Ok when I first heard about this I was thinking that someone was making accusations of Obama being born in Malaysia or whereever his mom was and faking a birth certificate saying he was born in Hawaii. The actual case is not even based upon facts. That is why I don't listen to extreme liberal or conservatives because they tend to exaggerate their points. Once I read that he threw in John McCain because he was born in Panama I knew he was a crackpot. This was based upon Obama's father being a citizen of the UK and McCain being born in Panama. Basics civics says that you are a citizen if you are born in the US and its territories. That includes Hawaii and military bases all over the world. For all the ones that were jumping on this you just have to relax and laugh. The other guy.. I really don't give a damn about but if he wasn't born here(states or military base) it's a done deal. He isn't eligible.