Conservatives Turn On Scott Brown Over Jobs Bill Vote

My bad, almost forgot about this gem.... Here you go!

Why You've Never Heard of the Great Depression of 1920

Presented by Thomas E. Woods, Jr., at "The Great Depression: What We Can Learn From It Today," the Mises Circle in Colorado; sponsored by Limited Government Forum of Colorado Springs and hosted by the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Recorded Saturday, 4 April 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI

You wanna answer mine now?

I already determined that you can answer the question. Everything else is just evasion.
 
I already determined that you can answer the question. Everything else is just evasion.

sounds like someone I know....

Anyway, I'm not surprise that Brown went for the jobs bill. At first, I liked the bill until I found out that he is only doing it towards the small businesses. *talking about cutting the capital gain tax*

Brown's job is to kill the health care bill. If he don't do that, then you will hear my criticism.
 
I already determined that you can answer the question. Everything else is just evasion.

No evasion, I answered your question and it is a fact that non-interventionist policies work.

Now, lets see if the govt can spend its way out of this mess like Keynesians think they can!

From a political standpoint, Keynesians only produce Big govt Dems & Big govt Repubs. Thats how I was able to tell you and the rest of the board, Scott Brown was a Dud on the day of his election, this sh*t is predictable.
 
No evasion, I answered your question and it is a fact that non-interventionist policies work.

Now, lets see if the govt can spend its way out of this mess like Keynesians think they can!

From a political standpoint, Keynesians only produce Big govt Dems & Big govt Repubs. Thats how I was able to tell you and the rest of the board, Scott Brown was a Dud on the day of his election, this sh*t is predictable.

Can someone help me? I missed where he answered my question.

I ask for an instance in which libertarianism has worked in history and he gives me a link to a corporatist trying to pimp a book. Revisionism is a muthafucka!
 
Can someone help me? I missed where he answered my question.

I ask for an instance in which libertarianism has worked in history and he gives me a link to a corporatist trying to pimp a book. Revisionism is a muthafucka!

:smh: Let me give your another version:

In order to make sure that this version of events sticks, little, if any, public mention is ever made of the depression of 1920–21. And no wonder: that historical experience deflates the ambitions of those who promise us political solutions to the real imbalances at the heart of economic busts. The conventional wisdom holds that in the absence of government countercyclical policy, whether fiscal or monetary (or both), we cannot expect economic recovery – at least, not without an intolerably long delay. Yet the very opposite policies were followed during the depression of 1920–21, and recovery was in fact not long in coming.

The economic situation in 1920 was grim. By that year unemployment had jumped from 4 percent to nearly 12 percent, and GNP declined 17 percent. No wonder, then, that Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover – falsely characterized as a supporter of laissez-faire economics – urged President Harding to consider an array of interventions to turn the economy around. Hoover was ignored.

Instead of “fiscal stimulus,” Harding cut the government’s budget nearly in half between 1920 and 1922. The rest of Harding’s approach was equally laissez-faire. Tax rates were slashed for all income groups. The national debt was reduced by one-third. The Federal Reserve’s activity, moreover, was hardly noticeable. As one economic historian puts it, “Despite the severity of the contraction, the Fed did not move to use its powers to turn the money supply around and fight the contraction.”2 By the late summer of 1921, signs of recovery were already visible. The following year, unemployment was back down to 6.7 percent and was only 2.4 percent by 1923.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods125.html
 
What part of that quote did you not understand?

The part where I asked you what time in history that laissez faire economics worked and you can't answer it.

It's actually a simple question. You could say ancient 'what ever' or this or that South/Central American country or during this or that Presidential administration. Because you know you can't. It is a political ideology that has no merit in reality. Just in plain terms where or when. If you can't answer it then I can assume that the argument is closed.

This is not a question that pits my word against yours it is a question that can be answered with a simple example.

Don't get actinanass evasive on me.
 
That's very interesting since Harding is considered a horrible President. Very interesting.

yeah, I guess the critcism came because he was viewed as a "do nothing" type of Pres. From an economic standpoint, its just an example of the govt allowing the economy to re-balance itself.

Now, :D You see why Thought is my favorite BGOL poster? You see he failed to acknowledge my counterpoint
 
That's very interesting since Harding is considered a horrible President. Very interesting.

Teapot Dome?

As I said, revisionism is a muthefucka. I've heard right wingers say Hoover wasn’t a conservative, Reagan was the most fiscally conservative president ever and Nixon was a liberal, even GW was liberal.:lol: You just got to love the balls of these people the way they spin history better than the Nazis! It’s always what might of happen rather than what did happen.

yeah, I guess the critcism came because he was viewed as a "do nothing" type of Pres. From an economic standpoint, its just an example of the govt allowing the economy to re-balance itself.

I guess when you fall out of an airplane with no parachute, when you hit the ground, splattering all over the place, this is technically called a rebalancing. That is your definition of laissez faire economics working?:smh:
 
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December 29, 2010


<font size="3">A Brown primary challenge?</font size>


Scott Brown is getting a lot of ink today with the announcement of a book tour and a profile of his efforts with Ron Wyden to tweak the health care law. And now there's talk of a primary challenge against Brown, who has tacked to the center:


But the threat of a primary challenge from conservatives — as well as the potential that national tea party groups will withhold financial support — appears to have grown, according to the movement’s activists. Brown’s votes in the past week follow his crucial support for the overhaul of financial regulations, which remains a particular sore point with conservatives.

“I think that there will be a primary challenge,’’ said Christen Varley, president of the Greater Boston Tea Party. “There’s enough of an underground movement in the <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">tea party movement as seeing him as not being conservative enough</span>. There probably will be multiple people who attempt to run against him.’’
 
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Ben Smith
December 29, 2010


A Brown primary challenge?


Scott Brown is getting a lot of ink today with the announcement of a book tour and a profile of his efforts with Ron Wyden to tweak the health care law. And now there's talk of a primary challenge against Brown, who has tacked to the center:

But the threat of a primary challenge from conservatives — as well as the potential that national tea party groups will withhold financial support — appears to have grown, according to the movement’s activists. Brown’s votes in the past week follow his crucial support for the overhaul of financial regulations, which remains a particular sore point with conservatives.

“I think that there will be a primary challenge,’’ said Christen Varley, president of the Greater Boston Tea Party. “There’s enough of an underground movement in the tea party movement as seeing him as not being conservative enough. There probably will be multiple people who attempt to run against him.’’

Brown got in the Senate representing Massachusetts by a fluke any how. The Tea Baggers think Brown got elected because they wanted a more conservative health care bill. They wanted a more liberal, single payer type plan. You can't demagogue voters in the North East like you can in the south.
 
If they turn on Brown and beat him in a primary, the Republicans will lose that seat.

look y'all, This is still Kennedy's seat! I've been consistent on Scott Brown, he is NOT a conservative. He doesn't advocate limited govt by supporting / voting for RomneyCare

Relax Dems, He will vote just as ol Ted Kennedy would vote

"Bailout" Bob Corker (R - TN) you're next

& I aint forgot about Lindsey "Grahamnesty" (R - SC)
 
look y'all, This is still Kennedy's seat! I've been consistent on Scott Brown, he is NOT a conservative. He doesn't advocate limited govt by supporting / voting for RomneyCare

Relax Dems, He will vote just as ol Ted Kennedy would vote

"Bailout" Bob Corker (R - TN) you're next

& I aint forgot about Lindsey "Grahamnesty" (R - SC)


I don't think he's a hardline conservative but he's far, far from Kennedy. But, with the mood being what it is, anything short of being extremely Right wing can cost a Republican in a primary. Lisa Murkowski is a conservative and lost her primary. She gets challenged from the Right every cycle.

I don't see Corker or Graham going anywhere even if they're primaried. They have too much money and influence to be unseated. Brown is vulnerable because he wouldn't have of that "Tea Party" support and would have to hope Republicans voted with the general in mind.
 
LOL: National Republican Trust Wants Refund For Supporting Scott Brown

Washington Times
January 30, 2011


The National Republican Trust spent nearly $100,000 last year to help Scott Brown win the U.S. Senate seat of the late Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat, but now the conservative political group wishes it had that money back to help kick Mr. Brown out of office.

Saying the Republican senator is no different from a Democrat, the head of the group is calling for Mr. Brown to donate to charity or disgorge campaign money equal to how much the trust spent supporting him during the 2010 campaign.

The trust’s executive director, Scott Wheeler, said supporters knew Mr. Brown wasn’t going to be a die-hard conservative when they supported him early and often in his run against Martha Coakley, the Democratic state attorney general and once heavy favorite to succeed Mr. Kennedy.

But Mr. Wheeler said he and his group’s conservative backers are now disillusioned, citing Mr. Brown’s vote to ratify the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START) with Russia, which the group sharply opposed.

“New START is something he should have been able to vote against,” Mr. Wheeler said.

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<font size="3">The trust’s executive director, Scott Wheeler, said supporters <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">knew Mr. Brown wasn’t going to be a die-hard conservative when they supported him</span> early and often in his run against Martha Coakley, the Democratic state attorney general and once heavy favorite to succeed Mr. Kennedy.</font sze>

<font size="3">And they want a refund ???

:smh:
 
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