Cosby At It, Again ...

[QueEx]

<font size="5"><center>Cosby Criticizes Parents, Teachers</font size></center>

Associated Press
Oct 29, 9:12 PM (ET)


LOS ANGELES (AP) - Bill Cosby, who has ignited controversy in the past with his sometimes scathing rebukes, criticized teachers and parents at a weekend education conference, saying they don't do enough to help kids.

Cosby spoke Saturday at a forum called "Education Is a Civil Right." Hundreds of Los Angeles-area parents, teachers and students attended the event at Maranatha Community Church.

Cosby, 69, was critical of black parents, saying they don't involve themselves enough in their children's education and don't know what their children are doing.

"We've got parents who won't check the bedrooms of their children to see if there's a gun," he said.

He chided teachers for not offering clear explanations to children who ask why courses such as English and algebra are necessary.

"If you teach English and you can't answer this child, then you're in trouble, and we've been in trouble," Cosby said. "We can't answer these children, because nobody's given them any goals."

In the past, Cosby has criticized some black children for not knowing how to read or write, said some had squandered opportunities the civil rights movement gave them and said whites are unfairly blamed for problems in the black community such as teen pregnancy and high dropout rates.


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[QueEx]

<font size="5"><center>More straight talk from Cosby</font size>
<font size="4">At a forum on bettering the education of black children,
the comedian has pointed remarks for parents, teachers --
even some churchgoers</font size></center>


Los Angeles Times
By Deborah Schoch, Times Staff Writer
October 29, 2006


Comedian Bill Cosby is not known for being timid when discussing some of the hot-button issues in black America.

He has ignited controversy nationwide in the last two years with scathing critiques that black parents and teachers are failing their children, and with the assertion that black society cannot blame white people for low-scoring urban schools and teenage crime.

But while some black leaders and educators have condemned his criticisms, he was greeted with sustained applause Saturday when he took on the black educational system in front of hundreds of Los Angeles area parents, teachers and students at Maranatha Community Church in the Crenshaw district.

Cosby was the keynote speaker at a forum titled "Education Is a Civil Right," organized by local black educators to help forge an African American education agenda.

No subject was sacred.

Cosby chastised those black parents who he said fail to involve themselves in their children's education, know what subjects they're studying, visit their schools or meet the teachers. Some fail to monitor their children's habits, he said.

"We've got parents who won't check the bedrooms of their children to see if there's a gun," he said.

He chided teachers for not explaining clearly to students who ask, "Why do I need to know this?" that their algebra and English classes can help them obtain higher-paying jobs.

"I'm not asking you to entertain the children," he told listening teachers. "If you teach English, and you can't answer this child … then you're in trouble, and we've been in trouble. We can't answer these children, because nobody's given them any goals."

If students know that they could fix elevators at the local mall and earn $75,000 a year, he said, "and if they like the job of fixing the elevator, you've got to get to them with that algebra."

Even some churchgoers drew a rebuke. Cosby riffed on the common expression "The Lord will find a way," adding, "So I'm just going to wait for Jesus to find a way."

He said: "Too many people are waiting for Jesus to come along and cut your grass. And Jesus isn't going to come along and cut your grass."

Cosby, who has a doctorate in education, sparked an angry national debate with a May 2004 speech at a gala marking the 50th anniversary of the Supreme Court desegregation ruling, Brown vs. Board of Education. He derided black youths for wearing hats backward and "pants down around the crack" and parents for speaking poor English.

Since then, he has raised the same issues at talks around the country, including one a year ago in crime-plagued Compton, where he urged residents to celebrate their city, such as by holding a parade to honor tennis stars Venus and Serena Williams, who come from Compton.

Cosby and other educators took questions from the audience Saturday, including one from Kathy Stewart, 30, of South Los Angeles, who said that her parents put her on the street at age 14 and that she is raising three children alone. She is studying to be a teacher and drug counselor, she said.

When she asked the panel for advice, Cosby asked if the fathers saw the children. She said yes.

"That's the most important thing," he responded. "It's very important that they pitch in…. It's not about you and them. It's about the children."

He praised Stewart for her resilience.

"You're setting an example for those three children," he said.

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[Spectrum]

Cosby has good intentions, but horrible tactics. I dont care what your goal is..you can not expect to achieve it by humiliating the person or group that you are trying to influence. You can still be real and direct, but you have to be a bit more compassionate simultaneously.

 

[Temujin]

Cosby has good intentions, but horrible tactics. I dont care what your goal is..you can not expect to achieve it by humiliating the person or group that you are trying to influence. You can still be real and direct, but you have to be a bit more compassionate simultaneously.

Co-sign. As soon as you put people on the defensive they stop listening to what you have to say and start thinking about why you are wrong.

 

[neo_cacos]

Co-sign. As soon as you put people on the defensive they stop listening to what you have to say and start thinking about why you are wrong.

Seems like all that Cosby does is just re-iterate the symptoms of what we've endured. Obviously no one will argue that Cosby is wrong.
As a matter of fact....HE'S RIGHT.

I could write a book about what are we doing wrong...but it's useless UNLESS I explained the WHY.
and the HOW to reverse the trend.

I have no problem with someone pointig out the symptoms of our problems.
But they should also mention the cause and present us options as to what should be done about it.

neo

 

[QueEx]

Cosby has good intentions, but horrible tactics. I dont care what your goal is..you can not expect to achieve it by humiliating the person or group that you are trying to influence. You can still be real and direct, but you have to be a bit more compassionate simultaneously.

You may be right with respect to Cosby's delivery. Of course, no one delivery/presentation reaches all. I do believe, however, that he is genuine. Maybe he is just trying to "Shock" the community's conscious? I think he should consider varying his approach as the message is an important one and needs the widest appreciation possible in our community.

QueEx

 

[QueEx]

Seems like all that Cosby does is just re-iterate the symptoms of what we've endured. Obviously no one will argue that Cosby is wrong.
As a matter of fact....HE'S RIGHT.

I could write a book about what are we doing wrong...but it's useless UNLESS I explained the WHY.
and the HOW to reverse the trend.

I have no problem with someone pointig out the symptoms of our problems.
But they should also mention the cause and present us options as to what should be done about it.

neo

Hell, we know WHY! One WHY or another is discussed in forums barbershops, on the corner and everywhere in between almost daily. While there are other HOWS, seems to me, Cosby is advancing his: parents do more; teachers do more; and learn to do more for oneself. I don't think he offers his advice as a panacea, but I don't think we need a lot more whys; throwing more bricks at the past doesn't add many to the improvement building.

QueEx

 

[Spectrum]

You may be right with respect to Cosby's delivery. Of course, no one delivery/presentation reaches all. I do believe, however, that he is genuine. Maybe he is just trying to "Shock" the community's conscious? I think he should consider varying his approach as the message is an important one and needs the widest appreciation possible in our community.

QueEx

I agree and at least he is trying. That is more than what most people can say.

 

[Makkonnen]

<font size="5"><center>Cosby Criticizes Parents, Teachers</font size></center>

Associated Press
Oct 29, 9:12 PM (ET)


LOS ANGELES (AP) - Bill Cosby, who has ignited controversy in the past with his sometimes scathing rebukes, criticized teachers and parents at a weekend education conference, saying they don't do enough to help kids.

Cosby spoke Saturday at a forum called "Education Is a Civil Right." Hundreds of Los Angeles-area parents, teachers and students attended the event at Maranatha Community Church.

Cosby, 69, was critical of black parents, saying they don't involve themselves enough in their children's education and don't know what their children are doing.

"We've got parents who won't check the bedrooms of their children to see if there's a gun," he said.

He chided teachers for not offering clear explanations to children who ask why courses such as English and algebra are necessary.

"If you teach English and you can't answer this child, then you're in trouble, and we've been in trouble," Cosby said. "We can't answer these children, because nobody's given them any goals."

In the past, Cosby has criticized some black children for not knowing how to read or write, said some had squandered opportunities the civil rights movement gave them and said whites are unfairly blamed for problems in the black community such as teen pregnancy and high dropout rates.


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Ibeh thinkbeh Cosbehbybeh isbeh rightbeh.

fuckin hypocrit

what fuckin child goes throughout life and schooling of whatever kind in this country and isn't told by someone at some point that you learn reading, writing and mathematics to survive and to go to college? Give me a fucking break.


Education is a civil right? I totally agree, so address the heart of the fuckin matter which is economic disparities between communities and the level of education being provided them. I don't seem to hear any class struggle references but maybe they are being ommitted.

All parents are not responsible and no level of insults or call to arms rhetoric will change that. Children in less affluent communities are damn near abandoned by the education system why doesn't he focus on that? How about fighting for equal access to a quality education Mr. Education is a Civil Right?


He's like Tony Robbins with no fuckin sense. 99% of the people who'd even pay attention to the shit he's talking already have sense enough to not embody the stereotyped behavior he constantly runs down.

He should stick to druggin white/light women.

 

[owl]

I don't think Bill's credibility will allow him to hold his own in any discussion about economic disparities, him being rich, most will ask that he do more financially than what he is already doing.
I support bill... He makes specific enough pointers that anyone could elicit the implied solutions, but I feel that because bill is not in the projects, not in the city schools, not in the unemployment line, his methodology will continually be attacked. The same line of thought was shot his way with the cosby show in the eighties, when ppl complained that it wasn't "real enough," the sympathy of the common ppl in the conditions he describes often create a lack of understanding as to why we do what we do when faced with poverty and a very entrenched system of institutionalized racism.
He wants us to accept the reality of america, when we need someone to force america to accept the reality of us.
I agree about ppl needing to stop waiting on jesus to save them, even about teachers not being able to give motivational answers to children's inquiries regarding why they must study certain subjects, but until Bill walks into a classroom of thirty students cursing like comedians on an hbo special, fighting over who lives where, standing on desk, some hungry, some unbathed, and him being able to control that situation, he needs to be some what humble about why teachers aren't getting the job done. I hate to sound like i am making excuses, but there are reason why things happen, and until we look at the causes we'll never create solutions...He needs to address the mayors and school boards who control decision making as to why in every major city they are closing schools instead of opening more of them, why are teachers receiving less than there jobs entitle...


and he needs to respect black america enough to stop airing dirty laundry to the public like he's attention whoring or something, if you are going to address a ppl as a ppl then at least do it in the proper channel...


YBO

 

[nittie]

The Bible says the Poor will always be among us...Bill must think he's God if he believes his rants can change that.

 

[QueEx]

The Bible says the Poor will always be among us...Bill must think he's God if he believes his rants can change that.

Well, I guess there is jjust no need to even try to help others ...

QueEx

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[nittie]

It won't do any good what we're talking about here is universal laws...Man has figured out a way to change that not yet anyway.

 

[5346huey]

I got allot of love for Bill Cosby man. What he is saying is not popular, and not cool to hear, but it's never cool to hear about your faults. Young Black America is in a state of 911. Our young leaders are being put to rest in numbers never seen before. Our daughters are now mothers being forced to raise a nation. Our Kids are loosing their fathers to prison and the grave. Black people are in trouble. This is what Bill is trying to say in his own way. He's an old man from a different time period where are leaders held no punches and told our people the truth. He's from an error where our leaders were not full of lies and hidden agendas. It's clear we as a people have serious issues to address, but how can we address those issues if we can't even have dialog about what those issues are? This man is a rider, no coward or lies about him. It takes real big balls to speak about things that are not popular, in hopes to reach a few. I hate to see his message be shot down by the very people he is trying to reach out too.

 

[nittie]

The strong will always victimized the weak....the oppressed will always subdue their oppressors.....thats just the way it is. Mr. Cosby is an educated man and hopefully he means well, but he has to know that if he really wanted to make a difference he should channel his energy at specific problems, making generic accusations at Blacks, parents, kids, schools ain't going to solve anything and he has to know that.

 

[Winchesta Heat]

I agree that his method is questionable.... but the message within is correct.

 

[D Town Redd]

Ibeh thinkbeh Cosbehbybeh isbeh rightbeh.

fuckin hypocrit

what fuckin child goes throughout life and schooling of whatever kind in this country and isn't told by someone at some point that you learn reading, writing and mathematics to survive and to go to college? Give me a fucking break.


Education is a civil right? I totally agree, so address the heart of the fuckin matter which is economic disparities between communities and the level of education being provided them. I don't seem to hear any class struggle references but maybe they are being ommitted.

All parents are not responsible and no level of insults or call to arms rhetoric will change that. Children in less affluent communities are damn near abandoned by the education system why doesn't he focus on that? How about fighting for equal access to a quality education Mr. Education is a Civil Right?


He's like Tony Robbins with no fuckin sense. 99% of the people who'd even pay attention to the shit he's talking already have sense enough to not embody the stereotyped behavior he constantly runs down.

He should stick to druggin white/light women.

MOST INTELLIGENT POST HERE. Not just in this thread....the whole muhfuhn forum.

PREACH, bruh, PREACH



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[Armageddon]

Originally Posted by eewwll Cosby has good intentions, but horrible tactics. I dont care what your goal is..you can not expect to achieve it by humiliating the person or group that you are trying to influence. You can still be real and direct, but you have to be a bit more compassionate simultaneously.

Co-sign. As soon as you put people on the defensive they stop listening to what you have to say and start thinking about why you are wrong.

Both right, nothing more needs to be said!

 

[UltimateLurker]

It would seems like the "Cos" is trying to RUN for office

 

[jblaque]

<center>!He should have raised his son to have a heart of a warrior!</center>

 

[VegasGuy]

Education is a civil right? I totally agree, so address the heart of the fuckin matter which is economic disparities between communities and the level of education being provided them. I don't seem to hear any class struggle references but maybe they are being ommitted

It's highly unlikely there is a definitive answer to a question like that and I don't believe the Coz is trying to address what you assume to be 100 percent of the solution. Economics. To suggest money is the solution to this problem totally excuses bad choices we seem to make over and over again then look to blame anything and everything including economics as to why their lives are fucked up, generation after generation after generation.

Cosby is addressing those lazy ass, simple ass parents who spend more time making kids then trying to raise em.

-VG

 

[Makkonnen]

It's highly unlikely there is a definitive answer to a question like that and I don't believe the Coz is trying to address what you assume to be 100 percent of the solution. Economics. To suggest money is the solution to this problem totally excuses bad choices we seem to make over and over again then look to blame anything and everything including economics as to why their lives are fucked up, generation after generation after generation.

Cosby is addressing those lazy ass, simple ass parents who spend more time making kids then trying to raise em.

-VG

My saying "the heart of the matter is" does not mean "assume 100% of the matter is". To suggest better funding for low-income area schools is as good a solution that is attainable is totally reasonable.

Funny you mention the blame game but what is Cosby doing besides blaming the weakest members of society for being weak?

MLK wanted to feed the poor not talk shit about why they were personally responsible for being poorer than others. See the difference ?

I find attempting to give perpetually impoverished families "pep talks" as the sole aid to their plight totally irresponsible and morally corrupt.

Anyone who believes that impoverished children have the same opportunities and resources as middle class children or wealthy children is ignorant or a liar.

There seems to be 2 different conversations here. One where you and Coz talk shit about the morally corrupt idiots who bought into bullshit ways of life and who already had multiple strikes against them like being poor and black, and the other where people like myself talking about real ways to diminish the larger more clear aspect of the problem which is more easily cured via a secular non-discriminatory society(if we had that) like the one people pretend we live in.


I can guarantee and show evidence that better funding of schools will diminish black people in the legal system and poverty. Can you or anyone else do anything similar using this fuckin bullshit pep talk method?

I'm talking chemotherapy and you're talking faith healer. It seems we all want what is good for black people so I guess that should be the aspect of this to concentrate on.

Do you really believe that what Cos is doing is the best way to effect change? His philanthropic efforts do alot more than his angry old man routine IMO.

 

[Blkvoz]

It's highly unlikely there is a definitive answer to a question like that and I don't believe the Coz is trying to address what you assume to be 100 percent of the solution. Economics. To suggest money is the solution to this problem totally excuses bad choices we seem to make over and over again then look to blame anything and everything including economics as to why their lives are fucked up, generation after generation after generation.

Cosby is addressing those lazy ass, simple ass parents who spend more time making kids then trying to raise em.

-VG

I agree one hundred percent.

Many people here idolize as I do Brother Malcolm X. He never failed to illustrate some of the negative traits of Black men and women. He always did it from a position of love. The predominate theme of the Nation of Islam was self empowerment. Booker T Washington’s theme was learning to live and prosper in ones environment.

Cosby is saying no more than did Brother Malcolm, Elijah Muhammad, M. L. K. And every Black preacher, in every Black church, every Sunday.

What good does it do to sit and complain about the economic picture, without making some positive moves toward improving your own particular position.

The white man in this country has done and is doing more and more every day to keep us Black men and women in our place.

So what’s new, the same racial discrimination takes place in every country in the world. At the very least, we don’t have to be concerned with a bomb exploding when we go shopping. We are not in some refugee camp in Dafur. We are not in the middle of a civil war in the Sierra Leone.

To question Cosby’s delivery may be legit. His message is no different than thousands of others offered for the last few hundred years.

Personally I agree with him and his approach. By avoiding some of the negative aspects of our communities, do we hide the effects. Will a head in the sand eliminate some or any of our short comings.

Can we continue to blame the white man that destroyed Black family life by selling us to the highest bidder. Those offenders are dead.

Because some of my fore fathers were sent asunder, does that give me the right to continue the same destruction of Black family life and culture all in the name of once having been a slave.

Snoop Dog has used the N word more often than Bull Conner ever did. That is something we should stop saying, We must stop calling our Grand-Mothers, Mothers, Sisters. Aunts, Wives, Daughters, Nieces, Cousins, and friends, bitches.

If my mother is a bitch, guess what your mother is???

The elimination of just those two words , will go a long way in improving our own self worth and ultimately our national and international image.

Disparate educational facilities and curriculums are the fault of the Politicians, Business men, School Administrators, and Teachers.

Our failure to take full advantage of what opportunities are available to us regardless of the conditions, are our fault, not the fault of anyone else.

Failure on the part of us as parents, to hold the responsible parties accountable, is our failure, not the failure of the system.

Obstacles are placed in our path to stop or slow down the weak, uncommited, and undetermined. Those who view an obstacle as an opportunity, will ultimately prevail and cause that impediment to be removed or rendered impotent.

I am well aware the things I speak about are not easy to accomplish. But if you do nothing to remove an obstacle it will remain an obstacle.

 

[big-gus]

priorities, patience, and perception. Most of us when we are kids have the wrong priorities, no patience and a very bad perception on what it takes to become succesful. Success doesnt magically appear. we have to work hard to get where we want to be. the problem is that the education system is broken. The government is always saying that there is no funding but there are things that can be done that are not that expensive such as mentoring programs and afterschool programs. It sure beats spending billions on war.

 

[Makkonnen]

priorities, patience, and perception. Most of us when we are kids have the wrong priorities, no patience and a very bad perception on what it takes to become succesful. Success doesnt magically appear. we have to work hard to get where we want to be. the problem is that the education system is broken. The government is always saying that there is no funding but there are things that can be done that are not that expensive such as mentoring programs and afterschool programs. It sure beats spending billions on war.

And little things like afterschool programs and mentoring programs do a whole lot more than negative pep talks.
But it would take more courage to challenge the corrupt politicians who have cut those verifiably effective programs while literally "LOSING" billions of dollars in Iraq and overpaying no bid contracts.

 

[ronmch20]

The problem with Bill is there's no balance to what he says. It is so very easy to criticize, criticize, critize. He should, along with the criticism, offer up some solutions or at the very least periodically point out noteworthy positive things happening in the black experience.
Sorry to say but Bill has turned into a humorless curmudgeon since the tragic death of his only son.

 

[VegasGuy]

Funny you mention the blame game but what is Cosby doing besides blaming the weakest members of society for being weak?

MLK wanted to feed the poor not talk shit about why they were personally responsible for being poorer than others. See the difference ?

It's not a blame game. It's tough love. A reality check. A reawakening of the spirit. And I do see a difference between the two men but I wonder if you do. Bill Cosby Is NOT Martin Luther King and consequently, Martin Luther King isn't Bill Cosby. Neither is MLK, Lewis Farrakhan or Jesse Jackson but all have made simular condemnations of the lack of personal responsibility when it comes to family and community.

Now Cosby has not blamed those who are weak for being weak. Those who are admittedly weak are generally excused from participating in the fruits of society anyway and will always be dependant on the good nature of others for their livelihood utilizing the societal safety nets. Not a bad thing since as a kid I needed that safety net.

Some will call them burdens to society but even that isn't meant to degrade them as people. You yourself have admitted that the weakest in society should be supported and those in society who are weak are through social programs and tax codes.

That is a given.

Coz and others are addressing those who are capable of doing something about raising their children including participating with the public schools to better train their children.

Many of us grew up in single parent homes with an almost absent father, living off welfare money but still managed to climb out of poverty and get advanced degrees.

We didn't allow the lack of money as the excuse for not attaining the necessary tools we needed to succeed. Those tools are what is contained in your textbooks. But you have to be willing to commit to education in order to see it. That what Cosby and others are talking about. He is also bringing attention to those schools for not teaching those children the skills they will need to be successful. That doesn't involve money as much as it involves participation, commitment to success and hard work.

Talking blame game is a cop out because it allows those who practice failure use it as a means of escaping their responsibility to their children and community. Then get defensive when someone points it out.

-VG

 

[GET YOU HOT]

Co sign VG

Values and morals need to be restored, dont let up...

 

[Deezz]

I hope Cosby continues on his path. Good for him. Helps balance out all the bullshit that out here for our kids to see and hear.

 

[Jim_Browski]

Not this kneegrow, Cosby again...?



Kneegrows such as this separtist extraordinare and like-minded Watermelon Men/Women are the biggest problem with Black America....

What's the easiest thing for a bully to do once he's getting his ass kicked...attack the weakest member watching the fight.

Cosby and his horde of self-haters CANNOT compete with Whitey (because they're not White) so they have to go at the ONLY people in society over whom they have an advantage...to show Whitey that they are trying their best to assimliate into the mainstream.

If that's what you wanna do...FINE, just don't try to push your self-hate on the rest of the population by doing things like giving $25 million to Spelman while half the schools in North Philly don't have PC that work...don't talk about the inner city assumimg responsibilty for their actions when the only models for their actions are the criminals left to run rampant after the Watermelon Men/Women decided that the same inner city that raised them is no longer sufficient.

I pray for the day that Cosby speaks in my neck of the woods in New Jersey. I'm going to have his ass on the hotseat.

 

[VegasGuy]

Not this kneegrow, Cosby again...?



Kneegrows such as this separtist extraordinare and like-minded Watermelon Men/Women are the biggest problem with Black America....

What's the easiest thing for a bully to do once he's getting his ass kicked...attack the weakest member watching the fight.

Cosby and his horde of self-haters CANNOT compete with Whitey (because they're not White) so they have to go at the ONLY people in society over whom they have an advantage...to show Whitey that they are trying their best to assimliate into the mainstream.

If that's what you wanna do...FINE, just don't try to push your self-hate on the rest of the population by doing things like giving $25 million to Spelman while half the schools in North Philly don't have PC that work...don't talk about the inner city assumimg responsibilty for their actions when the only models for their actions are the criminals left to run rampant after the Watermelon Men/Women decided that the same inner city that raised them is no longer sufficient.

I pray for the day that Cosby speaks in my neck of the woods in New Jersey. I'm going to have his ass on the hotseat.

I'd pay for premium seats to see that exchange.

Tell me since you will probably only get to ask questions. If you got up to the mic and got to ask 3 questions, what would they be?

-VG

 

[Baldhead_Digital]

What he's saying is not wrong, but; I think Cosby is just old, and frustrated with what he sees going in the hood. The only stand out thing is that he has money, and white people like him because he's not threatening. Plus he can sell Jello pudding pops. has anybody ever spoke to Cosby on how unhealthy that Jello stuff is? Wait about ten more years, and Oprah will be doing the same thing.

 

[Jiggaa]

Cosby has good intentions, but horrible tactics. I dont care what your goal is..you can not expect to achieve it by humiliating the person or group that you are trying to influence. You can still be real and direct, but you have to be a bit more compassionate simultaneously.

you catch more flies with honey...

 

[Blkvoz]

I don't see the problem. If like many other so called do-gooders, his facts are wrong or he is lying, or if like most of us who run off at the mouth and do little or nothing else, then I can dig the controversy.

If he ignored the fact that the system had failed the poor person in general and the Black child in particular, then I can dig the controversy.

He is talking about the things we as Black men and women can do for ourselves.

I am sure he is not attempting to change the entire nation, or even all of the Black community, we all know that for one reason or another, too many of our kids will end up dropping out of school, going to jail, kids having kids, welfare mothers, and many of the things most of us reject.

I believe he is talking to those of us on the fence, not really knowing which way to go. I believe he is just attempting to influence those he can reach, hoping that out of every audience, his words will reach and positively influence a few.

Bottom line he has not told a lie, the negative things he has enumerated about our Black comminutes are too true. You may not like it, but getting mad at him for telling the truth, will not change the dismal picture.

Most of us can step out of our doors, and observe everything he is talking about in living color. Making excuses for what you see everyday, or being pleasant about what you see, will not change what you see.

Being scared in many cases to step out of your door because the losers he is talking about may rip your ass off, or you or yours might become a victim and another statistic from a drive by or become a victim of a turf dispute between two factions fighting over something neither of them owns.

The word drive by has acquired a new meaning, as opposed to 30 or 40 years ago. Everyone reading this knows what is meant by drive by. Where do most drive by incidents occur?

Right the first time, in the hood. Who are the victims and the perpetrators, in the hood?

Cos has not hurt anyone by what he has said, his actions and words have not injured anyone. The same cannot be said for some of those losers he is talking about.

I am assuming what he has said does not apply to most of us on this forum, if this be the case, then he is preaching to the choir.

If what he says in anyway applies to any of us, then perhaps instead of dumping on him, maybe we should try cleaning up our own shit.

Be it understood, I am in NO way accusing anyone here of being guilty of any form of neglect, so please do not get bent out of shape.

My point is, Cosby is on point, and maybe, just maybe, we would all be better served if we joined him in at least pointing out some of our short comings.

Instead of Blaming him for addressing the problem.

 

[GET YOU HOT]

I totally agree with this point...

If he ignored the fact that the system had failed the poor person in general and the Black child in particular, then I can dig the controversy.

He is talking about the things we as Black men and women can do for ourselves.

The fact that Cosby has a pair and is willing to put himself up to take it from all angles, is admirable. No one is saying he is 100% right!

People don't realize, that we need the knowledge & first accounts of experiences of these "leaders" who experienced the struggle for rights first hand. Stop taking them for granted. We need to listen now...