Da Bulls will get to the Eastern conference finals and maybe...

wade is jordan
agruably the best scorer in the league
his 3 shot getting better every year.
nearly unguardable

mike miller=kerr
dude shot almost 50% from 3 last year.
better all around player than kerr

haslem=rodman
obviously not as good,but that type of hustle guy.
he can knock down the jumper from the top of the key
nails his free throws in crunch time.
was 2nd on the heat behind wade in game winners last year

Wade is Jordan? You gotta be fucking kidding me!
haslem as Rodman?

They are not even on the same planet! You trippin!

Who's Kukoc? Who's Harper?
 
I think people get sensitive when you disagree with something. I never said Wade wasnt great. I said there are better scorers than him and they ALL had to share the ball with other good players... Wade, like Bron had no help so they got to take more shots=more points. As good as a J as you and the dude above you wanna say Wade has is aint as good as Kobes, Melos, or Durants. Theyre also taller, can shot over people and skills that will benefit them when they lose athleticism... Wade???... Not really. So to me there are atleast 3 better scorers than Wade. I like Wade, Im not bashin him, but based on what I see, hes a top 5 player... Not the best player.

why are we talking about wade losing athleticism:lol:
right now dude is arguably the best scorer in the league.
hes nearly unguardable right now.
 
I know you are a fellow Bulls fan but Wade forgot more about basketball than Durant or Melo will pick up in the next 5 years. I can't co sign this statement Wade is in the top 3 with LBJ & Kobe.

What??? Wade is a slasher with a "decent" jumper... Hes undersized for the 2, but hes fast as fuck. What skills does Wade have that Melo and Durant dont. Melos moves and counter moves alone are among the best Ive seen since... Well you know who. Not say Melo is in his ballpark, but when Melo gets the ball anywhere on the floor he can score with 1 dribble... Cant say Wade could do the same, at the same clip as Melo. Durant is 6'10'' handles like a 2, can shoot the 3 better than Wade, and is more of a matchup problem than Wade... Love Wade, hes from the Chi, but lets not get carried away with the praise here.
 
Money??? Really???:hmm: 26.8 isnt almost 30. 29.8 is almost 30. Wade will cath fire at time, but his shit aint money. Reggie was money, Bird was money, Glen Rice was money, Wade is ok...
he averaged 30 the year before and won the scoring title:)
Wade is Jordan? You gotta be fucking kidding me!
haslem as Rodman?

They are not even on the same planet! You trippin!

Who's Kukoc? Who's Harper?
jesus christ read man
wade is the jordan of the team
haslem is the rodman of the team
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Chasing somebody around all night will tire you so Wade will be wasting energy. Bosh is going to get his buy you can expect him to possibly get into foul trouble.Noah and Haslem may fight similar styles but Haslem has never averaged a double double, Noah has.And Big Z has to make it through the year on those bad feet.

Wtf? Haslem averaged 10 pts/10 rebounds last season coming from the bench.. :hmm:
 
I know you are a fellow Bulls fan but Wade forgot more about basketball than Durant or Melo will pick up in the next 5 years. I can't co sign this statement Wade is in the top 3 with LBJ & Kobe.

Wade is from the Chi and I love this guys game but I'd take melo and durants scoring :ability" over his right now. Wade has more moxie than the two of them. Let's not forget, Wade has work ethic issues (he cam into camp overweight last year) and durability issues.

He like Lebron and adrenaline jump shooters, meaning that they dont have pure jumpers but when they get crunk, they can hit it all night.
 
Wade is from the Chi and I love this guys game but I'd take melo and durants scoring :ability" over his right now. Wade has more moxie than the two of them. Let's not forget, Wade has work ethic issues (he cam into camp overweight last year) and durability issues.

He like Lebron and adrenaline jump shooters, meaning that they dont have pure jumpers but when they get crunk, they can hit it all night.

All Im tryin to say... You summed it up.
 
Wtf? Haslem averaged 10 pts/10 rebounds last season coming from the bench.. :hmm:

He did not and never has!

2003-04 7.3 and 6.3
2004-05 10.9 and 9.1
2005-06 9.4 and 7.8
2006-07 10.7 and 8.3
2007-08 12.0 and 9.0
2008-09 10.6 and 8.2
2009-10 9.9 and 8.1
 
Brown, I didnt watch the whole 8 minute clip, but in the first 2 or so all I saw were dunks and explosive plays... To have a money J, you have to actually shoot... And do it at a CONSISTANT basis. Him gettin hot in some games doesnt make him a great shooter.
 
Well... Not many people did before July 8th, so let be fair to people...:lol:

wade:mother fucker got me again.
lebron: sho did
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melo durant or kobe have never carried their team like wade did in the 06 finals.
melo hasnt won a scoring title either.
and wade shoots at a much better %

Ive stated this already Melo, Durant and Kobe have better teamates, which is why Wade scores more because he doesnt have help, same with Bron. Wade shoots a "much" better %??? Really??? Whats you defenition of "much" better??? Wade get more easy buckets do to his playing style, but to see how good of a shooter he is, look no further than FT%... That 06 team had Shaq in his last good year, he didnt exactly carry them.
 
When will Noah ever have to D up SFs, he plays center...

That part of my answer was based on how the OP listed the names out. I assumed that was his idea the starting line-up and that's what I responded to.

The fact that they only have Rose to create for the whole team does worry me. But youre sayin they cant win more than 20 games with a better roster than one that won half its games last year???
:confused: You add more scoring, better shooting another double digit rebound guy and thats a worse team???

I didn't say they would be a worse team, I said I don't see how that line-up translates into 20 more wins. You think Booz, Korver, and Reddick individually bring 5+ wins each? On paper they are better than they were a year ago, but I don't see 20+ wins better.

Who in the East sports a frontline that can stack up with Noah, Booz, and Gibson???

That depends on where they play Gibson, unless you see them running with 2PFs & a C. What combo are you gonna play them in where they aren't gonna be at the disadvantage?


At PG who in the East is better???... Please dont say Rondo... With good outside shooting you cant pack everybody in the lane to stop Rose from driving and Booz from gettin easy baskets.

It's not about who is better individually, it's about how you play them defensively. You don't have to "stop" Rose, you just stop the players around him and since Rose is the only one right now that can create his own shot......trouble.



If the Bulls stay healthy they can be in the Eastern Finals atleast. To be honest I dont think Boston has another run in them, The Heat dont have a full roster yet, ATL doesnt have aproven PG, so why cant the Bulls get there???

I just don't see ECF this year from this team. If they prove me wrong cool, but looking at this roster I don't see it.
 
Wade is from the Chi and I love this guys game but I'd take melo and durants scoring :ability" over his right now. Wade has more moxie than the two of them. Let's not forget, Wade has work ethic issues (he cam into camp overweight last year) and durability issues.

He like Lebron and adrenaline jump shooters, meaning that they dont have pure jumpers but when they get crunk, they can hit it all night.
Wade shots around 48% from the floor. What do you think he does all game...dunk and make layups? If Wade does not have a jump shot then why their are no team in the NBA willing to sag their defense and force him to shoot like they do Rondo?
 
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Ive stated this already Melo, Durant and Kobe have better teamates, which is why Wade scores more because he doesnt have help, same with Bron. Wade shoots a "much" better %??? Really??? Whats you defenition of "much" better??? Wade get more easy buckets do to his playing style, but to see how good of a shooter he is, look no further than FT%... That 06 team had Shaq in his last good year, he didnt exactly carry them.

wade carried that team man.
u better watch the dvd
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are we arguing whos a better jump shooter now:confused:
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Money??? Really???:hmm: 26.8 isnt almost 30. 29.8 is almost 30. Wade will cath fire at time, but his shit aint money. Reggie was money, Bird was money, Glen Rice was money, Wade is ok...

But comparing them to Wade ain't fair none of them had to create their own shots. They were more of catch and shoot...Wade has to create space then take his shot it's a whole lot easier in Miller,Bird, & Rice situation.
 
wade carried that team man.
u better watch the dvd
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
are we arguing whos a better jump shooter now:confused:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Sorry I must be gettin my people mixed up, someone said Wade had a "money" jumper. He carried them in the finals if I can remember but that was actually Wades best team, other than the year before when they had Wade, Odom, and Butler. That finals team had huys who knew their roles and Shaq was still good for 20 PPG back then. Two 20 point scorers can get it done.
 
Sorry I must be gettin my people mixed up, someone said Wade had a "money" jumper. He carried them in the finals if I can remember but that was actually Wades best team, other than the year before when they had Wade, Odom, and Butler. That finals team had huys who knew their roles and Shaq was still good for 20 PPG back then. Two 20 point scorers can get it done.


shaq scoring went down in the playoffs and he didnt play very good.
wades scoring went up.
shaq was there the year before too.
 
But comparing them to Wade ain't fair none of them had to create their own shots. They were more of catch and shoot...Wade has to create space then take his shot it's a whole lot easier in Miller,Bird, & Rice situation.

You do have a point, but if he could shoot, youd see more Wade offball plays to save him down the stretch. Wade isnt the point, he just dominates the ball. Him being a catch and shoot guy is more efficient, if he could do it.
 
You do have a point, but if he could shoot, youd see more Wade offball plays to save him down the stretch. Wade isnt the point, he just dominates the ball. Him being a catch and shoot guy is more efficient, if he could do it.
Guys coming off screens are normally players that are not very athletic. They normally can not create space or shots for themselves so they rely on screens to get open. Wade does not need an off the ball screen to create a shot for himself. Which makes him a lot harder to defend. If Wade had an iffy jump shot you would see NBA teams sagging their defense daring him to shot. There is a reason no team has used that strategy...and that is because he shots the ball at around 48% and has a money jumper..
 
These loaded team dont work! the Lakers had 4 All-Stars in 98 and didnt do shit (Shaq, Campbell, Van Exel and Kobe). They didnt make the finals that year.
 
Guys coming off screens are normally players that are not very athletic. They normally can not create space or shots for themselves so they rely on screens to get open. Wade does not need an off the ball screen to create a shot for himself. Which makes him a lot harder to defend. If Wade had an iffy jump shot you would see NBA teams sagging their defense daring him to shot. There is a reason no team has used that strategy...and that is because he shots the ball at around 48% and has a money jumper..

Ill agree with most of this... the 48% is not him shoting jumpers. Js are included, but Wade get alot of easy layups and dunks too. Wade is not a money jumpshooter. His shooting percentage does not indicate him being a good shooter. He shoots 78& from the FT line... "Money" shooters shoot high 80s and low 90s...
 
I don't see it happening without someone making a major change to their game. I am gonna hit you with just the numbers to try to make this argument logical. Hopefully this will allow us to level-set.

We can agree that Bosh, James and Wade are bulk shooters. They averaged 16.9, 25.2 and 22.8 shots per game in 09-10 respectively! In the 09-10, NBA teams averages 77 shots per game. At their current rate they would take about 65 shots per game.

I don't care what role players they bring in, the other 5 players in an 8 man rotation cannot be effective taking only 12 shots. that is the equivalent of "hussle play" shot and tip-ins. At their current rate no-one but the big three would be able to take a shot with-in the offense.

Now that we have established that they are going to have to share the ball with themselves and whatever other cast members, lets project that they will all have to take less shots. In order for them to mesh offensively, they are all going to have to take 20% less shots than they normally would (this is a conservative estimate, my gut tells me 25%).

If we cut their shots and free throws by 20% (less shots = less free throws) they will put up, based off of 09-10 shooting and free-throw percentages, 19.4 points on 13.5 shots (Bosh), 26.5 points on 20.16 shots (James) and 22.8 points on 18.24 shots (Wade). That leaves amounts to 68.7 points on 52 shots per game.

Two things must happen: the big three are going to have to rely on a subpar supporting cast to take 25 shots or one of them (maybe two) will have to take a disproportionate amount of shots. Even if they had a sufficient staff to take 25 shots, it's still not enough to establish a rhythm at 6 per quarter. This will lead to them being exposed for not having a well rounded team or discontent in the locker room by one or maybe two of the big three and possibly the rest of the rotation.

That's not even that bad part, I am really about to piss off the Heat fans. The Big Three does not have a reputation for being healthy. Bosh has NEVER played all 82 games and only twice has he played more that 70. He, on average, misses 10 games per year.

Wade has NEVER played all 82 games and only three times has he played more than 70 games. He, on average, misses 15 games per year.

James has NEVER played all 82 games and on average, he misses 4 games per year.

On average, the Big Three will miss 29 games next year! They better hope none are injured at the same time.

In summation, this team does not have the make-up from a personnel standpoint, be it the Big Three or the supporting cast (whomever they might be), to run a balanced offense nor survive injury.

It's just not happening unless someone drastically alters their current game.
 
Damn - Yall mean to tell me that there ain't enough Lebron/Wade/Heat threads for muthafuckas to suck off "The Big Three" without jackin a thread for my Bulls?

:lol:

Go Bulls!!
 
I know you are a fellow Bulls fan but Wade forgot more about basketball than Durant or Melo will pick up in the next 5 years. I can't co sign this statement Wade is in the top 3 with LBJ & Kobe.

wade is 7 yrs older than durant and scotty brooks played for a hell of a coach in rudy t. n melo is jus lazy but he lead his syracuse team under a pretty good coach in jim b. i can't cosign that wade statement but i will say wade has a killer instinct that he showed in the finals and for that he is a champ and has my respect
 
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