Conservatives Blame Police Brutality Protests for NYPD Killings

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Conservatives Blame Police Brutality Protests for NYPD Killings
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The man who shot and killed two NYPD officers was mentally ill and suicidal. The killer could've been motivated by Zoloft, Xanax, Sharpton or Rudy Giuliani. Either way it doesn't make much difference.
 
I blame conservatives,

for being stagnant non progressing closet faggots intent on keeping

the nation divided and in chaos....

because being conservative and stagnant insures their hoarded money stays hoarded...


sorry the masses coming to get that bigger slice of pie, we dont give a fuck how conservative you wanna b...


we gonna get some pie, not crumbs..

pie muthafuckas PIE!!!!
 
Real shit, I blame the damn mayor for that fucked up ass policy that started all this bullshit.

How is it going to be illegal to sell your own property in the NYC?

I don't give a damn about it being a cigarette.

That's like choking out a grandma because she is conducting an illegal garage sale.

BTW, I find it ironic that folks on here complain about the police, but vote for more regulations/laws that will make these fuckers even worse. In my honest opinion, you all are hypocrites. This is why I really don't fuck with this board anymore.
 
Real shit, I blame the damn mayor for that fucked up ass policy that started all this bullshit.

How is it going to be illegal to sell your own property in the NYC?

I don't give a damn about it being a cigarette.

That's like choking out a grandma because she is conducting an illegal garage sale.

BTW, I find it ironic that folks on here complain about the police, but vote for more regulations/laws that will make these fuckers even worse. In my honest opinion, you all are hypocrites. This is why I really don't fuck with this board anymore.

Hands Up dont shoot

I cant breathe

thats all I got to say..

Good night and Happy Holidays
 
Real shit, I blame the damn mayor for that fucked up ass policy that started all this bullshit.

How is it going to be illegal to sell your own property in the NYC?

I don't give a damn about it being a cigarette.

That's like choking out a grandma because she is conducting an illegal garage sale.

BTW, I find it ironic that folks on here complain about the police, but vote for more regulations/laws that will make these fuckers even worse. In my honest opinion, you all are hypocrites. This is why I really don't fuck with this board anymore.

Thanks for econ 101 paraphrase but fool, you offer nothing different that blackie hate whitey everyday.

I blame whitey!

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Fox Affiliate Apologizes On-Air For Misleading Edit Of Protester Chant


WATCH: Protester Confronts Fox Station That Deceptively Edited 'Kill A Cop' Chant

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A Baltimore Fox affiliate apologized Monday night for a report it ran over the weekend that deceptively edited protestors to look like they were chanting "kill a cop."

Gawker originally caught WBFF chopping up footage of a protest chant to sound like incitement to murder police on Monday.

The chant went "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops, are in cell blocks," according to C-SPAN footage.

But WBFF cut the audio short and told viewers that the words were in fact "we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop."

The station apologized both on its Facebook page and in an interview with one of the protestors leading the chant, Tawanda Jones.

"Although last night’s report reflected an honest misunderstanding of what the protesters were saying, we apologize for the error," the post read.

"We have deleted the story on our webpage and we offered to have Ms. Jones on Fox45 News at 5:00 tonight for a live interview," it continued.

In that interview, Jones called out the station several times for misrepresenting her words.

"The interesting part that really gets to me is, where you guys edited it and stopped — like, how could that be a mistake?" she said.

"Once you play that whole thing, you would know that's not something that's being said," she added.

The interviewer apologized several times, and though Jones told the station she was grateful to come on, she also said she now fears for her reputation and her safety. Near the end of the interview she began to cry.

"At the end of the day, people's lives are on the line," she said. "Now, even though we're doing this, I still don't feel safe because I still feel like the message is out there."

"What if a crazed-out cop or a crazed-out supporter thinks I'm trying to get cops killed?" she later said, wiping tears from her face.


Watch the interview with Jones below, courtesy of WBFF:


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Real shit, I blame the damn mayor for that fucked up ass policy that started all this bullshit.


Mayors don't pass, enact or adopt laws (resolutions and ordinances in municipalities); city councils, the legislative bodies of local government, do that.

Nevertheless, who do we blame for this ignorance, i.e., blaming a law for a police officer choking a mofo to death ?

 

Mayors don't pass, enact or adopt laws (resolutions and ordinances in municipalities); city councils, the legislative bodies of local government, do that.

Nevertheless, who do we blame for this ignorance, i.e., blaming a law for a police officer choking a mofo to death ?


Let me clarify, I'm talking about from the top down to the damn dog catcher in New York City. The policy of "cracking down" on *insert cigarettes,soda,salt,horses,ect* is ridiculous.

This is why I'm against having an all powerful, big government, dictating every aspect of our lives.

My point is, if those cops did not get orders to crack down on such actions, Garner would be alive right now. Frustrated police tend to act out on US.

BTW, the cop should have been charged with criminal negligent homicide IMO.
 
Let me clarify, I'm talking about from the top down to the damn dog catcher in New York City. The policy of "cracking down" on *insert cigarettes,soda,salt,horses,ect* is ridiculous.

Let me be clearer. Whether a particular law is silly, in its application or enforcement; or whether a particular law is one we all agree is needed and believe should be strictly enforced - - choking the perpetrator to fucking death in the enforcement of that law is just wrong, plainly and simply.

Now you can try to nuance the facts with a zillion hypotheticals, i.e., was using deadly force necessary to protect the life of the enforcer or the life of another, etc., but without going through needless hypo's, NONE of those nuances were at play in the Garner case (and its questionable whether they were at play in the Michael Brown case).


This is why I'm against having an all powerful, big government, dictating every aspect of our lives.

My point is, if those cops did not get orders to crack down on such actions, Garner would be alive right now. Frustrated police tend to act out on US.

That "big government" argument is just "conservative-speak gone wild." Mr. Garner didn't die because some cops cracked down on th enforcement of a law some think silly. Mr. Garner died because the actions of one or more officers went beyond the damn pale.
 
Let me be clearer. Whether a particular law is silly, in its application or enforcement; or whether a particular law is one we all agree is needed and believe should be strictly enforced - - choking the perpetrator to fucking death in the enforcement of that law is just wrong, plainly and simply.

Now you can try to nuance the facts with a zillion hypotheticals, i.e., was using deadly force necessary to protect the life of the enforcer or the life of another, etc., but without going through needless hypo's, NONE of those nuances were at play in the Garner case (and its questionable whether they were at play in the Michael Brown case).




That "big government" argument is just "conservative-speak gone wild." Mr. Garner didn't die because some cops cracked down on th enforcement of a law some think silly. Mr. Garner died because the actions of one or more officers went beyond the damn pale.

1. Didn't I say that the cop who choked Garner should be charge with criminal negligent homicide?

2. Why did they harass Garner initially? What did they suspect Garner of doing actually?
 
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1. Eric Garner had been busted before for selling untaxed cigarettes.

In March 2014, 43-year-old Eric Garner was arrested for selling untaxed cigarettes. The NYPD cracks down on low-level offenses like these because of "broken-window policing" — a strategy that former Mayor Rudy Giuliani started in which low-level offenses are given harsh penalties. Why?

According to Giuliani:

"Murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes. But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other.”

So untaxed cigarettes were also on the same spectrum as murder. A bit ironic given how much cigarettes negatively affect people's health, and yet none of the huge tobacco manufacturers are being pursued by the police.

Before you say, "But Eric was breaking the law!" keep this in mind. A pack of cigarettes. A pack of untaxed cigarettes. Let that image remain in your head.

2. The day he died, Garner was trying to break up a fight. When police arrived, the fight was over.

It happened on Staten Island. Two policemen spotted Garner successfully breaking up a fight between two other people.

In spite of this, the police didn't concern themselves much with the two people who were fighting. Instead, they focused on Garner.

3. The police again tried to arrest Eric for selling cigarettes.

Even though Garner had just stopped two people from assaulting each other, he was suddenly the culprit in the situation.

When the two policemen tried to arrest him, Garner's response was:

“Every time you see me, you try to arrest me. I’m tired of it. It stops today.”

One of the policemen who tried to arrest Garner is Daniel Pantaleo.

4. Pantaleo placed Garner in a choke hold.

That image above? That's like the choke hold used on Eric. Pantaleo probably didn't know it, Eric was suffering from asthma.

5. Choke holds are banned by the NYPD.

Before you say, "But Pantaleo had the right to use force on a man who was breaking the law!" what he did was actually against the NYPD's rules as of 1993. By putting Garner in a choke hold, he was violating the rules he was bound to as a police officer. He did not have the authority to use that force.

A few days after Garner's death, Pantaleo was stripped of his badge and gun.

6. Garner died after the chokehold. His last words were, "I can't breathe."

His last words started trending on Twitter months later under the hashtag #ICantBreathe.

7. Four medics at the scene didn't give Garner CPR.

In a cellphone video, one of Garner's friends showed that neither the EMTs nor the policemen at the scene were giving him CPR, even though he was clearly unconscious.

This was after Garner's head hit the concrete, according to a friend, and blood was coming out of his mouth.

The four EMTs were suspended for two days without pay.

8. A medical examiner ruled Garner's death a homicide.

On Aug. 1, 2014, the NYC medical examiner linked Pantaleo's chokehold to Garner's death, as well as "prone positioning during physical restraint by police."

9. There was a video of Eric's death.

Out of respect, we're choosing not to include the video. This description from a Time article should be enough:

Orta’s video shows what appears to be one officer pressing Garner’s face into the sidewalk as other officers attempt to subdue him. On the ground, Garner can be heard repeatedly saying "I can’t breathe."

How about the guy who filmed Garner's death, Ramsey Orta? Well...

10. A grand jury indicted the man who filmed Garner's death.

He wasn't indicted for filming the incident. But Orta was indicted on weapons charges about a month after he filmed Garner's death. According to the Huffington Post:

Orta testified that the charges were falsely mounted by police in retaliation for his role in documenting Garner's death, but the grand jury rejected his contention, charging him with single felony counts of third-degree criminal weapon possession and criminal firearm possession.

And then, in a twist of fate...

11. A grand jury did not indict the police officer who killed Garner.

See the New York Times for the story.

So selling untaxed cigarettes ended up in a man dying and a policeman not facing charges. How can we call this justice?
10 out of 1,000 American police officers are accused of misconduct.
23.8% of those have been accused of excessive force.
68% of felony defendants in the general population are convicted.
However, only 33% of police accused of misconduct are convicted.

(All these facts are via FiveThirtyEight).

You can find out more about police abuse by checking out this ACLU action manual here. It might be from 1997, but you'd be surprised how relevant (sadly) it still is nearly 18 years later.

Prison Culture, which is a pretty epic blog, has some resources, too.

The Harvard Kennedy School also has some good readings collected by its center on media, politics, and public policy that you should totally check out if you have the time.
 
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1. Eric Garner had been busted before for selling untaxed cigarettes.

In March 2014, 43-year-old Eric Garner was arrested for selling untaxed cigarettes. The NYPD cracks down on low-level offenses like these because of "broken-window policing" — a strategy that former Mayor Rudy Giuliani started in which low-level offenses are given harsh penalties. Why?

According to Giuliani:

"Murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes. But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other.”

So untaxed cigarettes were also on the same spectrum as murder. A bit ironic given how much cigarettes negatively affect people's health, and yet none of the huge tobacco manufacturers are being pursued by the police.

Before you say, "But Eric was breaking the law!" keep this in mind. A pack of cigarettes. A pack of untaxed cigarettes. Let that image remain in your head.

2. The day he died, Garner was trying to break up a fight. When police arrived, the fight was over.

It happened on Staten Island. Two policemen spotted Garner successfully breaking up a fight between two other people.

In spite of this, the police didn't concern themselves much with the two people who were fighting. Instead, they focused on Garner.

3. The police again tried to arrest Eric for selling cigarettes.

Even though Garner had just stopped two people from assaulting each other, he was suddenly the culprit in the situation.

When the two policemen tried to arrest him, Garner's response was:

“Every time you see me, you try to arrest me. I’m tired of it. It stops today.”

One of the policemen who tried to arrest Garner is Daniel Pantaleo.

4. Pantaleo placed Garner in a choke hold.

That image above? That's like the choke hold used on Eric. Pantaleo probably didn't know it, Eric was suffering from asthma.

5. Choke holds are banned by the NYPD.

Before you say, "But Pantaleo had the right to use force on a man who was breaking the law!" what he did was actually against the NYPD's rules as of 1993. By putting Garner in a choke hold, he was violating the rules he was bound to as a police officer. He did not have the authority to use that force.

A few days after Garner's death, Pantaleo was stripped of his badge and gun.

6. Garner died after the chokehold. His last words were, "I can't breathe."

His last words started trending on Twitter months later under the hashtag #ICantBreathe.

7. Four medics at the scene didn't give Garner CPR.

In a cellphone video, one of Garner's friends showed that neither the EMTs nor the policemen at the scene were giving him CPR, even though he was clearly unconscious.

This was after Garner's head hit the concrete, according to a friend, and blood was coming out of his mouth.

The four EMTs were suspended for two days without pay.

8. A medical examiner ruled Garner's death a homicide.

On Aug. 1, 2014, the NYC medical examiner linked Pantaleo's chokehold to Garner's death, as well as "prone positioning during physical restraint by police."

9. There was a video of Eric's death.

Out of respect, we're choosing not to include the video. This description from a Time article should be enough:

Orta’s video shows what appears to be one officer pressing Garner’s face into the sidewalk as other officers attempt to subdue him. On the ground, Garner can be heard repeatedly saying "I can’t breathe."

How about the guy who filmed Garner's death, Ramsey Orta? Well...

10. A grand jury indicted the man who filmed Garner's death.

He wasn't indicted for filming the incident. But Orta was indicted on weapons charges about a month after he filmed Garner's death. According to the Huffington Post:

Orta testified that the charges were falsely mounted by police in retaliation for his role in documenting Garner's death, but the grand jury rejected his contention, charging him with single felony counts of third-degree criminal weapon possession and criminal firearm possession.

And then, in a twist of fate...

11. A grand jury did not indict the police officer who killed Garner.

See the New York Times for the story.

So selling untaxed cigarettes ended up in a man dying and a policeman not facing charges. How can we call this justice?
10 out of 1,000 American police officers are accused of misconduct.
23.8% of those have been accused of excessive force.
68% of felony defendants in the general population are convicted.
However, only 33% of police accused of misconduct are convicted.

(All these facts are via FiveThirtyEight).

You can find out more about police abuse by checking out this ACLU action manual here. It might be from 1997, but you'd be surprised how relevant (sadly) it still is nearly 18 years later.

Prison Culture, which is a pretty epic blog, has some resources, too.

The Harvard Kennedy School also has some good readings collected by its center on media, politics, and public policy that you should totally check out if you have the time.

1. Where's Guiliani? Who's the mayor now?

2. Police harassment at it's finest...

3. back to number 2.

4. In the grand jury mind, Garner resisted arrest. I do not agree with this because I feel that the police should have calm the situation down instead of forcing the issue about some damn cigarettes...

5. They should have focused on what they could get the cop with more than trying to throw murder around. The likelihood of getting a cop for murder in a heavily unionize state like New York is next to .00000005%.

6.7. This should have been the evidence to get some sort of an indictment. Medics are suppose to help anyone that's in need of medical care. Garner family better sue the shit out of that fucking city.

8. Any death by the hands of another human is considered homicide. The case is about if the cop, in the eyes of the grand jury, committed cold blooded murder. It should have been "did the cop commit ANY wrongdoing at all." This is the mistake we keep making. We can't demand an indictment that's unrealistic. We have to demand that the grand jury see all the evidence, and charge the suspect accordingly.

9. The situation is tense seems like. I don't really know what to say about this.

10. The products of gun control. Something this board supports...

11. Lets all remember this, the police tends to have some of the best lawyers defending them. They know how to give a proper interview. They understand the gravity of the situation at all times. Plus, they are protected by the police unions. It is never going to be easy to get a cop with any type of crime in a big union city like New York, or LA. This is why you cannot argue with the police at any time. I don't give a fuck what other races do.
 
1. Where's Guiliani? Who's the mayor now?

2. Police harassment at it's finest...

3. back to number 2.

4. In the grand jury mind, Garner resisted arrest. I do not agree with this because I feel that the police should have calm the situation down instead of forcing the issue about some damn cigarettes...

5. They should have focused on what they could get the cop with more than trying to throw murder around. The likelihood of getting a cop for murder in a heavily unionize state like New York is next to .00000005%.

6.7. This should have been the evidence to get some sort of an indictment. Medics are suppose to help anyone that's in need of medical care. Garner family better sue the shit out of that fucking city.

8. Any death by the hands of another human is considered homicide. The case is about if the cop, in the eyes of the grand jury, committed cold blooded murder. It should have been "did the cop commit ANY wrongdoing at all." This is the mistake we keep making. We can't demand an indictment that's unrealistic. We have to demand that the grand jury see all the evidence, and charge the suspect accordingly.

9. The situation is tense seems like. I don't really know what to say about this.

10. The products of gun control. Something this board supports...

11. Lets all remember this, the police tends to have some of the best lawyers defending them. They know how to give a proper interview. They understand the gravity of the situation at all times. Plus, they are protected by the police unions. It is never going to be easy to get a cop with any type of crime in a big union city like New York, or LA. This is why you cannot argue with the police at any time. I don't give a fuck what other races do.


Giuliani Blames President Obama for Fatal Shootings of NYPD Cops

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Giuliani Blames President Obama for Fatal Shootings of NYPD Cops

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It's funny, and typical that once someone of your side fucks up, you find the nearest republican to place the blame on.

Socialist always need their scapegoats. Real or imaginary...

This is another reason I rarely engage with this part of the board like I used to. I know your playbook before you use it.
 
It's funny, and typical that once someone of your side fucks up, you find the nearest republican to place the blame on.

Socialist always need their scapegoats. Real or imaginary...

This is another reason I rarely engage with this part of the board like I used to. I know your playbook before you use it.


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1. Didn't I say that the cop who choked Garner should be charge with criminal negligent homicide?

2. Why did they harass Garner initially? What did they suspect Garner of doing actually?

It doesn't matter what the laws are that police are enforcing. The police should be able to enforce laws without killing people. I don't care if they pass a 'no walking your dog law,' it can be enforced without people dying if the people enforcing the law know they will be held accountable for their actions.....
 
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