what to say.*

Then she has/had the wrong job.

Agreed.

When she was interviewed, she said the kids never acted that badly before. Regardless, I don't think that's a job for an elderly lady.

And my "back in the day" is the damn 90s so when did the children take over?

Hard to say. My own "back in the day" is considerably further back than the 90s. But I'm beginning to think that "back in the day" is not relevant to this conversation. In our communities coming up, such behavior toward an elderly person was NOT tolerated. I would also maintain that given the level of adversity unique to our people that the elders went through in their lives, a tougher breed of old folk is what you and I are used to seeing.

That old white woman didn't have it like that, therefore her response - or lack of an aggressive response, doesn't surprise me in the least.

As for those kids, I would imagine their extreme behavior could be attributed to their parents' extreme permissiveness and lack of application of discipline. Something that's common with "progressive" white parents, as you know.

I had to reread my own posts because I didn't remember saying what I would do in her place and I didn't.

You're correct. You didn't specifically say that. This was what I was responding to:

if you're one of those people that allows people to treat you how they want, fine, I'm not and I don't understand people who are.

In order to make that statement, you would have had to have thought about what you would do if you were in her situation.

I don't expect her to do what I would do but I do expect her to do something in her own defense as I expect of anybody.

Everyone's different and hindsight is 20/20. I would expect children to show more respect to elderly people, but oftentimes people don't act in accordance with others' expectations.

I don't hand out pity passes because you're an old White lady. If she's not physically disabled, she can do something other than let a bunch of asshole children talk to her in such a reckless, disrespectful manner.

Perhaps SHE was embarassed, scared and overwhelmed and didn't feel that she could do anything but ride it out.

Without knowing where they are on the bus, I can't put too much on the driver. It's the monitor's job to bring this to the driver's attention.

Good point, and who knows whether the driver would have assisted her. The lady's just in the wrong line of work, bottom line.

 

[respiration]

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Bus driver was probably shook. Probably thinking "I'm glad they going in on her instead of me!" Driving the bus ignoring all that shit thinking "please don't bring that shit up here!! Please!!" I've seen shook bus drivers before. Fuck are they going to do? Kick them off the bus? Let's remember, they can't put hands on the kids and the kids know it.

When I was growing up in the 1980s, they had a school paddle for dumb shits like those kids. You'd get kicked off the bus(physically if need be) and spanked the next day.

Today's world?

Bus driver or monitor- "Get off the bus!"
Kid- "Make me you fat piece of shit, you blubbery, piss smelling pathetic fuck!!"
Bus driver or monitor - "Please can you get off the bus?"
Kid - "Drive bitch...I ain't got all day!"

It's hard for me to think of many jobs crappier than being a school bus driver.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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Bus driver was probably shook. Probably thinking "I'm glad they going in on her instead of me!" Driving the bus ignoring all that shit thinking "please don't bring that shit up here!! Please!!" I've seen shook bus drivers before. Fuck are they going to do? Kick them off the bus? Let's remember, they can't put hands on the kids and the kids know it.

When I was growing up in the 1980s, they had a school paddle for dumb shits like those kids. You'd get kicked off the bus(physically if need be) and spanked the next day.

Today's world?

Bus driver or monitor- "Get off the bus!"
Kid- "Make me you fat piece of shit, you blubbery, piss smelling pathetic fuck!!"
Bus driver or monitor - "Please can you get off the bus?"
Kid - "Drive bitch...I ain't got all day!"

I used to ride some wild buses in my day but whenever we got too wild, the bus drivers had no problem turning that bitch around and going back to school.

That's not for you to say. Evidently, she did NOT have authority nor the upper hand and again I maintain that for some, fear can be paralyzing. Not to mention, she may have not known what to say.*

She's the bus monitor, an official agent for the school, of course she had the authority. She at least had the authority to report those bastards to the bus driver.

Agreed.

When she was interviewed, she said the kids never acted that badly before. Regardless, I don't think that's a job for an elderly lady.

I didn't believe that bullshit. They chose that day to go in on her like that? Maybe it was never THAT bad but this wasn't the first time.

Hard to say. My own "back in the day" is considerably further back than the 90s. But I'm beginning to think that "back in the day" is not relevant to this conversation. In our communities coming up, such behavior toward an elderly person was NOT tolerated. I would also maintain that given the level of adversity unique to our people that the elders went through in their lives, a tougher breed of old folk is what you and I are used to seeing.

That old white woman didn't have it like that, therefore her response - or lack of an aggressive response, doesn't surprise me in the least.

I agree to a point but I grew up around a lot of different people and I never met an elderly person who would tolerate that kind of behavior directed towards them as meekly as that one did.

As for those kids, I would imagine their extreme behavior could be attributed to their parents' extreme permissiveness and lack of application of discipline. Something that's common with "progressive" white parents, as you know.

Absolutely and, I might add, many Black parents have fallen into the same trap.

You're correct. You didn't specifically say that. This was what I was responding to:In order to make that statement, you would have had to have thought about what you would do if you were in her situation.Everyone's different and hindsight is 20/20. I would expect children to show more respect to elderly people, but oftentimes people don't act in accordance with others' expectations.Perhaps SHE was embarassed, scared and overwhelmed and didn't feel that she could do anything but ride it out.

Gotcha. I no longer expect people, even kids, to do the right thing for the right reason (call me cynical) but I'm always stunned when I see people allow themselves to be victimized.

Good point, and who knows whether the driver would have assisted her. The lady's just in the wrong line of work, bottom line.

Children respect and appreciate guidelines and discipline and when it's lacking they act like animals. If you don't have it in you to enforce those things (without cursing or getting physical), you're in the wrong profession. She's one of those people. She probably thought it was an easy way to supplement her Social Security and ended up out of her depth.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

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[respiration]

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She probably thought it was an easy way to supplement her Social Security and ended up out of her depth.

Yep. Out of her depth...And into the big bucks.


LOL

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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Online video of bus monitor bullying stirs passion, anger

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ROCHESTER -- The pebble was tossed when a middle-school student in upstate New York posted a 10-minute video on his Facebook page.

The video, showing four other seventh-grade boys cruelly taunting 68-year-old bus monitor Karen Klein, was quickly uploaded to YouTube.

And the ripples began.

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Millions of viewers from around the world watched her humiliation. There were cries of indignation and sympathy, retribution and recompense. Through posts on social media and the user-generated news site Reddit.com, word spread geometrically, leading to a fund drive that began with a modest goal of $5,000 to help Klein take a nice vacation and scrub the foul memories of the last days of school from her mind.

By Friday afternoon, the drive had sailed past $550,000, with donations from more than 25,000 people.

Even in an increasingly connected, fast-moving world of information flow and echo, the response to Klein's plight is a stunning example of the power of people in the new, Me-Media era.

"Oh, my God," Klein told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday, when the total was around $370,000. She said it was "weird, very weird" to suddenly be an international celebrity and joked she'd have to go out in public disguised by a wig and dark glasses.

"I appreciate everything so much," she said. "It's just hard to believe strangers, people I never talked to, never seen, will send me a message saying, 'We love you, we think you're a great person.'" Lee Rainie, director of the Pew Internet Project and author of "Networked: The New Social Operating System," said these kinds of moments have occurred before, but he still called the sheer volume of the response to the Klein video "head-scratching."

"It kind of feels like there aren't boundaries to this stuff," said Rainie.

The formula is pretty simple, Rainie said: A lot of people passionate about what they do keep vigilant eyes on the Web and react instantly when something offends or delights. The speed and reach of the Web do the rest.

"It's clear there are any number of watchdogs, you can call them; cultural or civic observers who scan YouTube or pictures for evidence of bad behavior," he said.

"Once it sort of gets in the line of vision of the people who get mad about these things, they use the Web to sort of, first, exact their version of justice and secondly, to help people who are clear targets or victims. Obviously, there's a cascading networking effect on this."

The verbal abuse was captured in a 10-minute cellphone video recorded Monday by a student of Athena Middle School in the Rochester suburb of Greece. The video shows Klein trying her best to ignore the stream of profanity, insults and outright threats.

One student taunted: "You don't have a family because they all killed themselves because they don't want to be near you." Klein's oldest son killed himself 10 years ago.

Eventually, she appears to break down in tears.

Max Sidorov, the 25-year-old Canadian man who started the fund drive on the site Indiegogo.com started with modest goals. In an interview Friday with The Associated Press, the kinesiologist and nutritionist said he was bullied when he came to Canada from Ukraine, so he empathized with Klein and likened the taunting to "attacking the little guy."

"Only in my wildest dreams did I think the amount of money raised would reach this much. It's very amazing to put it lightly, the amount that she's got," he said.

Not all the feedback has been positive. Police in the Rochester suburb of Greece, N.Y., stepped up patrols around the houses of the middle-schoolers accused of taunting her. Police didn't name the boys, but their purported identities leaked out on the Web and at least one received death threats.

"There's a danger it turns into a vigilante sort of mob and people are misidentified," Rainie said. "These things can move very rapidly out of hand and make things miserable for the wrong people."

Police said Klein does not want the boys to face criminal charges, partly because of the storm of criticism leveled at them. The district will pursue disciplinary actions against all four students.

In the AP interview, Klein asked people to leave the boys alone.

"Threatening them? No. That's not the way to go about things," she said. "They're just kids."

"I don't want to judge anybody or put them in jail or anything like that. I just want them to learn a lesson."

---
Stevens reported from Albany, N.Y.

 

[tapdatass]

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i wonder if she would feel the same if they were black kids....

probably scream in terror and ant police action

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

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just saw on inside edition,they showed the father of one of the bullying kids personally apologizing to her..

 

[Deezz]

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The expression on this kids face is killin' me.....

 

[Cock Head Jones]

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http://www.indiegogo.com/love-for-max-too

Max is at $6000. Wonder if she's gonna break him off too?

 

[THE DRIZZY]

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She should donate some of the proceeds to anti-bullying organizations.

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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Students who bullied bus monitor suspended for a year

ROCHESTER (WABC) -- Four students who bullied a New York bus monitor have learned their punishment.

Each student will be suspended for a year after a cell phone clip of the verbal abuse went viral, with the students making fun of her weight and age.

In addition to the suspension, the four will have to do community service.

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After the clip made rounds on the internet, another website was created to raise money for the monitor to send her on vacation.

It has raised almost 6-hundred 70 "thousand" dollars.