College Educated Sistas I Have A Question 4 U?

[followup]

Cool. I guess you're strictly white collar...nuttin wrong with that. Can I ask what does your man do? And are you sure about becoming an owner without having worked there? I worked there yearsssss ago...I was 16 & I don't think you could EVER get a McD's without having worked there.

Not at all. Grew up around all blue collar guys and that's what I prefer. That's why I don't care if a brother didn't go to college really. My last man is now a surgeon. The one before him is a fireman and the one before that is a teacher. Yes I only have had 3 boyfriends LOL.

I'm pretty sure of the ownership thing. If you've got enough money you can open up multiple franchises. I know a guy when I was a kid. He owned some car dealerships and a McDonald's. I don't think he ever actually worked there. I could be wrong

 

[whoalilmomma]

I really wanna be a bigger person and say that education doesn't matter buuuuuuuuuuuut

I'd probably be lying to you.

I'm sure that different circumstances warrant different decisions, but as a general rule, I probably wouldn't date someone who didn't have a college education unless there was something very special about him and what he was trying to get done in his life. That probably makes me shallow...sorry.

 

[DeSiRe]

my first choice would be to date/marry a man who has a college education like myself

BUT

i know that there are some sucessful men out there without degrees...

as long as he is ambitious and has a plan i wouldnt turn him down

 

[Chicutie]

I agree with BiGirl. I think that college educated doesn't necessarily mean the person is intelligent. Some of the most intelligent and resourceful men I know don't have an education beyond high school. Some of them have trades, etc. So that being said as long as a man is comfortable in the differences in our backgrounds, I wouldn't be opposed to it either.

 

[QueEx]

Thinking to myself . . . gotta figure a betta way to market this GED.

 

[black again]

Not at all. Grew up around all blue collar guys and that's what I prefer. That's why I don't care if a brother didn't go to college really. My last man is now a surgeon. The one before him is a fireman and the one before that is a teacher. Yes I only have had 3 boyfriends LOL.

I'm pretty sure of the ownership thing. If you've got enough money you can open up multiple franchises. I know a guy when I was a kid. He owned some car dealerships and a McDonald's. I don't think he ever actually worked there. I could be wrong

So let me ask, is it you just don't like McDonald's..at all
I'm j/k, but if it's ok to be a blue collar guy...a rest. mgr is a blue collar job. Right? But if it's McD's.. I'd manage a Mickey D's before I taught school or was a fireman. You couldn't pay me enough to walk into a burning building, unless my fam was in there. Me personally, I'm money motivated. It's nice to do something you enjoy, and where you can make a difference. But I gotta get paid. I'll bet you a Whopper & fries that a store mgr at McD's, in a good store, if he's making any bonus, is topping out in the high 5 figures...$75k +..and that ain't really good money, by any stretch, but better than a teacher or fireman.

If you own A McDonald's, your store does well, and you have the bank, you can get MORE McD's. Getting the first one without a lotta chedda, and no history in the company or never attended the univ. I don't think is that easy..I worked for the first Black Mcd's owner, a hundred yrs ago. Yeah, you'd never get that grease smell outta ya house, if ya man worked there.

 

[DeSiRe]

Thinking to myself . . . gotta figure a betta way to market this GED.

boy stoppppp!

 

[JofromthaNO]

My current guy doesn't have anything past a year of college...he went, and figured it wasn't for him and what we is currently doing nor wants to do with life. However, he didn't just stop there...he's constantly figuring out new ways to further his education in the field he wants to further it in and marketing himself new ways...I respect him for that, and not just throwing in my face that I have TWO degrees, and he has none...

I had a guy do that to me once, and it felt like insecurity, pure insecurity. No one, male or female, wants to be with that...

 

[Cleopatra_J]

But I gotta get paid. I'll bet you a Whopper & fries that a store mgr at McD's, in a good store, if he's making any bonus, is topping out in the high 5 figures...$75k +..and that ain't really good money, by any stretch, but better than a teacher or fireman.

I worked at McDonald's when I was in high school and trust and believe them managers are not topping 75k... hell to the no... some of the managers are still hourly... and others (store managers) barely are doing 40k... and I worked at the busiest McD's in my area... The only money in there is in ownership...


Anywho... to answer the original question.. I would date someone without a degree... I mean like someone else said, they could be into trade... construction, electrician.. those are both very good jobs, and can lead to salaries above those of what someone with a degree might make. Having a degree means nothing more than you are trainable, so if you lack the drive and passion to go forward and succeed with that it means nothing. I'd definitely rather be with a man who was passionate about his work than someone who just does it for the money and comes home miserable every night...

 

[followup]

Thinking to myself . . . gotta figure a betta way to market this GED.

No you don't. It is what it is. If you're a good man, you will attract a good woman

 

[caramelcute]

If you help me out by showing and proving to me there are gentlemen in the world, Ill help you out by being a female you never are ashamed of.


Thats all that matters to me.

 

[QueEx]

No you don't. It is what it is. If you're a good man, you will attract a good woman

You're right sweetie, what wuz I thinking? A Good Educated Dick is what it is.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

Cute.
Once again, a woman can say this same exact thing. There are plenty of smart, cute, educated, successful women that pass over non-successful men, because they can.

I don't buy into the "good black men are in high demand" thing. I actually think that state of mind is part of our culture's problem which has lead to the breakdown of the black family. Black men are just a fraction of the population, and black women can date outside of their race. So if I find that there are no more "good black men", I can date someone else...it's not that hard.

However, I have another related question. What are women supposed to do while men are busy fucking around? Not fuck around? Since you mentioned that women can't do the same thing as guys....

Why the hell would I know anything about what black men truly desire in a woman?.................I am only a black man

Well you may not buy into the GOOD BLACK MEN ARE IN HIGH DEMAND thing.......but should I ask the MILLIONS OF SUBSCRIBERS to ESSENCE MAGAZINE?

Just because you want something to be .......does not make it so. The truth of the matter is that if you look at the actual FACTS and not your emotional opinion.......
Black Women graduate from college almost 2:1 of Black Men
Look at even the higschool dropout rate among black men.
Look at the brothers that have been incarcerated and have records that do not allow them to get HIGH WAGE PAYING JOBS.

Those are the facts... so you can say that GOOD BLACK MEN are not in high demand........yet what is the FACTUAL BASIS of your argument?

Trust me...I'm not trying "combat" you...I am simply letting you know a male's p.o.v. take it as you will.

Now I will address your latter question.
What are women supposed to do while men are fucking around?
You are supposed to do what women have done since the dawn of time.
Be the best WOMAN that you can be.........while having and displaying the most attractive characteristics/qualities so that you can to be CHOSEN by the type of man that you desire.

As a woman you are going to have to work harder to win the affection of a C.E.O of a company than you will the local hood that bought you drinks at the club.

Yet too many sistas take the easy way out. They rather just rely on their vagina to keep the attention of sorry ass Leroy at the club...........than to do the shit necessary to attract BRADFORD the MBA and VP at the company.

BRADFORD has a larger pool of capable women to choose from. So he has a much higher standard and selection process than Leroy the nigga from the club. In order for a woman to seperate herself from the quality broads he dealing with.........she gonna have to bring her "A" game to the table.

Or let me break it down further.
If you got a PHAT ASS and that is all.........sure you can get ANY NIGGA TO FUCK YOU.

But if you got your shit together and WORK ON PRESENTING YOURSELF AS A LADY (By man's definition) at all times. Then once you gain the interest of said suitor........you work TO SEPERATE YOURSELF from the competition of other women.....THEN YOU WILL BE CHOSEN.

Oh I almost forgot. Black women are the demographic group LEAST LIKELY TO DATE OUTSIDE OF THEIR RACE.
Really again........because women choose who they let fuck them. MEN CHOOSE WHO THEY MARRY.

Men of other races as a whole don't see the benefit of passing up their OWN women to fuck with black women. Generally speaking.

Notice the type of black women that you see men of other RACES CHOOSE.

Plus most men are going to choose a woman that behaves in a manner that they are raised and accustomed to.

I can't really see TOO many Sistas socializing themselves in a manner that women of other races do.

• Will you play the submissive role to an ASIAN MAN?
• Will you be the "agreeable" woman to the WHITE MAN and immediately recognize him as the TRUE head of the household?
• Will you know your role as the DOMESTIC to a LATINO MAN?

If you answered yes to any of the above.............
Then why won't you do that shit for a black man?

"Why the hell would I know what black men truly desire in a woman.................I am only a black man"
I'm sure you feel the advice from OPRAH, TYRA, and YOUR GIRLFRIENDS are better qualified to tell you what black men want.

 

[SEXY_SCORPIO]

You're right sweetie, what wuz I thinking? A Good Educated Dick is what it is.

Hell yea

 

[PrincessC]

Why the hell would I know anything about what black men truly desire in a woman?.................I am only a black man

When did I say that you wouldn't know?? That's why I asking you.

Well you may not buy into the GOOD BLACK MEN ARE IN HIGH DEMAND thing.......but should I ask the MILLIONS OF SUBSCRIBERS to ESSENCE MAGAZINE?


Just because you want something to be .......does not make it so. The truth of the matter is that if you look at the actual FACTS and not your emotional opinion.......
Black Women graduate from college almost 2:1 of Black Men
Look at even the higschool dropout rate among black men.
Look at the brothers that have been incarcerated and have records that do not allow them to get HIGH WAGE PAYING JOBS.

Those are the facts... so you can say that GOOD BLACK MEN are not in high demand........yet what is the FACTUAL BASIS of your argument?

I think good men in general are in high demand. I have friends of all races who are educated, pretty, blah blah insert whatever quality you want here, and are still single. Ever watch Sex and the City? White chicks galore that have tons of problems finding men. "Good Men" of any race are few and far between it seems, but I'm not disagreeing with you since you explained it that way.

Trust me...I'm not trying "combat" you...

You sure? I'm not here to beef with you.

I am simply letting you know a male's p.o.v. take it as you will.

Now I will address your latter question.
What are women supposed to do while men are fucking around?
You are supposed to do what women have done since the dawn of time.
Be the best WOMAN that you can be.........while having and displaying the most attractive characteristics/qualities so that you can to be CHOSEN by the type of man that you desire.

Women's roles have drastically changed, making it harder and harder to do the "traditional" roles. But according to you, since women are supposed to remain the same, shouldn't men stick to their role too? Since when did a man's role become to fuck as many chicks as possible?

As a woman you are going to have to work harder to win the affection of a C.E.O of a company than you will the local hood that bought you drinks at the club.

Yet too many sistas take the easy way out. They rather just rely on their vagina to keep the attention of sorry ass Leroy at the club...........than to do the shit necessary to attract BRADFORD the MBA and VP at the company.

BRADFORD has a larger pool of capable women to choose from. So he has a much higher standard and selection process than Leroy the nigga from the club. In order for a woman to seperate herself from the quality broads he dealing with.........she gonna have to bring her "A" game to the table.

Black women did not invent sleeping around. Becky's rely on their vagina to keep the attention of sorry ass John too. Also, I know a quite a few Bradford's. The ones I know are not checking for black women, even the ones that are on his level. Don't you think that is a valid issue as well?

Or let me break it down further.
If you got a PHAT ASS and that is all.........sure you can get ANY NIGGA TO FUCK YOU.

But if you got your shit together and WORK ON PRESENTING YOURSELF AS A LADY (By man's definition) at all times. Then once you gain the interest of said suitor........you work TO SEPERATE YOURSELF from the competition of other women.....THEN YOU WILL BE CHOSEN.

Eh. If you say so. Pussy is pussy, and pretty much anyone can get a phat ass now. Only dumb hoes think that their vagina is golden, and those aren't the women I'm talking about. I'm talking about the one's that have the opposite attitude and actually have something going for them. Why are they being passed up so a guy can go fuck around until he gets tired?

Oh I almost forgot. Black women are the demographic group LEAST LIKELY TO DATE OUTSIDE OF THEIR RACE.
Really again........because women choose who they let fuck them. MEN CHOOSE WHO THEY MARRY.

In general terms, black women are the least likely, but I have a lot of black female friends who are in successful relationships with non black men. It's not uncommon where I am to see a black woman and a hispanic or white man. Hopefully one day people will have a more open mind.

Men of other races as a whole don't see the benefit of passing up their OWN women to fuck with black women. Generally speaking.

Notice the type of black women that you see men of other RACES CHOOSE.

Plus most men are going to choose a woman that behaves in a manner that they are raised and accustomed to.

I can't really see TOO many Sistas socializing themselves in a manner that women of other races do.

• Will you play the submissive role to an ASIAN MAN?
• Will you be the "agreeable" woman to the WHITE MAN and immediately recognize him as the TRUE head of the household?
• Will you know your role as the DOMESTIC to a LATINO MAN?

Hahaha, I have. You would be surprised at the attitude change in some women once they get a man...it's laughable. Desperation and a ticking biological clock can tame the most abrasive woman. But I see what you're saying.

If you answered yes to any of the above.............
Then why won't you do that shit for a black man?

"Why the hell would I know what black men truly desire in a woman.................I am only a black man"
I'm sure you feel the advice from OPRAH, TYRA, and YOUR GIRLFRIENDS are better qualified to tell you what black men want.

These women will do it for their non black man because they just want a man period. Like I said, desperation can make you change your attitude.
Lastly...your last comment doesn't make sense because I didn't even come at you like that. I guess you're referring to other women who have questioned you before. Whatever. I'll also assume thats what you meant when you mentioned Oprah and Tyra?? Those women have nothing to do with me, but ok.
Thanks for your input.

 

[HoneyDip]

I would as long as he has a job and a good head. He does have to at least graduate high school since i'm planning on finishing college...

 

[DiamondDeuce]

]When did I say that you wouldn't know?? That's why I asking you.


I think good men in general are in high demand. I have friends of all races who are educated, pretty, blah blah insert whatever quality you want here, and are still single. Ever watch Sex and the City? White chicks galore that have tons of problems finding men. "Good Men" of any race are few and far between it seems, but I'm not disagreeing with you since you explained it that way. Cool


You sure? I'm not here to beef with you.
Cool

Women's roles have drastically changed, making it harder and harder to do the "traditional" roles. But according to you, since women are supposed to remain the same, shouldn't men stick to their role too? Since when did a man's role become to fuck as many chicks as possible?
Depending what civilization you want to look at, and how far back in time you want to go? Should we go back to Africa or the Middle East where they had many wives? Should we go to ancient Asia and concubines?Should we go to the various ancient texts that say that a man is supposed to spread his seed (not saying I agree) Yes women's roles have changed....but I think confusion in GENDER ROLES has a great deal to do with the problems of the day


Black women did not invent sleeping around. Becky's rely on their vagina to keep the attention of sorry ass John too. Also, I know a quite a few Bradford's. The ones I know are not checking for black women, even the ones that are on his level. Don't you think that is a valid issue as well?
Sure but I care about black women...hence why I reference black women....but yes... ok you are right. But this does APPLY TO BLACK WOMEN.

Eh. If you say so. Pussy is pussy, and pretty much anyone can get a phat ass now. Only dumb hoes think that their vagina is golden, and those aren't the women I'm talking about. I'm talking about the one's that have the opposite attitude and actually have something going for them. Why are they being passed up so a guy can go fuck around until he gets tired?

They are not getting passed up...most of them ARE NOT DOING WHAT IT TAKES TO GET CHOSEN

In general terms, black women are the least likely, but I have a lot of black female friends who are in successful relationships with non black men. It's not uncommon where I am to see a black woman and a hispanic or white man. Hopefully one day people will have a more open mind.

I'm sure you may see a "few examples" in your area. But the larger national numbers say something different.


Hahaha, I have. You would be surprised at the attitude change in some women once they get a man...it's laughable. Desperation and a ticking biological clock can tame the most abrasive woman. But I see what you're saying.
KEY statement once they get a man. That is part of the problem. A good number of sistas think that they will ACT LIKE A WOMAN AFTER THEY GET THE MAN. Big mistake! Act like THAT WOMAN AT ALL TIMES.

These women will do it for their non black man because they just want a man period. Like I said, desperation can make you change your attitude.
Lastly...your last comment doesn't make sense because I didn't even come at you like that. I guess you're referring to other women who have questioned you before. Whatever. I'll also assume thats what you meant when you mentioned Oprah and Tyra?? Those women have nothing to do with me, but ok.
Thanks for your input.

Yes speaking to the OTHER women reading this....

It still amazes me that several MEN in the thread can lay out the game plan for how a black woman can obtain the favor of a decent black men. Yet most black women refuse to listen.........they rather question what we desire. In a self serving way try to dictate to black men........what black men should want.

 

[Harlem's Angel]

My fiance did not finish college but it doesn't matter to me. College is something that can be completed at any time in life so why should it be held against anyone? plus he does very well for himself in his career.

 

[PrincessC]

]
It still amazes me that several MEN in the thread can lay out the game plan for how a black woman can obtain the favor of a decent black men. Yet most black women refuse to listen.........they rather question what we desire. In a self serving way try to dictate to black men........what black men should want.

This thread is not about black men and what they want. There are plenty of threads on BGOL for that.
This thread is about college educated women dating men that are seemingly not on their educational level.
Your wants and the next man's wants might not be the same, and therefore, you can't put out blanket statements like that out there. I think discussing what "a man wants" is a waste of time because everyone is different.
Clearly, you have a lot to say about this particular topic though, and it has been enlightening.
There is no set gameplan on how to get/keep a man. Maybe that's why no on is listening. If it were that way, it would already have been figured out by now, don't you think? There would be no need for books or endless discussions. People are ultimately going to do what they want to do. What works for you doesn't work for everyone.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

This thread is not about black men and what they want. There are plenty of threads on BGOL for that.
This thread is about college educated women dating men that are seemingly not on their educational level.
Your wants and the next man's wants might not be the same, and therefore, you can't put out blanket statements like that out there. I think discussing what "a man wants" is a waste of time because everyone is different.
Clearly, you have a lot to say about this particular topic though, and it has been enlightening.
There is no set gameplan on how to get/keep a man. Maybe that's why no on is listening. If it were that way, it would already have been figured out by now, don't you think? There would be no need for books or endless discussions. People are ultimately going to do what they want to do. What works for you doesn't work for everyone.

In a roundabout way this thread evolved into that topic...
But regardless this is the discussion that you and I engaged in that obviously caught your attention judging by your multiple replies.
Sure I am generalizing. So be it.....what else can I do? I am by no means an authority. Just a brother with a thought or two. Like I said previously take it for what its worth.

But one way to gain knowledge is through discussuion... and listening to different viewpoints. But again this is porn board right....

 

[PrincessC]

In a roundabout way this thread evolved into that topic...
But regardless this is the discussion that you and I engaged in that obviously caught your attention judging by your multiple replies.
Sure I am generalizing. So be it.....what else can I do? I am by no means an authority. Just a brother with a thought or two. Like I said previously take it for what its worth.

But one way to gain knowledge is through discussuion... and listening to different viewpoints. But again this is porn board right....

It caught my attention because I can relate. I live this, and a lot of my girlfriends do too.

I still think that ultimately, a lot of women have no choice but to 1) date "down" and be happy with it, or 2) date outside of their race because theres a dwindling pool of men on their level. I don't think anyone should settle for less.

 

[jucurious]

Men of other races as a whole don't see the benefit of passing up their OWN women to fuck with black women. Generally speaking.

Notice the type of black women that you see men of other RACES CHOOSE.

Plus most men are going to choose a woman that behaves in a manner that they are raised and accustomed to.

I can't really see TOO many Sistas socializing themselves in a manner that women of other races do.

• Will you play the submissive role to an ASIAN MAN?
• Will you be the "agreeable" woman to the WHITE MAN and immediately recognize him as the TRUE head of the household?
• Will you know your role as the DOMESTIC to a LATINO MAN?

If you answered yes to any of the above.............
Then why won't you do that shit for a black man?

"Why the hell would I know what black men truly desire in a woman.................I am only a black man"

u know what is interesting about these statements
-yes the asian women i know thru networking and my family can be submissive but let ur ass NOT be putting it down....they will let u know
-the white men actually PLAY the role of head of the household...not just want the title; plus they have white privelage so they have less boundaries stopping them from doing so...and don't get it twisted...u will hear from her too if u aint doin shit
-the latino men in my family actaully VALUE their woman's domestication and when his ass aint holding down his realm, she will let that ass have it

 

[DiamondDeuce]

It caught my attention because I can relate. I live this, and a lot of my girlfriends do too.
I still think that ultimately, a lot of women have no choice but to 1) date "down" and be happy with it, or 2) date outside of their race because theres a dwindling pool of men on their level. I don't think anyone should settle for less.

Interesting that this is your thought process. Date Down or Date outside your race...

Why not on an individual level do what it takes to get the black man you desire?

 

[DiamondDeuce]

u know what is interesting about these statements
-yes the asian women i know thru networking and my family can be submissive but let ur ass NOT be putting it down....they will let u know
-the white men actually PLAY the role of head of the household...not just want the title; plus they have white privelage so they have less boundaries stopping them from doing so...and don't get it twisted...u will hear from her too if u aint doin shit
-the latino men in my family actaully VALUE their woman's domestication and when his ass aint holding down his realm, she will let that ass have it

Ok so if you agree with my statements then why not do whatever it takes to get the black man that you desire?

 

[LogicBlack]

I am a brother with a high school education, it has been my experience that most college educated women dont want a brother with a lower education level. Would you marry a man with only a high school diploma or even a drop out?

The beauty of being black and being a black man that if you have that spirit and power from God to stand tall and be steady in what ever you do; progression in love and humbleness and digression of evil situations a woman will stand by you no matter what because at the end of the day we are one in the same.

The gift of free will and individualism is a double edge sword meaning is can give someone the self given right to put themselves above another like in this convo/topic educated women with not so educated men...

Educated people made a sub-culture in society and Black educated depending on the sex has made a sub-culture with in the sub culture. Alot of men think women with a BS/BA/OR MA is on some stuck up, Foo Foo, Couture, "Don't Speak To me", self status while alot of black men with BS/BA/ or MA get the idea that alot of women want a meal ticket so they just fuck and whore around getting what they can because they see the media (Propaganda) and see women getting divorce settlements and the women walked in with completely nothing but end up REAL cushy so we get defensive OR both sides just dont date each other and date different races or same sex (We all herd or seen/know people of a higher tax bracket that done this).

Men just be good black men and everything should fall into place.

 

[SinaminDelite]

I do not equate college with being educated. That being said I have difficulty with ignorant and uneducated people particularly those unwilling to learn. Some masters and phd people have been the most ignorant and uneducated people I ever met.

Do not confuse title with education.

Hit the nail on the head. College is not for everyone. You can make a decent living, be informed on what's going on in the world, and just be overall intelligent without those extra four years. A degree doesn't mean much except a higher starting salary. It's not gonna make the man treat you any better than one w/o that degree.

 

[Chicutie]

Hit the nail on the head. College is not for everyone. You can make a decent living, be informed on what's going on in the world, and just be overall intelligent without those extra four years. A degree doesn't mean much except a higher starting salary. It's not gonna make the man treat you any better than one w/o that degree.

Not even that sometimes. . . I think a lot of people who choose to get a degree in fields that are kinda overpopulated (for example like a B.S. in business) have a hard time making the type of money that college graduates sort expect. Sad but true. ..

 

[AristotlesOwn]

It caught my attention because I can relate. I live this, and a lot of my girlfriends do too.

I still think that ultimately, a lot of women have no choice but to 1) date "down" and be happy with it, or 2) date outside of their race because there's a dwindling pool of men on their level. I don't think anyone should settle for less.

This is a sentiment that is echoed by most of my female friends. I think no. 2b. would be that the more educated a sista is, the harder it is to find a brotha on her level because he is more than likely with a white (or asian) woman.

I have friends who wear their white women as trophies; badges of courage even. Some are only in those relationships because it's lucrative for them. I'm all for using the system but damn...

Not even that sometimes. . . I think a lot of people who choose to get a degree in fields that are kinda overpopulated (for example like a B.S. in business) have a hard time making the type of money that college graduates sort expect. Sad but true. ..

There is plenty of wisdom here, but I think that applies more to persons of color than to whites. I also want to add that as a person of color, it's tough to get the job that you want unless you have experience behind it. I say that only because I have seen my white counterparts who went through the same graduate program as me pick up $70,000+ salary jobs straight out of the program with no experience; not even an internship. Connections (either parental or your own) count for more than education these days folks.

 

[PrincessC]

Interesting that this is your thought process. Date Down or Date outside your race...

Why not on an individual level do what it takes to get the black man you desire?

Like I said, there is a dwindling pool of eligible men to date, period. So ultimately, something has got to give. That is why I said that either the standards have to change, or just look somewhere else. There is nothing wrong with either option, in my opinion. To stay around and continue to date people who are not on your level would be stupid.

This is a sentiment that is echoed by most of my female friends. I think no. 2b. would be that the more educated a sista is, the harder it is to find a brotha on her level because he is more than likely with a white (or asian) woman.

I have friends who wear their white women as trophies; badges of courage even. Some are only in those relationships because it's lucrative for them. I'm all for using the system but damn...

I co-sign on your entire post. This has been my experience since college.

 

[xfactor]

However, I have another related question. What are women supposed to do while men are busy fucking around? Not fuck around? Since you mentioned that women can't do the same thing as guys....

If women would handle their business, so to speak, and stop laying back like the man should feel lucky that she even gives him the time of day, then she won't have to worry about him fucking around.

If a man is getting everything he needs from one woman, there is no need to go to others.

my first choice would be to date/marry a man who has a college education like myself

STOP playin'

 

[Melts In Ur Mouth]

But if you got your shit together and WORK ON PRESENTING YOURSELF AS A LADY (By man's definition) at all times. Then once you gain the interest of said suitor........you work TO SEPERATE YOURSELF from the competition of other women.....THEN YOU WILL BE CHOSEN.

Oh I almost forgot. Black women are the demographic group LEAST LIKELY TO DATE OUTSIDE OF THEIR RACE.
Really again........because women choose who they let fuck them. MEN CHOOSE WHO THEY MARRY.

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Hmmmmm.... I am a 25 yr old attractive female with an MBA as well. I'm already fully aware that I have all the qualities that a "Good Black Man" wants. I have been proposed to more then once,I have been asked time and time again why no one has "trapped" me yet. However, I don't need to do anything special to separate myself.,MEN already tend to notice that I'm far from the competition. With that said I feel that I CHOOSE WHO I MARRY and not the other way around. True "Good Black Men" are scarce, but when you are a "Good Black Woman" you tend attract more of them.

To answer the original question... In a perfect world,I would prefer my SPOUSE to be college educated, but its not a deal breaker, as long as we're on the same page mentally,with similar goals and ambitions in life.

NOW ...who I have sex with or decide to chill with is a different story. The guy who I want to just come through and lay the pipe, vs the guy I want to go out on dates with, vs the guy that just comes over to keep me company will probably all be different and have different qualities, which may or may not have anything to do with education.

 

[melonpecan]

I would.

It has nothing to do with wanting a 'thug' or what not, but as long as that person has a good head I don't see a problem. Not everyone can flourish in a collegiate setting and I get that. Just be motivated.

The problem I have is when a man, (or woman for that matter), doesn't graduate or only have a diploma or GED and complain about their life, job status, etc., (I'm living through this with a relative ), and won't do anything about it. Have whatever education you want but if you don't want better yourself or if you're not willing to work for what you complain about, we can't talk.

The education does not always make the person. According to my schools reputation I'm a sack of rocks.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

Hmmmmm.... I am a 25 yr old attractive female with an MBA as well. I'm already fully aware that I have all the qualities that a "Good Black Man" wants. I have been proposed to more then once,I have been asked time and time again why no one has "trapped" me yet. However, I don't need to do anything special to separate myself.,MEN already tend to notice that I'm far from the competition. With that said I feel that I CHOOSE WHO I MARRY and not the other way around. True "Good Black Men" are scarce, but when you are a "Good Black Woman" you tend attract more of them.

To answer the original question... In a perfect world,I would prefer my SPOUSE to be college educated, but its not a deal breaker, as long as we're on the same page mentally,with similar goals and ambitions in life.

NOW ...who I have sex with or decide to chill with is a different story. The guy who I want to just come through and lay the pipe, vs the guy I want to go out on dates with, vs the guy that just comes over to keep me company will probably all be different and have different qualities, which may or may not have anything to do with education.

The highlighted parts are the ones that I have issue with. YOU AS A WOMAN ARE CHOSEN BY A MAN TO BE MARRIED. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

Unless you as a woman are approaching men... and then you ASK THE MAN TO MARRY YOU.

Sure you may have different guys for different things.......but this is not the role of a woman. Which goes back to what I said earlier. You can not act like a man...........and expect to get a real man. PERIOD.
Plus you have highlighted an issue which gets young sistas in trouble. Yes you may fuck Leroy the no education(no future) having dude...but the reality is WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET PREGNANT? Then what? If you have the little bastard........ you will no longer be attractive to most of the black men of worth on the market.

I have seen many promising sistas fuck there who lives and pool of "potential mates" up...by having a kid with the wrong NIGGA.

The world does not work like that. Which on some level may "help" explain why a man of worth has not "chosen" you.

 

[xfactor]

The highlighted parts are the ones that I have issue with. YOU AS A WOMAN ARE CHOSEN BY A MAN TO BE MARRIED. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

Unless you as a woman are approaching men... and then you ASK THE MAN TO MARRY YOU.

DD,

Don't say that. You're going to get the typical "Statement does not register in brain - must label him woman hater" response.

But it's the truth. A lot of women think they choose their mate, which in reality all they are doing is settling with the person that they feel is the best candidate for them. I guess that could be interpreted as choosing but to me, choosing your mate would be when YOU are the one approaching that person of the opposite sex, evaluating the compatiblility, and deciding if they are worth it for the long haul.

Not deciding to settle with the best "candidate" out of the ones that approach you.

I also had an issue with this but not for the same reasons as you -

NOW ...who I have sex with or decide to chill with is a different story. The guy who I want to just come through and lay the pipe, vs the guy I want to go out on dates with, vs the guy that just comes over to keep me company will probably all be different and have different qualities, which may or may not have anything to do with education.

Being that most women are terrible at juggling and multi tasking, I thought it was funny that she said this.

Especially how it was worded. She's making herself out to be faster than road runner

And then wonders why she hasn't been "trapped" yet...

 

[Izayoi]

DD,

Don't say that. You're going to get the typical "Statement does not register in brain - must label him woman hater" response.

Ok now that's funny.