David Banner Vs Master P (who Is Right??)

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Neither are right.... They were both blinded by their own egos. D.Banner is a smart cat. Master P is a smart cat. Banner is attempting to express the heart of the streets and Master P is offering an alternative. Both are valid view points.

They are points on an evolving spectrum. My take in it all is that we must individually become better. You cant take the block with you on the heros quest. It is individual. The cats you leave behind wont understand you or appreciate the work being put in. MLK, Malcolm X, Christ, Mohammed, Ghandi, Einstein, Edison all geniuses took the heros quest and isolated themselves apart from the dogma of the day to bring hear the call that became translated as something new into the world. A better you make a better world.

Banner is too angry......as justified as he may be it comes across rogue. Master P comes across as looking for redemption and atonement. Both dispalyed a lack of social skills in presenting themselves. WHich in itself is horrible....... D.Banner was SGA President at Southern and Master P is one of the richest black folk out there. I dont judge them because life evolved them progressively to who they presented for us to observe on the video..................
 
I ain't even gonna watch this. I'mma just say David Banner off the strength of this:

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NOT A GOOD LOOK MY NINJA
 
listening to the first part david banner's part about stopping someone from doing something wrong so that they can prgoress is stupid. as someone who went through it, Master P is supposed to say to a young dude which way to do it so that the young guy doesn't make the same mistakes. so when david banner says that why close the door, he is missing the point, you're closing the door to the negative choices and opening another with more positive results.
 
David Banner's attitude reminds me of myself as a kid. Master P's attitude reminds me of myself as an adult.
 
I ain't even gonna watch this. I'mma just say David Banner off the strength of this:

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i hate when people bring irrelevent stuff into an attempt at intelligent discussion. It's funny because i think sometimes David Banner forces himself to regress and be the hood savior when everyone knows he's a college educated school cat and presents himself in that manner so that the streets get behind him. Master P i think just has a lack of being able to speak publicly and lead in this new way he is trying to do things. i dont think either of them was accurately addressing the issues at hand.
 
has percy ever renounced selling crack and glorifying violence or does he pretend he was never the ice cream man?
 
has percy ever renounced selling crack and glorifying violence or does he pretend he was never the ice cream man?


he says thats his past and he grew up from that, isnt that the goal anyway?

me personally i dont anything wrong with selling drugs in the first place

specially if u live in the hood, got a plan and are extra focused
 
he says thats his past and he grew up from that, isnt that the goal anyway?

me personally i dont anything wrong with selling drugs in the first place

specially if u live in the hood, got a plan and are extra focused
selling drugs and what goes with it in urban america is cannibalism for black men and women

wtf does grew up from that mean? now he's focused on bigger crimes?

isnt what the goal anyway?
 
P is full of it! This nigga is trying to save his own ass not anyone else check this Romeo is going to college (no more nickolodeon) and P is dancing with the stars if he came out with an album who would cop it no one , remember the part in Rosewood when that cracka told the other one you just got rich off Nigga Money well P has done that and now all the sudden he saw the light Bullshit!!!!!
 
P is full of it! This nigga is trying to save his own ass not anyone else check this Romeo is going to college (no more nickolodeon) and P is dancing with the stars if he came out with an album who would cop it no one , remember the part in Rosewood when that cracka told the other one you just got rich off Nigga Money well P has done that and now all the sudden he saw the light Bullshit!!!!!
shhhhh these people dont want to see or believe anything like that
fuckin ghetto carpetbagger faggotry
 
I think the worse part is you got Cornell West.... THE BLACK INTELLECTUAL .... letting that bufoonery to go on without taking a objective clairity to their perspectives.... He sat back for too long in my opinion..... but to each his own............
 
I need about 2 hours to have a talk with David Banner. That Negro has some displaced aggression and he needs to check himself with the disrespecting of the elders. Some things need to be kept in the house and dealt with accordingly. Too many negroes have lost the concept of respectfully disagreeing with elders...It happened during the Civil Rights Movement all the time...
 
he says thats his past and he grew up from that, isnt that the goal anyway?

me personally i dont anything wrong with selling drugs in the first place

specially if u live in the hood, got a plan and are extra focused

Are you serious? Selling dope is the cause of at least 90% of all the murders in the hood.
 
David Banner's attitude reminds me of myself as a kid. Master P's attitude reminds me of myself as an adult.

Yep. Like how back in the day we use to Respect Malcolm and call Martin a Punk. But as we got older, we understood why Martin did what he did.
 
I believe P would have had a point, had he not come in talking about a point that was not on the table at the time. As far as what he was trying to address as far as David Banners disrespect and lack of tact as far as Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson wis concerned, I side with P, but he came out of left field with it, because that aint what they were talking about when he came LATE.

And Banner spends too much time trying to pretend he doesn't know what he knows so that he can appear hood and relate, hoping that that will transfer to record sales. He is a prisoner in his own character.

And whoever that is talking about selling drugs aint wrong, kill yourself.
:yes::yes:
 
Are you serious? Selling dope is the cause of at least 90% of all the murders in the hood.

yea but thats the animals, smart people do it on the low, u can sell dope withouth ever even having to pull a trigger

you see all those animals outside on the corner? their stupid, they will forever have beef and get caught, those are the guys that have no goals, the guys that get locked up for 5 years and come out right back on that corner, the guys that just wanna hustle for the rest of their lives, the guys that dont mind doing fed time cuz u can eat mcdonalds, rock jordans, watch tv and play xbox360 in there lol

real niggaz do it on the low and never get caught, i know people that have been hustling for years and have never seen a cell, and have never pulled a trigger
 
yea but thats the animals, smart people do it on the low, u can sell dope withouth ever even having to pull a trigger

you see all those animals outside on the corner? their stupid, they will forever have beef and get caught, those are the guys that have no goals, the guys that get locked up for 5 years and come out right back on that corner, the guys that just wanna hustle for the rest of their lives, the guys that dont mind doing fed time cuz u can eat mcdonalds, rock jordans, watch tv and play xbox360 in there lol

real niggaz do it on the low and never get caught, i know people that have been hustling for years and have never seen a cell, and have never pulled a trigger

Ok Judas...
 
And Banner spends too much time trying to pretend he doesn't know what he knows so that he can appear hood and relate, hoping that that will transfer to record sales. He is a prisoner in his own character.

:yes: Co-sign.

This is the mindset of a lot of rappers and common folk alike.
 
yea but thats the animals, smart people do it on the low, u can sell dope withouth ever even having to pull a trigger

you see all those animals outside on the corner? their stupid, they will forever have beef and get caught, those are the guys that have no goals, the guys that get locked up for 5 years and come out right back on that corner, the guys that just wanna hustle for the rest of their lives, the guys that dont mind doing fed time cuz u can eat mcdonalds, rock jordans, watch tv and play xbox360 in there lol

real niggaz do it on the low and never get caught, i know people that have been hustling for years and have never seen a cell, and have never pulled a trigger

Wow you REALLY think selling DEATH is okay? And the only thing wrong with it is how you sell it? Sir...please...please...please don't reproduce.:smh:
 
has percy ever renounced selling crack and glorifying violence or does he pretend he was never the ice cream man?

If you listened to No Limit back in the day...then you know P would always say, "hustle until you get enough, then get out the game"

P is full of it! This nigga is trying to save his own ass not anyone else check this Romeo is going to college (no more nickolodeon) and P is dancing with the stars if he came out with an album who would cop it no one , remember the part in Rosewood when that cracka told the other one you just got rich off Nigga Money well P has done that and now all the sudden he saw the light Bullshit!!!!!

Consumers are funny...now they quit buying a gangster rapper's music after he's made so much money because they don't believe him anymore, so when the rapper uses the money to better themselves...consumers criticize em for using them & then 'selling out'. Niggas are full of shit. P spitting some other shit..angry niggas can't relate because they're too busy tongue wrasslin. The shelf life of a gangsta rapper is about 2 to 3 albums, after that are they suppose to disappear? Especially one who made $400 million over 3 years. P became the ultimate huslter & is now trying to show cats what to do after they make it & niggas down talk him:smh:
 
David Banner is only mad because his bread and butter is being attacked. He wants rappers to have the right to rap about the same bullshit over and over again....rims, hoes and money. I made the mistake of turning on the radio the other day and left feeling like I had burned up the last few brain cells I'm trying to hold onto.

Young cats will never understand this. Hell if you told me NWA was on some bullshit when they first came out "I myself" would have cussed you out. So it's hard to tell youngsters that the music they listen to is straight trash. Thank God for downloading chipping away at the music sales of rap music every second.
 
Are you serious? Selling dope is the cause of at least 90% of all the murders in the hood.

You're an idiot!!! I'm from Los Angeles California and murders occur here over money, jealousy, bitches and gangs!!! Yeah some are drug related but the majority have nothing to do with selling drugs. You have no idea what goes in the "hood". Keep your ignorant opinions to yourself Piss Pot!!!

But bacc to the subject at hand. This is a good ass debate and I'm just glad that it's now a subject...that's a start. I respect all of their points of view because it's their opinions. they both have weak and strong points. P says he's so grown that he doesn't have to talk about what he does for the community but every time i hear him he's talking about what he's doing for the community. Banner has a good point but it's coming out in the fashion that everyone is condemning. Loud and profane and it's by the time it get's to it's destination everyone is focused on how he said it instead of what he said.
 
David Banner is only mad because his bread and butter is being attacked. He wants rappers to have the right to rap about the same bullshit over and over again....rims, hoes and money. I made the mistake of turning on the radio the other day and left feeling like I had burned up the last few brain cells I'm trying to hold onto.

Young cats will never understand this. Hell if you told me NWA was on some bullshit when they first came out "I myself" would have cussed you out. So it's hard to tell youngsters that the music they listen to is straight trash. Thank God for downloading chipping away at the music sales of rap music every second.

David banner doesn't even rap about rims, money and hoes. :confused::confused::confused: have you listened to any of his cd's?

And 2nd, I don't think he wants rappers to have the right to rap about the same bullshit over and over. Like all the other vocal artists, I think he just wants rappers to have the right to rap about whatever the fucc they want to rap about. I don't listen to the radio because most of the shit on there is for kids and/or is garbage. But I have the option to turn it off and let them get their spins and bread. I download the shit that i like and can relate to, the other shit I do what everyone seems like they have a problem doing.....I don't listen to it!!!!
 
David banner doesn't even rap about rims, money and hoes. :confused::confused::confused: have you listened to any of his cd's?

And 2nd, I don't think he wants rappers to have the right to rap about the same bullshit over and over. Like all the other vocal artists, I think he just wants rappers to have the right to rap about whatever the fucc they want to rap about. I don't listen to the radio because most of the shit on there is for kids and/or is garbage. But I have the option to turn it off and let them get their spins and bread. I download the shit that i like and can relate to, the other shit I do what everyone seems like they have a problem doing.....I don't listen to it!!!!

Did you actually read my post? I Said "He wants rappers to have the right to rap about the same bullshit over and over again....rims, hoes and money". I didn't say he (himself) rapped about that shit (at least not all the time, if you want to call "like a pimp" good 'ole Christian music)!

I'm talking about rappers in general who produce bullshit music talking about "how rich they are" and how many "hoes" they have...over and over again. I think most of the shit on the radio is fucking inappropriate for the radio at 3 in the afternoon when kids can listen to that bullshit. I applaud Master P (Even though it's suspect) that he's making a move to the positive....
 
banner tryin to come off to street here and this is really not the forum for it,i think folks gotta start being honest with themself and act their age.
banner debates like someone in their teens or early twenties all body language an not really saying much.
damn we are so unnecessarily emotional when we speak.<--just an observation.
 
Did you actually read my post? I Said "He wants rappers to have the right to rap about the same bullshit over and over again....rims, hoes and money". I didn't say he (himself) rapped about that shit (at least not all the time, if you want to call "like a pimp" good 'ole Christian music)!

I'm talking about rappers in general who produce bullshit music talking about "how rich they are" and how many "hoes" they have...over and over again. I think most of the shit on the radio is fucking inappropriate for the radio at 3 in the afternoon when kids can listen to that bullshit. I applaud Master P (Even though it's suspect) that he's making a move to the positive....

Dat's wussup...My misinterpretation Bruh. I just say fucc it....let these young folks make music!!!! I raise my lil boy not the radio. My 4 year old son loves "Crank Dat" and if you listen to the words, the song shouldn't even be played on the radio. But at the end of the day it's music and his freedom of what he chooses to rap about. People always say that white people are the reason that hip hop is still in business but when you hear Power 106 in L.A. and Hot 97 in NY, it's Blaccs and Latinos callin in and requestin this so called bullshit to be played repeatedly.
 
Young cats will never understand this. Hell if you told me NWA was on some bullshit when they first came out "I myself" would have cussed you out. So it's hard to tell youngsters that the music they listen to is straight trash.

Well, maybe thats cause NWA wasn't trash. Now givin, some of there songs where over the top, but it was better music. And "Express Yourself" was had a message, and we can all agree with Cube on "I aint the one"
 
FUCK DAVID BANNER!! That Nigga is obviously mad
cause P ain't sign him back in the day and saw this as
an opportunity to go at P. Dumb ass move...... this nigga still has a hood mentality despite his success as a recording artist:smh:....Niggas claim they so real and aint scary but AFRAID to expand and broden there horzions at the sake of not kepping it real or worrying about what the hood will think?..but his punk ass wanna knock P for doing what he do:hmm: Like I said he's bitter cause he was not part of the no limit tank.
 
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