DC Pastor: Black Lesbianism Epidemic

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By Lori Montgomery and Hamil R. Harris
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, August 3, 2005; Page B01

The Rev. Willie F. Wilson, who last week apologized for using "intemperate" language in a sermon about homosexuality, writes in a new posting on his church Web site that he remains deeply concerned about an "epidemic" of lesbianism among young black girls, calling it a "severe crisis" that threatens "the very survival of the Black family."

"The situation is so grave that it should be declared a national emergency," Wilson writes in a defense of his original sermon posted over the weekend on the Web site of Union Temple Baptist Church, where he is pastor.

"Our girls, some as young as 10 and 11 years of age, are engaging in same sex relations," Wilson writes, citing as evidence an incident in an unnamed "local school" where girls were "asked to report to the gymnasium" so school officials could "decipher how many girls were involved in same sex relations." Those who were, he writes, outnumbered those who had not been "by a 10 to 1 count."

Wilson, a prominent local minister who ran for D.C. mayor in 2002, is executive director of the Millions More Movement, a national celebration planned to mark the 10th anniversary of the Million Man March.

In his Web posting, Wilson apologizes "to any and all whom I offended" July 3, when he delivered a sermon at his Southeast Washington church describing gay sex in graphic terms. "But I do not apologize for bringing to the forefront a very critical and crucial issue facing our young girls," Wilson writes. "Though many clergy, parents, school administrators, teachers, community and youth workers are aware of this very serious situation, no one has addressed it."

The reaction to Wilson's latest treatise on homosexuality was swift and furious, with several gay leaders accusing him yesterday of peddling damaging stereotypes, and national experts saying his warnings lack any basis in fact.

Gay leaders said Wilson's remarks are particularly troubling given his role in the Millions More Movement. Gay rights groups say they have been shut out of planning for the October event despite public assurances from Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan that all black people, gay or straight, would be welcome. Farrakhan and Wilson have ignored phone calls, letters and e-mails from the National Black Justice Coalition, which represents black homosexuals, said Alexander Robinson, its chief executive.

Yesterday, Robinson said Wilson's church has made a considerable effort to reach out to gay African Americans. But given his remarks over the past few weeks, Robinson said, "the impact on gay and lesbian people is to believe he's homophobic, that he's intentionally scapegoating lesbians. He claims that's not what he's doing. But since there's no logic to or rational way of reading what he's saying, one is led to that conclusion."

Wilson has a history of making controversial remarks. In the mid-1980s, he accused an Asian storeowner of "disrespecting" one of his flock and said angry Ward 8 residents might have "cut his head off and rolled it down the street."

In his most recent Web posting, Wilson writes that teenage lesbianism is rampant in Washington and nationally, calling it "epidemic, endemic and pandemic in the Black community." He blames its spread on the fear of pregnancy and abusive men, as well as "same sex girls' gangs," which he says use threats and intimidation to lure other girls into the same-sex fold.

Wilson writes that he knows about such things "not from hearsay or theory, but through actual counseling of parents, grandparents and their daughters and granddaughters." He says the numbers of girls lured into lesbianism are "prolific, astounding and mind-boggling."

National experts on adolescent sexuality scoffed at Wilson's perceptions of a rising tide of lesbianism among black teenagers. Ritch C. Savin-Williams, who chairs the Department of Human Development at Cornell University, said fewer than 3 percent of adolescents in the average high school identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual.

"There is clearly evidence that more and more youth of all ethnicities are coming out and declaring their sexuality. But that's across the board," Savin-Williams said. "I don't think it's happening any more in the black community than in any other community."

As homosexuality among their peers becomes more visible, "you will have more kids experimenting who may not be quote-unquote really gay," added Lisa M. Diamond, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Utah who studies the development of sexual identity in young adults. "But folks who try it and are not actually gay don't tend to continue with it. They go back to dating the opposite sex."

Diamond said the notion that lesbianism is widespread among 10- and 11-year-olds "flies in the face of all the data ever collected."

Counselors who work in D.C. public schools said they are unaware of any rapid rise in the number of lesbians on school campuses. Nor had anyone heard of girls being herded into a gym and asked to reveal the nature of their sexual liaisons.

"No such event has taken place in D.C. public schools," said system spokeswoman Alexis Moore.

Wilson declined yesterday to provide specifics about that incident or other claims in his Web posting.

School board President Peggy Cooper Cafritz said some D.C. schools have reported that gangs of gay girls sometimes get into fights and otherwise "rebelliously strike out" at a society that ignores and alienates them. But that's a far cry, she said, from Wilson's assertion that gay gangs are recruiting girls to be lesbians.

"What he's talking about, I think, is pretty ignorant. I think it's based in ignorance," Cooper Cafritz said. "I don't think there's a rampant epidemic of lesbianism undermining heterosexual black society."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201914.html?sub=AR
 
so sad that this shit sub sub sub group of people are given this much prominence. reminds me of mainstream media and cosigning black promoting that majority of black men are down low.

crisis isnt probably 1 percent of young girls engaging in prepubescent humping. crisis is 10 percent unemployment rate nationally for blacks when the nation as a whole is at 5.

i can never understand why blacks and people in general allow themselves to be distracted by bullshit.
 
Greed said:
so sad that this shit sub sub sub group of people are given this much prominence. reminds me of mainstream media and cosigning black promoting that majority of black men are down low.

crisis isnt probably 1 percent of young girls engaging in prepubescent humping. crisis is 10 percent unemployment rate nationally for blacks when the nation as a whole is at 5.

i can never understand why blacks and people in general allow themselves to be distracted by bullshit.
If his flock knew they were broke they wouldn't tithe. Gotta keep their minds occupied with other things.
 
Zero said:
If his flock knew they were broke they wouldn't tithe. Gotta keep their minds occupied with other things.
So, that "Our girls, some as young as 10 and 11 years of age, are engaging in same sex relations," ... and that "Those who were ... outnumbered those who had not been "by a 10 to 1 count", if true, only merits comment about tithes ???


QueEx
 
It all sounds like bullshit to me. And what school was this that did this bizarre informal survey of girls' sexuality, and why?
 
"Counselors who work in D.C. public schools said they are unaware of any rapid rise in the number of lesbians on school campuses. Nor had anyone heard of girls being herded into a gym and asked to reveal the nature of their sexual liaisons.

"No such event has taken place in D.C. public schools," said system spokeswoman Alexis Moore."

But hey, if you're going to pretend God talks to you, and so on and so forth, what's a little more lying? I call bullshit.
 
Zero said:
If his flock knew they were broke they wouldn't tithe. Gotta keep their minds occupied with other things.
and thats the difference between you and your kind on this board and me.

you think this is some evil scheme for a black church/preacher to get cash out of his flock and i would classify the preacher as misguided with no malice.

but of course when confronted you and others will say you have all the respect in the world for religion, black churches, and black religious leaders. then act mystified when no one believes you.
 
Actually, Greed, I looked at their site. he teaches his flock to give one-tenth of their money to him. To me that's a scheme, and a good one.

They OWE one-tenth to the chirch, according to the web site. They can also give "offerings" on top of that if they wish.

Takes a lot of money for him to be able to do his investigative work finding out about supposed school assemblies called for the purpose of finding out which girls are lesbians. Info like that doesn't come cheap I'm sure.

Tell me, WTF is so bad about thinking for yourself, or admitting you don't have "the answers" to the big questions? Why are humans so eager to act as sheep? Makes me sick.
 
African Herbsman said:
Whether you agree or disagree, it's about time someone spoke on it. That shit is pandemic here in Houston.

Agreed.

I live here in Houston,

and yeah,

it IS about time someone spoke on it.
 
shit..come to NYC..

i was talking about this on the old board last year..
 
QueEx said:
So, that "Our girls, some as young as 10 and 11 years of age, are engaging in same sex relations," ... and that "Those who were ... outnumbered those who had not been "by a 10 to 1 count", if true, only merits comment about tithes ???


QueEx

yes, most of us see through fake preachers/revolutionaries.

lesbianism isnt something new, but these dyke gangs seem crazy.
it seems like a symptom, not the whole problem.

man there are so many bi-sexual white girls down here in florida. they be fuckin inside high schools. i blame extasy, the sex drug on alot of it.
 
Greed said:
and thats the difference between you and your kind on this board and me.

you think this is some evil scheme for a black church/preacher to get cash out of his flock and i would classify the preacher as misguided with no malice.

but of course when confronted you and others will say you have all the respect in the world for religion, black churches, and black religious leaders. then act mystified when no one believes you.
I lived in DC, I've been hearing abut this dude since the late 80's and he has always been on some sensationalized shit.

And no, I don't have all the respect in the world for the church or organized religion as a whole, black or white and who really gives a shit if a negatron like yourself believes me or not. The church's (not all, but a growing number and FAR more than should be expected) have been consistantly failling our community while at the same time acting in a parasitic manor, what's to like or respect about that.

BTW, what's me and my kindl?

Que, what he says is unsubstantiated bullshit, so yes I made a comment about tithes. The rest deserved little or no comment. Just another preacher creating a fake panic to generate media attention and membership rolls. Shit goes on all the time.
 
you know who you and your kind is. just count all the people you cosign with and cosign with you. your default position in all these threads about religion and blacks is a preacher intentions are to milk his church members.

no wonder the church hasnt been able to accomplish what it use to with people like you undermining each one no matter what its goals are.

just lump them all together with your negative default position.
 
Que, what he says is unsubstantiated bullshit, so yes I made a comment about tithes. The rest deserved little or no comment. Just another preacher creating a fake panic to generate media attention and membership rolls. Shit goes on all the time.
I respectfully disagree. The issue the pastor raises should be one of acute interest in our communities. If what he say is "untrue", and you know it to be untrue, I would have expected your response to have turn his misstatement on its head. He could be the sensationalist you say he is -- but even people who are usually wrong are right, sometimes.

QueEx
 
QueEx said:
So, that "Our girls, some as young as 10 and 11 years of age, are engaging in same sex relations," ... and that "Those who were ... outnumbered those who had not been "by a 10 to 1 count", if true, only merits comment about tithes ???


QueEx
Dude runs his church out of SE Washington, D.C. and can't find any other cause to take up besides rampant lesbianism? He could look out of his window and find 30 causes to take up within a couple of blocks of his building. Lesbians are exciting, poverty is boring. Lesbians put asses in seats, homelessness doesn't. Graphic descriptions of lesbian sex fill pews, crime does not.
 
QueEx said:
I respectfully disagree. The issue the pastor raises should be one of acute interest in our communities. If what he say is "untrue", and you know it to be untrue, I would have expected your response to have turn his misstatement on its head. He could be the sensationalist you say he is -- but even people who are usually wrong are right, sometimes.

QueEx
He didn't base his claims on any study and those that would be better "in the know" about what is going on with kids claim to have not seen any significant change in homosexual activity.

And honestly, if my kid came home and said an assembly was called asking who in the student body has had sex with someone of the same gender, I'd be up there with my lawyer, that is EXTREMELY inappropriate and I have my doubts it ever happened. I also have my doubts about the prevelance of lesbian "gangs" forcing girls to adopt a lifestyle (he didn't say they were raping girls, he said they were forcing them to become lesbian). I give this guy 0 credence for any of his claims and it sounds like a sensationalist attention grab more than anything else.
 
"Gayness may touch you too, may take your little girl, if you don't give Jesus his 10%. Can I get an Amen".

"I see your teenaged boy talks with a lisp and holds his book like a girl. I'll say a double prayer for you tonight, brother, if you just give me your tithe. I'll give you two prayers for the price of one, just clip out the coupon on the last page of the hymnal. Oh, glory be to Jesus, remove the gayness from this boy and DO NOT let Satan penetrate him".
 
Another thing, nationally, there is no epidemic of "gayness", just more gay people feeling comfortable with being open about it. The only group I know that appears to be actively recruiting young people into this lifestyle is the clergy itself (primarily catholic), outside of that and maybe prison rapists, I just haven't seen any evidence of aggressive recruiting of heterosexuals by the gay community. I don't really care to see two guys kissing in public, but it's never made me want to join in. D.C has always had a large gay community and it's not growing because of recruitment, it's growing because it (like Atlanta, Houston, San Fran, NYC etc.) is seen as a place that is tolerant of the lifestyle and gays choose to live there.
 
EXCERPTS FROM THE SERMON

Rev. Willie Wilson
"You’ve Got to Fight to Be Free"
Union Temple Baptist Church
July 3, 2005
(As published in The Washington Blade)

"We live in a time when our brothers have been so put down, can’t get a job, lot of the sisters making more money than brothers. And it’s creating problems in families. That’s one of the reasons our families’ breaking up. And that’s one of the reasons many of our women are becoming lesbians. "

Does anyone here know a woman who is not gay but went that way anyway?

"You got to be careful when you say you don’t need no man. I can make it by myself. Well, if you don’t need a man, what’s left? Lesbianism is about to take over our community. I’m talking about young girls. My son in high school last year, trying to go to the prom, he said, ‘Dad, I ain’t got nobody to take to the prom because all the girls in my class are gay. There ain’t but two of them straight and both of them are ugly. I ain’t got nobody to take to the prom.’ "

Well that proves it. In fact it also proves why 10 out of the last 11 women in DC I put the moves on didn't respond favorably ...

"Now, can I talk here? I ain’t homophobic, because everybody in here got something wrong with him. Whoever you point at, you can point at your own self. You got something wrong with your life. But when you get down to this thing, women falling down on another woman, strapping yourself up with something, it ain’t real. That thing ain’t got no feeling in it. It ain’t natural. "

Most lesbians don't use strap-ons most of the time.

"Any time somebody got to slap some grease on your behind, and stick something in you, it’s something wrong with that. Your butt ain’t made for that. [Audience shouts and yells its approval in the background.] You got blood vessels and membranes in your behind. And if you put something unnatural in there, it breaks them all up. No wonder your behind is bleeding. It’s destroying us. "

Funny how the acts of gay men affect his idiot parishionersso deeply ... back to the closet, fags!

"Can’t make no connection with a screw and another screw. The Bible says God made them male and female. The Hebrew word "neged," which means complementary nature — there is something unique to man and unique to woman and it takes those two things to complement each other. You can’t make a connection with two screws. It takes a screw and a nut! (shouting)."

He's pro-sex? But it has to be pussy sex?
 
"I just haven't seen any evidence of aggressive recruiting of heterosexuals by the gay community."

I've never seen any in my life. I can't imagine what it would look like.
 
Blame this shit on "The Gay Agenda"! It's the new fad to be a homo livin in America. These young girls talkin about they lesbians and ain't even had no dick yet is stupid. I know this one young girl that lives in my hood that was talkin that dumb shit. It's the new "in thing" for right now, but in time this shit will pass and get played just like bell bottoms and disco.
 
The guy can be a con artist and still be right about this. A lot of black women are engaging in same sex relationships, why, I don't know, but as one who use to encouraging the pratice I am now concerned about the number of sistas that are turning to other women I don't see how anything good can come out of it.
 
Rocky Miavia said:
... It's the new "in thing" for right now, but in time this shit will pass and get played just like bell bottoms and disco.
Really ??? Its my understanding that it was relatively rare to find Black men in the 60's and 70's that engaged in the art of cunnilingus -- but now eat the hairs off of a pussy .... :lol:

QueEx
 
nittie said:
... as one who use to encouraging the pratice I am now concerned about the number of sistas that are turning to other women I don't see how anything good can come out of it.
You have to be careful what you ask for :eek:

QueEx
 
Rocky Miavia said:
Blame this shit on "The Gay Agenda"! It's the new fad to be a homo livin in America. These young girls talkin about they lesbians and ain't even had no dick yet is stupid. I know this one young girl that lives in my hood that was talkin that dumb shit. It's the new "in thing" for right now, but in time this shit will pass and get played just like bell bottoms and disco.
Gays have MONEY and ain't afraid to spend it. The media knows they have money and WANT as much of it as they can, so they pander to gays. Per capita, a gay household tends to have more expendable cash than any other type of adult household. When blacks took their big per-capita income jump in the 90's, they were pandered to by the media in a similar fashion, the media anticipates hispanics will be making the jump soon and they have begun to pander to them. The "gay agenda" wouldn't exist if they didn't have the cashflow to influence advertisers. I think some of the shit being done to appease homosexuals is kinda irresponsible in the media, but I honestly don't think they are recruiting in any significant numbers (if your straight, generally, your straight unless you've been having "feelings" on the DL and hiding it).

Gays have always been there in about the same numbers, folks just weren't noticing them because they were "in the closet". A lot of kids have confused feelings during puberty, but it was never accepted as something they could speak on openly, so they didn't, now it's acceptable, so they feel comfortable speaking about those feelings openly. I know MANY females (more than I would have ever imagined) that experimented with other females in their younger years, but it was just that, experimenting and all of the ones I know are in conventional relationships now. The shit was just another skeleton in their closets (like the train that got run on them in college or the guy they met at the club and sucked off without knowing his name) until recently when it was something they felt they could talk about openly. Just like women aren't necessarily fucking more than they did in the past, they just feel OK about letting it be known.

Peeps are emptying the boneyards in their closets, I think that's all this really is.
 
Greed said:
you know who you and your kind is. just count all the people you cosign with and cosign with you. your default position in all these threads about religion and blacks is a preacher intentions are to milk his church members.

no wonder the church hasnt been able to accomplish what it use to with people like you undermining each one no matter what its goals are.

just lump them all together with your negative default position.
Man, if the posts appear that way it's most likely because most (not all) preachers that make these controvercial stances like this tend to be grandstanding. Not my fault there is an "epidemic" of sheisty preachers in this country. I don't lump them all together, but I will question the ones that come off as crooks and the ones in the spotlight tend to BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT for that reason.

And you kill me with this notion that anybody that doesn't agree with you is some kind of extremist and is cosigning everyone esle who disagrees with you. I gotta be fucking Armstrong Williams to appear "objective" in your eyes? Well that's not what I believe in. There are plenty of people who claim "right leaning" on this board that I agree with on certain issues, but that Bill O'Reilly "attack instead of debate" bullshit you pull is a major turn off to me. Sorry dog, but that's just the way it is, everybody can't agree about everything.
 
Due to my job, I'm back & forth between my hometown, New Orleans, and Houston, Texas. All I can say is that the number of lesbian women, black or white, that I see on a daily basis is almost scary. I think percentage-wise, black women are turning on each other at a much higher rate.

What's funny is that most of them claim to be driven that way because of a lack (perceived) of good men. I think that's straight B.S.
 
This lesbian shit is spreading like wildfire, you don't need to open a study to realize this, all you have to do is walk out in the real world, where I lived in Kansas City there was a shitload of girls experimenting in girl/girl sex and saying their lesbians trying to act cool, now out here in Cali its off the charts. The again I feel like a hypocrite because I don't mind a little girl/girl love if it benefits me, or if I get to watch. :cool:
 
Gods_Favorite said:
This lesbian shit is spreading like wildfire, you don't need to open a study to realize this, all you have to do is walk out in the real world, where I lived in Kansas City there was a shitload of girls experimenting in girl/girl sex and saying their lesbians trying to act cool, now out here in Cali its off the charts. The again I feel like a hypocrite because I don't mind a little girl/girl love if it benefits me, or if I get to watch. :cool:

Look at this IM conversation between this guy and some young black bisexual woman. I could see older women molesting these young girls because they are just stupid. I thought this was a joke when I first read it. This is scary.

Interviewer: Hey you

Woman: hey u
Interviewer: Whats with the profile?

Woman: what ya mean
Interviewer: Your male or female thing?

Woman: I like women and men
Interviewer: oh ok

Woman: you tryna get down
Interviewer: I’m just curious about bi-sexual black women

Woman: what about
Interviewer: I don’t see many around

Woman: shit there is a lot of more than people know
Interviewer: Really

Woman: yeah.
Interviewer: Would you marry a woman

Woman: nope man either
Interviewer: You wouldn’t get married.

Woman: no I like having fun
Interviewer: So you a playerette huh

Woman: lol kinda
Interviewer: How many women have you been with

Woman: a lot
Interviewer: More women or more men

Woman: women fa sho
Interviewer: How many
Woman: like 55 so far
Interviewer: 55 different women so far or is that 55 times with women

Woman: 55 diffent women lol u jealous
Interviewer: No. How many men?

Woman: maybe 12 or 13 diffent
Interviewer: So you like women more I guess.

Woman: repeat but yeah
Interviewer: Do you use protection with your partners?
Woman: not the women but the men fa sho
Interviewer: Why just with men?

Woman: i don’t want hiv or a baby
Interviewer: You can get hiv from a woman
Woman: NO U CANT
Interviewer: Yes you can.

Woman: everybody know hiv is in a mans sperm thats why men get it from other men
Interviewer: If you go down on a woman with out protection you can get it from a woman also.
Woman: NOT TRUE
Interviewer: WTF? Do you seriously think you can only get HIV from a man?

Woman: the proof is out here
Interviewer: Where?

Woman: on the innernet, on opra, and in books I read
Interviewer: I never saw anything that said you can only get it from a man. Do you actually read?

Woman: u got a pic
Interviewer: I don’t send out pics.

Woman: no i sent u me
Interviewer: ok brb

Woman: k
Interviewer: Nice, you are gorgeous. Why put yourself out like that?

Woman: i know thats y women come up to me first
Interviewer: lesbians and men

Woman: not just dem some who never done it before
Interviewer: Women with curiosity
Woman: a lot of dem
Interviewer: Damn.

Woman: lol
Interviewer: What do you do just give them the panties?

Woman: no they gotta have some money
Interviewer: You charge them.

Woman: no I aint no hoe but they gotta be able to treat me right
Interviewer: OK, there is a difference
Woman: fa sho
Interviewer: Right right lol

Woman: whateva
Interviewer: Oprah never said a woman can’t catch HIV from a woman.

Woman: yes she did
Interviewer: No she hasn’t

Woman: her show is about women getin it from men
Interviewer: Those shows were about GAY men perpetrating that they were straight, DL men.
Woman: we talk about that
Interviewer: we who, lesbians

Woman: im not a lesbian im bi
Interviewer: But who talks about this?

Woman: me and my girls
Interviewer: About what?

Woman: the older ladys tell us about how men want to control us and how hiv is made to kill women
Interviewer: That’s crazy because men died from AIDS and can catch HIV.
Woman: why so many black women getting it
Interviewer: Uhhh maybe because they are LICKING each other without protection.

Woman: NO NO NO hiv is in the sperm and it turns to aids when it gets into a woman
Interviewer: Why would anyone tell you this?

Woman: sisterhood is looking out for black women
Interviewer: Sisterhood?

Woman: yeah black women
Interviewer: You mean black lesbians right?
Woman: no all black women are together we don’t help men and we not havin babys for them either
Interviewer: Those sound like lesbians to me, but if you say not then maybe not.

Woman: r u white
Interviewer: No, why

Woman: just askin
Interviewer: Ok

Woman: you don’t know how much power we got
Interviewer: Power, who the sisterhood?
Woman: yeah, we got opra, condi, and they the most powerful women
Interviewer: They have positions of power but I don’t think they support your beliefs.

Woman: they lesbians
Interviewer: Not Condi, not sure about Oprah either because she was with a man for a long time.

Woman: she frontin wont conme out but still suppot us
Interviewer: How does she support you?
Woman: not me but the sistehood
Interviewer: With what money?

Woman: with stuff about men
Interviewer: What stuff about men?

Woman: if it wasnt opra we wouldnt no about hiv from men
Interviewer: OPRAH never said that!

Woman: u mad because we know
Woman: u cant chang my mind
Interviewer: How or why would I do that?

Woman: u cant
Interviewer: I’m just trying to learn about you and now your friends.

Woman: why we gonna take ova watch
Interviewer: Take over what?
Woman: errythin women will be in charg
Interviewer: That is a big attempt, who told you that?

Woman: that’s what we doin open yo eyes boy
Interviewer: Yes sure now I see.

Woman: good u want me huh
Interviewer: NO NO NO LOL
Woman: yeah you do all men want this but cant get wit it
Interviewer: You might want to check your facts on HIV.

Woman: hiv comes from men sperm
Interviewer: You are one lost young lady and those sick fools that tell you these things.

Woman: don’t hate
Interviewer: I hate the fact that so many young sisters are as ignorant as you.
Woman: f*ck you bish
Interviewer: No, you probably already have aids. Go get tested.

Woman: dont have to I dont let men sperm even touch me
Interviewer: Sad and lost young lady. SMH!

Woman: men are the ones that lost we on to them
Interviewer: You really need some therapy
Woman: you need some p*ssy
Interviewer: Not right now and not from you.
Woman: i can get p*ssy and d*ck not u
Interviewer: I don’t go both ways.

Woman: u cant but we can
Interviewer: ????

Woman: nobody like dl men but they like us
Interviewer: They who and us who?
 
I can't say I'm not hearing anything like this. My cousin's 13 or 14 year old son is starting to date, in DC. He told his mom frankly, most of the girls in his class are either hos who try top get boys to buy them shoes and stuff for sex, or playing gay.

I know there is a problem with teenaged girls whoring themselves at younger and younger ages for mall goods. It sounds like in some urban areas that's getting really out of hand, and the gay angle plays into it too - which is actually safer, I feel. For my 2 cents the objectification of black femininity in rap music and the proliferation of that music into youth culture has a lot to do with this.

The solution is not the church. The solution is an awareness of how negative and incorrect the rap and other influences are that make 13 year old girls think all their life's worth is pussy for Nikes, their lack of pride in womanhood.
 
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