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China Refuses to Cut Carbon Emissions - They'd Rather Develop Their Economy!
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China gets serious about carbon
emissions, global warming</font size><font size="4">
At UN, China's Hu Jintao commits to measurable limits
on carbon emissions for the first time. Chinese
environmental activists hail the shift
toward low-carbon technology.</font size></center>
Chinese President Hu Jintao speaks at the Summit on Climate Change at the United Nations in New York on Tuesday. Frank Franklin II/AP
The Christian Science Monitor
By Peter Ford
Staff writer of
The Christian Science Monitor
from the September 23, 2009 edition
Beijing - The pledge that Chinese President Hu Jintao made at Tuesday's United Nations climate change summit in New York – to put the brakes on China's carbon dioxide emissions – may have been short on specifics.
Chinese environmentalists, though, are hailing it as an important sign that Beijing is now fully committed to the global crusade against greenhouse gases.
The Chinese leader "signaled a willingness to move forward the negotiations" on CO2 curbs that are due to culminate in Copenhagen, Denmark, in December, Greenpeace China's climate expert Yang Ailun said here Wednesday. "This is a step in the right direction."
Mr. Hu promised that China would reduce its carbon intensity "by a notable margin by 2020 from 2005 levels." Carbon intensity is the amount of CO2 produced for each unit of economic output.
Though Hu put no figure on the goal, this marked the first time that Beijing has committed to measurable limits on its greenhouse-gas emissions. A senior Chinese official said later that a firm target would be announced "soon."
"China is still waiting for developed countries to put forward their own proposals for technology transfer and financial aid," which developing countries say they need in order to keep building their economies with the least possible pollution, according to Alfred Deng, a policy analyst in Beijing with The Climate Group, an international climate-change watchdog.
"China won't take the first step," Mr. Deng adds. "It will depend on how much developed countries do."
World's largest CO2 producer
Hu's promise will not mean any cuts soon in the actual emissions from China, the world's largest CO2 producer. The country has too many cities, railroads, bridges, and ports still to build in its push to employ millions of Chinese and develop its economy – and these projects require cement and steel from heavily polluting factories.
But government policies to reduce China's dependence on coal are already in place, and they need to be. "If the current mode of economic development drags on, the scale of China's fossil fuel consumption will be shocking," warned an influential report issued earlier this month by 10 Chinese institutions.
If energy consumption continued to grow at current rates until 2050, the report predicted, China would have burned more than 100 billion tons of coal by then, "far exceeding the load-bearing capacity of the whole planet."
If China invests heavily in renewable energy and receives generous aid from rich countries, its CO2 emissions could peak around 2035, said the report, the most comprehensive study ever done into China's possible low-carbon development paths. They would not begin to fall until the middle of the century.
To download a PDF summary of the report in English, click here .
Beijing takes global warming seriously
Experts here are generally confident that the Chinese government has recently begun to take the threat of global warming seriously, and to adopt policies to address it. Beijing has already said it would increase energy efficiency by 20 percent between 2005 and 2010 and use renewable sources for 15 percent of its energy by 2020.
The government has set quotas and subsidies obliging utility companies to buy a certain proportion of their electricity from wind, solar, and hydro projects.
China has also planted more trees for each of the past two years than the rest of the world put together, partly in a bid to soak up CO2 in the atmosphere.
"Two years ago government officials would ask me why I was talking about a low-carbon future," recalls Yang Fuqiang, a climate change expert with the Worldwide Fund for Nature. "They said it was a foreign idea.
"Today officials are clear that China has to move to a low-carbon economy, there is no question about it," Mr. Yang adds. Last month, for the first time, a decree from the National People's Congress, China's parliament, used such concepts as a "low carbon economy" and a "green economy," he points out.
At the same time, a recent report from The Climate Group found, "China has taken the lead in the race to develop and commercialize a range of low carbon technologies."
"Investors here are not short of money," says Yang. "If the government sets targets and issues mandatory requirements, investors will move. The government just has to give clear signals."
For more on China's rapid push into solar and its "Green Leap Forward," click here.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0923/p06s05-woap.html
China gets serious about carbon
emissions, global warming</font size><font size="4">
At UN, China's Hu Jintao commits to measurable limits
on carbon emissions for the first time. Chinese
environmental activists hail the shift
toward low-carbon technology.</font size></center>
Chinese President Hu Jintao speaks at the Summit on Climate Change at the United Nations in New York on Tuesday. Frank Franklin II/AP
The Christian Science Monitor
By Peter Ford
Staff writer of
The Christian Science Monitor
from the September 23, 2009 edition
Beijing - The pledge that Chinese President Hu Jintao made at Tuesday's United Nations climate change summit in New York – to put the brakes on China's carbon dioxide emissions – may have been short on specifics.
Chinese environmentalists, though, are hailing it as an important sign that Beijing is now fully committed to the global crusade against greenhouse gases.
The Chinese leader "signaled a willingness to move forward the negotiations" on CO2 curbs that are due to culminate in Copenhagen, Denmark, in December, Greenpeace China's climate expert Yang Ailun said here Wednesday. "This is a step in the right direction."
Mr. Hu promised that China would reduce its carbon intensity "by a notable margin by 2020 from 2005 levels." Carbon intensity is the amount of CO2 produced for each unit of economic output.
Though Hu put no figure on the goal, this marked the first time that Beijing has committed to measurable limits on its greenhouse-gas emissions. A senior Chinese official said later that a firm target would be announced "soon."
"China is still waiting for developed countries to put forward their own proposals for technology transfer and financial aid," which developing countries say they need in order to keep building their economies with the least possible pollution, according to Alfred Deng, a policy analyst in Beijing with The Climate Group, an international climate-change watchdog.
"China won't take the first step," Mr. Deng adds. "It will depend on how much developed countries do."
World's largest CO2 producer
Hu's promise will not mean any cuts soon in the actual emissions from China, the world's largest CO2 producer. The country has too many cities, railroads, bridges, and ports still to build in its push to employ millions of Chinese and develop its economy – and these projects require cement and steel from heavily polluting factories.
But government policies to reduce China's dependence on coal are already in place, and they need to be. "If the current mode of economic development drags on, the scale of China's fossil fuel consumption will be shocking," warned an influential report issued earlier this month by 10 Chinese institutions.
If energy consumption continued to grow at current rates until 2050, the report predicted, China would have burned more than 100 billion tons of coal by then, "far exceeding the load-bearing capacity of the whole planet."
If China invests heavily in renewable energy and receives generous aid from rich countries, its CO2 emissions could peak around 2035, said the report, the most comprehensive study ever done into China's possible low-carbon development paths. They would not begin to fall until the middle of the century.
To download a PDF summary of the report in English, click here .
Beijing takes global warming seriously
Experts here are generally confident that the Chinese government has recently begun to take the threat of global warming seriously, and to adopt policies to address it. Beijing has already said it would increase energy efficiency by 20 percent between 2005 and 2010 and use renewable sources for 15 percent of its energy by 2020.
The government has set quotas and subsidies obliging utility companies to buy a certain proportion of their electricity from wind, solar, and hydro projects.
China has also planted more trees for each of the past two years than the rest of the world put together, partly in a bid to soak up CO2 in the atmosphere.
"Two years ago government officials would ask me why I was talking about a low-carbon future," recalls Yang Fuqiang, a climate change expert with the Worldwide Fund for Nature. "They said it was a foreign idea.
"Today officials are clear that China has to move to a low-carbon economy, there is no question about it," Mr. Yang adds. Last month, for the first time, a decree from the National People's Congress, China's parliament, used such concepts as a "low carbon economy" and a "green economy," he points out.
At the same time, a recent report from The Climate Group found, "China has taken the lead in the race to develop and commercialize a range of low carbon technologies."
"Investors here are not short of money," says Yang. "If the government sets targets and issues mandatory requirements, investors will move. The government just has to give clear signals."
For more on China's rapid push into solar and its "Green Leap Forward," click here.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0923/p06s05-woap.html
again put down the OBAMA calculator...
thats great, the Obamulator! ! !
Bernanke has an Obamulator, he said the recession is over
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China Sets Emission-Cutting Target
Ahead of Climate Change Summit</font size><font size="4">
China's State Council describes the target as a voluntary
action and predicted it will make a "major contribution"
to global efforts to tackle climate change</font size></center>
Cyclist pass through thick smog from a factory in Yutian 100km
east of Beijing in China's northwest Hebei province
Voice of America
Thursday, 26 November 2009
China has set its first target for cutting carbon dioxide emissions, a day after the United States made a similar commitment ahead of a U.N. climate change summit.
China's State Council said Thursday that China will reduce its "carbon intensity" by 2020 by 40 to 45 percent from 2005 levels. Carbon intensity is the amount of greenhouse gases emitted for each unit of national income.
China's State Council, or Cabinet, described the target as a voluntary action and predicted it will make a "major contribution" to global efforts to tackle climate change.
Earlier Thursday, China said Premier Wen Jiabao will attend next month's climate change summit in Copenhagen.
On Wednesday, the White House said President Barack Obama will attend the summit and pledge to cut U.S. carbon emissions by 17 percent by 2020 compared to 2005 levels.
The United States is the last of several dozen industrialized countries to offer a specific commitment for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
The European Union had urged Washington and Beijing to bring target numbers to the December 7 to 18 summit. EU nations already have pledged a more ambitious target of cutting emissions by 20 percent in 2020 compared to 1990 levels.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon welcomed President Obama's decision to attend the summit on December 9. Mr. Ban expressed hope that as more world leaders confirm their participation, momentum will build for a successful conclusion.
The climate change conference originally was intended to produce a treaty to replace the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, whose obligations expire in 2012. But, observers say it is more likely to result in an outline of an agreement to be further negotiated next year.
After Copenhagen, President Obama will travel to Oslo, Norway, to accept the Nobel Peace Prize.
Some information for this report was provided by AP, AFP and Reuters.
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/asia/26nov09-china-climate-conference-74635257.html
China Sets Emission-Cutting Target
Ahead of Climate Change Summit</font size><font size="4">
China's State Council describes the target as a voluntary
action and predicted it will make a "major contribution"
to global efforts to tackle climate change</font size></center>
Cyclist pass through thick smog from a factory in Yutian 100km
east of Beijing in China's northwest Hebei province
Voice of America
Thursday, 26 November 2009
China has set its first target for cutting carbon dioxide emissions, a day after the United States made a similar commitment ahead of a U.N. climate change summit.
China's State Council said Thursday that China will reduce its "carbon intensity" by 2020 by 40 to 45 percent from 2005 levels. Carbon intensity is the amount of greenhouse gases emitted for each unit of national income.
China's State Council, or Cabinet, described the target as a voluntary action and predicted it will make a "major contribution" to global efforts to tackle climate change.
Earlier Thursday, China said Premier Wen Jiabao will attend next month's climate change summit in Copenhagen.
On Wednesday, the White House said President Barack Obama will attend the summit and pledge to cut U.S. carbon emissions by 17 percent by 2020 compared to 2005 levels.
The United States is the last of several dozen industrialized countries to offer a specific commitment for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
The European Union had urged Washington and Beijing to bring target numbers to the December 7 to 18 summit. EU nations already have pledged a more ambitious target of cutting emissions by 20 percent in 2020 compared to 1990 levels.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon welcomed President Obama's decision to attend the summit on December 9. Mr. Ban expressed hope that as more world leaders confirm their participation, momentum will build for a successful conclusion.
The climate change conference originally was intended to produce a treaty to replace the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, whose obligations expire in 2012. But, observers say it is more likely to result in an outline of an agreement to be further negotiated next year.
After Copenhagen, President Obama will travel to Oslo, Norway, to accept the Nobel Peace Prize.
Some information for this report was provided by AP, AFP and Reuters.
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/asia/26nov09-china-climate-conference-74635257.html
MAN.. THEY SHOULD OF SAW THIS SHIT COMING............I HEARD JUST RECENTLY YESTERDAY THAT SOME EMAIL LEAK FROM A WELL KNOWN SCIENTIST WEBSITE SAYING THAT WHOLE GLOBAL WARMING THING WAS A COMPLETE SCAM,FRAUD.AND THAT THE EARTH'S TEMPATURE WAS GETTING NO WARMER THAN WHAT IT ALREADY IS NOW.I DONT KNOW IF IT PLAYED INTO WORLD LEADERS DECISION'S OR NOT BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT...:
:Problem - Reaction - Solution! Learn to spot it when you see it.
Problem-Reaction-Solution is defined as the strategy of creating a crisis (the problem), waiting for a call for action to resolve the crisis (the reaction), then taking action (the solution), supposedly in response, which actually furthers a hidden agenda, usually gaining power. This is often cited as:
0. The government wants power the people will not freely give.
1. The government creates or exploits a problem, blaming it on others.
2. The people react by asking the government for help, willing to give up their rights. Think terrorist attacks, Cyber Terrorism, Economy, Global Warming
3. The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis.
Now back to the original topic.
source: Huffington Post
China To Send Premier To Copenhagen Climate Talks, Announces "Aggressive" Emissions Cuts
BEIJING — China promised Thursday to slow its carbon emissions, saying it would nearly halve the ratio of pollution to GDP over the next decade – a major move by the world's largest emitter, whose cooperation is crucial to any deal as a global climate summit approaches.
Beijing's voluntary pledge comes a day after President Barack Obama promised the U.S. would lay out plans at the summit to substantially cut its own greenhouse gas emissions. Together, the announcements are building momentum for next month's meeting in Copenhagen.
But environmental experts warned that China's plan does not commit it to reducing emissions – and that they will in fact continue to increase, though at a slower rate.
With the United States now offering specifics – reducing carbon dioxide emissions by about 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020 – China seemed to follow its lead.
China pledged Thursday to cut "carbon intensity," a measure of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of gross domestic product, by 40 to 45 percent by 2020, compared with levels in 2005. Beijing also said Premier Wen Jiabao will take part in the Copenhagen meeting.
"There's no question their carbon emissions would continue to grow under this scenario," said Charlie McElwee, an international environmental and energy lawyer based in Shanghai. "This isn't by any means an agreement by China to either cap, much less reduce, the amount of its carbon emissions. It's only slowing down the rate at which emissions are growing."
If China did nothing and its economy doubles in size as expected in coming years, its emissions would likely double as well. Thursday's pledge means emissions would only increase by 50 percent in such a scenario.
Environmental groups and leaders largely welcomed China's move.
"Before Copenhagen, we desperately need this good news," said Yu Jie, head of policy and research programs for The Climate Group China, a non-governmental group. She described China's 45 percent target as "quite aggressive."
The EU said the plans from the U.S. and China, which together emit about 40 percent of the world's greenhouse gases, were essential to progress at the summit but indicated they still hoped for more. "We will continue to urge the U.S., China and all our other partners in this negotiation to go to the outer limits of what is possible," a statement from Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said.
The announcements over the past two days add significant weight toward achieving a global agreement, though the Dec. 7-18 conference is unlikely to produce a binding deal as hoped.
Leaders now think delegates at Copenhagen will produce at best an outline for an agreement to be considered late next year instead.
But Yvo de Boer, the United Nations climate chief, said the pledges by China and the U.S. pave the way for a deal.
"The U.S. commitment to specific, midterm emission cut targets and China's commitment to specific action on energy efficiency can unlock two of the last doors to a comprehensive agreement," he said.
China has said repeatedly it will seek binding pollution targets for developed countries at Copenhagen – and reject similar requirements for itself. It has said most environmental damage was caused by developed nations during their industrialization over the last 100 to 200 years and that they should take most of the responsibility for the cleanup.
McElwee said the voluntary pledge could mean China doesn't have to stick to its goal – and that it could back out if, for instance, the economy tanks again.
China rejected that argument. "Even though it is voluntary, it is binding domestically," Xie Zhenhua, vice-chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission, told a press conference, while acknowledging meeting the goal would be difficult.
Environmental groups said China is trying to balance its efforts with the need to keep its economy growing quickly to pull people out of poverty.
China's State Council, or Cabinet, said its plan to slow its rate of carbon emissions would come through better research and development, clean coal technology, advanced nuclear energy and better transportation systems. Tax laws and regulations will also be changed to encourage energy efficiency.
"There are two things China will have to do to achieve this. One is to drastically improve energy efficiency, to use energy in a smart way. Second is to massively develop renewable energies," said Yang Ailun, climate campaign manager for Greenpeace China.
"Also, China will have to tackle its overdependency on coal," she said.
But policies are one thing. The major challenge will be making sure local governments implement the goals, she said.
source: Huffington Post
China To Send Premier To Copenhagen Climate Talks, Announces "Aggressive" Emissions Cuts
BEIJING — China promised Thursday to slow its carbon emissions, saying it would nearly halve the ratio of pollution to GDP over the next decade – a major move by the world's largest emitter, whose cooperation is crucial to any deal as a global climate summit approaches.
Beijing's voluntary pledge comes a day after President Barack Obama promised the U.S. would lay out plans at the summit to substantially cut its own greenhouse gas emissions. Together, the announcements are building momentum for next month's meeting in Copenhagen.
But environmental experts warned that China's plan does not commit it to reducing emissions – and that they will in fact continue to increase, though at a slower rate.
With the United States now offering specifics – reducing carbon dioxide emissions by about 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020 – China seemed to follow its lead.
China pledged Thursday to cut "carbon intensity," a measure of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of gross domestic product, by 40 to 45 percent by 2020, compared with levels in 2005. Beijing also said Premier Wen Jiabao will take part in the Copenhagen meeting.
"There's no question their carbon emissions would continue to grow under this scenario," said Charlie McElwee, an international environmental and energy lawyer based in Shanghai. "This isn't by any means an agreement by China to either cap, much less reduce, the amount of its carbon emissions. It's only slowing down the rate at which emissions are growing."
If China did nothing and its economy doubles in size as expected in coming years, its emissions would likely double as well. Thursday's pledge means emissions would only increase by 50 percent in such a scenario.
Environmental groups and leaders largely welcomed China's move.
"Before Copenhagen, we desperately need this good news," said Yu Jie, head of policy and research programs for The Climate Group China, a non-governmental group. She described China's 45 percent target as "quite aggressive."
The EU said the plans from the U.S. and China, which together emit about 40 percent of the world's greenhouse gases, were essential to progress at the summit but indicated they still hoped for more. "We will continue to urge the U.S., China and all our other partners in this negotiation to go to the outer limits of what is possible," a statement from Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said.
The announcements over the past two days add significant weight toward achieving a global agreement, though the Dec. 7-18 conference is unlikely to produce a binding deal as hoped.
Leaders now think delegates at Copenhagen will produce at best an outline for an agreement to be considered late next year instead.
But Yvo de Boer, the United Nations climate chief, said the pledges by China and the U.S. pave the way for a deal.
"The U.S. commitment to specific, midterm emission cut targets and China's commitment to specific action on energy efficiency can unlock two of the last doors to a comprehensive agreement," he said.
China has said repeatedly it will seek binding pollution targets for developed countries at Copenhagen – and reject similar requirements for itself. It has said most environmental damage was caused by developed nations during their industrialization over the last 100 to 200 years and that they should take most of the responsibility for the cleanup.
McElwee said the voluntary pledge could mean China doesn't have to stick to its goal – and that it could back out if, for instance, the economy tanks again.
China rejected that argument. "Even though it is voluntary, it is binding domestically," Xie Zhenhua, vice-chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission, told a press conference, while acknowledging meeting the goal would be difficult.
Environmental groups said China is trying to balance its efforts with the need to keep its economy growing quickly to pull people out of poverty.
China's State Council, or Cabinet, said its plan to slow its rate of carbon emissions would come through better research and development, clean coal technology, advanced nuclear energy and better transportation systems. Tax laws and regulations will also be changed to encourage energy efficiency.
"There are two things China will have to do to achieve this. One is to drastically improve energy efficiency, to use energy in a smart way. Second is to massively develop renewable energies," said Yang Ailun, climate campaign manager for Greenpeace China.
"Also, China will have to tackle its overdependency on coal," she said.
But policies are one thing. The major challenge will be making sure local governments implement the goals, she said.
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