this what bugging me out. its not like he wasn't other films. oprah backed the the great debaters and had a whole episode of the orpah winfrey show to promote it. not one word of the rape charges. and this is almost 10 years ago. and the victim was still alive.
Damn, the girl that accused Nate Parker of rape is dead (Committed Suicide)
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Well, simply put, in terms of profile he wasn't then who he is now. In all of those other films, no matter the quality or status of them, to the public at large (and specifically to Hollywood, the industry) he was 'just' another young black actor. A few good roles here and there and as far as the industry is concerned "hey cool, good luck to the guy".
Fast forward to 2016 now and here is a young Black man that managed to raise $10,000,000 independently to shoot a film that he wrote, stars in the lead role and also directs.
Hollywood: "hmmm" *begins to pique interest*
Said film gets rave reviews at it's premiere at the Sundance film festival.
Hollywood "What do we have here then? There could be something to work with..."
Now add to that how Hollywood was stung bad by the negative PR of the all-white Oscars just gone. That makes this high profile and critically well received film with a Black cast, Black director and story about slavery pretty much a guaranteed shoe-in come Oscars and Awards season this year. Even if the film was terrible it would get awards recognition merely as a "ok we fucked up last year, here take a couple of awards this year to make up for it".
Let's also sprinkle into this mix the huge media stories of innocent black men being killed by predominately White cops. Oh and also the high profile movements of groups such as Black Lives Matter. With all this, the industry KNOWS this film is gonna both do numbers at the box office AND be guaranteed awards recognition. Win-Win.No studio would turn that down.
So, said film drives a bidding war.. Fox offers $17,500,000 for it.. Netflix even offers $20,000,000 for it.
Hollywood: "Whoa whoa whoa this 'new guy on the block' could be something after all. We wanna be in the business of Nate Parker.".
It's the HIGHEST AMOUNT EVER PAID FOR A FILM by a studio. And it's by a Black man. And about slavery.
All of the talking points above have created the perfect storm for it to be 'All Eyes On Nate'. Hell, just ONE of those many points above is enough to get the industry talking, let alone ALL of them. Hence, the understandable and genuine increased media scrutiny.
HOWEVER, thats not to say that due to all of those factors above somebody didn't have a grievance and wanted to bring him back down to the ground. A quick call or anonymous email to the industry press "Hey, you know your new hero? Well..." And down comes the house of cards.
So who's to say if it was just the genuine increased media scrutiny that brought it to the fore or some other more nefarious reason. Bottom line, either way it's a fucked up situation for both him and the movie right now.
Amidst all the drama I found this line from his Variety interview pretty ironic LOL
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/nate-parker-interview-rape-trial-birth-of-a-nation-1201841223/
Did you get advice from other directors too?
I reached out to Edward Zwick. We went through, frame by frame, “Defiance” and “Glory” — the battle scenes. He was like, “This is what I did, and what I would have done differently.” It was an education few people get. I also reached out to Mel Gibson. Maybe three months later, I get a phone call — “Nate, it’s Mel.” “Mel who?” I took maybe 30 pages of notes. His best advice was don’t work on Sunday. He said: “You need a day off you’re going to direct yourself. I did this for seven months on ‘Braveheart.’ You need time for recovery and reflection — just sitting, drinking tea.” That’s exactly what I did. On Sunday, I would go into a dark room and drink tea.
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/nate-parker-interview-rape-trial-birth-of-a-nation-1201841223/
Did you get advice from other directors too?
I reached out to Edward Zwick. We went through, frame by frame, “Defiance” and “Glory” — the battle scenes. He was like, “This is what I did, and what I would have done differently.” It was an education few people get. I also reached out to Mel Gibson. Maybe three months later, I get a phone call — “Nate, it’s Mel.” “Mel who?” I took maybe 30 pages of notes. His best advice was don’t work on Sunday. He said: “You need a day off you’re going to direct yourself. I did this for seven months on ‘Braveheart.’ You need time for recovery and reflection — just sitting, drinking tea.” That’s exactly what I did. On Sunday, I would go into a dark room and drink tea.
On my FB feed, I have a gang of women angry as hell about this discovery and it's beginning to get downright devisive and ugly. They are posting angry rants as though all black men are defending Nate Parker and that to go see his film, because Parker is black and writing on a black figure, would be standing behind fake solidarity.
All the steam generated from the trailer about this story has been deflated and now they've pretty much written dude off. I recognize that a lot of the women posting about it have been victims of rape and molestation too, so I understand where that pain comes from.
Sad how many women take the side of their oppressor on a 20 year allegation where the accused was acquitted. ... So much to the point where they cant even separate the person from the importance of his work which benefits the greater societal good while educating the masses.
The other side of this is that i cant believe that he never had a contingency in place in the event that this was ever brought up. I cant fathom a scenario in which i would create art of this kind and not consider all he possible ways the hidden and visible hands would try to discredit my work or character. Was he this naive?
I hide certain facts about myself on fucking BGOL as a cya contingency.. let alone real life...
No way he didnt consider all this...
They let him get comfortable lol
He fell victim to it too
He thought he was in
he thought it was all good
like i said when george lucas was like be in red tails
when ms pryce was like come on in to beyond the lights
when he got the financing to do this movie
when he had a pretty good career and was on that under the radar list every male black actor is basically on
he thought
ok shit im in no worries
and then OOPS POW SURPRISE
nah
nate
you a nigga fam
lol
that's why he's in a low place
cause the nigga thought it was all good in the hood
he thought he had the pass that woody allen has etc
so i can fully believe there was no plan
once he was getting roles
once the studio bought it all that shit
like let's be honest
he's so drunk off they wine he probably forgot about the shit himself
But he can't have it all ways.
I can separate the art and the symbolism from the person which is why I'm going to see the movie
but he was already on thin ice for have a cac wife.
1st.
and then this?
Black women are not going to just fuck with you with 2 of these things dude. We all know this.
Now is the time for his cac wife to earn her keep
she should be FRONT AND CENTER defending her husband
He shouldn't be out there
his white wife should be out there
"The nate that is being portrayed in the media the vicious innuendo's dealing with my husband whom i love dearly couldn't be further than the truth. I stand with my husband he is not a monster he is a strong stand up man who supports me and my children"
yadda yadda yaddaa
The woman I marry would have vaselineon her face , no earrings, hair in a pony tail, sweats and reebok classics fighting these cacs defending my honor cause she knows id do the same for her.
I sincerely don't think she is capable of offering that kind of support as a white woman publically defending a black man...I don't think she knows how...fuck around and she might even leave him if shit gets too thick
And that speaks VOLUMES
because if it is about "LOVE" like they say and it's not about color and we make too much of a big deal out of it like they say...all these couples say... then THAT, what you just said wouldn't even be a thought or potential issue
Remove race and it sounds silly saying "I don't think she's capable of offering support defending her husband in public"
feel me?
yep...main reason why I just can't see myself marrying a white woman...being frustrated w/ white folks is part of my daily routine...bitch can't offer me no support
yep...main reason why I just can't see myself marrying a white woman...being frustrated w/ white folks is part of my daily routine...bitch can't offer me no support
And the thing nobody talks about is, you're going to have to tuck it inside of you.
Cindy might be cool with it when you date
she's down for the cause when you're freshly in love
she's riding with you and lends an understanding to her boo when you get serious
she's fine with it when you're engaged
she tolerates it when you get married
and then 1 day...because contrary to belief it NEVER stops..as long as you're black and you're alive and you are yourself white people will frustrate you.. you're going to come home and she's going to say "I don't see the big deal" or "Can we just move past this?" or "You always make something out of nothing"
And in that moment you'll realize
I bet money his wife didn't know
Bet good money.
"Who are you right now? Is this serious Nathaniel? Like I can't"
"Babe it's me. It's Nate. I'm still the same guy"
Thats interesting to consider... for several reasons.
He says he never ran from it but I seriously doubt he said I was accused of raping someone and I was acquitted and my best friend that I bring around you all the time was actually put in jail behind the shit but then he got out.
People tend to just be like if the shit is in the past it's the past I'm a different person now, no need to bring that shit up and fuck up this current shit.
Meanwhile Woody Allen is a child molester and yet nobody bats an eye when he makes any noteworthy film...
Yeah. He had to figure this shit would come back up.
I didn't think about that.. and surely she didn't know. Who brings something like that up like "oh btw.. I was acquitted of rape when I was in college"... nope...
Don't even worry about Woody though or Nate. We need to have tunnel vision.
White people are never going to be like we were wrong. They're never going to admit to a standard. They don't think racism actually exists while they intentionally practice and Benefit from it
So I feel you
Say that shit around white people to make them mad don't get frustrated with Woody
Because Allen and Farrow had never married, Allen was not Soon-Yi's legal stepfather. After his relationship with Mia Farrow ended acrimoniously in 1992, Allen and Soon-Yi continued their relationship and she moved in with Allen
What I don't get is that the (almost) all white jury heard all the testimony, saw evidence and everything else people are now throwing out against Nate but yet they still found him innocent....
But that's not enough for (black) people? Cause I don't really see white folks up in arms about his past.
But that's not enough for (black) people? Cause I don't really see white folks up in arms about his past.
We don't forgive our own like we forgive everyone else
If a nigga had shot that church up we'd talk about everything wrong with every black person in the country
Forgave that cac that they stopped and gave burger king to cause he was so hungry and had been thru so much
Church forgave him too
Christians didn't fill up that gofundme money either
"....Yea and the girl looked... JUST LIKE YOU baby!!!"
lmbaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
It's the same reason,why a person like Stephen A will shit on Martavis Bryant,but defend Ryan Lochte. Many of our people are scare to challenge white supremacy,so they rather live in a bubble and act like it don't exist.
We're the only group of people that forgive their oppressors,but yell and scream,when shit happens to us.
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