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I did not write this...I found it interesting because this is where Im from / grew up.....Section 5 ... was added to accommodate/ make way for minorities that could "afford" it...
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The GOD reference was apropo too since my great-grandmother lived on the 25th floor of her apartment building and you couldn’t convice me otherwise that her apartment wasn’t Heaven. On a foggy overcast morning if you looked out the window you looked down on the clouds. They were so thick and cumulus that some kids thought they could ride them away. Unfortunately back then the city had no laws requiring child safety bars for hi-rise apartment building windows and every so often a mother’s anguished banshee wail would echo through the cavernous canyons of buildings. I guess you can’t have Heaven if there is no Hell.



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Modeled after some technologically tremendous European residential architecture(pictured above), Co-op City was one of the largest housing initiatives ever created. The City housed almost sixty-thousand people in over 15,000 housing units. There were incredible amenities in this City within the city. Apartments were heated and cooled with centralized air conditioning. Each building had a multi-user laundromat. The ground floors of the apartment buildings hosted various medical offices for all the seniors that were part of the development. I think that was the appeal for my grandmother on behalf of my great-grandmother. The City’s site plan was so organized that you didn’t have to cross a street to get to the supermarket, the deli, the dry cleaners or the schools. This was from its inception a master plan that lent its design to utopian communism. Co-op City also had the greatest number of Black, Brown, Red, Yellow and white peoples living within the same zip code.

From the mind of a five year old child this was my favorite place on Earth, but under the surface of this faux forced utopia were the undercurrents of social unraveling on a grand scale. Co-op City for all of its charm and extravagance could not escape the real world right across the street. The Bronx is the poorest section of America per capita and Co-op City would not be exempted. In order for the developers of Co-op City to secure the Federal H.U.D. money to create the development there had to housing set aside for people receiving Federal and state income supplements. The developers designed the city so that this area where their ‘Section 8′ tenants would reside was separated from the primary housing block. They were provided with their own shopping cluster and primary grade schools, but the high school students would be required to travel by public bus. The area of Co-op City that housed primarily all of the developments welfare recipients was further sequestered from the larger complex by being on the opposite side of the Hutchinson River. Occasionally, the drawbridge that you had to cross to enter that section would be raised if there was a barge traveling up the river.

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There was certainly a distinction made between the residents of Section 5 and the rest of the Co-op City residents in Sections 1-4 (no relation to ‘Section 8′). These differences would manifest themelves at the local high school, HARRY S. TRUMAN, where children from middle class aspiring parents comingled with the children of parent(s) who may not have shared those same values. I believe this was the failure of Co-op City and the subsequent failure of residential communities of even smaller scales. A community’s value system will be reflected by it’s most mediocre denizens, where those that have a higher value system will displace themselves or be shunted altogether. High rise apartment complexes work in European cities because they are occupied by residents who share the same class value system. There won’t be any pissing in the hallways in Glasglow, not because they are more civilized, but because that is never projected as an option to using the bathroom.

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The residents in Co-op City began to reflect the values of people that feel like they have no stake in the place that they reside. Simple issues like litter can become tremendous issues when you contemplate the magnitude of 60,000 people all living within the same 300 acres. Trust me, there’s no longer any room to breathe. Co-op City barely made it through New York City’s fiscal crisis during the 1970′s. City services like mass transit and garbage collection were severely halted. Roadway repair was also non-existant and this was an area of the Bronx that residents needed to drive to and from their jobs if they had one. Now try to imagine the resulting clamor when the mid-1980′s recession and drug explosion took hold of the city. This much ballyhooed model community was under siege. The last remaining white residents fled from Co-op City as if it were the Titanic sinking in the middle of the ocean.

The diversity that began when this city first opened its doors was no more. It was now metamorphisized into the largest Federal housing project in the country. More reflective of the southern Bronx neighborhoods like SoundView and Hunts Point as opposed to the diverse middle class western Bronx enclaves like Marble Hill and Riverdale. Co-op City is a great study in urban design and planning, but I think it serves as a better example for socio-economic trends. This is why many whites are opposed to sharing zip codes with different peoples. If the vales of new residents doesn’t at least meet those of the incumbent community you will have a loss of property value. Transversely, if new residents into a community value their property they will be able to displace the incumbent community who does not have those values.

So now when I look at high rise apartment buildings I see them as just ‘Reservations in the Sky’. Instead of giving away multi-acre tracts of land for people to establish their communities the government is stacking houses on top of one another so much like LEGO blocks.
 
my mom lives there now....not bad only some fake thugs. parking sucks ass but other than that its safe
 
Where's the link to the story? God forbid folks whould think that conversation/story started in a beauty salon.
 
A Long History
Years ago, on the 300-acre plot of marshy land along the west bank of the Hutchinson River where Co-op City now rises, there once was an American history-themed amusement park called Freedomland. The park lasted only four years (from 1960 to 1964) before it filed for bankruptcy and was shuttered permanently.



Prior to Freedomland, the land occupied by Co-op City was reincarnated several times — first as the home of the Siwasnoy Indians, then as a cucumber farm and pickle factory, then as a failed municipal airport. The planning and building of Co-op City began in 1965 after the demolition of Freedomland, with the first apartment building completed in 1968. While the project was officially completed in 1973, some building continued up till the early 1980s.

Co-op City was the largest construction project of the United Housing Foundation (UHF), a non-profit organization created in 1951 to promote consumer cooperatives and housing.

Development and Architecture
Co-op City consists of 15,372 residential units in 35 high-rise buildings and seven three-story townhouse clusters. There are three shopping centers with about 150 stores, and more than 40 offices rented by doctors, lawyers, and other professionals. A 25-acre educational park is home to three elementary schools, two middle schools and Harry S. Truman High School; there is also a weather station, 14 gymnasiums, two swimming pools, a planetarium and the Museum of Migrating Peoples.

The high-rise buildings of Co-op City were designed by Herman Jesser, an architect who advocated “tower-in-the-park” urban renewal. Of the development’s 300 acres, only 20 percent of the land was constructed upon, which left large green areas left open, including a 60-acre greenway that was once the centerpiece of the parkland in Co-op City. (Unfortunately, large portions of the greenway were paved over in 2003 to make space for parking.)

Co-op City also boasts 15 churches and houses of worship, six nursery schools and day care centers, four basketball courts, and five baseball diamonds. Each of the shopping plazas has its own supermarket and a variety of restaurants; Bay Plaza even has its own multiplex movie theater.

Riverbay Corporation
Co-op City is managed by the Riverbay Corporation, which has 32 administrative/operational departments and over 1,000 employees. The corporation is overseen by a 15-member board of elected directors, and presided over by board president Al Shapiro.

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Mirande Valbrune, the human resources director of Riverbay, says that because of the large number of employees, the administrative departments primarily serve the needs of Riverbay Corporation, rather than the shareholders themselves. The company’s administrative offices range from financial to legal to human resources, as well as community relations, giving Riverbay a liaison between governmental and community groups. There’s also the sales department, which handles new shareholders, transfers, and sales.

According to Valbrune, the Riverbay employees handle everything having to do with repairs, public safety, upkeep of the grounds, waste management, and the power plant.

Debt and Deterioration
Despite the progressive intentions that originally inspired the developers of Co-op City, the community has had its share of problems over the years—both structural and financial.

Co-op City was built on a marsh. The development’s buildings are supported by over 50,000 pilings extending down into the bedrock, but over the years, the underground utility system—which was laid in landfill trenches—has proven vulnerable to movement and settling. According to Freedman, the settling earth has also caused shear fractures in the buildings’ walls and disrupted stairs and ramps at their entrances.

The initial construction also went over budget, with each unit costing $4,000 more to build than originally anticipated. Adding to that were management issues.

In 1975, the officers of Riverbay Corporation tried to offset the budget deficit by passing along the $4,000-per-apartment overrun to the residents in the form of a 25 percent increase in monthly carrying charges—a move that resulted in a 13-month rent strike. That strike would become the longest and largest in United States history. Eventually the state conceded, and only modest rent hikes were implemented.



The financial issues didn’t end there, however. Over the years, the bills for repairs at Co-op City have climbed, while the buildings themselves have deteriorated. In 1992, the state provided $108 million for repairs—by that point however, the estimated cost for the necessary work was more like $210 million. Vacancies were also increasing around this time, so the state issued the development a $3 million grant to lower the purchase price for apartments. That move proved more successful, and helped bring the vacancy rate down from its all-time high in 1993 of about 1,500 empty apartments.

It wasn’t enough, however. By 2003, says Freedman, the financial and structural situations at Co-op City could not be ignored. Windows needed replacing, the cement terraces were crumbling, elevators needed to be modernized, roofs and brick facades needed repair. On top of all that, the backup generator at the development’s power plant left the community in the dark during the August blackout. The final straw however, came when the greenways were paved over a couple of years ago to make room for the desperately needed parking spaces. The parking situation itself had become dire thanks to the community’s original parking garages being condemned.

Turning the Tide
Clearly, Co-op City was in need of some major help. The first solution came from Albany in 2004 when the New York State Housing Finance Agency (HFA) and the Division of Housing and Community Renewal agreed to refinance Co-op City’s $192 million mortgage and lend Riverbay $275 million for capital repairs. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and the city also stepped in and made J-51 benefits available to Co-op City residents, which added savings of $14 million through property tax abatement. Finally, the New York Community Bank gave the community a $480 million loan for still more essential repairs and to pay off the existing balance with the HFA.

Thanks to those infusions of cash and assistance from the city and state, Co-op City has undertaken major improvement projects aimed at rejuvenating the community and preserving residents’ quality of life. According to Freedman, there are currently dozens of works projects in various stages, including two new garages slated to open at the end of 2006, modernization of the complex’s elevators, new windows in every apartment, and rebuilt balconies.

Best of all perhaps, Co-op City’s revamped power plant now includes both gas and steam turbines, with trigeneration being used for everything from hot water to basic electricity.

More Room for Less
Apartments at Co-op City are offered in various sizes with floor plans of three, three-and-a-half, four, four-and-a-half, five, six, and six-and-a-half rooms. Apartments come with an array of standard features and amenities, but purchasers also have the opportunity to select designer options to enhance the finish of the apartment at additional cost.

In 2004, Co-op City’s mortgage was refinanced, resulting in an increase in apartment costs and maintenance charges. In April of 2007, there will be another 1.5 percent increase. The 2006 cost to buy a Co-op City apartment ranges from $10,500 to $22,750, with carrying charges from $512 to $1,109 per month—making it one of the most affordable developments in the city.

In order to obtain and apartment, prospective buyers apply with the Riverbay Corporation for approval. Even with the financial and maintenance challenges of recent years, there are no apartments immediately available in Co-op City. All applications are put on waiting lists, and the current wait time for one- and two-bedroom apartments is approximately two months. Three-bedroom apartments have a longer waiting list.

Since Co-op City is a Mitchell-Lama building, it has a minimum income requirement, making it a residence for primarily middle-income families. The current income requirements range from $22,582 to a maximum income of $123,624 per household; the only exception are lower income requirements for senior citizens 62 years of age or older.

Diverse Dreams
From the beginning, Co-op City was a racially diverse community, with families from a wide array of cultures putting down roots and taking advantage of the development’s resources and affordable housing. While it began with Irish, Italian, and Jewish residents, Co-op City was also home to significant African-American and Latin populations right from the start. Over the years, the face of the Co-op City community has changed, and changed again, from European to Caribbean, but always reflecting a vibrant mix of people from all over the world. Recently, there has been a large influx of Jewish families from the former Soviet Union, looking for a more diverse environment than the predominately Russian neighborhoods of Brighton Beach in Brooklyn.

“It was the first time for such a mixed neighborhood,”
 
Some of the article is true, some is bullshit. I live here and it's the best bang for your buck in NYC. If you own your Apt. outright. I own my apt outright and pay about $1450 a month maintenance with a parking space. No gas, no electric, its included. There ARE some bad Eastern European chicks that have moved in, however its fucked up because they "GAVE" them the apartments we paid $24-25k for, when there was an exodus and there were a lot of vacancies. There were about 500 apts. given to these Euro-jews, the last kick in the teeth from an increasingly shrinking Jewish board.

No one can front for a 3 bedroom spacious apt. with a terrace overlooking Manhattan & the Atlantic Ocean for $1450 a month, it is not bad at all. I'm waiting for them to privatize, they estimate these apt's could rocket into the $100 to 300k sphere if it happens.
 
My mother and i moved to co-op about 18 yrs ago form new rochelle which is now called New Roc City...smh @ that BS....i lived in section as well so i may know some of you...i played ball in the back as well as in the front...i know big Bill the barber...funny dude...my mother is moving out in a few months and she says it due to the decline and how they are just going up on the rent every yr....she is buying a condo only few miles up the road in mamaroneck...a lot of bad chicks in co op and i never understood the beef section 5 had with a certain project...the name escapes me right now...all and all it was a good place to live....i'll miss it!
 
The certain project was Edenwald and the other nemesis of section 5 was area known as The Valley. Got tons of stories, lots of low level celebs come from here: Curtis Blow, Big Wolf (R.I.P.) Puff's old body guard, Sylvia Stripland from back in the day. It's a neighborhood...Grew up here, left here and came back here it's not a horrible place to live, just frustrating.
 
peace

The certain project was Edenwald and the other nemesis of section 5 was area known as The Valley. Got tons of stories, lots of low level celebs come from here: Kurtis Blow, Big Wolf (R.I.P.) Puff's old body guard, Sylvia Stripland from back in the day. It's a neighborhood...Grew up here, left here and came back here it's not a horrible place to live, just frustrating.

Have fam from 'The Horseshoe' (3rd biggest pjs in NY after QB & Redhook


& some that used to stay in Co-op.

Visited a chick, chilled & have laid my head in that spot also.
Uncle throws jams in the rec center & even got married there.
I got stuck in them elevators back in the day.
SlickRick's from up around there, owns property in the same area plus DiamondD & countless others them are from up there too.

peace
 
The certain project was Edenwald and the other nemesis of section 5 was area known as The Valley. Got tons of stories, lots of low level celebs come from here: Curtis Blow, Big Wolf (R.I.P.) Puff's old body guard, Sylvia Stripland from back in the day. It's a neighborhood...Grew up here, left here and came back here it's not a horrible place to live, just frustrating.

Yoo Edendwald is my is my hometown glad to see someone else from their.:dance:
 
Yoo Edendwald is my is my hometown glad to see someone else from their.:dance:



went to truman....lived off boston rd....but i think i already said that a few times....

like dude said will read later....bed time....:yes:



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we moved to kingsbridge....... the top of marble hill.......bottom of the hill on broadway.....the closest pj's Marble Hill House......some good times & bad....:D
 
my moms & i moved outta co-op.....i remember when there was no shopping plaza / movie theater.... JUST PATHMARK....& TOYS R US

crossing the expressway was no joke :lol:
come across that lil walk way / bridge...you gonna get stuck:yes:...

it was a looooooooooooong ass walk to the 5/6 train.....:lol::smh:

the bagels shop was the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit:D:yes::dance:
 
Always leads back to blaming it on race :smh: coop city was/is what it id, an eloborate projects..
 
Good history story living in Mount Vernon I remember when they closed freedomland and built Co-Op city that went up like overnight. I remember a lot of Jews there firstly until they started to leave in the 70's,also the tenseness during the Son of Sam murders around there, my Peeps from The Virgin Islands moving there and a lot of West Indian events there also. I remember going to a party over there and parking all the way up by that polynesian restaurant going north on the thruway,And people who lived there would have to leave a party earlier to get a parking space going back home. I also remember my family leaving my house one night and returning back because a space was to far for them to walk back to there house (Sundays). Can anybody remember the projects across 95, (Boston Secor)I believe that was initially an extension of the Co-ops but the plan was abandoned. I remember plenty of rumbles of Co-op City younger residents at the nearby Arthur Treachers on Boston Post road with the Boston Secor residents and along with the Motels that surrounded there along the I95.It seemed for awhile the Co-Op city crowd was feared back in the day,most of which because some notorious gangs birthed out of there.
 
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From the Valley Im sure if some of us have seen each other from the old days when it was on site hands.

Just came back from NY in FL now, and there was NO parking back in the days now it is simply amazing. Have a old gf that I kick it with when I come back up and we drove around hour and 30 min looking for parking like we was on 34th or something......

I loved it when Bay Plaza was built was use to be in there deep. Co-Op has beautiful women in every single section in every single building lol.

Chief you took it back with Secor, I use to be terrified going to see a chick I use to work at Rye Playland with. Her dude end up knocking on the door when was in her crib getting it on. I remember cause I instantly could not get it back up I was so shook. lol.

Ive never read the history behind Co-Op been cool info peoples.

Peace
 
The faggit ass OP ain't from co-op lying ass nigga....

I'm going to catch is faggit ass in a lie right now... what elementary and Highschool is in co op city?
 
I live right across from Edenwald. My brother used to live in Co-op City and have 2 aunts & an uncle who live up there. I'm actually about to apply for an apt as well hoping the waiting list for a 2bedroom isn't too ridiculous.
 
my moms & i moved outta co-op.....i remember when there was no shopping plaza / movie theater.... JUST PATHMARK....& TOYS R US

crossing the expressway was no joke :lol:
come across that lil walk way / bridge...you gonna get stuck:yes:...

it was a looooooooooooong ass walk to the 5/6 train.....:lol::smh:

the bagels shop was the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit:D:yes::dance:

You ain't never lie the Bagel Shop was THE SHIT. $.50 FRESH Toasted Buttered Bagel & a $.25 juice. Your lunch was only $.75. Those were tha days.

The Pizza shop too was the shit. Slices were like .90 I remember when the guy raised it to a dollar, we thought the world was ending.:lol:
 
A lot of dudes from Edenwald on here...

What happened to the Boston Road Diner that's now a school? I used to ride up to Edenwald several times
during my College years. I rarely visit now, since my homies have moved on and out to somewhat better areas
of the BX (Yonkers area) or Pelham Bay. For some of the BX dudes that know, what are the best 'quality' areas to
live apt./condo whatever?
 
A lot of dudes from Edenwald on here...

What happened to the Boston Road Diner that's now a school? I used to ride up to Edenwald several times
during my College years. I rarely visit now, since my homies have moved on and out to somewhat better areas
of the BX (Yonkers area) or Pelham Bay. For some of the BX dudes that know, what are the best 'quality' areas to
live apt./condo whatever?
Oh you mean Baychester diner. Yeah that got converted into a school. I remember my cousin told me how him & his friends were in there one night & saw some chick get gun butted by some dude who just walked in & was heated at her. The whole diner emptied out immediately. He said he stiff armed a few heads to get out & saw 2 fat chicks running out as well but they brought their plates of food with them :lol:
 
The faggit ass OP ain't from co-op lying ass nigga....

I'm going to catch is faggit ass in a lie right now... what elementary and Highschool is in co op city?

Beatdown those questions can easily be answered with the help of google. A better question would be, What are the nicknames for each of the sections?
 
The faggit ass OP ain't from co-op lying ass nigga....

I'm going to catch is faggit ass in a lie right now... what elementary and Highschool is in co op city?

blow dicks faggot!!!!!!!!!!! scroll up & READ THE STORIES..... :smh::smh::smh:

nameing schools proves i used to live there?????? naming schools I NEVER attended @ that???? really???:lol: you fuk ass faggot cop....suck ya mothers asshole dry niggaaah!!!!! errrrrbody aint go to public school!!!!!:smh::lol:

who the fuck claims to be from a place like co-op city..... outta all places in ny to claim???? &&& who the fuck are you that I should have to prove something too???? GTFOH...ram ya night stick up ya ass then bend ya mother over & do her...:lol::smh: grow the fuck up!
 
You ain't never lie the Bagel Shop was THE SHIT. $.50 FRESH Toasted Buttered Bagel & a $.25 juice. Your lunch was only $.75. Those were tha days.

The Pizza shop too was the shit. Slices were like .90 I remember when the guy raised it to a dollar, we thought the world was ending.:lol:

the chines restaurant was pretty good too.....my moms used to like that damn movie theater:hmm::smh::lol:

& the express buss ride to manhattan was like going outta town:lol:
 
blow dicks faggot!!!!!!!!!!! scroll up & READ THE STORIES..... :smh::smh::smh:

nameing schools proves i used to live there?????? naming schools I NEVER attended @ that???? really???:lol: you fuk ass faggot cop....suck ya mothers asshole dry niggaaah!!!!! errrrrbody aint go to public school!!!!!:smh::lol:

who the fuck claims to be from a place like co-op city..... outta all places in ny to claim???? &&& who the fuck are you that I should have to prove something too???? GTFOH...ram ya night stick up ya ass then bend ya mother over & do her...:lol::smh: grow the fuck up!

A lot of frontin niggas claimed they were from Co op and couldn't even name the street that their section was on...

Funny shit is niggas from Edenwald and Gunhill would've merked your ass for the homo shit you be on... especially offering to do niggas eyebrows..
 
Beatdown those questions can easily be answered with the help of google. A better question would be, What are the nicknames for each of the sections?

You right....


Mailboxsimp what were the NICKNAMES OF EACH SECTION?
 
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