Could Foxnews be feeling heat from Dr. Tiller death?

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Faux News is kicking the shit out of CNN and MSNBC.

These right wing conservatives and NeoCons need a place to vent after Obama won the election and Faux News is their comfort zone.

 
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Faux News is kicking the shit out of CNN and MSNBC.

These right wing conservatives and NeoCons need a place to vent after Obama won the election and Faux News is their comfort zone.

 
Haven't the ratings for FOX and conservative radio increased in the opposition role?

Because the wing nuts have no other outlet. They don't have the majority in anything in Washington DC except the Supreme Court. Notice I said majority. The Democrats, despite their plurality don't CONTROL anything.
 
this dude performed partial birth abortions, and like oreilly showed in that clip above - he was doing them for profit, not because females lives were at risk...

and let's be 100% truthful here; certain folks in the media are using this to attack fox news which is essentially exploiting this dudes death...when its all said and done, he had very strong vocal critics right there in HIS CITY that people are ignoring...
 
Because the wing nuts have no other outlet. They don't have the majority in anything in Washington DC except the Supreme Court. Notice I said majority. The Democrats, despite their plurality don't CONTROL anything.
So where does the rude awakening for FOX come in?
 
So where does the rude awakening for FOX come in?

In about a year and a half. They still have not made the connection between right wing/conservatives defeat in the 2006 trend and the continuing loosing trend in 2008. May be it will sink in 2010. Am I making this clear enough?
 
this dude performed partial birth abortions, and like oreilly showed in that clip above - he was doing them for profit, not because females lives were at risk...

and let's be 100% truthful here; certain folks in the media are using this to attack fox news which is essentially exploiting this dudes death...when its all said and done, he had very strong vocal critics right there in HIS CITY that people are ignoring...

Sez who? Was he doing it only for profit? It does take money to perform any medical service. Was his intentions nefarious, or was he performing a needed service wanted by women. Post your evidence. Is O'Reilly espousing his vitriol for profit?
 
I'd say the reason is the perceived lack of an outlet, as mentioned in your first response. (Correlation, not causation.)

What outlet do they need? What do whites, right wingers/conservatives have to be angry about. Don't they control most everything? Explain.
 
In about a year and a half. They still have not made the connection between right wing/conservatives defeat in the 2006 trend and the continuing loosing trend in 2008. May be it will sink in 2010. Am I making this clear enough?
No. You still have not made the connection between the political fortune of conservatives and Rupert Murdoch's fortune, which is only increased in the role of the opposition. You seem to think they genuinely care about something beyond the primary concern of making money.
What outlet do they need? What do whites, right wingers/conservatives have to be angry about. Don't they control most everything? Explain.
It shouldn't take much to figure out what these people are mad about, whether or not it is a legitimate grievance is another matter and entirely irrelevant... Refer to the word perceived in my previous post. It doesn't matter how you view it or if I argue whether or not it is rational, what is important is that it is the perception and that perception fuels the response.
 
No. You still have not made the connection between the political fortune of conservatives and Rupert Murdoch's fortune, which is only increased in the role of the opposition. You seem to think they genuinely care about something beyond the primary concern of making money.

Let me make it plain to the unsophisticated. Faux snooze will have an audience, whether they are in political position to mean anything will in part be based on how divisive they spin events.

It shouldn't take much to figure out what these people are mad about, whether or not it is a legitimate grievance is another matter and entirely irrelevant... Refer to the word perceived in my previous post. It doesn't matter how you view it or if I argue whether or not it is rational, what is important is that it is the perception and that perception fuels the response.

So using your logic, every young Black male who lives in America has a legitimate gripe to hate whitey, “whether or not it is a legitimate grievance,” as you put it. You still haven’t told me what the right is so upset about that they are killing.
 
this dude performed partial birth abortions, and like oreilly showed in that clip above - he was doing them for profit, not because females lives were at risk...

and let's be 100% truthful here; certain folks in the media are using this to attack fox news which is essentially exploiting this dudes death...when its all said and done, he had very strong vocal critics right there in HIS CITY that people are ignoring...

What do you mean? He was doing it for profit? You mean the doctor should be doing it for free or the doc had billboards and tv ads out advertising his service? I'm trying to understand you and Orilley here.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending this late term shit but the law should have been able to shut this down if what he was doing was against the law.

-VG
 
Let me make it plain to the unsophisticated. Faux snooze will have an audience, whether they are in political position to mean anything will in part be based on how divisive they spin events.



So using your logic, every young Black male who lives in America has a legitimate gripe to hate whitey, “whether or not it is a legitimate grievance,” as you put it. You still haven’t told me what the right is so upset about that they are killing.

You can't make something plain to the unsophisticated and then seem so unaware yourself. You really need me to explain the perceived grievances of some on the right? I could see not agreeing or not thinking there is reason behind the position, but you seriously have no idea at all what some on the right are so upset about???

Regarding the first part of your post, what was FOX in a political position to do in the past that you are predicting they'll no longer influence?

Lastly, I would not say "every young Black male who lives in America has a legitimate gripe to hate whitey, whether or not it is a legitimate grievance," that's contradictory and doesn't make sense, that's like saying my bike is pink whether or not it is pink. :confused:
 
I'd say the reason is the perceived lack of an outlet, as mentioned in your first response. (Correlation, not causation.)

You can't make something plain to the unsophisticated and then seem so unaware yourself. You really need me to explain the perceived grievances of some on the right? I could see not agreeing or not thinking there is reason behind the position, but you seriously have no idea at all what some on the right are so upset about???

Regarding the first part of your post, what was FOX in a political position to do in the past that you are predicting they'll no longer influence?

Lastly, I would not say "every young Black male who lives in America has a legitimate gripe to hate whitey, whether or not it is a legitimate grievance," that's contradictory and doesn't make sense, that's like saying my bike is pink whether or not it is pink. :confused:

You really need me to explain the perceived grievances of some on the right?

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You made the statement, explain!

Answer the question!!!
 
You really need me to explain the perceived grievances of some on the right?

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You made the statement, explain!

Answer the question!!!

:rolleyes:

Well, first thing to understand is that there is nor singular, monolithic entity functioning as "the right." Its a coalition of different groups with different interests, just as is "the left;" a binary, two-party system is not set up to reflect interests in the manner of a parliamentary system.

For example, the white supremacist who targeted FOX News as well as the Washington Post. Terms like "right" and "left" aren't particularly useful in discussing factions such as these. That's why I took care to ask "You really need me to explain the perceived grievances of some on the right" when you wrote "You still haven’t told me what the right is so upset about that they are killing."

Overgeneralizations are a major contributor to ignorance and ignorant statements-- "they" are not all killing.

Moving beyond that, though, there are several grievances we could point to with regard to groups on the right:

1) Heritage-- The thought that the country is changing and the views and makeup of the country are drastically different from 50 years ago. You see this most heavily with the immigration debate now, though its really just a continuation of the perceived oppression of "the Silent Majority."

2) Big government-- Related to the last point, states rights and a hatred of federal hierarchy has always been a refuge of those having their "personal liberty" attacked. Don't want government taking my money to support welfare queens, making me sit next to racial undesirables, etc.

3) Religious fundamentalism-- Religion speaks to core beliefs and encourages a "my way or the highway (to heaven)" approach. Thus the passion over gay rights, abortion, Christmas... these are all entangled, by the way, and the uproar about Christmas is about heritage as well-- "America is a Christian nation."

4) Distrust/disinterest in foreigners/foreign lands-- Again, this is intractable from the first point, immigration has been feared and hated because of the thought that it would change the core of what America is (which it inarguably has). You especially see this today in opposition to Barack Hussein Obama (love the inflection on the middle name), fear of his background and opposition to his embrace of other cultures, his daring to say that America is not a Christian nation.

5) American exceptionalism-- This justifies the contempt some hold for the rest of the world-- we're better than them, anyway. I hesitated to make an individual point of this because its so strongly tied to heritage (there's a lot of interrelation between these basic points) but its such an important theme in American history and it also underscores our dealings with foreigners.

That's five for now, I might add some more later... I'd say this framework explains the most major grievances (though I could be missing something) and religious fundamentalism would actually be the least important of the above (though, again, it can't really be separated)...

Hope this lends some insight...
 
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I see you're active on the forum over the last two days, thoughtone, don't tell me you have nothing to say after you nagged me into that explanation.
 
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I see he has time to bump old posts about steroids in baseball...

I see your statements are eating you up inside. I want those comments to linger for awhile. You know how they sound. These excuses have been used every time whites, in particular, white men’s dominance over the US social structure is nicked away a bit. The turmoil created today was created by greedy white men gaming the system. This time it bit them back. The same basic rants were used at the end of the civil war, during reconstruction, during women’s suffrage, after WWII, during the civil rights 1960s and the 1990s. Same old white supremacist talk!
 
I see your statements are eating you up inside. I want those comments to linger for awhile. You know how they sound. These excuses have been used every time whites, in particular, white men’s dominance over the US social structure is nicked away a bit. The turmoil created today was created by greedy white men gaming the system. This time it bit them back. The same basic rants were used at the end of the civil war, during reconstruction, during women’s suffrage, after WWII, during the civil rights 1960s and the 1990s. Same old white supremacist talk!

I don't identify with ANYTHING that I wrote. That should be clear to anyone of moderate intelligence who read the post.

If you think I'm being eaten up inside because I am able to understand and articulate another point of view, you confirm what I thought of you to begin with and I won't be bothered beyond this.
 
I don't identify with ANYTHING that I wrote. (That should be clear to anyone of moderate intelligence who read the post.) If you think I'm being eaten up inside because I am able to understand and articulate another point of view, you confirm what I thought of you to begin with and I won't be bothered beyond this.

Well you did seem sure in knowing the intensions of the neo Nazis, on top of the obvious venom that they spew about.
 
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a thousand battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.

--Sun Tzu, Art of War
 
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