Cowboys safety Roy Williams suspended for 1 game for tackle on McNabb

I can't stand Roy Williams... he is a dirty mothaphucka!

He seems to actually takes the angle to go for that dirty ass tackle. Every time I see Dallas play, he does the same dirty shit! And for some reason, he doesn't always get flagged for it.

Fuck that guy!

He is going to ruin someone's career. I'm glad he got suspended!
 
Are you serious?

He is one of the hardest hitting players do you think that he wouldn't have preferred to line a QB up?

Get real he would have destroyed a running back head up let alone a qb.

1) Why is he still doing it?

2) Why are people making excuses for him?
 
Texas toast got what he deserved ...fuck him


Big Mike Sellers got somethin' for his ass when he comes back :yes:
 
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you clown ass dude put up that one weak tackle of roy
contrary to what you belive roy is one of the nfl best hitters
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I don't understand why it's illegal to horse collar tackle, but it's ALL good to pull a player down by his HAIR. Now that's some dirty shit. I remember last season when Troy Polamalu was returning an interception and LITERALLY got dragged down by his damn hair. Fuck the PUSSY ass NFL. And HELL yes, Roy Williams is a big hitter, similar to Shaun Taylor.
 
I don't understand why it's illegal to horse collar tackle, but it's ALL good to pull a player down by his HAIR. Now that's some dirty shit. I remember last season when Troy Polamalu was returning an interception and LITERALLY got dragged down by his damn hair. Fuck the PUSSY ass NFL. And HELL yes, Roy Williams is a big hitter, similar to Shaun Taylor.

Hair is part of the body Mo-Ron.


Grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down a runner brings a 15-yard personal foul.
 
Hair is part of the body Mo-Ron.


Grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down a runner brings a 15-yard personal foul.
Yeah. hair is part of the body DICK-HEAD, but that's like saying it's cool to grab somebody by they dick and pull them down. Yes there are players in the league dirty enough to do some shit like that, but it's illegal. I played football with long hair and I can tell you right now, that it hurts worse to be pulled down by your hair, than the inside collar of your pads. GTFOH bitch.
 
Yeah. hair is part of the body DICK-HEAD, but that's like saying it's cool to grab somebody by they dick and pull them down. Yes there are players in the league dirty enough to do some shit like that, but it's illegal. I played football with long hair and I can tell you right now, that it hurts worse to be pulled down by your hair, than the inside collar of your pads. GTFOH bitch.

So how is that illegal you long haired faggot simp if its was too tough for you should have joined the debate team PUSSY.
 
That's a fucked up tackle that's going to end someone's career. His dumb ass got suspended because he keeps violating the same rule (the one they instituted because of him). Hell, if he wasn't so damn slow or didn't consistently take the wrong angle he'd be in position to make the tackle without using the illegal move.
 
I'm not rationalizing here, but it's amazing how the same people in here, who are getting on Roy Williams for "not being able to break his habit," or horsecollaring, and claiming he's a weak safety because of it, are the same people who claim Michael Vick is an all allstar QB because he can run outta the pocket.

Vick runs outta instinct.

Williams tackles outta instinct.

What's the difference? Why you knockin one of over the other?

Cause one plays offense and the other plays defense? In a league where every defensive play is geared towards the offense?

Williams plays a position that engages contact on almost every play. It's gonna happen.

If this is the case, we might as well watch tag football. Blows to the head are illegal but you still see it. Chop blocking is illegal but you still it. Blocks in the back, which is probably as unfair as you can get, is illegal but we still see it. These are all career enders, maybe more so than a horsecollar. How come we didn't get on the dude that knocked out Kevin Everett? Or the nigga that nearly took off Curtis's head off in that Philly/Dallas game??

Fine and suspend dude if you must, but to call him a weak, and a dirty player because he hasn't learned to break from his instinct?

This board is full of hypocrisy, daily.
 
Roy Williams does this for 2 reasons .... bad angles ... pedestrain speed for a DB . He is a linebacker playin' safety . U see it everytime he's in coverage . McNabb probably would have got another 5 yards if he didn't !!!!! :cool:
 
I have a question...what if during the horse collor mcnabb had fumbled the ball? If the cowboys recovered, would the fumble count and then the cowboys are pushed back 15 yards? Or at the spot of the fumble the play become dead and the eagles get 15 yards from the spot of the fumble?:confused:

it be Eagles ball. but i dont remember the flag being thrown?

roy is a big hiter but he is also probaly the dumbest player in the world. damn they made the rule because of you, but you still continue doing shit. just stupid.
 
Yeah he (Roy W.) need to stop that bullshit and learn how to fuckin tackle. We all know that mofo can not cover NO BODY. He gets burnt all the fuckin time. That is why he started that bullshit tackle because he is always behind the person he is trying to catch.

Fuck him and Fuck T.O.
 
Man thats football. You sometimes try and knock the fuck out of people. Thats the way the game is played. :hmm:
Fuck Blunt and please don't quote him.

Yeah, I said somebody needs to "hi-lo" Brady AND "accidentally" truck Billicheat's ass on a sweep to the sideline and that obviously pissed him off as he's the typical whiteboy boy with "Andrea Kramer eyes" for Tom Brady.

I've softened my position a bit since they've backed off that "running up the score" bullshit but either situation would still bring a smile to my face.

Put Blunt on ignore.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)
 
I'm not rationalizing here, but....
Look, that tackle is not life-threatening but it has been proven to be EXTREMELY likely to cause major injury to a player's legs. And the fact that Williams is the VERY individual that brought attention to it via an injury to a player, is the reason HE got a harsh punishment.

He's BEEN told to cut that shit out and yet he STILL does it. And this wasn't the first time I've seen him do it this year. It was just the first time the refs flagged him for it.

Everyone is focusing on the grabbing around the collar but THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM.

The defender usually stops the opponent's forward momentum with the grab from behind but then HIS momentum carries his full weight into the legs of the opponent who is usually being twisted to one side or another.

The McNabb tackle wasn't as bad as it could've been because Williams' weight didn't roll into McNabb's feet, ankles, lower leg or kness like that particular tackle dangerously does. But that doesn't mean Williams should've gotten a pass.

If he does it again, the league needs to hit him even harder with fines and suspensions. It's ridiculous he's still doing it. :angry:

And though you disagree, it IS a weak-assed way of playing football.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)
 
I'm not rationalizing here, but it's amazing how the same people in here, who are getting on Roy Williams for "not being able to break his habit," or horsecollaring, and claiming he's a weak safety because of it, are the same people who claim Michael Vick is an all allstar QB because he can run outta the pocket.

Vick runs outta instinct.

Williams tackles outta instinct.

What's the difference? Why you knockin one of over the other?

Cause one plays offense and the other plays defense? In a league where every defensive play is geared towards the offense?

Williams plays a position that engages contact on almost every play. It's gonna happen.

If this is the case, we might as well watch tag football. Blows to the head are illegal but you still see it. Chop blocking is illegal but you still it. Blocks in the back, which is probably as unfair as you can get, is illegal but we still see it. These are all career enders, maybe more so than a horsecollar. How come we didn't get on the dude that knocked out Kevin Everett? Or the nigga that nearly took off Curtis's head off in that Philly/Dallas game??

Fine and suspend dude if you must, but to call him a weak, and a dirty player because he hasn't learned to break from his instinct?

This board is full of hypocrisy, daily.



So its just gonna happen because he plays defense right?

Name me a single other player in the NFL who does it as consistently as he does it, and has drawn not only fines but now a suspension as well because of that same tackle. I mean, if its just a case of being on d, then its a call we should see somewhat regularly no? Kind of like a facemask or interference.

Name me a single other player and you have a point.

Until then you are left trying to explain why everybody else on the field who plays defense seem to be intelligent enough to know the rules of the game, while he doesnt. Or better yet, how come everyone else watching the games realize that he does it on purpose, and you seem to be slow in coming to the same conclusion. Listen, he does this on the regular, get it now?

PS, I have played football, up to college, and no, horse collar tackles dont just happen on a regular basis just because you happen to be on defense. When you tackle or hit someone you generally know exactly what you are doing.
 
I think the horse collar rule is a bullshit rule. I'm sick of the NFL making all these damn exceptions to the way you can tackle, who you can tackle, when you can tackle and how hard you can tackle someone..Jesus Christ IT'S FOOTBALL!!!! Everyone in the league knows that Roy Williams is one of the best safties in the game but his main glaring vulnerability is his speed. He does and will get burned if the offensive player gets past him. So what is he supposed to do, or any other defensive player for that matter, if he's the only player between the offensive player and the goal line and the player gets past him, and he is only are only within grasping distance, should he just let the muthafucka score...HELL NO!!! Grab that bitch and bring him to the ground. The shit is not intentional...he is not wringing the player unnecessarily or doing anything extra during the tackle, he is just trying to bring the player down. Injuries are part of the game and so is tackling, grabbing, snatching, and fuckin knocking muthafuckas senseless. It's what the game is about....:angry::angry:
 
Man thats football. You sometimes try and knock the fuck out of people. Thats the way the game is played.

You knock people out "legally," not with dumb plays that will get you suspended and cost you a load of money. If someone is DUMB enough to risk his own career and a year's (or more) pay in order to purposely inflict serious injury with a cheapshot on a white QB that they're jealous of (or feel incapable of competing with), then good luck to them (and their mortgage and child-support payments).

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AllState17 said:
So its just gonna happen because he plays defense right?

Name me a single other player in the NFL who does it as consistently as he does it, and has drawn not only fines but now a suspension as well because of that same tackle. I mean, if its just a case of being on d, then its a call we should see somewhat regularly no? Kind of like a facemask or interference.

Name me a single other player and you have a point.

There is no other player in the league that gets this call more often than Roy Williams. He is the reason they initiated this very rule correct?

DJCANDLE said:
"Williams plays a position that engages contact on almost every play. It's gonna happen."

Do you ever see Tiki Barber horsecollaring DE's?

How about Tom Brady chopping down DB's?

Or Carson Palmer blocking in the back?

No. You don't. And you know why you don't? Because they play positions that don't engage these rules.

If I we're to say that "Palmer plays a position that where throwing an interception is possible on every down. It's gonna happen."

By your current logic, you're sitting there telling me that "it's not an offensive thing, show me a player who does the same thing??"

Son, where did I ever state it was an offensive thing? Where? Let's get our weight up in the comprehension department a lil bit.

When you make a tackle, you go with your instinct. Which is what he does. And which my previous point. Not once did I argue that he shouldn't have been fined or suspended, nor did I state that playing on defense is the sole reason of seeing this call. No where.

If you interpreted it that way, that's a you problem. But it's written there as clear as day.

Again, playing to your vanity, there is no player in the league who gets called for this more than Roy Williams.

Now, tell me that you've never seen anyone in the league from a defensive standpoint ever pull this move, not even once, I will concede my point entirely. Just once, tell me that Roy Williams is the only player that has ever done this move, regardless of repeated offenses, just tell me one time.

Now i'm going to ask you what the hell anything you said, had to do with what I previously posted?

"Fine and suspend dude if you must, but to call him a weak, and a dirty player because he hasn't learned to break from his instinct?"

AllState17 said:
Until then you are left trying to explain why everybody else on the field who plays defense seem to be intelligent enough to know the rules of the game, while he doesnt. Or better yet, how come everyone else watching the games realize that he does it on purpose, and you seem to be slow in coming to the same conclusion. Listen, he does this on the regular, get it now?

You know, the beauty of the world, is that some people comprehend things faster than others. With that said, I ask you this...

Where in my rant did I ever argue this point? Ever. Show me.

"Fine and suspend dude if you must, but to call him a weak, and a dirty player because he hasn't learned to break from his instinct?"

Compelling. :cool:
 
Yeah. hair is part of the body DICK-HEAD, but that's like saying it's cool to grab somebody by they dick and pull them down. Yes there are players in the league dirty enough to do some shit like that, but it's illegal. I played football with long hair and I can tell you right now, that it hurts worse to be pulled down by your hair, than the inside collar of your pads. GTFOH bitch.

It's legal to pull them by the hair because you have the option to tuck that shit away. It's not really fair to force a guy to miss a tackle because some dude decides to let his hair hang out. That would just amount to people abusing a rule.
 
yall forgetting the hit the eagles put in Irving? yeah the one that ended his carrer
the Buddy Ryan era when he would give out bonus checks for nasty hits?
 
Safety Roy Williams did not make the NFC squad, snapping his four-year streak of Pro Bowl selections. Williams also received a one-game NFL suspension for Sunday's illegal "horse-collar" tackle, though Pro Bowl voting had ended last week.
 
Safety Roy Williams did not make the NFC squad, snapping his four-year streak of Pro Bowl selections. Williams also received a one-game NFL suspension for Sunday's illegal "horse-collar" tackle, though Pro Bowl voting had ended last week.

Rightfully so. He didn't deserve it this year, nor last. Neither did Mike Vick. But niggas stay going cause of their names. :smh:
 
Don't watch much sports on tv anymore but cot damn.....this shit is gonna be flag football before it's over.

you chasing a muhfucka and as soon as you get to the point that you can reach out and grab him, you do....but that's illegal...:smh::smh::smh:
 
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